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@sbg2460
@sbg2460 4 жыл бұрын
Nomura out here planning what to do 10+ years later. Meanwhile there’s me trying to plan what I’m going to have for dinner. 😂🤦‍♂️
@nekogamer2508
@nekogamer2508 3 жыл бұрын
Nomura is the geroge lucas of kingdom hearts
@solacebeyondsolace5926
@solacebeyondsolace5926 3 жыл бұрын
And here I am, forgetting what I ate for breakfast 20 minutes ago.
@hollowedentity7097
@hollowedentity7097 3 жыл бұрын
Atleast you can do that. My adhd is whacked. I need to remember to remember to eat.
@kanden27
@kanden27 4 жыл бұрын
“_____ is _____.” They stole the word too!
@jonathanwilson1539
@jonathanwilson1539 4 жыл бұрын
🤣☠
@francoolivares1731
@francoolivares1731 4 жыл бұрын
Gooddamit Seifer!
@Cupoja
@Cupoja 3 жыл бұрын
Nomura is genious!
@Kirito843
@Kirito843 4 жыл бұрын
Nomura: "I'm going to have Noctis one way or another."
@mikeykitty1235
@mikeykitty1235 4 жыл бұрын
Yozora is technically before Noctis, but whatever. Yozora is not Noctis.
@Kirito843
@Kirito843 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikeykitty1235 yes. I know that. It was a joke. I'm sure all of us knows that Yozora isn't Noctis. And technically, Noctis came before Yozora in the form of Versus. Considering that it's mere speculation, at least.
@marycaelum3818
@marycaelum3818 4 жыл бұрын
Mikeykitty123 Noctis was before Yozora from fobula nova crystals so they just changed it to Yozora , btw Yozora should have dark hair but they didn’t do it at time so he stayed with that hair color
@Chibi_Rikka
@Chibi_Rikka 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikeykitty1235 Yeah but it's pretty obvious Yozora is the original Alpha-Noctis before Versus XIII was taken away from Nomura and converted into FFXV. We all know he's not the current/finalized Noctis, and of course he's not just a straight copy/paste of the original either, but he's heavily inspired by him and the scene of him in the car being a shot for shot remake of the old Versus XIII trailer makes that pretty undeniable.
@mikeykitty1235
@mikeykitty1235 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chibi_Rikka Yozora is not Noctis, Verum Rex is not Versus 13, please, shut up about Versus 13 already.
@angelgomez8409
@angelgomez8409 4 жыл бұрын
How the guy that interviewed Nomura should have concluded: *Ok I believe you*
@TheTroubleMan9000
@TheTroubleMan9000 4 жыл бұрын
Just a pancake REFERENCE!!
@micjoco
@micjoco 4 жыл бұрын
Nomura is a time traveler himself. Hes telling the story backwards.
@herculejoestar5809
@herculejoestar5809 4 жыл бұрын
This is similar to a theory I had that the MoM is an im game representation of nomura
@Yurikon3
@Yurikon3 4 жыл бұрын
To be honest, that is how he tells it. Not that it is unheard of way to tell it, it kinda hurts the characterization and also kinda comes off hollow.
@zeroskaterz92
@zeroskaterz92 4 жыл бұрын
@@Yurikon3 How the fuck does it actually hurts the characterization and comes off hollow? Why do people saying shit like this and yet doesn't explain anything on it.
@Yurikon3
@Yurikon3 4 жыл бұрын
@@zeroskaterz92 if one thing which actually makes character have at least sort of depth or give sort of impact to the twist is not told before it, there is not much to be impressed off. Hollowness does not exactly stem only from backward exposition if character overall is not that interesting anyway. But it does not help it. The reason people say this stuff is mainly cause that is how they feel about characters. Simple. There are many reasons and backwards exposition can be one thing dulling the narration cause it basically takes away any reason to be emotionally invested to the twists.
@zeroskaterz92
@zeroskaterz92 4 жыл бұрын
@@Yurikon3 You barely even know shit in full context and just jumped to conclusion prematurely. Simple my ass. You're one of those people who just love to shit on this just because. I've seen enough Nomura haters to know how full of shit you guys are. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
@ianloreen7817
@ianloreen7817 4 жыл бұрын
Only one thing is certain: Nomura is a madman.
@xXLunatikxXlul
@xXLunatikxXlul 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see Nomura and Miyazaki to work together two madmen!
@Ymir_r
@Ymir_r 4 жыл бұрын
imagine kh if he wasn't though
@FlorianFlorian573
@FlorianFlorian573 4 жыл бұрын
No Thought Head Empty probably would have a more straightforward plot.
@darkdecade7102
@darkdecade7102 4 жыл бұрын
captaindog And something much more boring then we already have. Seriously I can’t imagine KH being as popular as it is without Nomura.
@FlorianFlorian573
@FlorianFlorian573 4 жыл бұрын
Flaming Lizard I never said that was a good thing. I like kh the way it is.
@gatst7680
@gatst7680 4 жыл бұрын
Here's something you have to keep in mind with Yozora. KH1 came out in 2002, and Versus XIII was announced in 2006. He had to at least have some sort of idea for it.
@gatst7680
@gatst7680 4 жыл бұрын
@trollnumber420 69 it was written in a rush
@yderga8707
@yderga8707 4 жыл бұрын
@trollnumber420 69 explain how? This about a giant shoed key wielding island boy with his dog and duck friends befriending disney characters into a story about war, body possession, experiments on human beings and existential crises. But no the notion that this guy had an idea for yozora in 2002 was too farfetched for you.
@thn4296
@thn4296 4 жыл бұрын
@trollnumber420 69 chill bruh
@DeafSavage
@DeafSavage 4 жыл бұрын
What the?? So what if Yozora was the one that's been dreaming about Sora the entire series and it came ful--OH GOD! What is Nomura on!?
@RazorBladezX
@RazorBladezX 4 жыл бұрын
@Chad Knapp i literally see this happening
@ffviifangirl1
@ffviifangirl1 4 жыл бұрын
I think Sora is a character in a story book in Yozora’s world so probably lol
@connorworsham6378
@connorworsham6378 4 жыл бұрын
I think, if we didn’t have Luxu and the lost masters, this would be plausible, but I don’t think there’s a way to tie Yozora to the MoM
@giboi03
@giboi03 4 жыл бұрын
@@ffviifangirl1 NO DON'T YOU DARE ROPE WINNIE THE POOH INTO THIS
@connorworsham6378
@connorworsham6378 4 жыл бұрын
Chad Knapp I mean it’s not past Nomura to have two parallel stories in the main storyline, but I just don’t see it being a dream and Yozora being like “the only way to stop this madman and figure out what’s in the box is if I get involved!” Because that’s like literally the stereotype for dream-like games, getting pulled into your fantasy world. I mean I’m sure Yozora is the attempt to pull from Disney and into FF, but I don’t think it’s gonna be all a dream or whatever, or like Sora is in a fantasy world as the story unfolds while Yozora is in the real world.
@TheDarkFuryKnight
@TheDarkFuryKnight 4 жыл бұрын
Remember the first trailer of KH where Riku said that sora will disappear and they need to save sora and then the sentence sora please don't go. I am sure Yozora was planned.
@flygonkerel781
@flygonkerel781 4 жыл бұрын
That shit was darrrk
@browhat1161
@browhat1161 4 жыл бұрын
Where can I find that trailer?
@Redxan600
@Redxan600 4 жыл бұрын
I'm certain you're talking about the beta trailer? Those lines really shook me. Who knows how long Nomura has that planned.
@TheDarkFuryKnight
@TheDarkFuryKnight 4 жыл бұрын
@@browhat1161 just type in KH1 beta trailer
@kaitourobin3206
@kaitourobin3206 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe not planned but recycled to further along the story.
@mimiozee
@mimiozee 4 жыл бұрын
9:50 for everyone looking for the title of the video
@sa-te8xn
@sa-te8xn 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck..... thanks
@mowrt620
@mowrt620 3 жыл бұрын
KZfaqrs rlly know how to waffle
@AkutoSai
@AkutoSai 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!
@candelapugliese
@candelapugliese 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Perfectix
@Perfectix 3 жыл бұрын
LOOOOL thanks king. he rly milkin this
@Sea25416
@Sea25416 4 жыл бұрын
If I have to be honest, Yozora might have been idea, that Numora had in the back of his mind for so many years. Either that or it might just be a coincidence
@Malnaxe
@Malnaxe 4 жыл бұрын
no coincidences in kingdom heats
@Astraldymensions
@Astraldymensions 4 жыл бұрын
Could be. If he was even a tiny idea back then I wonder why now he's chosen to introduce Yozora.
@coreylucas5346
@coreylucas5346 4 жыл бұрын
So it’s not just a Noctis rip off. 😳
@knightmare39
@knightmare39 4 жыл бұрын
@@coreylucas5346 It seems like Noctis is a Yozora ripoff lol
@kaitourobin3206
@kaitourobin3206 4 жыл бұрын
Either it was Kairi's line, or it could be a character idea that became yozora. I been writing a novel as a hobby since 2012 and i have definitely scraped and recycled characters ideas like so.
@bobbyOpetey
@bobbyOpetey 4 жыл бұрын
"I've been having these weird thoughts lately. like is any of this is for real or not?" yazora waking up in the car....
@yderga8707
@yderga8707 4 жыл бұрын
I swear if nomura pulls as rabbit out of his hat and says this was all planned from kh1 I'm going to lose it.
@BarachielGaming
@BarachielGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I said something like this in someone else's video but no one believed me
@UnVelius
@UnVelius 4 жыл бұрын
Nomura is gonna recreate the line with Yozora?? "Is any of this for real, or not?"
@vaporwavewlw5632
@vaporwavewlw5632 4 жыл бұрын
Dude Yozora and Sora saying that line together gave me chills
@Hi-Rise
@Hi-Rise 4 жыл бұрын
As a huge riku fan (with all the obvious parallels between riku and sora and yozora) i noticed that there can easily be a point in VR when riku becomes yozora. This can mainly be theorized because of the ending of kh3 (yozora’s interest in riku), riku’s ties to “never losing” in kh1, and the fact that riku in multiple points of kh does “save” sora.
@Hi-Rise
@Hi-Rise 4 жыл бұрын
And donald mentioning how riku would make a good video game character (during rex calling sora yozo) really made me suspicious as to what nomura was thinking. Also yozora knows he doesn’t normally look the way he does (as he states to sora).
@Hi-Rise
@Hi-Rise 4 жыл бұрын
Holy crap AND the fact that both yozora and riku dream of encountering sora, making their dreams the “key” to finding sora.
@eduardosolistinoco9698
@eduardosolistinoco9698 4 жыл бұрын
10:16 quoting KH 3D: "No, it cannot be. Could he be that cunning. Possess that kind of foresight?" Nomura = Xehanort
@jmax0431
@jmax0431 4 жыл бұрын
@Game B Podcast I was about to comment the same thing you beat me to it lmao
@Redxan600
@Redxan600 4 жыл бұрын
10:15 You underestimated Nomura-san. Who knows what's going on inside that mind of his.
@HeartlessRandomguy
@HeartlessRandomguy 4 жыл бұрын
So wouldn't it be interesting, if the blank Nomura mentioned was "photos" XD
@Dreq458
@Dreq458 4 жыл бұрын
nomura is a tortured soul. he's super creative and full of ideas, but SE won't give him anything outside of KH and disney limits what he can do with KH saying "dude, we have our own brand identity; you can't just do whatever the hell you want with our IPs attached."
@Pioxys
@Pioxys 4 жыл бұрын
Facts. I love these insane ideas. Yet Square Enix over here be like: "Who do you think you are? Sakurai?"
@b3ardedragon921
@b3ardedragon921 4 жыл бұрын
Which is probably why the next kh games will have less Disney worlds and more original worlds. Sora is venturing off on his own as well. This way he could do more of what he wants
@jeffreyali3644
@jeffreyali3644 3 жыл бұрын
He did well with FF7R
@Klffsj
@Klffsj 4 жыл бұрын
I still think of Noctis, not as a Final Fantasy character that Nomura wanted to put into Kingdom Hearts, but as a Kingdom Hearts character that was going to be introduced through Final Fantasy. The parallels between him and Sora have been there since the first Versus XIII trailers. Yozora isn't in Kingdom Hearts because Nomura's salty; he's in Kingdom Hearts because that's where he always belonged.
@neovssmith19
@neovssmith19 4 жыл бұрын
What are some parallels between noctis and sora? They seem very different to me besides the their love for their friends
@Klffsj
@Klffsj 4 жыл бұрын
@@neovssmith19 It's not so much similarity in personality as much as parallelism at a more symbolic level. For example, I believe Noctis was always meant to be a little moody, which is exactly unlike Sora; but, I suppose them being polar opposites in some characteristics could also make my point. Anyway... Firstly, their name: Sora means "Sky" in Japanese whereas Noctis Caelum and Yozora both mean "Night Sky" in Latin and Japanese, respectively. In interviews, Nomura has talked about their similar names (Sora and Noctis Caelum) and how much he loves them as his own characters. In early trailers for Versus XIII, you see Noctis sitting in on a throne with his legs crossed and his head resting on his fist. As it turns out, Sora has sat on a throne with the exact same posture in promotional images. (In fact, another one of these was put out for KH3 as well.) I want to say that those images have been around since before the VS XIII trailers, but I can't find any proof of them before the Final Mixes. I wasn't a KH fan back then, so I could be a little off on that timeline. Later on, the 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue was based on a certain shot from Versus XIII of the characters walking toward the camera. This is less direct to Sora and Noctis/Yozora, but it still shows some level of connection between Kingdom Hearts and Versus XIII. Admittedly, I can't think of any other parallels or strong similarities except what we see in KH3. It doesn't help that Noctis in FFXV probably ended up being completely different from what Nomura imagined. Still, I think these first two parallels make obvious that Nomura intends the two characters to be two sides of the same coin in some manner. Here's hoping that the next game shows us what manner that is. (Or just leave us confused like always.... That's good too I guess.)
@neovssmith19
@neovssmith19 4 жыл бұрын
@@Klffsj I do know about the drawing of sora on a thrown and you could unlock the crown for him to wear in KH2 but that was always random to me and the connection to notcis is just very broad maybe we will get more explanation with yozoras origin story
@dirtychicken2173
@dirtychicken2173 4 жыл бұрын
@@Klffsj they follow somewhat similar journeys if you nitpick it enough. They're both fighting for the light, heartless were man made by ansem, deamons were man made by the empire but both had naturally occurring species that interested the antagonistic powers. Sora loses Donal and Goofy in Hollow Bastion, Noct loses all his friends in the Crown City for a bit. Raevus would fit in with Organization XIII pretty well but that doesnt mean anything Edit: here's a big one, they're both looking for their loved one and once they find each other, they , spoiler alert, take that big L and get got
@trisryan4161
@trisryan4161 4 жыл бұрын
After hearing this, I think I've realized something. He didn't try to make Noctis from scratch, he took Noctis from his concepts and ideas from KH1. But since he couldn't finish that game hes using them in KH again. The secret ending to KH1 draws A LOT of parallels to the trailer we got for FFv13. Dark city, swarmed by enemies, running up the building. What if he's not trying to reuse ideas from V13, but instead reusing ideas from KH1. And it's no secret that Noctis' name is the opposite of Sora's name in meaning. Even places like Scala ad Caeum were taken from unused ideas. In this case he took inspiration from "Cable town." Whose to say that he just makes up this story as he goes along? Whose to say he didn't just plan ahead.
@meteornome2556
@meteornome2556 4 жыл бұрын
Nomura said in 2012 when DDD was coming out what he couldn't put in Kingdom Hearts he would put into Versus XIII and vice versa. Since Versus XIII never was realized, he can now implement all of his ideas from that game into Kingdom Hearts.
@SSlash
@SSlash 4 жыл бұрын
Tristan Rempert but cable town is just a fan name of what they called Scala before we had any idea of its identity, people first saw the chess room way back in 2014 for the 2.5 launch event when a short clip of sora entering the room was shown behind closed doors...
@trisryan4161
@trisryan4161 4 жыл бұрын
@@SSlash oh, really? I thought it was originally an concept from kh1 or sometning. Like the scraped "Giant" fight in kh2.
@SSlash
@SSlash 4 жыл бұрын
Tristan Rempert as far as I’ve heard, no, it was just literally a fan made term based off what they saw because actually what I said was wrong, apparently the camera panned INTO the chess room after having shown the outside so man, people got to see Scala on the old engine, wild!
@TheDaysEnd
@TheDaysEnd 4 жыл бұрын
"I have been having these weird thoughts lately. Like is any of this for real or not?" This was stated in the beginning of KH 1 by Sora and at the end of KH3 REMIND by Sora and Yozora.
@OrganizationXIII
@OrganizationXIII 3 жыл бұрын
Ok so what does that mean?
@TheDaysEnd
@TheDaysEnd 3 жыл бұрын
I could begin to speculate based off of the end of KH Union X. Perhaps it's like a distant memory they are experiencing (reincarnation) from a past life. I mean the line is vague in both games context.
@brannycedeno6823
@brannycedeno6823 4 жыл бұрын
What if Yozora and his world is a concept he has had even before he started this Disney thing? He probably thought about making an original game himself before KH came to the table. Would you imagine it? And let's be honest: guy's a master mind. He had a lot of talent for original stuff. I mean, when he is not dealing with someone else's work like Disney or FF. I want to see him work on more original stuff of his own.
@Spartan-343
@Spartan-343 4 жыл бұрын
He definitely hadn't planned out Yozora way back in the day of KH1. Heck those words in the opening of KH1 were only there cos he was told to put words in the opening I read. Whoever he planned to have speak those lines later was definitely not Yozora or a precursor to him back in the day of KH1.
@Matcha_Lily
@Matcha_Lily 4 жыл бұрын
Its possible it was Yozora, Versus 13 first trail was dropped in 2008 kh1 was released in 2002, theres a huge possibility Nomura already had a good portion of Yozora aka KH Noct planned for the KH series. You have to think what he would have already had laid out before the Verses trailer was released.
@cillbipher2613
@cillbipher2613 4 жыл бұрын
SpartanBB343 Yeah. Yozora being planned ever since 2002 is just ludicrous.
@Spartan-343
@Spartan-343 4 жыл бұрын
@@Matcha_Lily I don't think so. Noctis wasn't even a thing then likely and without Noctis, Yozora would never have been.
@trisryan4161
@trisryan4161 4 жыл бұрын
In my game design class ~2 years ago I have ideas for a video game. A lot of them. And I continued updating it till I ran out of room. And If I wanted to make a video game, that is the first thing I'd go to. And it's not even my job to make video games. It was mainly for fun.
@Matcha_Lily
@Matcha_Lily 4 жыл бұрын
@@Spartan-343 you have to remember verses before it became FF15 was originally under Nomura before it was switched so yes there is a possibility and he was also working on Kh games during it's process
@houcky7777
@houcky7777 4 жыл бұрын
I mean it's highly unlikely that Nomura was thinking so far ahead of the future of kingdom hearts that he was referring to yozura. Which is exactly what Nomura would want you to think. Son of a b...NOMURAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
@TheNerdyPunk
@TheNerdyPunk 4 жыл бұрын
Nomura was working along side with young Nomura
@luisburgos7365
@luisburgos7365 4 жыл бұрын
This is silly. After watching the beta trailer for KH1, it’s really easy to just say “he planned this for 20 years omg what a genius” But no. It’s most likely a scrapped plot element he decided to bring back. Sora disappearing and all that. This “character” he spoke of could have been Yozora but I can say I’m pretty certain by this point Yozora didn’t have a name or character design. It could have been another character from KH1 for all we know. Could have been Kairi. He’s way too vague and people eat it up as genius storytelling without realizing how easy it is to put in unexplained things in a story and give it a purpose later in sequels. Much later. Edit: Better yet. Not even a scrapped plot element. He could have fucking been referring to Roxas. Roxas wasn’t even a thought to us after KH1’s release. I’m sure Nomura had that planned since the beginning at least. That’s much more reasonable
@marlinexton6081
@marlinexton6081 4 жыл бұрын
Completely agree 👍
@shiranui2844
@shiranui2844 4 жыл бұрын
He knows, it's for clickbait.
@luisburgos7365
@luisburgos7365 4 жыл бұрын
Nome Sobrenome exactly. Some things he might have planned out already. Maybe about 1 or maybe even 2 games ahead. But you’re gonna tell me that device in that one weird room with all the Invisibles in KH1 was PLANNED to be a time machine? When time travel wasn’t even mentioned until more than 6 games later? I’ll give him credit where it’s due though. That particular plot point was cool, and it shows that he can really improvise in his stories.
@lucaseaton4636
@lucaseaton4636 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with this. He’s definitely referring to Roxas, because in the Ansem reports in KH1, they reference nobodies. Plus, plot wise it makes absolute sense for Roxas to say “I’ve been having these weird thoughts lately...like is any of this for real? Or not?” In relation to him dreaming about Sora
@OmriSama
@OmriSama 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao thank you. This is Retconning taken to unholy levels. This video was ridiculous clickbait.
@cameronlynch7480
@cameronlynch7480 4 жыл бұрын
It is official, Nomura is just on a different level than the rest of us. Perhaps the plot wasn't just made up as it went along like so many people seem to think.
@Jghost11
@Jghost11 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, I definitely still think that the whole plot was thrown together along the way. He was just able to revisit old unused ideas, now that the current saga ended. To me it is a simple throwback to the phrase in the beginning of the game. Even in this clip he is only thinking about 4 or 5 games. In other interviews he has said that he wasn't sure how many games he would be able to make and not know if it would even become a series in the first place.
@AstraFulminous
@AstraFulminous 4 жыл бұрын
I think its a mix lots of Japanese Developers and Writers plan for a future they might encounter but not neccesarily are guaranteed to end up with.
@Yurikon3
@Yurikon3 4 жыл бұрын
Planned or not... The main question is, is the story actually that good or interesting to begin with.
@brandoa1131
@brandoa1131 4 жыл бұрын
Roope Reimi to me it was until they kh 3 kinda fell on it until the graveyard.
@Yurikon3
@Yurikon3 4 жыл бұрын
@@brandoa1131 there were peculiar concepts but for me they always seemed to be executed in a lackluster way.
@digitamaqueen
@digitamaqueen 3 жыл бұрын
I think the "secret" was referring more to what was revealed to be Mickey guiding Sora through the Station of Awakening. But it wouldn't surprise me if Nomura had ideas of Noctis/Yozora already roughed out in his head.
@StaraviaXIII
@StaraviaXIII 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone: "Nomura just makes it up as he goes" Nomura: "so you think"
@juri0999
@juri0999 4 жыл бұрын
You can for sure tell they love this series. It’s one of a kind
@tylercafe1260
@tylercafe1260 4 жыл бұрын
Random Theory: Kairi was supposed to say those words. She fell into a trance before the island was destroyed and when she came to Sora turned into magic dust while a duck and dog save her. Then she hug a shadow monster and it became Sora then she went another world then shortly after got sucked onto the shores of her island as it was reforming as Sora and her drift worlds apart. It would have also been an interesting way to introduce the idea that Kairi forgets Sora. "Maybe that boy in my memories were just wild dreams" or something along those line. If it was Noctis? That'd be very random since that'd be around the time FF12 was in development and wouldn't be released until about 4 years after Kingdom Hearts 1 and about 1 year from KH2.
@UnrebornMortuus
@UnrebornMortuus 3 жыл бұрын
Yozora was a concept he wanted to bring into Kingdom hearts it never got brought into it, so he wanted to bring it into versus 13, that didn't end up happening so now it's back in kingdom hearts.
@kaison12205
@kaison12205 4 жыл бұрын
If I had to guess it was probably originally Roxas or sora saying those words as Roxas was already mostly planned in his head and the words make sense to sora
@chrisringrose02
@chrisringrose02 4 жыл бұрын
I think Nomura does a good mix of planning ahead and retroactive writing So while I don't believe he planned ahead that far it is cool to see him take small things from older games and make them relevant, it allows us to look at all those games with a more keen eye as he might just make anything important.
@kday42
@kday42 4 жыл бұрын
Nomura turn on your location I JUST WANT TO TALK
@f.prince6642
@f.prince6642 3 жыл бұрын
In final fantasy 15 when noctis goes to sleep in the crystal. How much you want to bet sora goes and helps him wake up.... bruh kingdom hearts is deep.
@bubmario
@bubmario 4 жыл бұрын
The Ansem Report podcast touched on something similar, but not as far back... After KH2 was released and the team moved to work on FF Versus XIII, Nomura was quoted as saying he HAD to finish that game before he released KH3. At the time, we all thought it was just logical progression of finishing one project before starting another. Without this context, it certainly sounds like it. But considering this hint, the interview, and the content of the ReMIND episode....
@BackSlashJvb125
@BackSlashJvb125 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i am planning to do 3 or 4 games. ME RN: WHAT
@Caterfree10
@Caterfree10 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Nomura’s referring to Sora there. Sora was saying those words alongside Yozora after all.
@althea7181
@althea7181 3 жыл бұрын
Agree
@aegisxiii2384
@aegisxiii2384 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree. There is no way it could have been planned that far in advance. What Yozora is saying in the end is an echo of the beginning of KH1 to show that this is a new beginning, not the other way around. Although if you look at the beta trailer of KH1, Riku tells Sora he is about to disappear (which spoils the end of Kh3, lol). I guess it's more about common themes that are important to Nomura and he just keeps them in mind for the right occasion.
@Spitfire_94
@Spitfire_94 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Nomura didn't even know Kingdom Hearts was going to be a success in 2001. Back then it was a gamble and a chance encounter.
@Mike_Dubo
@Mike_Dubo 4 жыл бұрын
Scott Cawthorn: As expected from my master.
@walelarose
@walelarose 4 жыл бұрын
Nomura: *"They called me a madman"*
@Toy-Wave
@Toy-Wave 4 жыл бұрын
something interesting to note is the secret ending, at the time of its creation no concrete plans were made on that narrative of KHII, and the secret ending as described by Nomura; was more of an amalgam of concepts and ideas for the sequel and story going forward, with that in mind, alot of the vague text and dialogue quoted in it andDeep Dive start to feel less random and more hints at the very ideas were starting to surface now, (bare with me im absolutley grasping at straws here and this is all just speculation) "a world without you" (touching on ideas similar to Sora fading away at the end of KH3 after saving Kairi) "A Fragmented Tale (multiple sides to the same story, simmilar to how Yozora reflects Sora in name) and even "The Eyes Will Close" with its vague connections to being asleep, or dreaming which is a prevalent theory to what Sora's journey up to this point has been, which is ALSO reflected in some of the writings in deep dive "maybe our journey was for nothing.." obviously some of this was re-contexualized for genuine cannon events within KH2 but in broad strokes you can see the blooming of ideas that are only now starting ti fully come together, before Roxas was evern a thing the idea of an "alternate sora" looking for, or trying to save Sora was present, just like Yozora, hell~ ANOTHER SIDE ANOTHER STORY??? like sure because of hindsight we think Roxas but if you dont what does that sound like its referring to? another side of sora, multiple journey's hapening concurrently, not only has that theme been present in KH for a loong time from DDD, to birth by sleep, it absolutley reflects what it feels Yozora is going to embody. now once again this is just conjecture and speculation, but clearly nomura has had some base line ideas of where he wanted the story to go, especially if back in 2001 atleast 4 games were considered, who's to say vague plot ideas werent already being planned out? some of an alternate Sora, in a far away dark city, whom was not only fighting, but looking to save, or find Sora? what we saw became Roxas, but that idea has lingered, along with the little unanswered questions that all start to make more sense the more you think about it,,why do final fantasy characters just seem to be present as natives to the world of KH? but not Cloud or Sephiroth? why all these disney characters? especially with the sharp contrast between yozora's world and Sora's it almost feels like everything Sora knows, WE know about KH might not even be real, even a dream? who's to say, as insane as my ramblings are maybe some interesting thought nuggets wriggled into there, take everyhting i say with like a dumptruck of salt im just shooting ideass
@WARPAINTandUnicorns
@WARPAINTandUnicorns 4 жыл бұрын
I would think he is talking about Sora's nobody Roxas. He might not even had a name for him back then but thinking about Deep dive and Roxas story it's this for really or not makes more sense. That said yeah he totally remember why he was going to put it at the end of KHI and thought it was fitting with this new story arc with Yazora!!!
@luisburgos7365
@luisburgos7365 4 жыл бұрын
Yea people are getting way too ridiculous with Nomura’s story writing capabilities. I mean he’s not horrible but holy shit his answers are so vague people wanna jump on the hype train and say he planned everything all along for 20 years. No. He most certainly didn’t lol he didn’t even think KH1 would take off as well as it did lol
@Zelink108
@Zelink108 4 жыл бұрын
Luis Burgos What about his statement about the “hooded man” in the Destiny Islands cave at the beginning of KH1 implying he had the time travel thing planned.
@luisburgos7365
@luisburgos7365 4 жыл бұрын
Zelda Fan77 The hooded figure he said was Ansem tho. Only later did he change it so that it was only Ansem’s heart and he had time travelled. It’s pretty easy to make up your own rules for how things work like time travel. Even easier was that we never see that hooded figure ever take off the hood or anything, unlike say, Organization XIII members.
@hypersonic404
@hypersonic404 4 жыл бұрын
I think it might’ve been Kairi
@sarahkh9878
@sarahkh9878 4 жыл бұрын
What?This is crazy!! i respect Nomura even more now. God, i love him so much. 💖😍
@danisle4379
@danisle4379 4 жыл бұрын
I've definitely been enjoying this series!! Getting a look behind the curtains is really enjoyable! You and PlayStacin are pretty much the only people (at least on my radar) putting KH content out on the regular. Even the X Keepers are doing little to nothing with KH these days. Loving it Prodigy!!
@yderga8707
@yderga8707 4 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest mysteries of KH (to me) has been the portrayal of sora as a king, sitting on a throne with a crown. As well as a crown necklace. Many people dismiss it as just a "design aspect" or "non canonical artwork" but I think weve all learned that Nomura doesnt do anything by accident or just for effect. From the eyeball on xNorted- keyblades to the giant black heartless looming over ansem in kh1, all skimped over, all had story elements. The fact that "verum rex" means true king Is what baffles me the most about this, along with the toy box characters acknowledging yozora looks like sora when he clearly doesnt.
@TreYetto
@TreYetto 4 жыл бұрын
As a KH fan you should understand the answer because it's kinda simple. Nomura exists in the past present and future at the same time there is no other explanation.
@liamwhite3522
@liamwhite3522 3 жыл бұрын
As awesome as it would be that Nomura had it all planned out since KH1 to have -Noctis- I mean Yozora in his game, that's not the case. He planned for someone to say those lines at the end of KH1, so it was supposed to be someone in KH1, or else Roxas from Another Side, Another Story.
@noctsickversus9632
@noctsickversus9632 3 жыл бұрын
Ok I believe you! (But really tho)
@KingdomHeartsFan-mu9cf
@KingdomHeartsFan-mu9cf 4 жыл бұрын
This was a mindblow. Can’t wait for COM!
@DillonMeyer
@DillonMeyer 3 жыл бұрын
I bet the opening pitch line in the elevator to get FF x Disney as a game was: "...I've been having these wierd thoughts lately..." When they said yes, absolutely, let's do it: "Is any of this for real or not?"
@jamesp6595
@jamesp6595 3 жыл бұрын
I really wouldn't be surprised if this has been his plan since the beginning. We got the first Versus 13 trailer in 2006. Kingdom hearts came out 5 years earlier. KH was always supposed to have heavy Final Fantasy presence, they are vital to the story in KH1. Nomura may have already developed the concept of Noctis and VS13 way back in 2001 and he even stated once that Noctis was always supposed to be connected to Sora in some way. Versus 13 was always meant to be connected to Kingdom Hearts. Then we have the secret ending of KH1. The parallels between that memory skyscraper battle and the battle in the first versus trailer are pretty obvious.
@BooneDavey
@BooneDavey 4 жыл бұрын
Yo if we're talking about the words the pop up, without any voice-over, referencing "You're the one who will open the door." to Sora... Then that's already been confirmed as King Mickey. By Nomura. You can Google "who speaks to Sora at the beginning of Kingdom Hearts," or something similar, and it should come up.
@b13brink
@b13brink 4 жыл бұрын
lets not blow this out of proportion but i do think this means something just not what you said. To me it sounds like one of 2 things either roxas was going to say it at the end since I feel that would make sense considering his spotty memory maybe he would wake up in kh2 and think that was all a dream. Thats what i feel the most likely answer is. But the second possibility is that there was a character not specifically names but the idea of someone who would parallel or have to save him and what not so maybe yozora or noctis specifically werent made but the idea of someone like that being in kh sequels may have been a thing it mightve also been a scraped idea that nomura decided to pick up to revive his boy noctis
@kofrius
@kofrius 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve never clicked on a video so fast.
@a.s.l711
@a.s.l711 4 жыл бұрын
When are those interview from
@devKazuto
@devKazuto 4 жыл бұрын
What line is Nomura referring to?
@couver73
@couver73 4 жыл бұрын
It's possible that one of the things Nomura considered during the pre-production of Kingdom Hearts was an additional character but had no way to add them into the story. But as time went on, and some problems like VERSUS never happening, now felt like the time to retread old ideas, see if anything can be gleaned from it as something viable for the story. Maybe Yozora was merely a blank slate of an idea that only with the start of a new saga can lead to something new.
@casym5921
@casym5921 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Nomura IS that crazy. He said something pointing to this idea since Re:mind. He said that "I've been having these weird thoughts lately. Like, is any of this for real or not?" was always a more important line than any of us realized. Nomura claimed that at one point, KH was in bad shape and looking like it might not get the green light unless he could come up with something to really spark the higher-ups' interest. That line and the yet to be revealed significance behind it is what got Kingdom Hearts the green light. I'm so sick and tired of people saying "Nomura comes up with this shit as he goes."
@yer9105
@yer9105 4 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt this series had an overarching plan.
@meteornome2556
@meteornome2556 4 жыл бұрын
He had an idea where he wanted it to go, but he definitely didn't plan all of it to the minute detail beforehand for the sequels.
@skybattler2624
@skybattler2624 4 жыл бұрын
The original one to actually say those line is supposed to be Versus XIII Noctis... Yozora is just the afterthought. That explains everything. Nomura isn't bitter about FFXIII... It is integral to his storytelling.
@slchi6144
@slchi6144 4 жыл бұрын
I do remember hearing from a recent interview about him discussing that beginning line and how he always loved it and really wanted to bring it back at some point and it fit well at the point that we are at now, so I do believe he's always been waiting to put it down in game for good as a callback, but who knows if he had that idea it was going to be Yozora this whole time. Nomura is such a mad man.
@tjskeyblade
@tjskeyblade 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your video
@jrm9589
@jrm9589 4 жыл бұрын
Aw man i miss the old times when i could play kingdom hearts 1 Thought i couldn't even reach to first but i still liked it alot its one of my favorite childhood games I have kh3 either but not kh2
@ITSNICKMELLO
@ITSNICKMELLO 4 жыл бұрын
We went from Character designer in one of the greatest games of all time (Final Fantasy 7) to lead/game director for one of the newest greatest games of all time (Final Fantasy 7 Remake) because of his work with Kingdom Hearts.
@DigiBrad
@DigiBrad 3 жыл бұрын
Although I love the idea of it being Yozora, but if I'm being realistic I think it was supposed to be Roxas. Especially considering Roxas gets memories from Xion about sora's live. So he would question him self about having weird dreams and if any of it would be real
@BackSlashJvb125
@BackSlashJvb125 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe mickey was supposed to say those words in kh1 lol
@janoxkasowa4154
@janoxkasowa4154 4 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure he planned on using Noctis for something but he procrastinated a lot after CoM so it would make sense years later
@RedeemerJedi5198
@RedeemerJedi5198 3 жыл бұрын
I DISCOVERED THE IDENTITY OF THE MASTER OF MASTER! Tetsuya Nomura!!!
@skyhart1377
@skyhart1377 4 жыл бұрын
Can't say about everyone else, but I would be interested in videos about the other interviews.
@TacoLex
@TacoLex 4 жыл бұрын
Honesty I think it could’ve been any other character and not just Yozora saying those words. But looking at how the story played out then maybe Nomura just decided later on after vs13 and XV that Yozora would say the opening phrase.
@Spartan-343
@Spartan-343 4 жыл бұрын
It wasn't Yozora. He wouldn't have had him in his head back then. Heck those words weren't even gonna be a thing until someone told him to put words or sentences in the opening I read. So no, Yozora wasn't planned or teased back in KH1.
@jakeriese4862
@jakeriese4862 4 жыл бұрын
They also got Willa Holland from Arrow as Thea Queen for Aqua
@kenkaneki9176
@kenkaneki9176 4 жыл бұрын
What an absolute mad genius!
@blksheepramirez
@blksheepramirez 4 жыл бұрын
Nomura is a master at his craft, it doesn’t surprise me if he did. I mentioned this the other day on one of your videos and you responded “definitely more than I expected”
@andrewpatton5114
@andrewpatton5114 4 жыл бұрын
Ambiguous context: it's not clear whether he's referring to "I've been having these weird thought lately," or "Thinking of you, wherever you are," which are Kairi's words and were included in KH2.
@marluxiaheart4352
@marluxiaheart4352 4 жыл бұрын
KH1 Ultimania was made before KH2. In the menu opening of KH1 there are the words "Thinking of you, wherever you are" but we only hear them in KH2 form Kairi and in KH3 "one sky, one destiny" from Xehanort. So it seems more like he means the "I've been having these weird thought lately..." from the game aka Simpel and clean opening
@polydipsiac
@polydipsiac 2 жыл бұрын
9:49 Yozora-relevant content
@luxuplays_
@luxuplays_ 4 жыл бұрын
it was probably initially Sora until recent developments. I seriously doubt he is thinking that far ahead.
@deepmind5318
@deepmind5318 4 жыл бұрын
If this interview is from way before kingdom hearts 3 started development, there's no way the concept of yozora could have existed. Director Nomura probably meant that another character such as Mickey or Riku were supposed to say the intro dialogue, but such an event was scrapped. yozora probably came into existence as a concept at least during or after the time of kingdom hearts 3D. Then again, yozora could have been a concept in the mind of the developers before they had the chance to make it a reality. There's always unused content in games.
@elixir4483
@elixir4483 4 жыл бұрын
Its actually sad that he mean that Noctis from Versus 13 was going to say those lines...... and forced to change literally EVERYTHING. BUT AT LEAST HE ACCOMPLISHED IT!!!!!
@japamessias6561
@japamessias6561 4 жыл бұрын
This was INSANE!!!!!!
@fatigue8675
@fatigue8675 4 жыл бұрын
What words In the beginning was he talking about?
@MisterResistance101
@MisterResistance101 4 жыл бұрын
Wow idk who is on more of the good stuff, Nomura or Kojima.
@connorworsham6378
@connorworsham6378 4 жыл бұрын
I think it’s more accurate to say that Nomura probably had an idea for the beginning and the end, but he didn’t know how he wanted to there. He probably had, in lack of better words, a brain storm web of scattered ideas, but didn’t know how to connect them. As KH became more and more popular, it became harder To connect the dots. He may not have had Yozora planned out to a T, but he knew what he wanted to do in the “end” or at least the end of the Xehanort Saga.
@dirtychicken2173
@dirtychicken2173 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone: This plot is so full of holes! Nomura putting out fires on his time machine: IM WORKING ON IT
@zerobeys
@zerobeys 4 жыл бұрын
F***! This is why i love this mad man, even if sometimes i hate him. This man is my hero, the craziest mad genius!!
@TruMaverick
@TruMaverick 4 жыл бұрын
9:54 is the Yazora comment.
@BigJohn0732
@BigJohn0732 3 жыл бұрын
Hey people can do what ever they want ok.
@M21cat
@M21cat 3 жыл бұрын
I think if you've been a fan of KH for a long time you realise Nomura makes things seem like he plans ahead but in reality he creates the mystery and then adds the story behind it later on.
@ironlegend1732
@ironlegend1732 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Prodigy I’ve been subscribed to your channel for about a year and a half now and I’m never disappointed with your content on kingdom hearts a game that I grew up with and I’ve been busy with work lately so now that I have the day off I tryna catch up with your videos and after watching this do you think Nomura is gonna play with the idea of reincarnations???? Or play with the idea that Sora’s heart is in Yozora kinda like Eraqus and Terra??? cause without a doubt Sora and Yozora are connected and watching this blew my mind but it’s just a thought if you like this theory you can expand on it and try to find some factual evidence to support it and on the chance that there is a theory out there already about this let’s just treat my like the over worked guy who’s tryna catch up on his favorite game but thanks for the content and stay blessed, favored, and healthy
@ProdigyxCD
@ProdigyxCD 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching the content, I think Nomura will probably try to play around with Yozora and Soras connections a bit.
@ironlegend1732
@ironlegend1732 4 жыл бұрын
ProdigyxCD No thank you my brother for being a creator and I agree if I’m looking at the good ending of the dlc why would Yozora say I guess you don’t need my power yet then Luxord helping Sora with the wild card....... or is Yozora the wild card.... and then Luxord being the driver for Yozora it’s hard for us the die hard consumers to really know what’s going on in Nomura’s crazy genius head of his but we know he loves to leave bread crumbs for us to follow But I appreciate you taking time out of your day to reply to the ramblings of a 26 year old I appreciate it and whether you know it or not content creators are also the light in this environment we currently live in no pun intended you provide a space for fun and escape I appreciate it
@WaffleBruh
@WaffleBruh 4 жыл бұрын
My time machine is my power!
@kaitourobin3206
@kaitourobin3206 4 жыл бұрын
If it wasn't Kairi's line but was indeed the character that have become Yozora, I don't think it was planned since KH1, but was recycled for KH3. Yozora already seems like using ideas that had been scrapped from other IP and Noruma finally having a chance to use them.
@matthewdickendasher1956
@matthewdickendasher1956 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve having these weird theories lately like are any of them for real or not! May you heart be your guiding key!
@m.j.s.g.x5046
@m.j.s.g.x5046 4 жыл бұрын
DaDDy YoZo.....YAMITE!!!!!!!
@unfoldedperson8737
@unfoldedperson8737 4 жыл бұрын
Nice profile pic lol
@m.j.s.g.x5046
@m.j.s.g.x5046 4 жыл бұрын
@@unfoldedperson8737 thx dude✌you too man
@Lyu-Phy
@Lyu-Phy 2 жыл бұрын
Or just carefully connected. Doubt he planned that much ahead in so many details.
@timothywilliams880
@timothywilliams880 4 жыл бұрын
I think Yozora and his friends are the union leaders from union X. Probably get they same way like Van come to the future. He could be the one lost star is waiting for in the final word
@armandosantiago9572
@armandosantiago9572 4 жыл бұрын
He finally talks about what's in the title @ 9:50
@armandosantiago9572
@armandosantiago9572 4 жыл бұрын
And it's not even worth it
@xigabrelless1980
@xigabrelless1980 4 жыл бұрын
He got us good
@mavrickindigo
@mavrickindigo 4 жыл бұрын
9:50 for what you came for
@ben_sisko2149
@ben_sisko2149 3 жыл бұрын
Gematsu just released the translation of an interview with Nomura where he says: “Typically I plan one sequel ahead of whatever that I am working on. When I was working on the original Kingdom Hearts, I was thinking about Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories. For Kingdom Hearts II and Roxas, I was thinking of starting the game with a new protagonist, but didn’t have a concrete vision at the time.” So, nope, he didn't teased anything. This also ends all these theories of Nomura being this master planner when he makes up the story as it goes (the stories are entertaining, don't get me wrong, we keep coming back after all).
@aerodat_
@aerodat_ 4 жыл бұрын
nah that's cap no way nomura had my mans planned for a whole decade and a half I REFUSE to believe that lmao
@jojonta2119
@jojonta2119 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone with common sense lol
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