YT Decoy: Back for 2023 with Big Battery!

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Rob Rides EMTB

Rob Rides EMTB

Жыл бұрын

Finally the YT Decoy has a big battery option! I test the Decoy Core 4 model, with 170mm Fox Factory Fork and 165mm of rear travel, priced at £6999.
ETHICS, DISCLAIMER and TRANSPARENCY: YT hired me to test the bike, review it and to produce a video for on my KZfaq channel, and is such labelled as a paid partnership on KZfaq. YT have have had no direct input on this content or any editorial or narrative control over the video. This paid partnership with YT has allowed me time to test the bike and also film and edit over multiple days working with an independent film crew to help capture the bike shots and produce the video content.
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@HikingWithJay
@HikingWithJay Жыл бұрын
Can we just take a minute to appreciate the bloody brilliant camera work in this video 👌
@KessuPutte
@KessuPutte Жыл бұрын
Top notch!
@tomcagle5324
@tomcagle5324 Жыл бұрын
Plus, extra props for the RR rip skilzs...better than many other reviewers, yet still human enough to error and still show it.💪
@mikebirkett010
@mikebirkett010 Жыл бұрын
Pretty darned good.
@DK-iy1wf
@DK-iy1wf Жыл бұрын
Always good camera work to be honest.👌👌
@MrHoliday3
@MrHoliday3 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. But the sound especially in the slow motion scenes is exceptional as well. A lot of people overlook how much work it is to get the sound design right. And Rob is killing it here too 🙂
@dad_hacks
@dad_hacks 7 ай бұрын
I've got a 2021 Decoy and it's an absolute beast. Best bike. I've ever owned. I've crashed it like 5 times pretty heavy and not a scratch on it. Couldn't be happier.
@Chrissy-H
@Chrissy-H Жыл бұрын
Agree with everything you've said here Rob about the way the bike handles. YT have done a great job of making a chassis which feels playful and responsive in the tight stuff, but somehow has the frame stiffness and geometry to inspire confidence on the big features and fast rough sections too. I hate flexy back ends on bikes, and thankfully the YT has plenty of frame stiffness which makes it feel amazing in the corners and on jumps. I does want to wheelie on the climbs though, but who cares.
@majordelays4909
@majordelays4909 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review rob, these are so much more enjoyable than magazine reviews in the olden days !
@andrewmapstone2933
@andrewmapstone2933 Жыл бұрын
One of the best reviews out there you motivated me to get the 720, I have a decoy and just love it the bike is super fun and lets you send it deep into the gnarl 🤘
@SDmountainbiker
@SDmountainbiker Жыл бұрын
Amazing how the Decoy is still handling its own without any updates to frame Geometry since the 2nd gen. I run my duck with a Push 11/6 coil shock and was lucky enough to land a 720Wh battery. All things considered, would put this up against just about any emtb out there. Excellent points Rob about attributes that make certain characteristics better can have a negative impact on other attributes. I choose to ride the Decoy when riding techy trails and all mountain/Enduro type rides. Even after settings up a Yeti 160e for more trail/ascending rides and customizing my Spesh Kenevo with an upgraded Boxxer kit and EXT E-STORIA coil shock, I find myself gravitating to the Decoy for its aforementioned riding traits! Currently eyeing the new 2023 Orbea Wild or Canyon Spectral:Onnn CFR to add to my stable. Can't wait to see how all the new innovations play out over the next few years! Happy Trails, and keep those vids coming Rob!
@Na2gumiBlogspot
@Na2gumiBlogspot Жыл бұрын
Very fair review. I own a 2020 Decoy Shred and can confirm everything that Rob said was spot on.
@FritzPhoto
@FritzPhoto Жыл бұрын
How interesting to recognize the exact riding spots. Awesome trails there, great filming!
@alteredshape7611
@alteredshape7611 Жыл бұрын
Liking the new camera angles and sound you have going on now..great content Rob
@ksor_mtb3359
@ksor_mtb3359 Жыл бұрын
I just put on a Schwalbe Eddy Current Rear in the back at 27.5x2.8... The extra grip, dampening, and roll over speed is insane! 100% recommend
@DavidSmith-wy5js
@DavidSmith-wy5js Жыл бұрын
another brilliant review & some great rider skills , even when your paid to ride a bike your reviewws are honest.
@_bamps_3569
@_bamps_3569 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! More full bike reviews like this please Rob!
@BikeSpiriteMTB
@BikeSpiriteMTB 10 ай бұрын
I'm on the second generation YT Decoy and I'm still very happy with how this bike performs! ON the first Decoy of 2019, I had a problem related to the Shimano motor, but that was changed at a local Shimano dealer service, under warranty. Now I own the 2022 Decoy core 2 model bought at an extraordinary price of 4200 euros and paired with a 720wh battery. The people at YT are very good at the moment on the customer support side and I see that lately they are very open to customer requests! Congratulations Rob for the video - always the best!
@peterbaka3071
@peterbaka3071 7 ай бұрын
Also looking at your combo at the moment... Did you sell the 540 batt? or you kept it and still makes sense for you to have it for certain rides? thx
@Magoo71
@Magoo71 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great eBike review....It's interesting, being as tall as you are, that you still find benefit in the Mullet setup with the 27.5 in the rear! I really appreciate your takes on the bikes you review. Cheers!
@tonyp_emtb3293
@tonyp_emtb3293 Жыл бұрын
Cracking review, loved every time I took the Core 4 out from the Mill, would love to have it alongside the Trail Eeb …if money grew on trees
@76ram1
@76ram1 Жыл бұрын
Great review and cinematography, well done.
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@tomcagle5324
@tomcagle5324 Жыл бұрын
Well done! Decoy frame update should be nice when they incorporate the bigger battery flush and fully integrated to frame profile! YT can engineer both low CG and aesthetics with the 720Wh. 🤙
@scott9930
@scott9930 Жыл бұрын
Great review as always Rob.... Really great audio!!!
@thewarr10r1
@thewarr10r1 Жыл бұрын
Another banger vid, Rob! Cracking camera work, great description of the pros and cons. Great that they now do the 720wh battery.. If they're in stock!! 👌🏻🙌🏻👍🏻👏🏻
@ScoopCooop
@ScoopCooop Жыл бұрын
I have the all 29’r but I threw an X2 on the back and bumped the fork up to 160. Ride it in the high position and this bike absolutely crushes. Finally bought the 720wh battery and have yet to test it but this bike rages. I don’t care about the EP8 rattle because I listen to music when I ride. The bike doesn’t handle DH like a Yeti but loves to go fast through light chunder and flow. A one up dropper and Saint quad pistons step the bike up dramatically. Cushcore… double downs… 2.3 rotors… the bike slays. If you’re on the fence, just do it already. Ride is sick.
@ciprian_s
@ciprian_s Жыл бұрын
You’re an artist , Rob !
@csread
@csread Ай бұрын
I bought the YT Decoy Core 5 after watching this review! Also we're the same height so you're a good size reference. 😊 I've been loving how it feels on Squamish single black trails. Like you say, it's such a fun playful bike.
@leedove7255
@leedove7255 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 Decoy (e8000) coming up to 4 years old and 15k kilometres all on top level Enduro tracks (Scottish Borders). It is a great bike to ride and I would have another but to be honest will probably go for a Bosch motor next time. The lack of rebuild capability on the Shimano is a bit crap. Since to opening of the UK support centre customer service has been great.
@TheAngryHusky
@TheAngryHusky Жыл бұрын
I had a gen 1 Decoy and ended up buying a spare battery. I have a Levo now but I have to say that the Duck was bomb proof for the most part. The only issues I had were with the original E8000 motor that had bearing issues after 5000 miles or so but YT warrantied the motor. Also the crank arm interface sucked and the cranks would come loose on occasion. The frame held up well and the bike was so much fun to ride.
@gurdipbering
@gurdipbering Жыл бұрын
What do you prefer levo or decoy
@thim8009
@thim8009 Жыл бұрын
I've been trying for months to get a couple 720 batteries. Hopefully, next month. I got a core 2, and I just bought an ultimate coil for it. Once our 8 feet of snow goes away, here we will see how it goes.
@sdigsy4414
@sdigsy4414 Жыл бұрын
Great review as per usual 👍🙏
@GF-cb8rr
@GF-cb8rr Жыл бұрын
Battery percentage can be shown with Garmin 530/830. I have a Garmin Edge 530 and Bluetooth integration is flawless.
@nobrks
@nobrks Жыл бұрын
Love thesound of the ground🎉
@jorghinte9248
@jorghinte9248 Жыл бұрын
Great video Rob ! I drive a Decoy 29er on Marzocchi Coil, Fox 38 and the 720 battery with Dowhnhill tires myself and am still thrilled by the performance at 25 kilos cool would be similar video on the same trail with the Orbea Wild 2023 non race motor as a comparison.
@BSE75
@BSE75 Жыл бұрын
compatible battery upgrades are always welcome. nice move YT & also giant too
@javimental
@javimental Жыл бұрын
I am in love with my decoy mx4.. its very playfull in corners and jumps specialy when you put the switch in high, what would be great if you would be speak about the switch in this video. anyway is a dreamy bike and a great content u do in this video ;)
@blazelong3803
@blazelong3803 4 ай бұрын
I'm thinking about getting this as my first EMTB. I've considered a few others such as the Canyon Spectral On, Carbon Levo, Cannondale (can't find a lot of info on these) but I like the overall looks of the YT. Just want something that's playful and fun.
@GerdMuller-uf2qs
@GerdMuller-uf2qs 2 ай бұрын
Then YT is the best.
@basstrom88
@basstrom88 Жыл бұрын
Wow, we live in a time where a Canyon Strive size M has almost the same reach (485mm) as a YT Decoy size XXL (489mm). Great job bike industry! (Yes I know that reach is only one factor when selecting a bike fit, but it still makes size allocations confusing)
@Marco_Dubbleyou
@Marco_Dubbleyou Жыл бұрын
I am following since Eurobike 2016 I think and I do like that we age together, turning 40 this year, I am still enjoying your content very much
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB Жыл бұрын
That is awesome! Congrats on the big 40! I'm now 42 so trying to get the most riding time possible - life can pass us by so quick! Rob.
@Marco_Dubbleyou
@Marco_Dubbleyou Жыл бұрын
@@RobRidesEMTB ❤️🙏
@stevedawe8835
@stevedawe8835 6 ай бұрын
Not sure if I missed it or not, how tall are you. Amazing job, thanks for all the information! Cheers
@ronniefaustino3951
@ronniefaustino3951 11 ай бұрын
Nice camera work 👍
@matthewgabb5360
@matthewgabb5360 Жыл бұрын
Local enduro tracks ?? Looks like Triscombe to me - hope you had a blast - I love a run down the chimney! Great content keep it coming .
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB Жыл бұрын
It was!
@simonwilltrack
@simonwilltrack Жыл бұрын
I can see trissy from my upstairs window. Was there a bit of Minehead there too?
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB Жыл бұрын
Yep! Triscombe / Minehead in the video 👍
@CaliradoKid
@CaliradoKid Жыл бұрын
Whoa. I kinda want one. 😮
@bikeninja956
@bikeninja956 Жыл бұрын
beautiful bike and nice review as per usual. Just curious what lens you're using to get the intro shots and @ 0:19? Love that super shallow DOF..
@SUKM4DIK
@SUKM4DIK Жыл бұрын
I can’t afford the bike, I’m here to support the channel ❤ great scenes 🎬
@mikebirkett010
@mikebirkett010 Жыл бұрын
Ah Rob, speaking as a mountain biker of 40 years, (Keith Bontrager, Hans 'No Way'), I remember when down hillers were looking at 26 inch front, 24 inch rear to reduce the unsprung weight. Mind you, my first Rocshok Judy was an elasometer fork with 60mm of travel on an Orange P7, circa 1994, mostly turned to cheese now. Anyone got medium lasto stacks for my fork?.
@alext4124
@alext4124 7 ай бұрын
Another great video, did you run this bike in the High or Low position and did you prefer one over the other?
@mikesavicky503
@mikesavicky503 Жыл бұрын
I love my Decoy! Great review. 🤙
@SamsBikes
@SamsBikes Жыл бұрын
Nice one Rob... The Decoy is still a contender now with the new 720Wh battery definitely before it's time and dated on very well
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB Жыл бұрын
Cheers Sam! Hope you’re good mate! Yes now it’s finally got the big battery, so much better!
@sdigsy4414
@sdigsy4414 Жыл бұрын
@SamsBikes @ RobRidesEMTB Both of you gentlemen had an influence on the purchase & upgrades of my emtb (kenevo). Keep up the great work 👍🙏😁
@chickenclips
@chickenclips Жыл бұрын
your videos are becoming very good. Channel has grown a lot
@chadsugden411
@chadsugden411 Жыл бұрын
You could look to find a dropper with a lower stack height to try and help get that seat out of the way.
@keehotee1357
@keehotee1357 Жыл бұрын
I have the core 2 and the rear end suspension is superb on the lower end build as well. Combined with a Smashpot on the Zeb Select the sus is really, really good.
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB Жыл бұрын
Nice! They did a real nice job with the suspension platform.
@cyclopath1000
@cyclopath1000 Жыл бұрын
Can you ride some of the lightweights over the same gnar and show us the limitations. I have a 2019 COMMENCAL meta 27.5 with arc 40 rims and would like to see if lighter bikes can hold up on your terrain which seems close to what I find in NorCal and Sedona.
@droneboy1562
@droneboy1562 Жыл бұрын
Spending your own cash would you pick the YT Decoy over the Focus Jam2 or Sam2? I have the old Jam and love it but thinking of a new bigger travel bike
@norbertgrimm5289
@norbertgrimm5289 8 ай бұрын
I'm not a big fan of e bikes, but this one looks really good.
@EverydayMTB09
@EverydayMTB09 Жыл бұрын
Is this actually an updated model or just the model from 2021 with the larger battery? I don’t see any other modifications (including color) from the 2021 Core 4. Thanks!
@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120
@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120 Жыл бұрын
Also waiting for that Unno Mith review
@gingerb36
@gingerb36 Жыл бұрын
Nice graphics Rob
@lathamstylemtb
@lathamstylemtb Жыл бұрын
YT still shows the bike comes with a 540 wh battery. Where is the 720 a default option?
@CoyoteMTB77
@CoyoteMTB77 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Can you share what those bars are please as I am having similar issues on mine.
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB Жыл бұрын
Burgtec 38 Ride High but also a great option I’m using are Title AH1
@Scott-wz4sc
@Scott-wz4sc Жыл бұрын
Been out of stock for while now! Can see me buying a heckler I stead
@michapersona5654
@michapersona5654 Жыл бұрын
Kellys Theso F90 or YT Decoy Core 4? ;)
@skytegrarob
@skytegrarob Жыл бұрын
Any chance you can test the new Whyte e180 RSX MX please
@dominicbutler7311
@dominicbutler7311 2 ай бұрын
im looking at buying, how would you compare the decoy to the canyon strive on ? or are they different beasts
@johnreyes9373
@johnreyes9373 Жыл бұрын
Can you do reviews on intense tazer mx pro e-bike?
@simonlaland
@simonlaland Жыл бұрын
Liking the trail noise on this video. Bikes are currently all out of stock in both MX and 29.
@thewrx2600
@thewrx2600 Жыл бұрын
The YT's are awesome bikes when they came out, but are getting slightly dated, the shimano ep8 is kind of a let down too for such a clean ride. you should put a nice white vinyl sticker on that battery, and clean up the lines of that white frame.
@aecness
@aecness Жыл бұрын
Me encanta que pongan el peso de la bicicleta sin ningún miedo. No como otros KZfaqrs que tienen miedo a mostrar el peso de las bicicletas.
@emed1977
@emed1977 10 ай бұрын
Just bought one 2 months ago, great bike! But YT needs to have that damn water bottle in stock, I've been looking for 6 weeks now.
@waldowsxxghostxx8577
@waldowsxxghostxx8577 11 ай бұрын
So when the battery dies can the bike be used as an analog mtb or do you have to have a charge to use the bike
@mihafrelih8744
@mihafrelih8744 6 ай бұрын
Rob what do you think is it big enough for a 197cm tall rider?
@criisby
@criisby Жыл бұрын
and the review of the Relay??
@tomquimby8669
@tomquimby8669 Жыл бұрын
So I went from 30 to 38 and it made it so much better? I don't mess around with 8mm I go to 50mm and do the job properly. However I don't ride down crevasses so 67 deg head angles suit me
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB Жыл бұрын
Actually the shape, upsweep and backsweep on the replacement bars also suits me preference too, so more than just the 8mm of rise, but yes a 50mm would also have been a good option. 👍 but from the factory the front end was far too low for me.
@jdreiman3760
@jdreiman3760 7 ай бұрын
How tall are you Rob??
@berndh.6804
@berndh.6804 Жыл бұрын
Hi Rob, awesome Video and Test as always , i Love watching them 🤩👍🏻 Can you please Check out The Radon Deft Quite Soon too ??
@drew5027
@drew5027 Жыл бұрын
In the US, neither the Decoy nor the 720 battery is in stock. Also, the stated size of the bike would be more meaningful if you also stated your height.
@boy5107
@boy5107 Жыл бұрын
also im a big fan
@andrewlindley8209
@andrewlindley8209 Жыл бұрын
You want to try the bike with a coil spring on the rear.
@Johnvdubable
@Johnvdubable 10 ай бұрын
Hi Rob. I noticed that you put riser bars on this and the Canyon Strive on 2023. I can't quite get from the video all the benefits. As I'm stuck between sizes I thought of putting a riser bar on to raise the stack height if I size down but thought it might sorted the reach further. What are your thoughts?
@Johnvdubable
@Johnvdubable 10 ай бұрын
I meant shorten the reach👍
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 10 ай бұрын
I prefer riser bar to increase stack but maintain reach. A riser bar wont shorten the reach as much as rising the bars on the stem: enduro-mtb.com/en/the-right-mtb-handlebar-rise/
@Johnvdubable
@Johnvdubable 10 ай бұрын
A good read thank you. Once my spinal cord fixes and I sort the 2 prolapsed discs in my neck after going over the handle bars on a warm up run, I'll be good to experiment 🤦
@mehmetaydin7437
@mehmetaydin7437 7 ай бұрын
Hey guys iam 183cm tall and the bine falls shorter so is there a problem when i get the xxl version
@michaelmann3636
@michaelmann3636 5 ай бұрын
What was is your personal pic, if you could only have one enduro e-bike 170-180 travel at least.
@jerryofthebikes
@jerryofthebikes Жыл бұрын
heyyy Rob, what about canyon spectral:on review? :> its been quite a while when you make bike overview
@astott288
@astott288 Жыл бұрын
Yeah would like to see a review on the Canyon Spectral ON too please 🙂
@zorqis
@zorqis Жыл бұрын
With a YT downhill is the fun, and then a Capra is still the better one at that. I love it. Only if it didn't need to go uphill... :) which is why a Decoy makes sense. But this year it doesn't offer anything the competition (Orbea, Canyon, etc) would not - except the looks and the value (at the expense of a sometimes problematic support).
@atiqjunglist
@atiqjunglist Жыл бұрын
That took a while! Now the bike is finally on the "wanted" list
@br5380
@br5380 Жыл бұрын
Looks like you’ve moved as that’s not the Surrey Hills.
@thomaswhudson
@thomaswhudson 9 ай бұрын
I am 5'10 and ordered the Large.. did I screw up? My Santa Cruz Tallboy is a large so i thought that made sense to get the large.
@KevisSquatchin
@KevisSquatchin 6 ай бұрын
How does it fit?
@thomaswhudson
@thomaswhudson 6 ай бұрын
@@KevisSquatchin fits great actually
@boblipsch4450
@boblipsch4450 Жыл бұрын
The water bottle💀
@paulhusky580bts
@paulhusky580bts Жыл бұрын
Looks Like 720Wh Batteries on Different Ebikes Made by Same Firm Haibike & Focus made by same Firm wonder if that made by same Firm
@xerexon2k
@xerexon2k Жыл бұрын
I want it, but it's sold out.. ;(
@alvaronunez3792
@alvaronunez3792 18 күн бұрын
Now if they only manage to keep them in stock with out the horrible wait times
@stephan20008
@stephan20008 Жыл бұрын
They need UK STOCK!!!!!!
@spoki4a
@spoki4a Жыл бұрын
Yeah and there arent any available batteries or bikes with the big battery from the official website 😅
@tjeers3098
@tjeers3098 Жыл бұрын
Looks like your front suspension is to soft. Or your rebound is too slow.
@Chr1s_race
@Chr1s_race Жыл бұрын
Please ride a cube Stereo hybrid One55
@ManNomad
@ManNomad Жыл бұрын
Missing; Balanced and neuters big drops like a dream, Eats steeps and gnar with ease, Like all 50+ lb bikes 2-3 second pre-braking is needed to slow down in the steeps, Heavy a shit to flick into a turn(though I ride a 26er), Geometry allows you so get on it and schread everything without much thought, new battery means it is the best all around enduro out there for the price now. Otherwise great review and cinematography.
@rubinsteinkleer8334
@rubinsteinkleer8334 Жыл бұрын
Spectral or Decoy for fun ?? I can’t decide
@beatb6106
@beatb6106 Жыл бұрын
I would go for the Decoy
@offroadtalesbike
@offroadtalesbike Жыл бұрын
I‘d choosen the decoy…just because of the 170mm fork
@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120
@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120 Жыл бұрын
Nice, but YT should have equipped the bike with the updated EP801 which is significantly more quiet! Anyways, great bike!
@leedove7255
@leedove7255 Жыл бұрын
I am sure that when the 801 is available it will be on the next batch of bikes from YT.
@JoeS97756
@JoeS97756 11 ай бұрын
Does the 801 fix the rattle?
@Kenny_PL
@Kenny_PL Жыл бұрын
Is there a chance you'll be testing the "all mountain" version of Decoy?
@robrider838
@robrider838 Жыл бұрын
14:30 hook up a Gramin and get % for battery among other useful stats for the Shimano battery
@PinoyMTB_YTRider67
@PinoyMTB_YTRider67 Жыл бұрын
So your YT Decoy core 4 29er , you change the rear tire to 27.5? When I called YT Decoy USA they dont recommended no to change the tire to 27.5. Do you have a video when you do that converstion? Any issue?
@clum262
@clum262 Жыл бұрын
You mention your on XXL frame because of your height… how tall are you?
@SirArti
@SirArti Жыл бұрын
Maybe it helps, I am 186cm and own and feel really well on XL but I also hate the trend to longer and longer Reach, so maybe thats the reason…
@TheOrangep7
@TheOrangep7 Жыл бұрын
That rattle sounds really intrusive and annoying. Don’t think I could get used to that. Makes the bike sound rough.
@justinmtbiking
@justinmtbiking Жыл бұрын
How tall are you?
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB Жыл бұрын
6’3” / 190cm
@jkerskes2549
@jkerskes2549 9 ай бұрын
A battery this size should be standard in 2023 and not optional.
@jeffp5418
@jeffp5418 Жыл бұрын
Bottom line all ep8 bikes are old Tech. These companies should have just waited for the new motor (801) and rebuilt their frames around it including phezzari yeti etc.
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