"I'm gonna go on a slight rant about guns here" - Zach And here we are 2 hours and 30 minutes later, but we still want more.

Fun fact, the original 1911 design is still in use in Warhammer 40k, 40 thousand years in the future

It's said that if you stand outside the Las vegas strip and listen closely, you can still hear Zach trying to explain the difference between a single action and a double action to Mike and Mike still not getting it

Couple of things you might find interesting. 1) The .44 magnum is an N frame, not a K frame, and Elmer Keith didn't stop with Smith and wesson, he got Ruger to create the Ruger Redhawk because even the Smith and wessons couldn't handle what he was doing with the cartridge in its later years, he blew up several firearms. 2) 10mm and it's effectiveness against bears is massively overstated, a study was done showing that almosy literally any handgun was near 100% successful at stopping a bear attack. 3) the browning hi power is single action, but there were double action variations. 4) the browning hi power in game is wonderfully detailed but has one huge issue, when the slide locks back on an empty magazine the slide release doesn't move, your character instead pushes the safety down which releases the slide. 5) Sight Radius is important because the longer your sight radius, the less the front sight wobbling will effect your groups. It will also give you a finer aiming point due to the front sight appearing smaller. 6) the colt revolver is a somewhat interesting gun in that you must remove it from your dominant hand to reload it. Many people theorized that Samuel Colt was left handed but this doesn't line up, since through bored cylinders were not part of Sam Colts original design. My theory and the theory of many others is that you swap it into the left hand because that allows you to use your dominant hand to control the loose cartridges while the left hand can still maintain hold of your horses reins. Control of your very precious cartridges while on an unstable mount would be very important. 7) the ARs in game are all very awkwardly built with side charging receivers that would not work in real life, because modeling a correct T shape charging handle would be difficult on the Gameboy engine. 8) the Battle Rifle in game has a rather insanely large dispersion, which is quite strange considering the real gun, even in fairly mediocre condition, is quite accurate. 9) the battle rifle in game is a shortened tanker style garand in .308, which is a real thing. 10) the marlin 336 or brush gun was at one point the strongest lever action in the world. 11) marbles style sights were and still are a very popular modification for lever guns and single shots to this day. 12) John browning stopped working with winchester because they often cut corners on his designs in his opinion and there was some bad blood between them. 13) John Browning allegedly did not like the 1911, and passed away before finishing the Browning Hi Power, which was finished by Deudonne Saive, and it is arguable how much John browning actually did for that design. 14) browning often built his guns to be disassembled and reassembled with just a round. For example a detail strip of a 1911 can be done with a .30-06 cartridge, with the field strip being able to be done with a .45 or just your bare hands. 15) the Fatman is an amalgamation of the British PIAT, an actual fielded anti tank weapon, that used a huge spring to launch a shaped charge,, and the Davey Crockett, which you coveted well enough. 16) the hunting rifle in game is partially based off of the Winchester model 70, which is considered to be one of the nicest bolt actions out there. 17) the winchester lever action shotgun never performed well because it had issues with malfunctions, and they never really got updated for smokeless powder. Other companies have cloned them and made them safe for smokeless. 18) the Marksmans Carbine has a fictional Acog based optic that would be set far too high for a cheekweld, far too far forward for good eye relief, and the rail system is an ARMS SIR style rail that is kinda surprising to see in a game. 19) there were actually a few 5.56 miniguns and they are somewhat man portable. 20) the thing on your characters back appears to be a battery, miniguns are electrically driven. 21) the sawed off shotgun in game is actually apparently post great war. 22) the NCR service rifle is based on a Colt C7, with an A1 rear and front sight but with some A2 features like the colt Canada rifles. 23) the service rifle I believe is post war production, made by the gun runners possibly out of leftover parts from pre war. The only known example of a pre war use of that style of rifle is the survivalist, which is a service rifle with a .50 beowulf upper. 24) the ruger Standard series was created in a garage, and was designed by Bill ruger who was apparently trying to build guns like nambus 25) the .22 sub machine gun was adopted by several police departments, for busting windshields, and... prison guards. They're exceptionally rare and hilarious fun to shoot. 24) the sniper rifle does not appear to have a magazine wide enough or tall enough to hold .308 25) the varmint rifle appears to be based off of the Marlin Buckaroo. With parts of some savage guns welded on. 26) the grease gun has an incredibly slow fire rate. Many GIs preferred it to the Thompson as it weighed half as much, was a bit more controllable, and didn't have issues with wood stocks swelling. However one of the major downfalls is that the grease gun was double stack single feed, which negatively impacted the reliability and the mags were exceptionally hard to load, bad enough they incorporated a speed loader into the stocks if I recall correctly. Hope you enjoyed some of my autistic encyclopedia knowledge of stuff that barely matters

The dynamic of "a guy who knows a lot about guns" and "a guy who can keep a conversation going" really really works well in all 3 parts. god tier content and please more if it doesn't get stale.

Fun fact: the reason the devs used the PGM Hécate II for the .50 cal, was because they were tired of always seeing the barrett used in every shooter game out there, and they wanted it to be more unique.

Zach: *avoids aiming guns directly at mike at all times demonstrating ingrained gun safety habits* Also Zach: *points fat man directly at Mike's face*

I hope Zach doesn't have to rant about Borderlands' guns. I think he'd have a stroke doing so.

Zach’s Gun Rants 4 will just be Zach ranting about his army experience while holding us at gunpoint

"The Pancor Jackhammer isn't real" Ian McCollum has entered the chat..."I am the light and the way except sometimes the light is muzzle flash from 1 of the 2 Jackhammers I have!"

I love how at 17:59, you can tell proper firearm safety is so engrained in Zach that he goes out of his way not to flag Mike with the Anti-Materiel Rifle.

Zack's nitpicking about the vanilla guns just gives me more appreciation for him and for the game. You can tell from how he explains the featured guns that he knows and enjoys talking about them even if some of it are negatives. I love that and one of the reasons why I will always watch this video through even if its 50 minutes long

“This is the greatest handgun ever made. The Colt Single Action Army. Six bullets... More than enough to kill anything that moves.” - Revolver Ocelot

Fun Fact: J.E. Sawyer being sick of Barrett sniper rifles being featured in games is why the Hectate is the Anti-Materiel Rifle

Oh god, you absolutely need a Federal Firearms Licence class 7 to own a minigun. A machine gun is defined as firing more than one round per action of the trigger, and electronic triggers are banned on civilian-legal weapons. The minigun fails both of these qualifiers. HAND-CRANKED miniguns are legal, battery operated ones are a biiiig no-go

I'm actively losing braincells when zach is trying to tell mike how double and single action works

"What do you MEAN there's a shotgun with a cheese grater?!"

Someone get Zach a VR and Hotdogs, Horseshoes and Handgrenades and see how many rants will come out of that

The real version of the .22 SMG literally does fire like a very loud zipper. It's insane. Look up Forgotten Weapons shooting it if you've never seen it.

Fun fact: 9x21 is used almost exclusively as a "civilian" cartridge in italy, and some weapons have to be rechambered for that specific cartridge if you want to buy them

IT'S FINALLY HERE... THE MOMENT YOU'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR!

Never forget that John M. Browning designed the BAR entirely in his head and never wrote anything down until the functional prototype was done.

48:33 the tarkov devs have basically 3d modeled every part of every gun they’ve made with immense detail even though no one is gonna see it except in the gun customization screen

The M1 Garand was actually a great weapon early in ww2, as it was the only semi-auto standard issue infantry rifle at the time the US joined the war. Until that point the standard infantry rifles of both sides were still bolt actions.

Gunsmith here: sight radius has to do with the math used to calculate adjusting them, example M=(R*E)/D Where M is rear sight movement R is sight radius (distance between sights) E is change of point of impact D is between front sight and target and scopes are adjusted in either MOA or mils, minutes of angle, 1/60th of a degree, common in civilian scopes mils (milliradians) are decimal version commonly used in the military

"OK the ATF got to this gun and they insisted it was a pistol" Amazing joke

I'd love to see Zack break his brain looking at the absurd guns in TF2

6:21 And here I started to think that Mike's going to sing about him being a scientist salarian.

I love the “zachs gun rant” series but I prefer when he finds them in the wild and gets all giddy about it opposed to buying them all and walking through them

Gun jesus = Ian from forgotten weapons angry but disturbingly dedicated preacher = Zach.

Zach, its sight radius because accuracy is measured in MOA and the thought process was you as the shooter sits in the center of a circle and your front sight post would be the radius arm that points to the outside of the circle, your target.

Can you imagine who thought up “Man... what if we turned these nuclear bombs... and put them in a handheld _catapult...”_

When Zach said " I just have all this autistic knowledge about guns, and then some of it I dont fully understand" I felt that.

I can feel Zach’s frustration explaining Mike single/double action. Probably how my dad felt explaining it to me the first time.

Feels like Sarge taking doughnut out to the range, just sarge actually knows his shit. Love this.

I listen to one of these gun rants videos to fall asleep almost every night for months, thank you so much.

That sentence: “shooting a lever action makes you feel like a cowboy” is exactly true

can we get like a live stream about Zach ranting about guns for like 15 hours? I'd PAY for that, especially with the banter those two can create

6:10 I do believe that the beginner 10mm is actually the courier’s gun

32:30 This dude is such a gun nut instructor that in a video game he instinctually practiced gun safety XD

A third one? Already? At this rate we'll be at episode 10 before September It's like a wish made during a midlife crisis high come true

Can we get Zach his own show like forgotten weapons where he just rants about the gun in front of him before shooting it? First episode should be the pancor jackhammer.

16:54 Crazy theory for the 12.7 SMG is that it may have a complex system that pulls rounds from the magazine, moves them to the center of the gun, fires, then push it back to the ejection port.

the disappointment in Zachs voice when Mike points out something that doesn't make sense but isn't incorrect is gold

When the world needed him most

I see mike has had a bunch of un-edited content he finally decided to put together, I know that feeling

31:46 Because of Zach when I hear 'Heat Shield' I think about Cheese Graters 😂

"Then your Revolver needs a service" Aww, but the jiggling hammer give my gun character!

When they were talking about 10mm and he said bren ten, all I could think of was the Ben ten theme song

According to Sawyer, the reason the anti-mat is based on the Hecate is because he got sick to death of seeing Barretts in games.

13:32 Mechanical Designer here. Maybe the reason they call it "sight radius" is because as you aim, your kind of pivoting the gun around into different angels in order to line up both of the sights. And you usually use "radius" as the terminology for distance when you're measuring stuff that involves "angels" and "arcs" College Geometry is fun. /s

The original video in this now trilogy was the first one that I ever saw from you guys and I immediately fell in love with your content. Amazing to see how far you guys have come

"wake up babe!" "the new Zach's gun rants vid just dropped!"

I love how Zach took the effort to not flag Mike at 18:01 with the .50, even though it’s just a video game and he has no reason to not flag him outside of habit.

the Fn F2000 actually does capture ~5 empties before ejecting them, so if you are doing single fire sneaky things and only shoot a few times you dont leave brass laying around (17:30)

Zach out here accidentally recreating one of the best scenes from Predator with that minigun. Good man, absolute lad.

The reason they chose that gun for antimaterial rifle was because they were sick of seeing the Barret 50 as the only sniper rifle in games.

Secretly Mike is John Browning reincarnated and hes just being nice to Zach by playing dumb.

this is the modern way that our youtube recommendations teach us about firearms

Listening to these makes me want to ask Zach gun questions, like whether the Springfield is just a Garand with a scope on it. Just to hear him explain it.

I like how even though he’s given you like 3 hours of lecture on guns you somehow know less each time

Part 2: “Tell me something you don’t know.” Part 3: “I don’t know.”

Fun fact: the actual reason why the Hectate is in the game is because the director, Joshua Sawyer, is also a gun nut and was annoyed by the Barrett being everywhere in every video game.

I'm not really a gun enthusiasts but... These guys here actually made me go to a gun rage and fire a Winchester. And Zach is right... I didn't care about the target the reloading was so much fun and oddly satisfying. But turns out that I'm really good at hitting clay pigeons with a under-over shotgun.

Fun fact: There were actually grease guns chambered in 9mm. The army made them to distribute to civilians in western Europe when the Soviets inevitably invaded the entirety of the European continent without anyone exchanging a single nuke. Another fun fact: A very small handful of the 9mm M3s saw use during Vietnam by commando units.

Didn't we get part 2 like last week? It's Christmas!

For those who may still be a bit confused about what single and double action basically means on a gun, on Single action te trigger only release the hammer to fire the bullet (one action), in Double action guns, the trigger pulls the hammer and inmediatly releases it once it's cocked to fire the bullet (two actions). I hope this helped make it a bit more clear

So whenever I watch this, it feels like its only like 20 or 30 minutes, but the fact that the video is 50, tells you just how fast it goes by often

"i dunno what this thing on the back is if you dont reload it from there" "The minigun needs like, 5 car batteries to run" anyone gunna tell him.

When the world needed them most, they came back.

i need to watch the full series at some point - these rants show just how interesting and genuinely educational they can be but also the chemistry of these two within these rants is insanely funny - let alone when rants arent happening :)

There is nothing more enjoyable than listening to zach rant on about guns for got knows how long and mike just keeping the conversation going. its honestly great!

"your guns cant handel my bullets, they are too strong"

The conversation about the 9mm pistol could've so easily been solved if Zach just said the slide pushes the hammer back

I want them to play FEAR and hear Zach rant about the guns there

17:56 it makes me smile when I see gun guys instinctively following the 4 rules of handling a firearm in a video game

"oddly enough, a howitzers is a small arms but the minigun isnt because this is an aircraft weapons system" AC-130: IF I SAY IF IT CAN SHOOT IT CAN FLY LOAD IT UP BOYS

I wanna see Zach play Hotdogs, Horseshoes, and Hand Grenades. I imagine he'd be like a kid in a candy store.

Zack needs to play Escape from Tarkov. I would love to see how he reacts to the guns in that game.

The miniguns reload animation is the battery that powers it. The gauss rifle does the same thing, so both of them (technically) canonically have infinite ammo and only need new batteries to reload. The reason for this is, presumably, bethesda thought it looked cool and Obsidian didn't have time to make whole new models and animations

36:56 It costs $400,000 to fire this weapon for _twelve seconds._

I really wanna hear Zach's thoughts about the T-dolls in Girls Frontline now

17:59 I love the fact that he moved the gun over his head andld Followed proper gun safety even though he was playing a game

Radius refers to the distance from the mid point so when referring to it in the context of sights the front sight serves as the “mid point”. It also implies that the “diameter” of the gun is the rear sight and your target form the two edges of a circle lined up go through the “mid point”.

"it feels like im shooting 20mm rounds from this" - holding OG 14mm pistol from Fallout

Mike is like: i know very little about the inner workings of a gun. but that's not my problem, it's yours.

Actually Zach, the story with the 1892 with Browning was that Benedict told Browning if he could build him a prototype within three months, he would give him not only raise, but royalty for each rifle sold. Browning counter offered by saying if he could build the rifle + ship it to him within a month, he wanted triple the amount. If he was one day late of that agreement, he offered Benedict the rifle free of charge. Benedict took the offer and believed that Browning was probably stepping a bit too far from his comfort chair, but 29 days later, Benedict was given on his desk the prototype 1892 rifle with a note from Browning stating that it does indeed load, chamber, and fire. Browning won his wager with by just one day.

Ok, just a small clarification Browning redesigned the action to take the larger cartridges. Most of the credit for Winchester Lever-Guns belongs to Henry, who made the original and Nelson King and designers lost to time who made the Model 1866. By the way, I strongly recommend the series by Forgotten Weapons on the History and development of Winchester Lever-Guns.

"But that's why it explains it's so rare though" Yeah the Hecate is so rare that almost all Marked Men and Lobotimes and White Legs carry it around

I know, for a fact, that I'm going to rewatch these videos for years because watching two ex-mil dudes enjoy sharing knowledge with one another fills me with a happiness I have never felt before. ❤️

I like how they remain softly in character

I like how he just bought a ton of guns and stood in place for an hour talking about them

I hope he wasn't lying about the energy weapon rant. I know that it's gonna be a bit ridiculous but i can't wait

6:16 "also hes a doctor. Ever heard of the hippocratic oath?" Me: stares pointedly at Richard Gatling

Even after all this time the 12.7mm SMG is still my favorite gun in fallout new Vegas.

I'm convinced that if I talked to Zach in person I might never voluntarily breathe again because I'd be talking so long, frequently and fast about guns that I might actually die. This banter is just music to my ears.

Someone please put a Triple Action Thunder in this game so Zach can have a seizure

This guys subtitles are near Soviet Womble levels of perfection and that’s amazing

when bro said “how do triple action revolvers work”i started laughing so hard i began to have abs

Listening to Zach get all giddy over guns never gets old