“The great way is gateless, approached in a thousand ways. Once past the checkpoint you stride through the universe.” - Wumen (Zen monk)

There’s such a beauty in each person following and trusting their own unique thread(s). It’s almost a relief to learn my experiences “count” and that I am, in fact, doing it right. Right for me. Much love to you all ❤

As my teacher Hareesh Wallis likes to say, we are all threads in the infinite tapestry that is Consciousness.

Just started listening, Zubin, but want to say I’m grateful you’re addressing this. Yesterday I wrote a note to Angelo thanking him for all his pointing and inspiration, but saying I needed to bow out of my subscription and membership in his channel, because of an increasing dissonance between his style of teaching and my direct experience. I had told him previously that I feel like he, and those in his lineage, are turning this into yet another “way,” another form, another Zen. To me, even (and perhaps essentially) the term “awakening” has become distorted, if not corrupted. Just one more thing to aspire to, as we endlessly find ways to deny the immediately of our own experience. I look forward to listening to the rest of us, and I’m grateful To you for expressing it. 🙏🏼🔥🌻

It does make you feel like you're not getting it- thanks, this helps!

Thank you so much for speaking about this. Its very useful for people❤❤❤I loved this. This is my view of this topic too.🙏

So spot on. I have felt this way for a while now. Thank you for putting it into words. ❤

I agree. My experience has been different to everyone online, but I know deeply that I am following the truth, as I know this intuitively. It took me about a year of being on this path to finally stop doubting myself 24/7 and needing videos from "awakened people" or "non-dual teachers" as confirmations. I barely even watch non-duality videos anymore, because first-hand experience has shown me that the most direct answers are already within my own awareness. I still enjoy non-dual videos for pointers and different perspectives though :) there's no "should's" or "shouldn'ts" in reality. Trust yourself, it's the only thing to trust :)

Holy shit, Zubin, this is what I needed to hear. I’ve been listening/watching video after video of Angelo’s and they are just not hitting home. Whereas your videos touch me. In fact, in March the algorithm fed me one of your live streams after having not watched a video of yours in months. The next morning I woke up after an uncharacteristically sound sleep and experienced no thought for approximately 3 seconds. After that, I knew it was time to pursue this, but as I said Anglo hasn’t been helpful (obviously not his fault!) I keep reminding myself of the saying I heard almost 30 years ago in an Asian religions class, which struck me at the time: “If you meet the Buddha in the road, kill him.” Anyway, the trauma/ subconscious thread speaks to me. It fits the experiences I’ve been having in the past few months.

Thank you ZDogg! Many years of spiritual seeking here. This really helps to just relax and let go and be available to whatever is unfolding.

This was such a beautiful video that I am crying! I mean I cry at everything these days but having experienced so much of all of this throughout whatever this is, I really felt it! I do want to add that I do think talking about stages is maybe helpful to kind of know where you might be, this is not a linear path at all. Even the threads of what I am feeling come and go although oddly when I talk to the tribe or join in group sessions, there's often common experiences happening at the same time. It truly is a very individual experience.

I have enjoyed seeing your personal growth and development

Zubin THANK YOU for this! I needed this so much today. Was starting to feel like I am going crazy and frustrated listening to all the maps.

' z dog' popped into my head when i woke up this morning . So i clicked on you tube and watched first video. Just what i needed to hear right now. My joirney is intense , brutal kundilini activity ongoing about 7 years now. Seems never ending and doesnt match with so many other speakers . Deep down i know its coz ive got so much junk to clear out. But nice to hear this talk . Thanks z dog

Oh thank you for saying this, everyone has their own unique experience. I learned this when creating a way to sit in reiki energy using a combination of crystals, not one person had the exact same thing happen to them and that was so wonderful to observe. The crystals helped where it was needed and if it was solved the energy moved to the next need.

I had dozens of threads. This is such an excellent video. All is.... That's what it all came to for "Me". Oneness. God's love. Majestic entities. Christ. Nature. Pain and hatred. And the chaos strand where you realize you can literally do anything and suffer anything and none of it matters and you're liberated from consequence. Love these videos of yours. You're amazing.

Thanks for the reminder that my ‘way’ is my journey and it is perfect. Time and ‘expectations’ are simply artificial constraints ☮️

Thanks man. I've experienced what seems to be none of the "threads" you describe, yet at the same time, hearing "that's perfectly fine" is exactly what's needed. Angelo played his part when he needed to. Other teachers have as well. Or random internet people, or whatever. You have as well.

This video was an exact synchronicity answering the ineffable contemplations of my soul, and the various aspects of my own awakening. It hit deep! Thanks Zubin!

This is an excellent commentary on what is often a confusing and frustrating rabbit trail. One could spend one's life chasing after spiritual fireflies instead of enjoying the beauty of one's unique unfolding experience.

Amen! I’ve been frustrated lately by this because I’m not unfolding in the way others are saying I should and yet knowing that my suffering is lessening by following the thread I’m seemingly on. Yet not attached to a certain thread and willing to jump threads when the time is ripe. The Finders work has really made this clear to me.

This was a really good way to frame up the universality of paths to awakening. It never made sense that there could be only one way (or language or religion or story) to explain the unexplainable- and only one algorithm for coming to know it. Thanks for continuing to be the amazing communicator that you are!!!☮️❤️

That was so great, exactly what I needed to hear!!

Beautifully said. And great timing!

I have walked amongst the spaces of others' travels, and I have learned from each, and yet, my expression is designed for its own unique experiences. I have found valuable counterparts, myself, and all that is living and intersecting effortlessly for me to experience, share, acknowledge, and allow. The human expression is the verbal observer and its words create, its thoughts muster more words, and the possible has its moment to display.

Just beautiful, Doc. Beautiful and brilliant.

Thank you for putting this out there! Exactly what I needed this morning

Dr Z, so nice to see you looking so happy!

Trust your heart and how you feel. Right now, the energy is finally shifting to personal freedom. Love for all things, and regardless of those who are still shutdown and are not open chose to come to this lifetime to be who they are.

This was exactly what I needed to hear. Many thanks :)

Absolutely love it, just love it, so so important to hear for anyone on this path 🙏💛💛💛

Thank you Z! Just what I needed!

Every step one takes in life is a valid experience! Even when it may all lead to an absolute purity in which nothing perceivable seems to exist!

Love your words ZdoggMd. It is so good to respect the connection to all variety of approaches experienced on the spiritual journey. Much ❤ and blessings to you

My first encounter with this channel: lovely!

Love you so much for being you. Thank you. 4 years post awakening and it’s always emotion work that’s still clearing out. It’s fine though and quite beautiful how the self wants to heal itself. BMT nurse here, silly identify.

Each Awakening is personal. I have been studying for years

I watched this again today. Thank you so much Z!!! ❤❤❤

Such a honest realization. I’m grateful you posted this. I’ve struggled with notion only one path…. My experience and intuition have told me otherwise. Thank You

Violet had a really nice interview 2-3 days ago in which she talked about her awakening experiences. As I commented there, especially for those who are not yet awake, the biggest takeaway is that there is no "right" way to awaken. Every nervous system is unique. The same goes for further shifts. What's true for everyone: It's funny as hell once you get it. (Even if it doesn't seem like it.) 🙂🙂

I’m glad you put it out. Thank you.

This is wonderful

This is lovely, and very much the perspective that we follow at The Spiritual Care Fund. Thanks for alerting us to these thinkers.

Great video, Z! Thank you! 🙏

Thanks. I was lost and you helped me.

I needed to hear this today. Thank you.

Amazing, and very telling, to see the immense outpouring of relief in the responses here to your video. Well done!

You are great!

Zubin this is a fucking relief! Thank you for sharing this today and opening it all up. Every thing is perfect.

I was just realizing that it's now been over 25 years since I had similar blowout awakenings to what you were talking about, It has unfolded over the years, sometimes mostly in the background, but the threads continue. I'm happy to hear what you are saying here, I wish that number one. I had someone to describe that to me at the time , and number two that I had had someone compassionately meet me exactly where I was.

That was very helpful! Thank you

Thank you zdogg

This was amazing. Im in baby steps on my awakening and this really helped me understand what my journey will be like.

Incredibly supportive. Laughter and crying as you spoke.

Glad you put it out 🙏

Good talk. I had reached this idea myself a while back, I was seeing it more as streams instead of threads. Such a rich and varied way for consciousness to experience. The concepts, labels, stages are useful for the mind but when it comes to experience, bin them! You have to trust your intuition and the intelligence driving the process.

Brilliant Zubin! So helpful. Thank you! 🙏

I’m feeling overwhelmed at this point. There’s so much content out there. I feel doubt and contraction at this point. I’m going back to simple, natural meditation and maybe some inquiry. Inquiry doesn’t seem to do much for me. I need to relax

I needed this

very interesting, and havent really heard this take before. ty.

Thanks man I really related to this

Thank you for posting this! Perfect timing as these messages usually are. Truly grateful, thanks brother!

I like this conversation. 🤔😏🤗

I appreciate you so much

So good! Thank you!

Great video and something I needed to hear. I'm always trying to compare my experience to what's said in videos and I definitely let myself stress over the differences.

It's thrilling to see other people discover this! It's been crucial to my relaxation process.

Years ago I had the emptiness awakening. 12 years ago I’ve had the LOVE awakening. Now I’ve gone through the emotional awakening and am curious about what this means for me. I’m ready to read about your suggestion and hope to understand where I go from here

Well said 👏 I've had a lot of 'mentors' project on me based on their experience. I've had to learn to discern, which I guess is a blessing because it has helped strengthen my intuition 🤷‍♀️✨️

I definitely agree with the message here that there are flaws assuming any given model is going to be your experience, and this thread model seems to fit that better. However, I think something like the thread model still has its drawbacks. For example, threads suggests some sort of linearity to each thread with clear pathways, and that they are mutually exclusively. Not saying that’s what the thread model is actually about, but the idea of threads suggests those characteristics to me. It’s also becoming increasingly clear to me that teachers/facilitators typically speak based off their own journeys, interpretations, and however they were mentored. And many of them discount the ways other teachers/facilitators approach this. It feels like some loose patterns of how all this unfolds can be drawn based off different people’s experiences, but it also feels like there are no clear rules to any of this. Sometimes when I’m being honest with myself, it’s not even clear what aspects of my own actions are revealing this emptiness, or if it’s simply revealing itself. It’s essentially trying to determine causality from correlations. Any who, great video! :)

Damn, dude. Thanks for the meta-map. This is incredibly helpful

Thanks. Helpful.

Love it!!♥️

Thank you 🙏🏻

I have nothing to say. I am only commenting to boost the algorithm and help reach more people!! 😉 but the further I go, the less I have to say about it, the less I want to read about it, I just want to live my own truth my own way. No judgment to anyone for their path 🥰

It’s a fixing fact!

Helpful 🙏

Love it!

Amen brother

perception of realization is as unique as the person!

Thank to so much,don't know which thread I am in, but, it helped hearing this I hope it helps somoene else.

Great!!!

I love past life regression and in-between life time therapy. ❤❤❤

Nice experience!!

Uh great video, really nice

Thanks!

Yes all of these threads show up in varying degrees at different times, and gradually yield to, or dissolve into, each other as the unseen script dictates. So amazing, weird, wretched, glorious, peaceful, silent, diaphanous, and deep. I noticed the same thing, that one thread would be prominent for a while, then gradually dissolve into emptiness or another thread. Finally it's realized that none of the threads go away, that they all meld together effortlessly and indescribably until there is only the ever-melting Isness. 🤪

the politics thread intertwines so beautifully with all the others………

"But all I feel is unconditional divine love... so what's wrong with me?" Lol, I wish I had that problem

Right on, brother in baldness. 😂 Dr Willoughby Britton has done some really incredible work categorizing and defining some of these states, paths, and destinations, as it were. One thing I've concluded from her work is that meditating/self-inquiry techniques do not all point people to the same destination experientially. Make sure to check what your interest in awakening/enlightenment really is, and then look to see that the technique matches your goal! If you want to be in the world, and have a job, and a family, perhaps a spiritual tradition where all the fully developed teachers/practitioners are solitary monks living in caves is not for you!

fair enough

Very nice 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💎💎💎🪷

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At 2:19 you mention ancestor speak. Then at 12:23 you mention ancestor memories. At 18:09 you refer to an inner ancestor experience. Could you do a video on this topic? Over the last couple of years I've felt a sort of profound connection at times to a great uncle I barely knew. It's an experience that I can't really put into words. It's almost as if he's somehow trying to guide me in some way, but even that's not descriptive of the experience. I thought this was just some sort of random mind game, but after watching this, it must be something others go through as well. Would love to hear more about this.

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Z! I love you❤ we need to chat soon! Frankie boy in nyc🙏🏽😇

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