Zero SR Electric Motorbike First Ride Review

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7 жыл бұрын

We all know it's coming. Is it time to go Electric, we find out on the Zero SR.

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@barclayholmes5982
@barclayholmes5982 5 жыл бұрын
I am a 58 year old motor head (from the rich/broke Country of California) and it took me a bit to adjust to electric as well. Pretty much when the horse power to weight ratio became attractive. That has always been a driving force in my life. Quiet has its advantages as well as buckets of torque from a stand still. Cops don't seem to notice me nearly as much. I have not yet adjusted to watching people drive on the left side of the road yet, you were freaking me out with that. More and more I am appreciating not putting out exhaust fumes, I love the mountains and clean air. Zero seems a bit pricey but they are doing a great job performance wise. I think they justify the price tag, to some extent, by the high price of gas powered bikes. As battery technology continues to advance, we should see the cost drop and/or range increase as batteries are a huge factor. The cost of gas will continue to rise. The range indicators really just show you how much your riding style has changed and are sort of trivial to me. An active volt meter is the real fuel gage. Drive fast and take chances, Barclay.
@awo1fman
@awo1fman 7 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Zero SR, and the more I ride it the more I like it. It's everything from a smooth, easy cruiser to a brutally quick canyon carver. I don't have the range extender battery pack, but even though it's not light on paper it feels *MUCH* lighter than my Hyosung GT650, and is definitely *MUCH* easier to pick up if you drop it. It also doesn't have any bits sticking out to get damaged. Drop it and all you'll get is a scuffed bar end. This guy has an axe to grind and isn't honest about the riding experience. Case in point: he says how sure he is that he would beat that ICE bike to sixty and even does a burnout, but says nothing whatsoever about the actual ride other than to complain about how hooning reduces the range. Trust me, I these things are a blast to ride and well worth the price of admission, especially since there's no maintenance to speak of. No oil or oil filters, no air filters, no constant checking for bolts being loosened by vibration, no spark plugs, none of that stuff. Just plug it in - at home; you can't refuel your ICE bike there - and clean it now and then. Never have to make a special trip or detour from other trips to get gas. If you're commuting, go directly to work or home, and never stop for fuel. Plug it in at home or work and it's full and ready to go when you are, and it costs a fraction of filling your tank with fuel. In the long run, electric will be much cheaper than any comparable ICE vehicle, and it will last a lot longer and spend a lot less time in the shop. Don't underestimate electric. If you haven't given it an honest go, you really don't have a right to an opinion about it. I will say one thing, though: I wouldn't waste my time with an S or DS. They're about as quick as an SR or DSR at about 60% in custom mode. They're still fun, but it's night and day different.
@df3yt
@df3yt 7 жыл бұрын
Mark Haury Reduce the recharge time and I'm game. Spending that amount of money purely to work and back is a bit rich for me. Please let me know that max range you have got
@awo1fman
@awo1fman 7 жыл бұрын
df3yt Most people could ride to work and back all week on a Zero. I usually don't charge every night unless it's already low (you shouldn't leave it less than 30% very long) or am doing a long ride the next day. 160 km is no problem in one go. Australia is seriously lagging the rest of the world in public charging infrastructure, so it will be a while before I try actual travel with it.
@df3yt
@df3yt 7 жыл бұрын
Mark Haury Thanks for the insight. Like I said i love the reliability they offer in aircraft or ground use.
@cscheatum
@cscheatum 7 жыл бұрын
Mark Haury I'll be getting one soon. These are the future petrol is a thing of the past.
@APsupportsTerrorism
@APsupportsTerrorism 6 жыл бұрын
Charging on these shouldn't be an issue. The batteries are like 1/4th capacity of car EVs... goes a long way to eliminate the headache of car EV charging. That's why im interested in this. Looks like you can either install the L2 charger that will run it up in ~30min or at home use 1-4 of the 120VAC add-ons which reduce charge time of 8hrs from outlet to ~2hrs. The reviewer is a bit wrong when he says it'll take 8hrs for 100%; Zero gave 30min time to 95% for the L2 charger because you should rarely/never charge to 100%. That goes for every EV. Charge 90-95% and the battery will stay healthy for a long time.
@Tyler3209
@Tyler3209 7 жыл бұрын
He didn't mention the fact that there are almost no maintenance costs. All you need is tires, breaks, and a belt once in a while. No oil, few moving parts, and estimated 350,000 miles or so until 80% range.
@siraff4461
@siraff4461 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. How many people will ride it far enough to make that work compared to the average £5k ice bike?
@Tyler3209
@Tyler3209 7 жыл бұрын
Si Raff this bike is not in the same class as a 5k ice bike. It is more comparable to a 7-10k ice bike. If you ride as your daily commuter then it will easily pay for itself. Not worth it for weekend warriors though.
@siraff4461
@siraff4461 7 жыл бұрын
In what way is it in the class of 7-10k ice's? It's sub 70hp and heavy. It would be a close thing even with something like a CB500 - pretty much the kind of bike it's going against. Then there's the mythical savings. Motorcycle.com got 90 miles from their 15.3kWh bike (effectively an £18k bike here in the UK). Let's say 100 miles for 15kWh to be nice. UK average is 14p/kWh which means that 100 miles cost £2.10 of electricity. Unleaded is around £1.15/l at the moment, giving £5.20 per gallon. Quite a difference and most bikes of that kind will only do around 50mpg realistically (far more if you're trying but who buys a bike fo that?) That means it's around £10 for the same mileage. £8 per 100 miles is a big difference. Well at least until you realise that there's £8k - £13k difference in cost. That's 100,000 miles to break even with a £10k bike or 162,500 to break even with a £5k bike. Easily pay for itself? Maybe if you were using it as a long distance courier for 5 years but even then it would be range limited and not fit for the job in the first place. Can't justify this thing on costs by any reasonable measure. I might get one anyway though because it's just cool - surely that's more a key point when buying a bike than if it costs more or we would all be on 125's?
@Tyler3209
@Tyler3209 7 жыл бұрын
Si Raff fuel isn't the savings cost I'm actually talking about. Fuel only would take 100,000+ miles to break even but you also can subtract the price of buying oil, oil filters, chain lube, clutches, and most other regular maintenance. Not even including the fact that your employer is going to pay your electricity bill when you plug in at work. And then factor in that the life expectancy is easily over double of any ice bike. Let's say you do 20k miles a year because it's your daily driver. That's 10 oil changes which is 20 bucks each give or take plus a few minutes of your life. So 200 extra dollars a year in things that are required. If you drop a car and ride this instead of a 5k bike then you can make it up in a few years plus it will last an extra 5-10 years after you've broken even on value. But only if you're putting on like 20k a year. Also, a 500cc bike isn't really capable of sustaining 70-80mph on the highway. This electric motorcycle is for the couple miles the battery will last.
@siraff4461
@siraff4461 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah that couple hundred a year realy adds up when we're talkin about £8k difference. lol After 5 years that would make it £7k difference. Or £12k. I'm also struggling to think of any 500cc+ bike from the last 20 years which would struggle to hold 70-80mph. Honestly at the price you aren't going to break even unless you're one of the very few people who'c commute is just inside it's max range each way an youalways use it for everything else aswell. Kind of hard to imagine someone with £18k to spend would not also have a car or at least other bikes. Have a look at bikes for sale and it's pretty obvious how rare that kind of mileage is.
@TheDervMan
@TheDervMan 7 жыл бұрын
Electric bikes can't come soon enough for me. Great video.
@davidcoro27
@davidcoro27 6 жыл бұрын
Great comments. Really appreciate your video. Pricing is OTT. Hopefully more competitive entrants with higher volumes will bring economies of scale and sense able prices? Zero has to work on their styling. Thank you.
@bmartin863
@bmartin863 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine a hybrid. Gas / battery assisted take offffffff. Battery assisted during the time of low RPM until gas motor achieves optimum RPM to produce max HP. The future is battery assisted motors hybridization with gas . I could see it being dangerously fast and evil as hell.
@MegaNayton
@MegaNayton 6 жыл бұрын
Thats not bad really 2 and half hours for 95% aint bad when you think that he had 140 miles on full charge i believe he said if anything the 2 and half hours is a get you out the shit type of thing where if your not to far away from where you are going but wont make it with whats left in the battery pull up walk away for an hour and youll be good to go. I guess its more of a round town commuter in the fact that you'd just charge it up over night. For built up cites it would be perfect as you'd probably get most of the power back in regen
@thorstambaugh1520
@thorstambaugh1520 5 жыл бұрын
Hybrids are useless. Worst of both worlds. You cant fit 2 different motors on a bike and expect any performance whatsoever
@devilsoffspring5519
@devilsoffspring5519 5 жыл бұрын
@Jesse Mitchell I'm in my 40s too and think electric vehicles are clean and energy efficient, and it's a delightful bonus that they're silent. The physical bike itself is just another consumer product like a TV set or microwave oven. The cool part is the thinking behind it, and electric vehicles certainly have a lot going for them--that's why companies are going through with the effort to develop them, despite current battery tech not being quite energy-dense enough for motorbikes yet.
@KillroyX99
@KillroyX99 7 жыл бұрын
I have a 2015 ZERO SR and I love it. All the normal questions and answers. 1. I get 130 miles of range going "extra-legal" speeds in the Santa Cruz Mountains. 2. I charge fully in less than a hour with a aftermarket DigiNow fast chargers using a standard j-plug at a public charge station. 3. It goes over 100 MPH and accelerates off the line with no clutch or transition faster than most sport bikes. 4. Being quiet is not dangerous. I ride and commute every day. You will not get as many tickets or dirty looks. 5. The throttle response is better than any gas bike and you can tune it with the app.
@manoharchandrashekar2085
@manoharchandrashekar2085 6 жыл бұрын
price Man we can buy small car elc
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 6 жыл бұрын
Fuel storage is still big, heavy, cumbersome, and expensive slabs of battery where most of the weight only inhibits every metric of performance. Also highly risking bursting into flames. Gas bike's fuel storage is about 90%+ energy potential by weight, the rest is a lightweight hollow cavity with a fuel pump in it. Even with less than 50% energy converted to propulsion, it's still more powerful, still fills in 1 minute, and still costs far less to purchase, and still is available in far flung places around the earth. There's also zero potential it will burst into flames unless converted to gaseous vapors first.
@thorstambaugh1520
@thorstambaugh1520 6 жыл бұрын
# of Gas bikes burining in 2017 100s # of Electric bikes burning in 2017 0 Dont confuse the electric bikes with advanced tech batteries with the cheap lithium ion chinese made ones for scooters, vapes, and phones
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 6 жыл бұрын
# of people inventing statistics in 2017: too many.
@thorstambaugh1520
@thorstambaugh1520 6 жыл бұрын
lol
@andrereynolds2025
@andrereynolds2025 6 жыл бұрын
I actually got pulled over by a police officer riding a zero, didn't hear him coming. This got me extremely interested in these bikes.
@spacep0d
@spacep0d 5 жыл бұрын
Which is the same reason that drivers will dart in front of nearly-silent bikes. I understand that everything is going EV (I own a LEAF now), but on a bike I'd be far more worried in a lane-splitting state like CA. People hear me coming and they react (moving out of the way). If I could be on an EV I'd be glad to do that....but man I do worry about people darting in to me because people who pass DMV vision tests like to say 'I didn't see him, officer' when they cut us off. But, as EVs get more popular and driver aids make their way into the mainstream, maybe fewer dumbasses will be 'allowed' to kill us as their Teslas, LEAFs, etc. intervene on their behalf (and ours, as riders). Things, they are a-changin'. I welcome that change, but I have a feeling that lane-splitting is gonna be scary AF on a 30 mile commute to Hollywood on a nearly silent E-bike.
@melenriquez8985
@melenriquez8985 7 жыл бұрын
I am an oldie. Approaching 60 in a couple of years. I have a 1.5 year old 1,500 watt 84-volt honda zoomer-x like e-MC. Before that I had a 9 month old vespa type e-MC/scooter. Been ebiking for 2.4 years or so. My ebike is simple and not high powered. It's not as fancy or costly as a Zero. Got it for about U$800 used for 3 months only, and got some lithium batts now to total the cost to U$2,000. The batts should last me 5 or more years and not worry like using those lead acid batteries. It expensive on the onset but it will be cheaper in the long run with less headaches and maintenance. The U$2,000 is what I would have paid for a gasoline Honda Zoomer-X plus a little modifications in our country. My maintenance cost per year plus gasoline probably will set me back around U$500-600. With the electric MC, I only pay around U$40 a year. Only mechanical parts usually need servicing or replacing. No change oils, filters, adjustment of timing belts, mo parts to become loose or needs adjustments periodically, no parts to wear off except the tires, brake pads, and maybe the axle bearing. No massive heat build up. U$500-600 may not be much in the USA, but it is a lot in our country. But the biggest shock is the cost of paying the electric company only U$40 or less for powering this for one year (at about 10,000km plus mileage). And yes, we charge at home. With the 25aH and 15ah sets. I can go 110-130km range with these 2. I usually just use around 25-40km per day, sometimes less. And it takes maybe 2 hours to 4 hours to charge with such short usage. I just leave it at night to charge, or just plug it in whenever I want to even for a 1 hour charge. Even if I don't charge it, I can go 3-4 days with this uncharge. But I charge them when the bike is idle just to be able to cover any contingencies. It's not doing anything anyway, so just plug it in! Electric bikes may not be for many oldies. It is for the next generation. They are more in numbers and they know that power/torque and speed can be had in relative silence or low noise/sound. Maintenance is cheaper too. When we are all gone, few of the next generation will know of combustion engine motorcycle. And cars. And trucks, Practically almost any vehicle on the ground (maybe even in water or even in the air). It's hard to teach old dogs new tricks. That is why I went full steam ahead with this. My body may be old, but my heart is young. Even more, it's just plain common sense and practical. IF ones ego or bias can't be swayed, then the pocket (savings) and ease of maintenance (literally 1-5% effort) is the deciding factor for me.
@icefang2550
@icefang2550 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice. I'm a newbie to bikes, I hope to get an ebike soon.
@pravinbhaipatel8008
@pravinbhaipatel8008 6 жыл бұрын
I have adilevare in India castam inquled prices
@YarikSychov
@YarikSychov 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment. I fully agree with you. All the best!
@gabrielmessam2374
@gabrielmessam2374 4 жыл бұрын
Zoomer for the boomer
@nicksokolis6343
@nicksokolis6343 7 жыл бұрын
It is electric, not electronic. Great review btw.
@BikeWorldTVshow
@BikeWorldTVshow 7 жыл бұрын
It might be hydromatic!
@AndroidAppGuy
@AndroidAppGuy 7 жыл бұрын
Hydromatic? It's Greased Lightning! (john travolta reference...)
@motokrack
@motokrack 7 жыл бұрын
lol
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 7 жыл бұрын
0:10 Also Most Prius is not an EV. Only a tiny fraction are the Plug In Hybrids. Majority of Prius are entirely dependant on Petrol.
@DiscoFang
@DiscoFang 7 жыл бұрын
Yes!! Unbelievable how many of the EV reviewers get tongue tied (brain-tied?) over this. What's funny in this instance is the reviewer corrected himself as his mouth actually started to say electric! The one time in the video he called it Electric was when he referred to it's intergration with an App. Haha the one time electronic would have been an accurate enough synonym. Please, tho', overall fantastic review.
@svenomick5857
@svenomick5857 7 жыл бұрын
great review. these bike are only going to get better and better.
@CodeZombie
@CodeZombie 7 жыл бұрын
Believe me, in the last five years alone they really have...!
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 6 жыл бұрын
Gasoline powered technology keeps getting better and better. If we only look at electric we'll fail to see the comparative ratio which is roughly the same as it was in the 1930's. Same manufacturing cost ratios, same purchase cost ratios, same time to recharge ratios, same comparative travel range ratios. Just getting better and better? Another 85 years it could be a little better.
@thorstambaugh1520
@thorstambaugh1520 6 жыл бұрын
Wow you must be in a different world. Gas engines are limited in efficiency due to massive loss via heat and mechanical transfer. Electrics are more than double the efficiency and the technology is progressing in leaps and bounds. Batteries and motors are good for well over 300000 miles, a figure few gas motors could even pray for without massive repair. A one hour charge time compares favorably to a overnight trickle charge in the 30s for and old lead acid battery holding 1/40 the power of these. If gas technology was perfect it would still be 1/2 as efficient as electric.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 6 жыл бұрын
Your world is a cult-driven world that doesn't care about facts. Batteries are your nemesis and they are garbage compared to liquid fuel.
@diemman70
@diemman70 7 жыл бұрын
I've got 6000 miles on mine and I've loved every mile of my nasty commute especially blowing past the 100,000$ Porsches stuck in traffic. Live free or die!
@stans5270
@stans5270 5 жыл бұрын
A Schwinn would do the same.
@brianaustin2104
@brianaustin2104 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a used 2018 Zero SR two months ago. I love it. For the last 30 years, after every ICE car or bike I purchased, I created a maintenance plan. Not with this bike. I am not missing the five whole systems from an ICE: gas, air, spark, exhaust, and coolant. This Zero differs from a electric car in that it can be charged via a 110 volt wall outlet. Therefore, most every house (and your friend's house) already have charging capability for your bike. Same goes with my work - they don't have a 220 Volt car charger, but they do have a 110 volt outlet, and let me charge at work. I was choosing between a electric car or bike, and I'm glad I started with a bike. I plan to get a car in two years. You need to change a little, and think out your charging plan every two to three days, but you soon find yourself getting on the bike and loving the silence. Petrol engines are CO2 pumps. Now that there are 2 billion cars on the road, that is a lot of CO2. Yes, the bike is pricey, but I want this company to succeed, so that's where I'll put my money.
@ch47av8r
@ch47av8r 4 жыл бұрын
Having ridden this bike at the factory a few years ago, I rode away on my BMW R1200RT more than impressed with the Zero SR. Yes it took a little getting used to, maybe the first few miles with looking for a clutch handle. What is most impressive is the seamless delivery of power when applying 'throttle' via the twist grip. A novice to motorcycles could safely ride this bike which will hopefully provide new riders to the world of motorcycle riding. Once dry cell lithium batteries become viable, legacy electric bikes can then be readily upgraded with a drop-in battery upgrade to solve any range anxiety and early adapters will have enjoyed years of a maintenance free motorcycle by this time. I've replaced my gas powered hedge trimmer, lawn mower, weed whacker, leaf blower, and BMW car with an electric replacement. The motorcycle is next - only a matter of time once the battery density challenges have been solved and that day is fast approaching.
@fredecks4641
@fredecks4641 7 жыл бұрын
I owned a 2013 Zero FX for awhile, and sold it to buy a Yamaha Super Tenere 1200 (I wanted to tour Mexico by motorbike). I've been missing the Zero FX ever since, and may buy another. It pulled harder than my 1200 does. And that's just the FX; the SR is much stronger and faster. Electric bikes are super fun!!!
@mikeclancy4881
@mikeclancy4881 6 жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot of reviews on this bike. This is hands down the best one. Thanks.
@BikeWorldTVshow
@BikeWorldTVshow 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike
@Hirotoro4692
@Hirotoro4692 6 жыл бұрын
mike clancy missenden flyer did a better review
@brewedawakening6577
@brewedawakening6577 6 жыл бұрын
An electric motorcycle pulled up to a gas station : Gas attendant " Fill 'er up? Rider: "No, tanks"
@jonesjao5441
@jonesjao5441 6 жыл бұрын
Mack Cullete youean No tanks
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 6 жыл бұрын
You've got tanks. Big, heavy, cumbersome, expensive tanks that fill with tons of electrons which weight virtually nothing. And when those tanks are empty, they are still big, heavy, cumbersome, and expensive. But don't worry, over time those tanks lose capacity to fill. So they are still big, heavy, cumbersome, and expensive and even less effective the more you use them.
@thorstambaugh1520
@thorstambaugh1520 6 жыл бұрын
Almost as big ,heavy and cumbersome as a huge inefficient engine. And considering the life of the batteries and motor is well over 300000 miles they will still be going while your big cumbersome motor will be rusting
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 6 жыл бұрын
Even with your efficient motors, you still can't stretch a battery to come anywhere near the power, range, and ease of fillup of a gas engine. Gas engines keep getting better and better. Batteries will need to make a monumental improvement just to keep gas engines in sight on the horizon.
@thorstambaugh1520
@thorstambaugh1520 5 жыл бұрын
A gas motorcycle pulled up to a charging station. BOOM!
@ChrisTian-lf2oh
@ChrisTian-lf2oh 7 жыл бұрын
Good and honest review. Whether we like it or not, electric bikes are here to stay, . A bit more styling and some time to accept electric vehicles, Ill prolly own one. Also, you got another subscriber. Cheers from Sweden
@baqcasanke
@baqcasanke 6 жыл бұрын
Christian Andersson agreed. I think these look like cheap shit. I wish they looked better... and were 1/3 the cost
@christianweller4288
@christianweller4288 7 жыл бұрын
Factor in the the low servicing costs (tyres, brake pads and new belt at 40k km)... I'd say it's close to doable.. Stick some PV on the roof and fuel is almost free... For those people saying the power is generated by coal anyway... ever thought about how much electricity is used to make petrol? Nope didn't think so.
@joevidya
@joevidya 7 жыл бұрын
This bike he's reviewing is $16k, you're not going to see a dime in savings before this thing starts to have serious maintenance issues.
@sneekylinux
@sneekylinux 7 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a time back in the day when my dad said "those Japanese bikes are rubbish, they will never take off" with me on my Suzuki GT250 X7, funny how history repeats itself....nuff said.
@danmurphy1994
@danmurphy1994 7 жыл бұрын
'Which is basically witchcraft' Lmao
@jbviajero
@jbviajero 7 жыл бұрын
Funny comment but not true. The reviewer doesn't know how range estimation works. They use your current consumption to estimate range. So, my stupidly thirsty V8 can 'regenerate' double the range if I stop getting into it around the city and start cruising on the highways. I'm surprised a journalist has confused regeneration with current-average range estimation software. That's what go me LMAO.
@danmurphy1994
@danmurphy1994 7 жыл бұрын
Justin Buckland I noticed that as well. Most people are starting to catch onto EV's 'smart' range calculators. Just a couple years ago established journalists with sections of magazines to themselves were reacting to EV range performance just like this but now many have caught on. Not everyone though, clearly. On the electric motorcycle front I will say that there haven't been too many popular models yet so hopefully with more to come, people will appreciate the range calculators more all encompassing approach to yielding results and have some mechanical sympathy? No..Electrical sympathy after considering all factors in regards to the range they're getting. One must realize that flogging a petrol engine is going to decrease fuel economy yes but it won't have the same detrimental effect as doing just that to an electric motor where cooling advances haven't been made to the level they have with internal combustion thus creating this choice EV motorists have: Go fast? Or Go far?
@islaws4589
@islaws4589 7 жыл бұрын
Dan Murphy You're bang on with the range estimation but they do regenerate off throttle - regen braking. In urban driving my Nissan Leaf will get 25% of its range from the regen braking. I enjoyed the review but not being a biker (have license but never had the pleasure of owning one!) noticed he was coming at it differently than I expected. What I've noticed with the Leaf is that it isn't a car in the petrol/diesel sense. You have to relearn a few habits to get the best out of it, but once you do you're pretty much evangelical. I'd be interested to see the results of a long term test to see if the same is true of bike/biker. The charge time sounded disappointing - worse than a Leaf from a 3 pin socket. Have read somewhere though that the Zero batteries have an amazing lifespan so that could be why!
@thorstambaugh1520
@thorstambaugh1520 5 жыл бұрын
EV range is simple. City driving is the longest, Cut it in half for highway. Wind resistance is the killer. Zero is actually pretty spot on for their estimates. The trouble with an electric is it is so hard not to crank that torque at every stop lol
@kignacio
@kignacio 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah range estimation by a computer is something that most don’t understand whether ICE or electric. Same people think eco mode will magically produce more miles of range vs sport. The battery capacity will give what you ask and nothing more.
@super73uk
@super73uk 5 жыл бұрын
What a great video - Full of info & very interesting to watch! We have an electric push bike (shown in thumbnail) but only get around 80 miles of range. Thank you very much.
@bernardomotard
@bernardomotard 7 жыл бұрын
a Prius isn't really an electronic car..
@KillroyX99
@KillroyX99 7 жыл бұрын
Its gasoline -hybrid electric. The Prius Prime or Plug-in can charge with electricity and drive around (in many cases) without burning gasoline at all. Its not a BEV, but its a PHEV or a HEV.
@gregripp
@gregripp 5 жыл бұрын
It's electric motor is electric, the battery management system (BMS) and motor controller is electronic. The ICE's control system is electronic along with many other systems such as brakes and transmission. Lots of electronics in vehicles today, but the primary movers (motors/generators) are electric. Hope this helps.
@drunkhydra83
@drunkhydra83 7 жыл бұрын
Dear zero, The specs on the bike are awesome. Now please make them look better. And a full fairing option would be nice too!
@ZKawasaki-ny9ju
@ZKawasaki-ny9ju 5 жыл бұрын
The future is amazing! Great video.
@philtripe
@philtripe 7 жыл бұрын
im getting one of these for my next bike...i use my bike mainly for around town small errands so the thought of never going to a gas station and just leaving my bike plugged in(i do now anyway) so it wouldnt cost me a dime more than it does now. im constantly charging my battery at 2 to 10 amps
@thorstambaugh1520
@thorstambaugh1520 5 жыл бұрын
If you get one you will find yourself actually riding for the sheer joy. They are that much fun
@faheemsaiyed8094
@faheemsaiyed8094 7 жыл бұрын
I think it looks bloody cool. Styling is amzing, simplistic.
@Jeff-NORCAL
@Jeff-NORCAL 6 жыл бұрын
Loved the smokey burnout
@AngelArm1110
@AngelArm1110 7 жыл бұрын
For having come from a petrol head this was a very fair review. Thanks for taking the time, and I particularly enjoyed that little witchcraft comment
@dukeinlondon
@dukeinlondon 7 жыл бұрын
I like the 'not sold on it but what is good is really good' tone of the review.
@dirkbruere
@dirkbruere 7 жыл бұрын
First up, within 5 years we will have Lithium-metal or Lithium-Sulphur batteries with 3x the range, or same range with 1/3 the price
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 6 жыл бұрын
Even when current gas engines convert less than 50% gas energy potential into propulsion, it's still a ridiculously better means of storing fuel energy per weight, than a big, heavy, cumbersome, and expensive hunk of battery (no matter what it's made out of) with terrible energy density, regardless of electric motors being 97% efficient or whatever they are. Where on a gas bike, the space inside a thin-wall metal tank is 100% used by liquid fuel with high density energy, the space inside the confines of a battery is mostly wasted by performance-sapping material. Whereas a gas bike can fill and empty that entire space quickly, not so with a battery bike. Open the battery lid, stick the electric nozzle in, and fill it up with electrons in 1 minute? Not really. All this stupid nonsense about reducing carbon footprints? Just about everything in the universe is packed with carbon, even other planets.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 5 жыл бұрын
@Rebecca Whitson "One might really begin to wonder if perhaps there is a deliberate corporate initiated (and/or government supported) effort to limit such tech from making it to the market...." I've looked into the technological discoveries of former Stanley Meyer, a Christian inventor who developed a hydrogen generator which converted everyday tap water into hydrogen gas at the volumes necessary to feed a standard ICE. Today all hydrogen tech focuses on converting H2O to electrical energy, storing it and using it from batteries in a standard e-power vehicle, which I think is needlessly complicated and bulky. You're right about inventions and discoveries (mostly by brilliant unaccredited garage tinkerers) being forcefully canned and destroyed, prevented from ever being implemented in the mainstream. COULD be that such is going on in the battery/storage realm of research, I'm not sure. I do know that electric vehicles were considered along side Henry Ford's ICE powered vehicle as early as the proposal for the Model T. It's nothing new. I've also researched the role the common energy power plants play in generating global weather. You'll never ever see a common power plant of any remarkable size shut down because of it.
@KillroyX99
@KillroyX99 7 жыл бұрын
"Ignore the Power" Power should never be ignored, because the transmission and the wheels and sprockets multiply torque. Power is all about quantity. Torque is about quality.
@KillroyX99
@KillroyX99 7 жыл бұрын
That being said, EVs are faster with the same amount of power rating because of the minimal amount of rotating mass, clutch, gears and good 'quality' off the line.
@glenr834
@glenr834 5 жыл бұрын
Two things, the range increasing from riding is just because the last known riding style calculated that it had 130odd miles left, and you rode in less aggressively than it’s estimations. You cannot gain energy whilst using it like that, unless you started at the top of a rather large hill and finished at the bottom without going back up, and also related to this I’d imagine that the 74 miles was also calculated from your aggressive riding, and I’m sure it would increase if you drove it carefully so you had possibly 80-100 miles lect
@simonmerrin3652
@simonmerrin3652 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video and very informative. I'm old school with my bikes, but I can see the virtues and future of electric bikes and cars. I would def have the bike .
@deputydd4364
@deputydd4364 7 жыл бұрын
I've had a go in a Tesla S and Chinese electric scooters. I just like big acceleration or two wheels - the powerplant is secondary. I wouldn't buy one of these in 2017 but the next generation ones could be awesome. Also, it's guys like the old guys in the video that mean we don't yet have hoverbikes, they fear anything new and stifle progress!
@ega0117
@ega0117 7 жыл бұрын
With all due respect California does not have pots and pots of cash that state is almost broke
@himynameistaylor
@himynameistaylor 6 жыл бұрын
I think he meant cash in start of companies? I dunno
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 6 жыл бұрын
$21,178,203,000,000 US national debt (at the time of my post) might be a better number to look at.
@MrZrryan2
@MrZrryan2 5 жыл бұрын
Just because a STATE GOVERNMENT has a rather hefty debt (and continues to run a deficit), this does NOT necessarily mean that the state is not absolutely flush with cash/tech/investment... think bigger picture. Debt and deficit aside, California is very rich in cash/tech/investment. THAT being said, it's a bloody shame the Liberals are f'ing up the place.
@golnectr
@golnectr 5 жыл бұрын
Those libs and all those other coastal lib states are generating the funds to carry all those conservative central states. It's not like California gained it's 6th largest economy in the world status with neoconservative idealism. California has always been the liberal Petrie dish state and it happens here first. How can the libs be ruining it when we've always been the most liberal state in the republic? Check the Whitehouse to see what's really going to ruin things. It sure as shit isn't electric vehicles and protecting the environment.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 5 жыл бұрын
Clean up all the breathing air, but fill the same air with the latest electric EMF/EMR pollution and get cancer anyway.
@FredlocksAsher2012
@FredlocksAsher2012 6 жыл бұрын
nice review bro! love your style, awesome work
@LieutenantBonk
@LieutenantBonk 6 жыл бұрын
Well done. Thank you for the honest review.
@VeeFour
@VeeFour 7 жыл бұрын
how Much!? I'll be interested once they're mainstream enough to have a sensible price tag. However, if the future is electric then I'd rather ride an electric bike than no bike
@joem527
@joem527 7 жыл бұрын
VeeFour unfortunately the price is pretty high but if you're in to fast bikes the ls218 is the fastest bike in the world and it's electric it's even more expensive than the zero but it cost about the same as top of the line sport bikes and again it's the fastest bike in the world
@ml2799
@ml2799 7 жыл бұрын
Hi John, another excellent review, I saw one of these at the NEC and balked at the price, as with all this technology its priced beyond the common man, at half the price you'd think twice. Do the maths: spend half as much on a very respectable motorcycle and (for the average rider), how many miles could you travel on £8k's worth of fuel! I respect the technology but...
@gasdive
@gasdive 7 жыл бұрын
Mark Lincoln People buy the six cylinder BMW 1600GTL because it's smooth, but they're like a farm implement compared to a Zero, but a Zero is much cheaper.
@robertp457
@robertp457 7 жыл бұрын
A Zero is not that advanced of a motorcycle especially compared to a K1600.
@awo1fman
@awo1fman 7 жыл бұрын
Mark Lincoln If you actually did the maths, you would find that it won't take long for your "cheaper" ICE bike to get more expensive than the electric, and those costs will only go up as the bike ages and parts wear out. With electric you pay up front, but running and maintenance costs are very low, and can be very close to zero if you have your own solar or wind power. ICE vehicles are like computer printers: it's not the printer that is the major cost, it's consumables (ink or toner and paper). So do yourself a favor and do *realistic* maths, not deliberately unrealistic ones.
@gasdive
@gasdive 7 жыл бұрын
Derek Jonez Try riding them both. Really, I'm not kidding, the BMW is a farm implement in comparison. You haven't experienced seamless torque until you've ridden one. Reviewers talk about bikes feeling "electric", but there's nothing in the petrol world that compares.
@thorstambaugh1520
@thorstambaugh1520 5 жыл бұрын
How many bikes do you need to buy or rebuild to go 300000 miles?
@bmanagement4657
@bmanagement4657 7 жыл бұрын
had my zero s since 2015. love it. just need a level 2 charger with a quick charge pack. not great for apartment living though unless you have easy safe access to a plug. i definitely need a garage after going 6 months without.
@raymondbrower7894
@raymondbrower7894 5 жыл бұрын
Jeff Shoemaker depending on the apartment. Some will let you bring it inside (like a bicycle) because there's no oil or gas. My garden apartment has it's own entrance and I keep it inside.
@BrianFrichette
@BrianFrichette 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to have your take on the SR/F. Seems much more refined from a distance.
@AJTalks
@AJTalks 7 жыл бұрын
Where are the god damn fairings? Zero themselves said that it would increase range from 20-30%. Why would they not add them?
@awo1fman
@awo1fman 7 жыл бұрын
Alex Johnson Because these days the trend is everybody *removing* the fairings from their bikes. Not to mention all the other stupid things they are doing to their bikes. Ugly is in, I guess. But you can at least get a decent windshield for a Zero.
@Lecruque
@Lecruque 7 жыл бұрын
For my daily highway commute this thing isn't an option without fairings. Hope they bring out an adventure or Touring model soon! (driving a 1200gs adventure now)
@donandnanelmore8278
@donandnanelmore8278 7 жыл бұрын
They have a moto version and a dual sport version. Check out the KZfaq of the Zero in a dirt bike race.
@ableac
@ableac 7 жыл бұрын
Zero are aiming at the wrong market, sports bike riders like noise and ripping up and down the gears. Commuter riders and touring bike riders don't tend to fit loud exhausts and are used to bikes that weigh more than sports bikes. My Nissan Leaf can charge up on a rapid charger in a fraction of the time this bike takes. Until they bring out a touring version with the ability to use rapid chargers, I won't be visiting a Zero showroom.
@awo1fman
@awo1fman 7 жыл бұрын
Alex Johnson Since every one of your assertions is wrong, I'm not going to bother debunking them point by point. I will, however, point out that you've contradicted yourself and basically said that Zero's target customer is exactly who they are going to get. In other words, they're doing it exactly right. Also, since you obviously aren't on the market for an electric bike of any kind, your opinion is irrelevant. If you haven't personally ridden one - with an open mind - you don't have a right to an opinion. In fact, no one ever has a right to a biased and uninformed opinion.
@dkaloupis75
@dkaloupis75 5 жыл бұрын
You must be insane spending 20.000 GBP for that thing....no f@cking way. Drop it down by 7000 and maybe then will consider it...
@ProfitSlim
@ProfitSlim 5 жыл бұрын
You can always purchase one used. 2014 models are going for $6-7000
@kloppskalli
@kloppskalli 7 жыл бұрын
thank u very much, this was so much more informative than l expected and it even was a lil bit funny at the end 😉
@halofour01
@halofour01 6 жыл бұрын
I got to ride one of these and I was deeply impressed. It felt almost as quick as my B-King and the silence was cool.
@troy9er
@troy9er 7 жыл бұрын
I fly all electric RC airplanes and helicopters. They are more powerful and faster than gas engine planes. I don't know how I'd feel about an electric motorcycle but I know I prefer electric RC planes by a Hugh margin!!!
@rpgfightin4ever
@rpgfightin4ever 7 жыл бұрын
Lithium-ion is a fire of 21st century
@timus1111
@timus1111 7 жыл бұрын
Two things gave me an electric shock ... Torque figure and it's PRICE !
@mrjamesnone8071
@mrjamesnone8071 4 жыл бұрын
how much was the price
@nbibby
@nbibby 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks good review, impartial and informative 👍
@silverstar4289
@silverstar4289 4 жыл бұрын
Good review love the retro helmet.
@hammerhome7879
@hammerhome7879 6 жыл бұрын
At $10 a gallon , I can't see why anyone would not see the point...
@stans5270
@stans5270 5 жыл бұрын
Gas is @ $2.45 a gallon. It takes 5 minutes to refuel and be on your way. What's your point?
@EnforcedCrowd
@EnforcedCrowd 5 жыл бұрын
It's $1.80 a gallon where I live now LOL
@romanval69
@romanval69 5 жыл бұрын
@@stans5270 Pretty sure he's talking about UK/EU gas prices where it's equal to around $7/gal USD
@spacep0d
@spacep0d 5 жыл бұрын
@@EnforcedCrowd *now ;) CA gas is reasonable now, but I don't think it'll remain reasonable for long. It hit nearly $5 a gallon for a while there.
@zmz305
@zmz305 7 жыл бұрын
This is a cool bike. The only problem is for that price, I can buy a 1000cc supersport which is much cooler.
@CuriousSeeker09
@CuriousSeeker09 7 жыл бұрын
Its much cooler Yes, but do take the cost of petrol/gas price and the periodic maintenance that a IC engine bike requires into account. Also do a small calculation of price of electricity and look for a term of around 5 Years of your commute you will get your answer.
@zmz305
@zmz305 7 жыл бұрын
The total cost of 5 years may differ a lot, but if you divide it into per month, it probably is not a number you would care a lot :). But of course, it is distance dependent. In my case, I drive around 150 miles per month. Moreover, I think people who spend so much money into adult toys would not care about that amount of cost, but care more about how cool the toys are. The performance for this one is enough to have fun, but for the same price, it would be great if they could make this into a much better looking bike. For now it looks like a $5000 bike.
@CuriousSeeker09
@CuriousSeeker09 7 жыл бұрын
Yes i agree, this is an overpriced bike, and the design doesn't do justice to the price charged.
@donandnanelmore8278
@donandnanelmore8278 7 жыл бұрын
I think new technology always costs more. As the technology standardizes and numbers sold ramps up, I think prices will drop. Remember, Tesla is supposed to come out with a $35K sedan soon.
@zmz305
@zmz305 7 жыл бұрын
Dabendra Singh Model s has 100k worth performance, the technology it has worth way more than some super cars. Model 3 also has 35k worth of performance and way more technology than other 35k cars in the market. And they both look amazing. But this bike I just don't feel it worth 15k in anyway.
@supersnot4
@supersnot4 6 жыл бұрын
I test rode a DS and an SR a few months ago. I quickly decided I will own a DSR by the end of this year.
@MrStevg8
@MrStevg8 7 жыл бұрын
wonder what the fuel\charging cost would come to over a year versus petrol for the same miles?
@quigonjay9
@quigonjay9 7 жыл бұрын
It's the same story as electric cars - until technology is such that these cars and bikes are about half the price they are now, they are still out of reach for your average Joe
@gasdive
@gasdive 7 жыл бұрын
quigonjay9 It's the same or less than a lot of other bikes. This is their top of the range. Top of the range BMW is close to twice this price. Top of the range Ducati is over twice. Top Honda is more than 5 times as much as this bike.
@HockeyVictory66
@HockeyVictory66 7 жыл бұрын
quigonjay9 really! This bike is about 18k. The most expensive Honda bike fully loaded is about $30k. Not sure where you are getting your numbers from.
@joem527
@joem527 7 жыл бұрын
quigonjay9 this company can go two ways in the future they can be the pioneers of affordable electric motorcycles or pull something like Ducati and create a new type of motorcycles and as technology for this particular type of stuff gets better they will dich the affordable thing and have 20k 15k bikes
@joem527
@joem527 7 жыл бұрын
I just realized the base price for that bike is already 15k. sorry about that.
@gasdive
@gasdive 7 жыл бұрын
Brett Vogel I just looked up the price of the most expensive Honda road bike. It's 137000 pounds. About 8 times more than a Zero with every option ticked.
@TheNature101
@TheNature101 5 жыл бұрын
Petrol bikes and cars are dinosaurs... good riddance...
@joem527
@joem527 7 жыл бұрын
when I first found out about these bikes I didn't even know something like this existed this was obviously before the craze for electric vehicles was as big as today. At the time I wasn't in to electric cars at all I thought they we're boring and had no character and I still think that but when I saw these bikes they instantly grabbed my attention they weren't obnoxious like most electric vehicles are they weren't painted in some insane color and above all they didn't bombard you with anything that said "eco friendly" or "zero emissions" closest thing to that was the brand name they had a simple design that looks great although slightly plain is pretty unique. At last I have found a electric vehicle with actual character and even though it is pretty expensive your still not dropping 100,000$ on a tesla p100D for the same or even more fun. So all I have to say now is this is one of the very best bikes I have ever seen and I'm thankful I found out about Zero Motorcycles.
@thorstambaugh1520
@thorstambaugh1520 5 жыл бұрын
Take a test ride and then you will really understand the appeal! lol
@Kraken54321
@Kraken54321 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, what electric motorbike would make a good learner bike?
@blipco5
@blipco5 7 жыл бұрын
Talk to me when they have a 400 mile range. Til then it's useless to me.
@lilsammywasapunkrock
@lilsammywasapunkrock 6 жыл бұрын
blipco5 normal bikes don't have 400 miles range. My 750 gets 100-150 miles on a 3 gallon tank depending on how I ride it.
@blipco5
@blipco5 6 жыл бұрын
Lilsammy.....That's true but it only takes five minutes to refuel a gas engine MC. It takes hours to charge an electric motorcycle.
@lilsammywasapunkrock
@lilsammywasapunkrock 6 жыл бұрын
blipco5 takes less then an hour for a 75% charge with the proper charger. Something like 92% of Americans drive less then a 100 miles round trip. It easily work work fine for anything except a crossed country drive. With a wall outlet, 95% in 4 hours. With lithium technology, the last 20% of the charge has to be done slowly to prevent an overvotage situation. The rest comes really quickly. As the power grid become more common, there will be less gas powered cars around.
@Hirotoro4692
@Hirotoro4692 6 жыл бұрын
Why does everyone at the bar at what their current bike does. Never slightly below the bar. Always the exact same. Nobody is willing to compromise.
@elpasao8780
@elpasao8780 6 жыл бұрын
Will Davis don’t worry, very soon they’ll have no choice.
@johnsonx2426
@johnsonx2426 7 жыл бұрын
So the future is for rich people only 😐
@spiritusinfinitus
@spiritusinfinitus 7 жыл бұрын
Nah, it's the same as any new technology. The early adopters pay for the development costs and if the technology works, economies of scale come into play and everyone gets cheaper products as a result. I remember when an entry level desktop computer that sounded like a jet taking off was £2k - and you can now pick up a basic Windows 10 laptop for £200.
@Osprey1994
@Osprey1994 7 жыл бұрын
You don't understand how the world works do you... The rich subsidize new tech until it can be sold in an affordable form. Mercedes Benz and Audi a great example of the trickle down effect. The top end vehicles will cost you an arm and a leg but over time the tech in those vehicles will make it's way down to the cheapest cars that they sell.
@placerdemaio
@placerdemaio 7 жыл бұрын
the price will drop like hell, it is because the battery, germany are doing their gigafactory to, so very soon will be ok.
@caseywiseman5286
@caseywiseman5286 7 жыл бұрын
Ali Bashir yep, u c now? always has been, why any different nw? I'm gonna burn gas n my cycle tell I cant, then think about selling something, getting another job and then loan to get an SR, not!!
@brians48now
@brians48now 7 жыл бұрын
People said the same thing about the big screen led tv when they first came out and look at the price now. You can get a 55 inch smart 4k these days for $500. They were close to $3000 not long ago. The smart phone I use cost just over $100. 5 years ago a phone with maybe 20% of the features was in the $600 range.
@NuraliKushkov
@NuraliKushkov 7 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you test ride and review another electric MC, evoke Urban S. Can't find anything on it just yet, but looks promising too, main competition to Zero imho. Cheers Nurali
@brit-in-czech
@brit-in-czech 5 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this.
@samdeur
@samdeur 7 жыл бұрын
Living in the Netherlands in a city I absolutely hate loud bikes standing across the street at a stoplight taking of and making a hell of a noise doing it. I always go up with my hand a point my pinky at them stating they are compensating for a small Pe...s Please do other humans a favor and just buy silent bikes wear headphones and blast your old bike sounds in your head without bothering the rest of the world with your sound pollution
@samdeur
@samdeur 7 жыл бұрын
Living in a city my ears thank you. I'm not a bike rider but these e-bikes are really appealing to me. They should have a special e-bike license no need to learn all that manual gear shifting I will never drive a regular bike anyway btw 41yr old
@darkswami
@darkswami 7 жыл бұрын
TuxKey THE reason for me to not repair my rusted through exhaust is the louder you are the better the chance of getting noticed by the blind drivers all around. Especially since the holes are in the FRONT part of the muffler. I am afraid that with an electric bike that really is a huge problem.
@samdeur
@samdeur 7 жыл бұрын
i have to admit after seeing a couple of episodes of moto madness on how stupid car drivers can be i somewhat understand the need to be loud. it's got me scared to even get a bike licence.
@yannikmeister
@yannikmeister 7 жыл бұрын
Why does everyone instantly think of compensating for something if you just do what you love. couldnt ride or drive an electric vehicle. its boring, nothing to work on, so few moving parts. its like a toy
@scrom29
@scrom29 7 жыл бұрын
No shifting, no character, no good sounds and charge times. Electric bikes rub me the wrong way.
@scrom29
@scrom29 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah 20 mins of fun and an 8 hour charge time is.
@scrom29
@scrom29 7 жыл бұрын
Yake N Bake They need to do something. People get aftermarket pipes so they can be heard. I'm just worried more riders will be hit by cagers who don't hear them.
@lennardspit
@lennardspit 7 жыл бұрын
Yake N Bake so your point is that even the loudest pipes don't make drivers notice you?
@CockatooDude
@CockatooDude 7 жыл бұрын
Well for you maybe, I love the fact that this thing is quiet. And it does make some noise, it's just not obnoxiously loud. Think about it, you can romp around at night being a hooligan and bother pretty much no one.
@Ander96Alex
@Ander96Alex 7 жыл бұрын
"Zero" is an oddly fitting name for it.
@shaneweightman
@shaneweightman 7 жыл бұрын
When the range is better and the prices come down I'd be interested,, I'm in me 50s been riding since I was 12 had a lot from the bottom to the top in power and cc ,,, would like to try one ,, great review Shane uk
@BoseBish
@BoseBish 7 жыл бұрын
Great review, although I wonder if the front break lever can be switched over to the left-hand side ,where the clutch usually is? Reason I ask is being a Leftie (Left-Handed predominantly, even though am ambidextrous) it would seem more convenient.
@Atreyas
@Atreyas 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure any reservoir based clutch lever would work, you'd just have to sort the switch for the light. Personally I think it'd be a terrible idea if you're used to riding a normal bike. Your muscle memory would be trying to brake on the right side in a panic stop and you'll have no lever where it should be. Also the accidental braking when your clutch instinct kicks in.
@Hirotoro4692
@Hirotoro4692 6 жыл бұрын
Atreyas plenty of people have modified their zeros to have left hand brake.
@richreynolds3647
@richreynolds3647 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative, humorous, and helpful review. I'm keenly interested in electric bikes, but just no there yet... Have multiple gas bikes, Honda, KTM, Yamaha, Suzuki, Ducati, and still love riding gas...
@michaelhayward7572
@michaelhayward7572 4 жыл бұрын
Best review of an EV m/c yet. As per usual John.
@Vasco_da-Gama
@Vasco_da-Gama 6 жыл бұрын
it didn't had chain and sprockets it does have a camshafts to run to deliver power ? am i right??
@larrikinaxe3424
@larrikinaxe3424 6 жыл бұрын
I ride a V4 with a loud pipe, it lets others know where I am - I've had a number of road bikes and have to say that the quiet one's placed me at more risk of injury. I believe sound needs to be engineered into these motorcycles, particularly off road as we need to hear what's coming.
@NoResultsReturned
@NoResultsReturned 7 жыл бұрын
I don't ride but KZfaq recommended your vid as I watch a lot of "Fully Charged" and other EV videos. Firstly, the filming, editing and production was 1st class. Your critique screamed experience and it was a thoroughly enjoyable watch. Have to ask though as a non-rider where you mentioned that on your petrol bikes when you were cutting up the lanes, dog walkers, hikers etc jumped into the hedges but didn't on the Zero I assume that was a safety disadvantage? Was the Zero that quiet to other road users? Also if you get a chance to do another review of a different model please go into the phone app in more detail. That looked really cool being able to tailor the tune from an app. Anyway, great watch! Subscribed! Edit: Have been "Google-fu"ing Zero and your channel. Didn't mean to sound condescending above, as judging by your view count you are a tier1 channel. Apparently Zero do an "S" that's CBT compliant (which is restricted by the app for EU regs, due to continuous torque output). If you're friendly with the dealer, I'd love your opinion as an alt to a regular 125 to someone considering a switch to 2 wheels for the commute/starting out.
@revengerking4798
@revengerking4798 6 жыл бұрын
Hello sir this is great beginning of electric bike
@ZR1Gamer
@ZR1Gamer 7 жыл бұрын
The future is here and it's looking amazing!
@ianarellano6632
@ianarellano6632 6 жыл бұрын
I think they filmed some of this in San Jose and Scott's Valley.
@deangouveia3164
@deangouveia3164 5 жыл бұрын
A brilliant review ... keep it up geezer
@askinc102
@askinc102 5 жыл бұрын
Do I have the option of buying only the battery pack ? Sounds mind boggling that Zero has implemented 14-15 kW battery pack with such low space constraints.
@SimonAmazingClarke
@SimonAmazingClarke 5 жыл бұрын
A couple of quick points. you normally rapid charge a battery to 80%, that can be very quick, over 80% the charge starts struggling to get into the battery, that is why they slow down and take all night to get to 100%. The second thing I want to mention is something that happened to me last year. I was at a car show in the EV area selling my book when I started chatting to a guy from the Australian Morris Minor club. I asked him what he thought of the idea of converting a Morris Minor to electric. His response really surprised me. he thought it was a brilliant idea, in fact they were already converting one. basically they love the car but hate the engine. It is heavy and under powered. Great review
@DominicVictoria
@DominicVictoria 6 жыл бұрын
Oh the Chinese 125. You will always be with us
@SternLX
@SternLX 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 ZERO DS. Just recently took a test ride on a 2018 ZERO SR ZF14.4 ... thing is a BEAST in Sport mode. I weigh only 160lbs so add that to the bikes 400lb curb weight and that 116ft/lb of torque really got my attention. Feels much punchier than my year older DS.
@sebastianlopez-qo2oe
@sebastianlopez-qo2oe 7 жыл бұрын
Excelente canal los felicito... saludos desde Colombia
@stuff7442
@stuff7442 7 жыл бұрын
Great review - enjoyed it. But regarding the range remaining - it's just saying to you - "If you continue to ride in the way that you've ridden, this is the range you'll get" - it didn't regenerate more miles (yes, it _did_ reclaim something from slowing down, but it's pretty negligible) - you were just riding conservatively enough for it to say "Hey, you carry on riding like that, you'll get this greater range instead" Switching your riding style to something more aggressive, it again just says "Ok, you ride like that - _this_ is the range you'll get" - it's a completely dynamic reading - which is really useful because it lets you see in real-time how's best to ride if range is important. The regenerative braking is good, but not that good.
@baqcasanke
@baqcasanke 6 жыл бұрын
Stuff i dont even have regen braking on my ebike cause i have a mid drive. But yea it gives you like 10% back at most
@lasoga2125
@lasoga2125 5 жыл бұрын
that burnout was dope af
@bluepawn
@bluepawn 6 жыл бұрын
Looking for those vehicles but with 3 wheels, roof, removable batteries on wheels so I can charge at home... I hope to seem them more on roads ! Thanks for the great video !
@BigDogRidgeback
@BigDogRidgeback 6 жыл бұрын
Another question I have actually two.First question is are they quiet.Second question is can it gear down.
@thorstambaugh1520
@thorstambaugh1520 5 жыл бұрын
Yes very quiet. You hear the birdies when you ride. You can adjust the options on your phone app for engine braking
@JasonCarmichael
@JasonCarmichael 6 жыл бұрын
Can the bike be moved when turned off? Does it have neutral?
@JohnMFlores
@JohnMFlores 7 жыл бұрын
Nice to get a British perspective on the Zero. FYI, there is no battery regen from the brakes, just rolling off the throttle.
@CodeZombie
@CodeZombie 7 жыл бұрын
You can program it to regen off the brake lever as well. That's how my Zero SR is set up. 0% throttle regen, 100% brakes regen.
@JohnMFlores
@JohnMFlores 7 жыл бұрын
Fair point. I sit corrected. But the distinction that I want to make is that when you apply the front brake, the regen is not happening at the front wheel but rather via the motor - it's akin to dragging the rear brake. This is not a big deal in most situations but it does subtly affect weight shift under braking. In sport riding it is good to get the weight shifted smoothly to the front contact patch to increase stopping power. In racing, it's not uncommon to see the rear wheel completely off the ground under hard braking. There's no regen happening then ;)
@CodeZombie
@CodeZombie 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed on that point, though I actually make use of this feature. I have my front brake lever setup so that it engages regen before the front calipers engage. That way a tiny amount of pressure on my front lever engages the regen on the rear wheel without any braking force on the front wheel, then as I apply more pressure my actual brakes on the front wheel engage. It takes a bit of tinkering to get set up nicely, but it makes for some really smooth progressive dual braking. :)
@Mmmyess
@Mmmyess 6 жыл бұрын
It's easy to forget that we already feel range anxiety on our petrol (i.e., gasoline) motorcycles, particularly on long rides between isolated towns (e.g., mountain rides, or cross country). I don't see the issue being siginificantly worse on an electric bike, particularly since 99% of my riding is done quite close to home.
@chiguy_
@chiguy_ 7 жыл бұрын
There is something to say about the feel of shifting.. however there is also something to say about just focusing on driving and not having to worry about anything else.. as for styling I am not a huge fan.. obviously changing some cosmetic stuff wouldn't be hard but I think that would be a great everyday driver, then on the weekend get yourself that cafe racer, R1,GSXr,big harley or whatever, and use that on the weekend to just run through that petrol.
@stevemulcahy5014
@stevemulcahy5014 7 жыл бұрын
Chi Guy I love shifting. But I understand why it's necessary with an ICE (to keep it making power as road speed changes). With an electric motor, it just isn't required and putting its output through a gearbox is just going to sap a bit extra power from it for nothing of real use.
@ELPAYASO1422
@ELPAYASO1422 7 жыл бұрын
this off topic but what kind of boots are those?
@babaduke3298
@babaduke3298 5 жыл бұрын
Coming soon, a solar charger windscreen option?
@michaelmwakio9014
@michaelmwakio9014 2 жыл бұрын
what happens when its raining and is it suitable for muddy roads
@themotobanditshow
@themotobanditshow 5 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thanks.
@tjwalkup7155
@tjwalkup7155 4 жыл бұрын
Like the review, sad you weren’t won over to electric. It would make me happy to know I am not tossing poison on some four year olds lungs. We are in this world together...I hope we clean it up for each other. Cheers!
@There-Is-No-Virus
@There-Is-No-Virus 7 жыл бұрын
Very good point that it does not look as good as it could be. They are not trying to be different enough in looks when they could and should. It would be nice to rock up somewhere and be noticed that the bike is very different.
@donandnanelmore8278
@donandnanelmore8278 7 жыл бұрын
I think they are trying to make a bike that appeals to people who already ride and not make it too weird looking. Trying to just appeal to people who already "get" electric vehicles is just too small a market.
@subaquatix687
@subaquatix687 6 жыл бұрын
Pure motorcycle enjoyment is the wind, the freedom, simplicity, the open road. The Zero just doesn't look that nimble and cool as a cafe. Dont mind classic design with silent motor. But congratulations to them for doing this fr! Someone has to be the first.
@07zx14White
@07zx14White 7 жыл бұрын
Very well sorted and well spoken review my friend. You offered many angles and outlooks and covered the bases. One of the better bike reviews in general to be honest. Thank you sir I enjoyed that. I myself shuttered at the idea of my beloved internal combustion engines dying out (still do actually) but I am getting more and more excited about trying out an EV bike. Cheers
@BikeWorldTVshow
@BikeWorldTVshow 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers Kevin
@matthewknobel6954
@matthewknobel6954 5 жыл бұрын
what about people not noticing the bike because the lack of sound. Will accidents increase??
@kylecouture1917
@kylecouture1917 6 жыл бұрын
I like the look of the main bodyfrom the side but from a front view, something about the headlight makes it look like an old bike. I like the fxs more.
@DrBreezeAir
@DrBreezeAir 5 жыл бұрын
There's a difference between electronic and electric. I'm concerned about those brakes. How can that puny front brake stop a 200-kilo bike properly? Thanks for the review!
@jhonedwardmutisurbano2655
@jhonedwardmutisurbano2655 7 жыл бұрын
Una forma de hacer mas efectiva la autonomía de las motos ZERO, seria que implementara una boina en la llanta delantera, y la producción de energía de la misma dirigida a las baterías; entonces tendría dos fuentes de produccion de energia cuando estuviera en movimiento. una que seria la energia que produce el motor al frenado y la otra que produciria la llanta delantera... esto aria la moto aun mas potente de lo que es elevando el porcentaje de autonomía al momento de conducir una moto electrica.
@Fuckyoutube852
@Fuckyoutube852 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video. The future is unexpected. I'm sure the steam engine fans were skeptical of the gasoline/petrol engine.
@manliocorradi2221
@manliocorradi2221 5 жыл бұрын
Lol... we have to be so careful when we speak in public. One little mistake becomes a long run of discredit. But let’s be real. He is not a politician. Just hopefully a good biker.
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