ZOOM 9002 - Common Failure Explained + Repair

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SunandWeather Electronics

SunandWeather Electronics

Күн бұрын

A common failure of the ZOOM 9002 explained.
Note that this video is based on my experience repairing these units. These symptoms may very well be caused by other component failures as well.

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@johnmcevoy3598
@johnmcevoy3598 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video. I have done this repair with minimal theoretical knowledge - just a basic understanding of 'these are bad, so change them.' I am curious to see if the electrolytics can be replaced with MLCC caps, as the repair has once again failed due to age. These things still sound awesome, and I'm glad people like you help give them new life!
@SunandWeather
@SunandWeather 6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! Whether or not an electrolytic capacitor can be replaced with an MLCC depends on the circuit. I would say that in most cases electrolytic capacitors are used when high capacitance is required because they are cheaper or because MLCCs with the desired value does not exist, but in some cases the properties of the electrolytic capacitors are specifically required for a circuit to operate correctly.
@ilvezz
@ilvezz 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for inspiring me! Took my 18yo dead Zoom 9002, replaced the 7 caps on the thin side of the PBC and now it works!!! I got a bit creative with positioning cause I only had regular capacitors. Super nice explanation too. Side note for beginners who tries this: there's a black mark on each capacitor, that's the negative pin. You could find it easier to scratch a bit the SMD pads and solder there the capacitors, bending the pins.
@matsnilson7727
@matsnilson7727 Жыл бұрын
I understood about 0,5% of all that, but it was nice to hear the 9002 working again. 🙂
@richardpel4569
@richardpel4569 4 жыл бұрын
Great man! I tried it and it worked. I used an 10uF 25v capacitor. Thank you very much!
@titozanella7704
@titozanella7704 3 жыл бұрын
I feel so dammed small, in front of your intelligence.....I need a band aid for my brain/... my zoom works great after 25 years... and you are a GENIUS.... I understand very little of what you explained but it was so interesting I can’t stop!
@titozanella7704
@titozanella7704 3 жыл бұрын
I want to do the sameeeeeeeeeee
@Par3TV
@Par3TV 4 жыл бұрын
I had a hum or creaking you think is capacitor too. What is the new replacement for capacitor so it will last longer? I saw in the video you used the different type of capacitor. Can you tell me the name and where to order? thank I still love the sound of ZOOM 9002
@SunandWeather
@SunandWeather 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Par3TV! It is very possible that your problems are caused by faulty capacitors. Although, I do not think they are caused by the capacitor that was replaced in the video. If you want your ZOOM 9002 to last a long time, I definitely suggest you replace all the electrolytic capacitors. I was lucky enough to be able to fit a through-hole mounted capacitor with ease thanks to the conveniently placed vias, but replacing all of them with through-hole capacitors would be a struggle. I suggest you look though the surface mount electrolytic capacitors on any of the big component retailers and find a series of capacitors with good specifications, and go with that. You should find a specification similar to "Lifetime @ Temp. = 2000 Hrs @ 105°C", which indicate the expected life-span of the capacitor; use this to compare.
@Prestapaganini
@Prestapaganini Жыл бұрын
Tnks, You are great, friend......
@SunandWeather
@SunandWeather Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@riders.oregon4474
@riders.oregon4474 3 ай бұрын
My non working 9002 came back to life after replacing all of the surface mounted electrolytic capacitors. (Maybe 15 dollars?) I bought a box that had a large variety. The voltage rating on them was higher than the ones in there but that didn’t matter. Had to watch some videos for the proper soldering techniques as they are quite small.
@SunandWeather
@SunandWeather 3 ай бұрын
Nice! Using capacitors with higher voltage rating than required is rarely a problem.
@MsSanto60
@MsSanto60 2 жыл бұрын
Hi SunandWeather, I saw in your video that you insert the 10mF electrolytic with the negative to the left. I had a doubt after seeing the circuit. Is the direction of the polarity with which you insert the capacitor correct? I saw on the datasheet circuit that the + pole of the capacitor would go to pin 2 of IC 6 and d the - pole would go to pin4. but you mount it upside down. it is OK? Could you tell me something?
@SunandWeather
@SunandWeather 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Santo Stiriti. It is important that the polarity of the electrolytic capacitor is correct. In this video, the polarity of the new capacitor is the same as the old one. Since the old capacitor had most certainly not been replaced before, there were no reason to doubt that the polarity was correct. I would not recommend using this video to determine the orientation of a new capacitor, as the polarity of the new capacitor is not clearly shown. Also keep i mind that there could be revision differences between the unit in this video and the unit you have, so they may not match exactly. Making sure that the capacitor is connected to the correct pins on the charge pump seem to be a good way to make sure that you have oriented the capacitor correctly, but make sure that the same charge pump is used in your unit.
@erymanthonseth9295
@erymanthonseth9295 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, first of all, thank you for the video! I had the same problem with my own unity. I replaced the capacitor with a new 63 V, 10 uF, but still no sound comes out. If you listen closely, you can hear that there is a low noise which changes as you change presets (it is the humming of the effects I believe), but nothing more, just like it was before Could it be the other capacitors, in your opinion? Ps. Also, when I turn it on, I hear a fairly low whistle that keeps rising in pitch (almost like a bomb falling, but reversed) until it gets stable EDIT: Ok, so, I inverted the polarity (I got that wrong before), it started sounding alright but there was a disturbing noise that kept getting louder, as the sound kept degradating again. Could it be that other capacitors need to be replaced?
@SunandWeather
@SunandWeather 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Erymanthon! Since it seems to be hard to find a service manual or schematic for the ZOOM 9002, proper troubleshooting will be tricky. My first guess would be one or several faulty electrolytic capacitors, but I could not tell you which one. It could be that the capacitor you replaced took damage when you reversed the polarity. If you plan to use your ZOOM 9002 a lot I would recommend replacing all electrolytic capacitors anyway as it is just a matter of time before they will start failing.
@erymanthonseth9295
@erymanthonseth9295 4 жыл бұрын
@@SunandWeather Thank you very much. Yes, I tried replacing two more capacitors and the sound got better, it sounds like it should but still it is very quiet. I ran out of spare capacitors so I'll need to buy some more and replace them all, but this seems the right way to go. Luckily enough I found it is not too hard to replace surface capacitors with regolar ones, I just cut and bend the legs and it just works. Thanks again for this useful video!
@digivish
@digivish 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have the same issue and I've ordered the replacement caps. I plan to replace the 4 caps 1x10uF and 3x47uF surrounding the IC to be on the safe side - those caps will anyway fizz out sometime. One thing I know about the removal of these caps is that you don't need to desolder. Just grab a needle nose plier, hold it around and gently twist - it pops right out - with no pass and solder pads intact.
@digivish
@digivish 4 жыл бұрын
So, a quick update. I removed the cap out cleanly and soldered a new 16V 10mF in its place but there was no change - still no output. I think I'll go ahead and replace the other 3 as well. Also, thinking it might be the IC. Have you +sunandweather replaced the IC? Don't want to mess it up!
@SunandWeather
@SunandWeather 4 жыл бұрын
@@digivish Hi digivish! As the capacitors goes bad the IC may be operating outside its specifications, which could potentially damage it. I have not replaced this myself, though. As it can be quite tricky to remove I would try to measure it as the video suggest before replacing it. If you come to the conclusion that you need to replace it, I would suggest you try to remove the solder with solder wick. Start by adding a bit of standard tin solder to the pads before using the solder wick to remove it.
@digivish
@digivish 4 жыл бұрын
@@SunandWeather Yes that's what I'll end up doing. My voltage measurements are 5V at V+ and 0.5V and V- so definitely off.
@digivish
@digivish 3 жыл бұрын
Good news on one of my Zoom 9002 (I have 2) I replaced the IC7660 and the 10mF capacitor and everything works great and so does the sound! Now my second Zoom 9002 has a persistent sound in the output - even metronome and tuner are not clear tons - I can sense them on and off but the hum/sound is consistent. Input signals only faintly show on Bank 0, Patch 1 but other patches no sound at all. I replaced the IC7660 and most caps as well but no difference - any ideas?
@eddiewilbury1666
@eddiewilbury1666 3 жыл бұрын
@@digivish Hello. Can you tell me please, what is a IC7660? I'll try to repair my 9002, but before open it, I'm reading all comments. Please.
@luisatar...9167
@luisatar...9167 4 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem. I'll try to fix it and then I'll let you know. Thank you !
@luisatar...9167
@luisatar...9167 4 жыл бұрын
It didn't work. Help me !! Please
@thierry.lavallee
@thierry.lavallee 2 жыл бұрын
How do you FACTORY reset this unit?
@txilibrist
@txilibrist 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I have +4.96v on pin 8 (in) and -4.68v on pin 5 (out) Between pins 2 and 4 (10uf) 4.80v or +2.47 and -2.32v with reference to ground. Are the readings correct? Still not working after changing 8 capacitors Thanks
@SunandWeather
@SunandWeather 3 ай бұрын
Hello! It sounds like the charge pump on your unit is working as intended, so the failure is likely elsewhere.
@pedal4review722
@pedal4review722 4 жыл бұрын
great video I dont even have one , but I didnt get why they used that charge pump
@SunandWeather
@SunandWeather 4 жыл бұрын
Hi P4R! I am guessing they wanted a +/- supply for the analog circuitry so that the signal could be centered around ground. But that is just a guess.
@efirehawk
@efirehawk 4 жыл бұрын
Hello. I am a Zoom 9002 enthusiast and have a few damaged units I'd like to repair. Do you offer this kind of service? If so, are you in Europe? Thank you.
@SunandWeather
@SunandWeather 4 жыл бұрын
Hi efirehawk! As of now, I do these repairs as a hobby, whenever I have time to spare. If you want to fix your units I recommend getting all the electrolytic capacitors replaced, not just the one that is causing the device to fail like in the video, as it is just a matter of time before the other ones will start failing.
@pinog.4376
@pinog.4376 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, very useful. I have the same problem, could you give me the exact abbreviation of the electrolytic capacitor to be replaced? Thanks a lot.
@SunandWeather
@SunandWeather 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Pino G.! I replaced C56, a 10 uF, 16 V electrolytic capacitor. Please note that there is no guarantee that this is the component that is causing your device to fail. If you plan to use it a lot I would recommend replacing all electrolytic capacitors as it is just a matter of time before they will start failing.
@pinog.4376
@pinog.4376 4 жыл бұрын
@@SunandWeather Thank you very much, greetings.
@mikeykhhung
@mikeykhhung Жыл бұрын
I put a 10uf 63v at the place as you but it doesn’t work
@josuey.80sfloresb.59
@josuey.80sfloresb.59 4 жыл бұрын
BIEN AHI
@luisatar...9167
@luisatar...9167 4 жыл бұрын
I used a 10uF 50v. I didn't work. Help me
@SunandWeather
@SunandWeather 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Luisatar! Since it seems to be hard to get hold of a service manual for the ZOOM 9002, troubleshooting will be difficult. As I said in the video, these electrolytic capacitors are not made to last, so it is very likely that there are some of the other electrolytic capacitor that is faulty. If you can measure the output voltage of the charge pump and make sure you get -5 V, you will know that that part of the circuit is working and if not, it might be the output capacitor that has gone bad, or perhaps the charge pump IC itself due to operation outside recommended conditions. If you have the -5 V on the output, the problem is somewhere else. In that case your best bet is probably to replace all of the electrolytic capacitors. It could of course be some other component that has gone bad, but without a schematic it will most likely be very tedious to find.
@justplaywoman
@justplaywoman 3 жыл бұрын
pup !
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