Zoom H4n Pro vs H4n

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8 жыл бұрын

Zoom H4n Pro Handy Recorder
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Zoom recently updated their very popular H4n Handy Recorder with the H4n Pro. So what’s different on the new Pro version? Let’s take a look and a listen!
This entire episode was recorded with the Zoom H4n Pro and RØDE NTG2 Shotgun microphone outdoors on a summer evening. There is some ambient noise. But don’t worry, we also have a few clips in my studio where there is very little ambient noise. All of the audio was normalized to -24 LUFS and no other processing was applied - no noise reduction, EQ, compression, or anything else.
If you’d like to improve your sound recording skills for film, please have a look at our Sound Recording for Video course over at school.learnlightandsound.com
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Gear mentioned in or used to record this episode:
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Zoom H4n Pro Handy Recorder
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Zoom H5 Handy Recorder
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RODE NTG2 Shotgun Microphone
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Also shot with Aputure Light Storm LS1s LED Light, Aputure Light Storm COB 120t (for the product shots), and Nikon D750
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Aputure Light Storm LS1s LED Light
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Nikon D750
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Aputure Light Storm COB120t LED Hard Light
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Copyright 2016 by Curtis Judd
Ethics statement: Some of the links above are Amazon.com, B&H Photo, or other affiliate links.

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@andrewculp1378 4 жыл бұрын

I cannot say how much I appreciate the work you do, Curtis! Your videos are so informative, professional, and thorough. Thank you for your hard and tireless work.

@curtisjudd 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, Andrew!

@sganzerla 7 жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for this as I have 2x H4n and had doubts about upgrading one of them. Thanks for the review!

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

@douglasfairmeadow 7 жыл бұрын

Great work Curtis. Always blown away by the thoroughness of your reviews.

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you Douglas!

@HHU_ZIM_MLS 4 ай бұрын

Thank you so much, this seems like the most professionally made review I ever saw on YT...

@iamfrankstallone 7 жыл бұрын

Brilliant review, as always. Thank you!

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Frank!

@theASMRnerd 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Curtis! Just want to say thank you for your informative, professional content. I make ASMR videos, and your channel has been extremely helpful to me over the years. Just today I picked up a pair of Rode NT1-As, and was looking for a feature-rich, low-noise portable recorder that wouldn't break the bank. After watching this video and listening to your sound samples, I settled on the H4n Pro. So thank you once again for your help!

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

You're welcome and I hope you enjoy your new recording gear!

@elnisdjcheco 7 жыл бұрын

Even if you are not looking for the product you are reviewing you still learn a bunch just watching it.

@LearnLightAndSoundSessions 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Elnis!

@MarcelloScotti 4 жыл бұрын

great as usual, Curtis, once again thanks for your great reviews!

@curtisjudd 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Marcello.

@CZsWorld 7 жыл бұрын

Main reason I never got the popular H4N about a year or so ago was your review. I ended up with the DR 60-D and still use it all the time.

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, Zoom now has a recorder in the same league as the DR60-DmkII.

@BEBauer007 7 жыл бұрын

Another thorough review man, as always. Thank u!!

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

+Blake Bauer you're welcome!

@SubToTripleThreatRC 7 жыл бұрын

Another great job, thanks for sharing! Thumbs up!

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@sl1ppey 7 жыл бұрын

Was looking to get a H4N to pair with my camera, and was curious about this Pro version when it came out. Thank you for the very detailed comparison!

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

You're welcome and best of luck on your new recorder!

@Yootjoob 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mr Judd, As a subscriber i am happy with your content, keep it up.

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

@TheDuasun 7 жыл бұрын

After watching review, i bought H4n pro. Didn't regret it. Very hepfull video. Thanx !

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Glad it is working well for you! Thanks!

@coltonofdsc694 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, this is exactly what I've been looking for!

@curtisjudd 5 жыл бұрын

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@mattbade2001 7 жыл бұрын

Very informative and professional review. Thank you!

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Matthew.

@RickyGarcia_Learning 7 жыл бұрын

Dang Curtis! Helped me out with two videos in one week! Thanks!

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

The pleasure is all mine!

@spandana_music 6 жыл бұрын

Great review, as is always the standard with Curtis. And I took the last bit of advice very seriously. I've just moved up to a Zoom H5 from my old Zoom H4n. Fully worth it.

@curtisjudd 6 жыл бұрын

Glad it worked out for you! Happy recording!

@johnkaufi 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Curtis, good video - as usual!

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks John!

@utube101x 7 жыл бұрын

I have tinnitus making it hard to pick up on high pitch noise. I appreciate the actual measurements and testing you've done.

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate that!

@joshuasmith1215 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm sold. Picking this over the H5 since it has the same pre-amps. And I like that with this I can move the built in mics to cover 120 degrees instead of being stuck at 90 on the H5. I honestly think that having rotary knobs to adjust the input level isn't that great of a selling point as most people using this kind of device to record aren't going to be playing with knobs while recording a scene. And even though it has that bar to protect from accidentally turning them, seems like it would still be very possible to accidentally turn them while recording.

@curtisjudd 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Josh. One note: The inputs on the H4n Pro and H5 are not exactly the same. The H5 can produce substantially more gain (+52dB vs +43dB on the H4n Pro). If you'll be using external microphones with the H4n Pro, you'll just want to make sure they have a good, strong output signal as the amount of gain is probably the H4n Pro's weakest point - albeit slightly better than the original H4n. Best wishes and happy recording!

@whisperedlyricsasmr3996 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Curtis. Great review. When, if ever, would you use the built in mic to record your sound? I just got mine with that use in mind, but all the vids I see speak about a connecting a shot gun or lav mic. So is it wrong to use the built in mics?

@blackhawkcourt 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I do like the knobs of h5,6. I actually also like the form factor of xlrs going out sideways h6 if I Wer to shoulder mount it as well. Hmmm

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

The H6 is a solid choice. I borrowed one from B&H for about a month and found it to work really well except that the screen was tough to see when shooting outdoors.

@blackhawkcourt 7 жыл бұрын

thanks for the response! went to guitar center today. impressed with the h5 and the knob protector made it feel solid and refined (felt super good in the hand). the h6 is interesting tho...if i want to record 6 xlr inputs...and do that sort of thing :D

@matinatrushi9518 4 жыл бұрын

This is a great video and super helpful. Thank you for making it! :)

@curtisjudd 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@burhanaltncan4527 4 жыл бұрын

I am amazed by your videos sound quality. Thank you for the clear explanation. I think I will buy second hand h5.

@curtisjudd 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks and happy recording!

@kaicheng2228 6 жыл бұрын

amazing video!! love the detailed review, thanksss

@curtisjudd 6 жыл бұрын

You are welcome and thanks for the feedback!

@telmopelicano 7 жыл бұрын

Once again, another great review! I have one question, are the zoom H1 pre-amps the same as the H4N or somewhere in between the H4N and the H4N pro?

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

I suspect that the amplifier circuitry for the 3.5mm inputs is separate from the XLR inputs so they're not the same. I'll have to do a separate test of the 3.5mm inputs.

@terset9912 5 жыл бұрын

Super happy with the H4N which I got about 8 years ago. No need for filming, just home audio recording. But if someone was buying now, probably best to spend the few extra bucks. I do prefer the display on the pro over H4n amber, however.

@curtisjudd 5 жыл бұрын

I agree. Thanks for that!

@karlprince9741 7 жыл бұрын

absolutely smashing review thank you very much

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Karl!

@sidehop 3 жыл бұрын

Noticeable ambient hiss with H4n than the H4n Pro too :) Thank you for this!

@curtisjudd 3 жыл бұрын

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@thebigstrongsound1328 6 жыл бұрын

whao...one of the best reviews I have ever seen!

@curtisjudd 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@alkevinzmedia 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Curtis! I was looking for a comparison of these two a week ago hehe. :)

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, I hope this wasn't too late!

@alkevinzmedia 7 жыл бұрын

Oh no not all, I still have warranty on my. H4n at guitar center , I'll get credit on buy back and get this instead . :) Thank you !

@willia_music 6 жыл бұрын

great in-depth comparison

@curtisjudd 6 жыл бұрын

+Will Chorski thanks!

@harrisbarnard 6 жыл бұрын

Very helpful, thanks Curtis.

@curtisjudd 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Harris.

@Bluestonerock 7 жыл бұрын

Really useful, thank you; I'm looking to replace my H2 and this helped me better understand the H4n Pro, though I'm now going to go with the H5.

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

+Bluestonerock that's what I would do, too.

@achongpojar2726 3 жыл бұрын

H2 is not available in the market and I really need one.

@UpHillCinema 7 жыл бұрын

Awesome as always

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Levi!

@speliotis Жыл бұрын

I wish I had known about the H5... but def happy I invested in the H4 Pro.

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

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@63MacGuy 7 жыл бұрын

Great video. Does the H4n Pro or H5 have dual recording like the Tascam DR-40?

@cheapfeet 7 жыл бұрын

Great job, thx. I have the H4n & love it. If it breaks, Pro I'll go.

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

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@BarkatAli-pp9gt 4 жыл бұрын

Very Comprehensive! Great. dear Curtis.

@curtisjudd 4 жыл бұрын

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@BestofSFStandup 10 ай бұрын

Hi, great video! Thanks so much for taking the time to put this together!! Do you know if there is a remote mic adapter for the H4? Something I could plug into the "2" input that would connect to a remote mic placed elsewhere in the same room? Thanks, keep up the great vids!

@EPHONIC 7 жыл бұрын

Hey, Curtis. Thanks so much for this high quality review. Always enjoy your content. Question: Can I record the audio using an XLR mic to both my DSLR and the Zoom H4n Pro simultaneously so I have audio on both my media card for my camera and the Zoom? Also, I have a LUMIX G7 and want to monitor the audio with headphones. Can I use a line splitter so I can run audio to the camera from the Zoom and to headphones? Any insight and expertise would be greatly appreciated.

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Hi, Yes, you can run the audio out of the zoom to camera. You'll need to experiment with your particular camera as that sometimes requires a special attenuation cable like this: bhpho.to/2m90KTL You'll want to test without the special cable first just to confirm (this is not something I have done personally). Yes, you could also use a splitter to monitor. There is a risk that will degrade the audio signal going to the camera so it is a tradeoff. For the scenario you outline, the Tascam DR-60DmkII may be a better option as it does not require the attenuation cable and has a separate headphone jack. I reviewed that over here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iriffLCBrbmdYYk.html

@EPHONIC 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Curtis. I will give it a shot.

@PhilDanielsStorr 7 жыл бұрын

This is so helpful! Thank you!

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

+Philip Daniels Storr you're welcome!

@StuporStudio 7 жыл бұрын

I love the review and I'm actually sold on the H4n pro. The only question is, will it be useful for what I am gonna use it for? On my channel you can see that I put out fullset live videos of hardcore/punk bands here in the Philippines. And I only use GoPro Hero 4 for everything, I will be changing cameras too (Canon 80D) but Is the H4n the right recorder for me? Thanks.

@xray111xxx 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you Curtis for your timely review of the Zoom H4n Pro. You confirmed for me what I was thinking when I first saw this recorder. Save up another $50.00 and get the H5 instead. That Rocker level control bothers me too. No quick precision with that kind of control. But if you have plenty of time to get everything staged before hand, maybe not so much an issue. Value is amazing at about $220.00 street. I still haven't landed on which direction I want to go. The Tascam DR-701 with HDMI sync is not compatible with my Nikon D5500, so the Zooms, and the Tascam DR-70 are in the running. As much as I want a Sound Devices, it just is too much of a stretch for me money wise. I could buy mics, a cage, and more with that money I spend on the Sound Devices. As always, I look forward to your reviews. They are easy to follow, and no nonsense, and always have the valuable data I need. Please keep up the great work. Loyal Subscriber for the long term. I have already dropped some other so called photo or video subs because I get what I need here.

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Vincent! Your feedback is most appreciated! Best wishes on finding the right recorder for your projects!

@McDeslandes 3 жыл бұрын

Having watched a whole load of videos about microphones, recorders, etc. for film, and recently wanting to up my audio game, I would like to make a comment.A lot of the review videos I have watched for said microphones and recorders, have terrible audio in them! So how can these guys review these things if they can’t even get their own audio right. This is the first video where I have said, ah-ha! This guy knows what audio is. Thank you so much for the informative video, I think I’ll be getting the H4n pro.

@curtisjudd 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Timothy. Happy recording!

@BogdanPalenciuc 7 жыл бұрын

Hey Curtis, great rewiev, can you tell me please, if there is difference quality from the jack line in vs xlr line in?

@Dogband 5 жыл бұрын

Just made my decision. What a concise, helpful review. Thanks. Just subscribed also.

@curtisjudd 5 жыл бұрын

👍Happy recording!

@alotl1kevegas860 2 жыл бұрын

Great video as always. I keep finding your videos on my search for a recorder, and tips/tricks. Subscribed. Curious what your opinion/recommendation is on the H4N Pro vs the H6? Will be using mainly to record motorcycle engine/exhaust noise. And occasionally voice overs for Repair videos. Much appreciated, thank you 🙏

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I’m not an expert on recording engines, but I’d probably opt for the H6.

@RallenMan 7 жыл бұрын

Excellent review. I gave my H4n to a friend a while ago and moved up to a TASCAM DR-100 mkII for a more semi-pro hand held recorder. I think the TASCAMS are superior to the Zoom units but I have to give Zoom credit on this improved H4n model.

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, their latest generation of recorders are quite good.

@richarddlewis5422 4 ай бұрын

Great review!. Question: can I use one external mic that needs phantom power and one external mic that does not,,and not damage the mic that does not require the phantom power?

@ronmack2345 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. What basic settings do you recommend for the H4N Pro for recording outdoor sounds such as car horns, buses passing by, etc..? I recorded with the H4N Pro last weekend and there was a humming sound. I not sure if it was the wind? the audio was unusable. I will subscribe to your channel. Your videos are great.

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Ron, I would set the input level so that the sounds take the meter no higher than -12dB. Also, if you're working outdoors, you will need some wind protection for the mic. Ideally, you'll want a blimp cover. If not, a Rycote Softie may help in light winds: amzn.to/2vNyWZU

@betod63 7 жыл бұрын

Nice review Curtis. Heve you compared the dynamic range of this new H4n Pro to the Tascam DR100 MKII that is still available at a reduced price?

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Alberto, I sold off my DR-100mkII a couple of years ago. I can tell you from memory that its preamps were rather noisy by today's standards so I would definitely expect better noise performance from the new H4n Pro.

@konstantinivanov8951 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review ! But still curious , which one would be better overall h4n pro or h5 ? Thanks !

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

+Konstantin_one personal preference. My preference is the H5.

@fidelehurgler2830 7 жыл бұрын

Outstanding videos to learn about audiorecording, thanks a lot! Does it make sense to use the H4n Pro with the Audiotechnica 4053b?

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

+Fidele Hurgler sure, worked nicely together in my tests.

@Daniel-yg5uy 7 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see the video

@oliver-fietz 7 жыл бұрын

Tank you very much ... Great Test! i will buy the H4N Pro :)

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

You're welcome and best wishes!

@PixelGRID 7 жыл бұрын

Great video man! Which audio interface or field recorder would you recommend in the same price bracket of H4N Pro (which would provide even cleaner and silent signal to phantom mics)? It doesn't matter if its field recorder or Audio interface. I just want cleaner signal. And, I'm about to make a purchase. So really thanks for putting this video. This helped a lot!

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

H4n Pro, Tascam DR-60DmkII are very similar in terms of preamplifier self noise. They sound slightly different with the Zoom imparting a little more low-end (though not by a lot). Focusrite also makes some nice audio interfaces and the 2nd generation Scarlett series just came out a few months ago. Great option if you prefer an audio interface: amzn.to/2bfzd0r

@HP10geance 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Curtis, thanks for making these great videos! Slightly off topic but may I know what was your set-up for this video when you recorded the narration outdoors? Because the audio quality is simply so clean! Did you also process your audio and clean it up further in post too?

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Hi yes, I boomed the RODE NTG2 microphone just above me out of the frame with a Rycote Cyclone wind cover and a boom pole mounted to a century stand. Then in post, I just normalized the levels. No EQ or noise reduction processing applied.

@HP10geance 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Now I'm more confident heading into the field!

@dorian3260 7 жыл бұрын

Hi! This question might be premature because I just got my H4n pro and I'm still watching you guys explain it, lol. You've saved me a trip to Guitar Center, for sure. Basically, I was content recording myself playing harmonica, using jam tracks on KZfaq, with my Canon digital camera/recorder. (Check out my practice videos on KZfaq, if you like) I find that I am more comfortable watching myself play than I ever was watching myself working out. The sound is plenty good for soloing, but I find that if I record myself playing along with a CD or record, the camera equalizes the sound, so that I wind up playing over the singer. How can I get a good mix with the H4n Pro?

@vanzetti7 7 жыл бұрын

Great review mate - so the H5 pre-amps would work fine with the rode NTG-2?

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

+vanzetti7 thanks, yes, good combination!

@WillyZonLievens 4 жыл бұрын

As always... professional review. Thank you. But what about the connection of a lavalier microphone (without phantom batteries) at the H4n Pro?

@curtisjudd 4 жыл бұрын

There is a 3.5mm mic input on the back you can use

@alancraigie8511 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you again. I've done some addt research. Apparently you can plug into the mini jack on back up near the mics and run 2 separate signals in and process them individually in post. That would give you 4 independent tracks. I'm going to purchase the h4n pro with this in mind. Thx AC

@curtisjudd 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks and good luck!

@johnnicholson8345 6 жыл бұрын

the original has the same functionality.

@moggiee1 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent vid - thank you

@curtisjudd 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@FreqsTV 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome review! Thanks! My H4n started to get a short in the right channel and I wanted to update to the H4n. But off topic: how did you achieve that shot of you filming yourself as a silhouette? Thanks in advance!

@curtisjudd 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Here is a lighting tutorial on how to do the silhouette lighting: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l5d2YJqXkq_WqY0.html

@FreqsTV 4 жыл бұрын

@@curtisjudd thanks Curtis!

@yingyang3321 6 жыл бұрын

hello Curtis, do you think the zoom h4n pro can be used greatly with the rode ntg4 using phantom power?

@bloombergvo959 7 жыл бұрын

Great video. So I've got a question for you. I want to record a podcast of my friend and I in a car. I was thinking the stereo mic would be enough to pick us both up if it's in the middle but maybe it won't be. What do you think? Also, one option would be to hook up an external shotgun into one of the XLR inputs. Is it possible to record like that (3 channels) and would it sound strange to have one of us in Mono?

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

I assume you're recording with an H4n? If so, I'd just start with the in-built microphones. Simpler often ends up being the better solution.

@jaydabliu 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this comparison.. Made my decision way easier.. Any big difference between H4n Pro and H5?

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

+Joe Were sound quality is the same, I prefer the input/gain controls on the H5. No locking XLRs on H5

@juntangphotography 7 жыл бұрын

Hey Curtis, great video. Have seen a bunch of your videos, however this will be my first question. I have previously use the Juicelink RA333 because I can have one XLR input, and split the line into 2. And the 2nd records at a -12dB lower as backup. In case of clipping. I understand I can use an XLR splitter and record different levels. However, does the H4n Pro have the ability to split the input and record at a different level? If so, would love a quick video on that. Thanks again for your content.

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Jun Tang, unfortunately it does not have that feature as far as I am aware. One thing you could do is feed the audio to your camera and record at a lower level on the recorder, a hotter level in camera. That way you have the option in post. Good luck!

@1608enrique 7 жыл бұрын

Hello Curtis! thank you for your review; very usefull, i have a bit of a question; i need something to record live sessions of music that will vary from swing jazz , ballad, latin... up to rock, funk and alike, do you recomend this mike for that kind of recording? thank you again Curtis Judd!

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

+Enrique Gago yes, the H4n Pro is a good option. If you plan to bet a feed from soundboards, there are better options. Good luck!

@antoinevanderstraeten1315 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review ! In your opinion how does the preamps of the H4n pro compare to the H5 and H6 ?

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks, the H4n Pro's preamps sound the same as the H5 and H6 to my ears.

@supriabudiman 6 жыл бұрын

Holla Thanks for this great video Btw i have question Can i plug condenser mic or something like that to this device so i can plug it to pc (like phantom pro jobs) ?

@curtisjudd 6 жыл бұрын

Hi, yes, you can plug XLR based condenser microphones into the H4n and connect the H4n to your computer via USB to use it as an audio interface. And yes, it will supply phantom power to the microphone.

@CptJackFerret 7 жыл бұрын

What input/volume would you suggest for using the h4n to plug into a camera? (I use a Sony HDR-AS20 that has plugin power) Not having to sync my audio in post sounds absolutely lovely.

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

I would set the camera's mic input level to one step above off and then adjust the Tascam's output level until the audio peaks just hit -12dB. If the audio meters on the camera don't show that level of detail, you'll need to experiment and get to know the camera's meters until you know where you want the peaks, usually just into the yellow zone (if they have that) or perhaps two notches from the top, etc. I hope that helps!

@mcarrizosac 5 жыл бұрын

Great review! Question: does it make sense to use H4n pro with a Pro Lavalier Lapel Microphone JK MIC-J 044? Will Quality and/or noise reduction be affected? Or do i really have to buy XLR mics? I'm a newbie so i'm a bit lost Here. Great channel, thank you!

@curtisjudd 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Manuel, the 3.5mm TRS plug version of the JK MicJ 044 will work fine. Be sure to get the version for Zoom recorders and not the version for Sennheiser.

@mcarrizosac 5 жыл бұрын

@@curtisjudd Can't thank you enough! New fan here!

@dejffjed 7 жыл бұрын

Hi there. Thanks for your videos first of all. Now, can the H4n record from external and internal mics at the same time?

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, it can. Thanks.

@coachcashmoney 6 жыл бұрын

I love having the zoomh4 and zoomh6. I can't actually hear any difference in recording. Maybe if I try to play close attention or do a side by side comparison. Zoom recorders opened up a whole new world in video making for me!

@curtisjudd 6 жыл бұрын

👍

@kathleendeblieck7727 4 жыл бұрын

Good info for a new user! thanks

@curtisjudd 4 жыл бұрын

👍 you bet!

@MrCoillote 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Curtis, I really appréciate your video which is the most professionnal I've seen on Zoom product. I do decide to buy a H4N Pro so, I'm not yet one. Experimenting serious trouble with the external alimentation. When I'm connecting Line (unbalanced) mics on baterry it's ok. When I'm plugin the external alimentation I have 50Hz +15-18dB background noise. Can you have a check by your side on Zoom products with external alim ? I just can't figure where the problem come, bad alim or bad inside zoom isolation or bad electrical mass. Just wanna know if other product suffer from same disease ?

@curtisjudd 5 жыл бұрын

Hi, I do not have the H4n Pro still, just borrowed it for the review. Probably best to contact Zoom support. Sounds like a ground loop issue.

@interactbiz2 7 жыл бұрын

Do you have suggestions for equipment to record conversations between two people, interviewer & interviewee, in the field? I'm thinking a Zoom recorder with two lavalier microphones. Must be compact for travel and work in variety of conditions, indoors and out.

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Sit-down interviews that are longer or the type where you walk up to someone and quickly interview them? If you go with two lavalier mics, you might find an audio adapter to be a better option because many of them have two 3.5mm mic inputs whereas most recorders, including the Zoom H series recorders only have one 3.5mm input. There aren't as many XLR based lavalier mics on the market. If the interview will be more like a newscast, a dynamic reporter's mic might be a better option. Let me know which direction you're headed and we can get some recommendations together for you.

@interactbiz2 7 жыл бұрын

Most often, it will involve short sit-downs but not in a studio setting, maybe in offices or relatively quiet public spaces. Other times, it might involve talking with someone in his/her work place with a bit of movement and ambient noise. Pinning a lavalier on someone seems to allow them to behave more naturally than when they have to worry about microphone positioning and are always aware of being recorded.

@rlrrlrll 4 жыл бұрын

@Curtis Judd I've watched 2 of your videos, great videos! I want to record my drums, I'm not that deep into filmmaking (yet). But I subscribed, your content is great and the review is on point not too much blah blah around it. At the end you talk about the H5 and the gain knobs, now my question is can I adjust the gain knobs to exactly the same levels on mic input 1 and 2? Because they are independendly I might have a problem with recording with the exact same levels once I adjust one gain knob. SO the H4 has the side buttons but they allow to perfectly put any number between 1 and 100 I think, with the gain knobs that's not possible, or am I wrong? I used the h4 and I have doubts about the h5 because I need reproducable settings for the 2 external mics....Thank you! :)

@curtisjudd 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Swizzy, thanks for the question. The H5's preamps can supply a bit more gain which is the main reason I suggest it over the H4n Pro. But if getting the levels gained up exactly the same, the H4n does have that advantage.

@rlrrlrll 4 жыл бұрын

@@curtisjudd Zoom writes they have the same preamps in the h4pro as the h5 and h6 so I really wonder why the gain is so much different... Although playing drums is so loud on the h4 i had to set 'mic level' to 25 which is very low + external mics also set that low and -10dB. As far as my understanding goes, gain is needed to adjust the input level/volume of the mic. When weak signals need to be recorded there's the need of more gain, right? My case is the exact opposite. I guess I'll just go with the h4 pro :D thank you for your input!

@yetonlock2596 7 жыл бұрын

Thank for the video, very interessting.

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

@andrew_soh 7 жыл бұрын

Are you using the sanken cos 11d on a rodelink for the outdoor part of this video? I couldn't hear any background noise at all. Amazing! And is it me or was there a slight delay in the lip sync for the outdoor part. Wireless issue? Thanks again for the review!

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Andrew, This was recorded with a RODE NTG2 in a Rycote Cyclone wind cover. It does an amazing job at managing wind. Of course it was all recorded to the H4n Pro. Yes, I definitely had some sync issues here. Been fighting with the newest version of Premiere. Sorry for that. :(

@andrew_soh 7 жыл бұрын

Oh an NTG2...ok cool. No problem about the sync. Still appreciate the video. Thanks and keep it up!

@phrankus2009 4 жыл бұрын

I am an electric guitar student with a notebook DAW and I chose the H4n PRO bc of the various FX, modelling, filters, etc. … Do the H5 / H6 provide as much guitar support ?

@curtisjudd 4 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure, I’m a sound for video guy. Maybe somebody else here knows.

@granddaddy2883 5 жыл бұрын

ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC VIDEO...YOU ROCK !...THIS IS EXTREMELY EASY TO FOLLOW....AND I AM A VERY SLOW "UNDERSTANDER" ...THANKS VERY MUCH. FOR A BEGINNER, IS THIS THE BEST ENTRY PRODUCT FOR RECORDING TRACKS AND THEN OVERDUBBING AND MIXING ?? I KNOW ALMOST NOTHING RE THIS PROCEDURE.

@curtisjudd 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Granddaddy, Yes, I'd consider it a good entry level recorder for overdubbing. Happy recording!

@drdimento 5 жыл бұрын

Nice review. How about the H5 having an issue with blowing out the preamps if you are using a condenser mic and unplug its' XLR while live? Do you know if this has been resolved? I had it happen, looked it up, and so have others. Thanks in advance for considering this question.

@curtisjudd 5 жыл бұрын

Have heard of it once, but don't have direct experience with it. Thanks for sharing. Perhaps others here have experienced it?

@LukeFlegg 7 жыл бұрын

The sound quality in this windy outdoor recording is too good

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, I used a Rycote Cyclone wind cover which makes it sound like a studio recording. For a narrative piece, I would also record some wind as a backing track to make it more realistic. The reason to use the wind cover is to prevent the wind from blowing across the microphone capsule and distorting the sound.

@JimmyDevere 6 жыл бұрын

Do you have a link or model for the cyclone? I just did a quick search and what popped up was +$500! Twice as much as the mic! Is that what you are using? If so, are there any other lower cost alternatives you might recommend for the Rode NTG2? Thanks!

@curtisjudd 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Jimmy, There are, of course, less expensive options but they are not as effective. Could still perhaps do the job in wind that is not as extreme: amzn.to/2gOfUfR RODE also makes a blimp style cover that is priced at $299: bhpho.to/2z46Rym

@JimmyDevere 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Curtis!

@neoshazam 7 жыл бұрын

I just recently got the H4N Pro. I'll be using it for basic walk around to feed into my DSLR. Thinking about Sennheiser MKE 600 for a shotgun mic and something else.

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

The MKE 600 will work nicely with the H4n Pro. I see that B&H has a special bundle right now that includes the Izotope Plugin Pack which is normally priced at $129 and includes the best noise reduction plugin I've used. I also use the de-click plugin quite a lot to manage mouth clicks and lip smacks, etc. Way better than the corresponding tools in Adobe Audition. Also a shock mount and a couple of cables. Worth a look: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/878340-REG/Sennheiser_MKE_600_Shotgun.html/BI/19904/KBID/12941/kw/SEMKE600/DFF/d10-v2-t1-xSEMKE600

@IanLewis10 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! When you recorded the audio from the Zoom H4n Pro did you modify the audio in post to get rid of hissing noises? Or Is this how the audio sounds directly from the H4n Pro?

@curtisjudd 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Ian, I did not apply any noise reduction so you’re hearing it without any cleanup. Note that some microphones will still produce some self noise as we discussed so I’d steer clear of mics like the RODE NTG2 just to save yourself that hiss.

@IanLewis10 4 жыл бұрын

@@curtisjudd Yikes! I just bought the RODE NTG4+. Which mic do you recommend I use for film? Thanks you!

@curtisjudd 4 жыл бұрын

@@IanLewis10 Well, give it a try and see how it goes. 😀

@Drb3r 7 жыл бұрын

Hi, I have a couple of questions, first I'd like to give you somewhat of a backstory. I don't have any experience with sound recording but I'm looking for the best handheld recorder to use for filmmaking (animation) purposes, I'd like to record sound effects, ambience sound, nature recordings and voice recording. I've done research and quickly found the Zoom H2n, then found the Zoom H4n, and now the Zoom H4n pro. These are the recorders I can afford. Now I understand the main difference between the H2n and H4n are options and the H4n pro is a greatly improved version. I would like the option to be able to mount it to my DSLR so I think that means scrapping the Zoom H2n, right? The H4n and pro version have XLR inputs so you can use an external mic with it. My questions about these are: Basically how this works. What is the role of the Zoom h4n pro in this, why would you use an external mic with it? What is the purpose of using an external mic, on a Zoom h4n pro, on a DSLR? I've watched many reviews, and the H4n pro seems like the best option out of these with more options for the future.. but I would basically like a bit more information and confirmation as to how this all works, from someone with experience before I make the purchase.

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Hi EvilYakuza, thanks for the question. The most important thing to getting high quality sound is to get the microphone close to the sound source. That's why camera microphones, whether built-in to the camera or mounted on top, do not generally produce the best results. Another factor is the quality of the microphone and the other circuitry that amplifies the sound and converts it to digital. In cameras, these are not usually very high quality. That's where the H4n Pro comes in. It is better on each of these than most camera microphones. So I would say first priority is to get a decent microphone closer to the sound source. For dialogue which is what I record in most cases, I use this method with a RODE VideoMic Pro into a recorder or even into the camera: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/irt1oLRzv7HTcqc.html Then if you really want to improve your sound, a recorder with a high quality XLR based microphone would be the next step. There's a ton of information scattered throughout my playlist: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rMt0a6WHvbyXfKc.html Best wishes!

@zbyszekolko3998 7 жыл бұрын

Is the "academic test" of checking noise floor you talk about a kind of standard procedure? How to make it repeatable with other hardware? I do worry of different generator levels causing different preamp gains. Another question - can you check round trip latency when used as usb interface? Thank you for the test - very useful and proffesional!

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Zbyszek, thanks. The test was a practical test and is not necessarily reproducible unless you have the same microphone, cable, and studio. :) It was pretty much just meant as one example of what can be achieved with the H4n Pro. Unfortunately I had to send the unit back to B&H so I don't have it on hand to test latency when used as an audio interface. I would expect it to be on the average to long latency end of the spectrum relative to other dedicated interfaces.

@alaskanfrogman 5 жыл бұрын

Mr. Judd, thanks for the informative video review. I'm not a fan of your "Hey Guys" introduction. To me, that's just too much of an "amateur" approach intro to videos. However, your review was very well presented. I'm somewhat hard of hearing and my ears are not attuned to the silent recording segments as yours, so I'm not able to distinguish silence in audio recordings too well. I appreciate the comparison between the original h4n and the h4n-pro review in this video. You answered a lot of questions I have about my h4n. I knew most of the features already, but your review helped solidify that bit of knowledge and was an excellent refresher for me. I've not been using my recorder and it lay around pretty much ignored for sometime. My need to record and capture audio has resurfaced so it was important for me to defamiliarize myself with my h4n digital recording device. Mr. Mark Hunter was correct in his observation about your audio being slightly out of sync. It is more than slight, and is a moderate synching issue. There is a visible delay between the video and you speaking. It isn't so noticeable when you aren't on camera and is not much of a concern. But when you are on camera, the delay between your voice and the video footage is obvious and a bit of a distraction. If I am doing dialog, or monologue recordings, I like to sync them up by using a good old tried and true "Clapper Board," to create a loud noise between the onboard mic of a video camera and my external audio recorder. I've still not seen anything that works nearly as well, nor as effectively to synchronize external audio sources with video footage. Still, aside from the amateur "Hey Guys" intro and the slightly out of sync audio, it's an excellent and very informative video. Thank you for that and peace to you.

@curtisjudd 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. If only I had a time machine and could go back to fix the issues, I certainly would. Best of wishes on your recordings.

@jrtavora 4 жыл бұрын

Dear Curtis, congrats for your videos. Really well done and pedagogic! I Have a question that belongs to my son that is coming now to become a wedding videographer and must face a real challenge. How capture a audio from a Dj`s mixer. As far as we do know the gain signal from the mixer could be a mass for some recorders like H4n and others if you do not know how to handle it. Searching web I got tips recording with Tascam D40 that has an option of setting a second track in lower gain ( -12db) while recording to deal with picks and clipping. What is the best approach in your opinion recording from a mixer with Zoom H4n and Tascam D40/ D60 and get decent audio quality? Thanks for any help!

@curtisjudd 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Rubens, this video should help: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iuCdZqplm9XeqIU.html

@davyfbkk 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Curtis, I have been following you for quite a while and really enjoy they way you present. So a couple of questions for you: I had the H4n and had to have the on/off switch replaced on two occasions which cost $60 each time, which was very bad. Also the battery cover attaching points broke as well, so quite disappointing. Do you know if the new pro version has upgraded the switch and battery cover?

@curtisjudd 6 жыл бұрын

Hi David, It appears to me that there has been no change to the power switch or the battery cover, unfortunately. Thanks!

@davyfbkk 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Curtis, That's what I thought by watching these reviews. For a bit of background; I was teaching video productions at Stamford Uni in Bkk and both of their units did not last very long before the on/off switches and battery covers broke and it's quiet disappointing that such a well know audio recorder, is let down by poorly designed important parts. I am considering buying the H5, but I think it also uses the same power on switch. However, thanks so much for all your very helpful videos.

@curtisjudd 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks David. Yes, these handy recorders aren't the most robust for rough and tumble filmmaking, probably better suited to lighter weight jobs. The Zoom F4/F8 or Sound Devices MixPre are more expensive but both far more robust in terms of build.

@tonywilding9137 Жыл бұрын

Hello Curtis, thanks for the many reviews. Just wondered about the H5 preamps compared to those in the H4n pro, is there much difference? Which gives the best performance? Kind regards Tony

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

Hi Tony, I don't have an H5 on hand to do a formal comparison, but from the specs, they supply a bit more gain from what I remember. I wouldn't expect a HUGE difference, they're quite similar from my limited experience with the H5.

@tonywilding9137 Жыл бұрын

@@curtisjudd Many thanks. For the price difference (less than £30 GBP) with the expansion available it may be the H5 to replace my original H4n (on/off switch failed). Thanks again. Kind regards Tony

@gardien340 7 жыл бұрын

I never understood why the combination of the H4n and the NTG-2 became so popular. I bought them too 4 yrs ago because everybody seemed to use them. I was absolutely disappointed. If you don't use a pre-amp it combines the weak points of both items: the pre-amps of the Zooms are quite crappy and the sensitivity of the NTG-2 is very low (15.00mV @ 94 dB SPL). The sound of the NTG-2 is good but from my experience the maximum usable distance it about 2ft from your talent because of this low sensitivity. If you are more distant you have to push the H4n into a lot of noise. I sold both and went for a Roland R26 with a Sennheiser ME-66. I shot hundreds of interviews and statements with, sometimes I even use it as on camera mic. I never did it regret it for a second.

@Pikmeir 7 жыл бұрын

I currently record my lav with the Tascam DR-05. But I got a gift card to B&H and am thinking of getting a 2nd recorder for doing video with 2 people. Would it be worth it to upgrade to something like the H4N Pro for the 2nd recorder? Or the H5? Or do you think I should upgrade to the Tascam DR-40? Or is there something better in that affordable range? Or should I just get a 2nd DR-05? Lol. Hard to pick. I know I can spend $600~$800 and get a more professional one but this is for KZfaq and small productions only so I was hoping $250 or under. Would appreciate any input you have. I don't mind spending a bit more for a significant improvement over the DR-05, but don't want to just waste money either. I also don't really notice much difference myself because I've never done a full comparison of how the DR-05 is sounding.

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

The 3.5mm inputs on the Zoom H1 are a little cleaner than the DR-05 in my experience so that may be worth considering. If you're not planning to use XLR inputs, the H4n Pro and above are probably overkill. I hope that helps!

@henrikolsen5 4 жыл бұрын

I don't have a stereo mic available, or two suitable mics for manual X, XY or similar setup. I only have a stereo mic in a DSLR or in the original H4N. If doing ambient sound, I'd like it to be stereo (although it has to approximately match direction of camera, in case it's taken async to video). As the H4N has some rather unimpressive preamps, but does have a set of stereo mics, would it be possible, and a good idea, to somehow use those with an available MixPre (better preamps)? How would you hook it up? Other tips for recording background ambience? Thanks.

@curtisjudd 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Henrik, Unfortunately, I don't know how to take the H4n's mics and feed them directly through better preamps since they are wired in to the H4n. You could, however, potentially use a similar XY mic array into the Zoom F series recorders, but I think the preamp is in the mic module so that would still get you the same results. You might consider using a stereo microphone like the RODE NT4.

@SerLaama 7 жыл бұрын

Question: I'm thinking of getting a Zoom or similar system for recording performances (both live and "studio") of classical music - mainly solo instruments and small ensembles, perhaps larger ensembles such as orchestras and choirs as well. Should I get a Zoom and an external mic or another kind of setup? And if a Zoom + external mic is the best solution, what kinds should I get? I'm thinking of spending around 300-400 € on the equipment, though 400 isn't an absolute limit. I'm a student so I'd rather not spend egregious amounts of money on the equipment, but money isn't so tight that I would like to make huge compromises in the quality.

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

I would start with a Zoom H4n Pro, H5, or H6 and see how you go. Positioning the recorder will be the most critical thing you'll want to experiment with to get the sound you'd like. You can always add an external microphone or two at a later date. Best wishes!

@itsjive8999 6 жыл бұрын

I thought I was going crazy...love the review btw but without any sort of ambience in the background my head was hurting for some reason.

@curtisjudd 6 жыл бұрын

Sorry about that!

@itsjive8999 6 жыл бұрын

no worries dude. keep up the good work!

@jonatanguitar 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for a great comparison! Slightly off-topic but is it possible to use the built-in effects (say, reverb) when the H4n is used as a sound card to the computer?

@curtisjudd 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, but the sample rate is limited to 44.1kHz when you use the effects while in Audio Interface mode. I hope that helps!

@jonatanguitar 7 жыл бұрын

Aha I see. Nonetheless, thanks!