"you rise with the moon, I rise with the sun" BRO CMON 😭😭

I love seeing men support zutara. Those are green flags lol

I always found it weird when people say Zuko and Katara would have a volatile relationship. Once Katara forgave Zuko, we literally do not see them have any other negative interactions. They sit together at the play, they train together, they give each other advice and comfort, and they save each other’s lives. On the other hand, IMO, when they weren’t making out, most of Mai and Zuko’s interactions were pretty negative. Mai was apathetic and dismissive towards Zuko’s efforts and feelings, and Zuko’s insecurities and inner turmoil always seemed to be brought to the surface by Mai. Katara and Aang’s last dialogue in the show is literally an argument where Aang yells at Katara and storms off before the comet. They never make up on screen before the finale kiss.

Aang repeatedly dismissed and belittled Kataras anger even though it is a central part of her character and element. Zuko was the first to actually take her anger seriously

What I love about Zutara is they see each for who they truly are, both the darkness and lightness. They don't run away from their issues they talk it out. They also reciprocate each other it's not Katara constantly being Zuko's therapist, PR person, and she doesn't have to dim her light so Zuko can shine. Nor does he feel entitled to her time and emotions. Katara doesn't dismiss Zuko feelings. She doesn't boss him around as if he's her servant. She trust his instincts. They also see each other's pain and trauma without lecturing each other about how they should process that pain.

I’m saying this as someone who was a Kataanger all throughout the series airing, Zutara is by far the superior ship. As a kid, I shipped Kataang, but as I got older and gained a better understanding of relationships, writing, story, and characters, I saw just how heavily flawed and incompatible Kataang was and how Zutara was vastly superior and made so much more sense, and so I jumped ships. Zuko and Katara know, understand, and relate to each other better than anyone else in the show. They stand as equals who make each other better people and help one another grow. There was chemistry between them throughout the show (which the creators said they deliberately put in there), and even though I was a Kataanger and very anti-Zutara at the times, when Katara healed Zuko after their fight with Azula, I fully expected them to kiss and was surprised they didn’t. Katara had such a better and brighter future with Zuko than with Aang. She could have gone on to do great things, help bring the nations together and establish peace, even be a symbol of unity, harmony, and balance as Fire Lady despite being Water Tribe. Even from a political standing, it made sense for them to wed. Literally everything was there and worked perfectly for them as a couple and with a great future together. I actually took a writing course, and the way Zutara plays out literally aligns with how most modern romances novels do. Plus, they look really good together. With Kataang, though, the relationship was heavily flawed, with Katara only showing 3 brief instances of any interest in Aang romantically throughout the enter series, and after they occurred, her behavior doesn’t change towards him at all, as if those moments never happened, and she continues to treat him like a son/little brother. Aang borderline stalks her and basically makes a claim on her without her consent, and constantly pressures her into returning his feelings. He even forces a kiss on her after she told him she was confused and didn’t want a relationship with everything going on with the war (that’s called sexual assault). The relationship really isn’t healthy. Aang is almost dependent on her and makes so many decisions that simply revolve around having her with him; he even chose to sacrifice the world and/or innocent people on more than one occasion because he wanted her more. And sure, I’ve heard the argument that Aang is just a kid and so doesn’t understand relationships and will mature, but that’s my point, Kataang wasn’t the epic romance Kataangers pretend it is. Even in the post-series comic with them as a couple, uch, it’s horrible. Their dialogue with each other and the way they interact with each other is just… no. It’s not cute, or romantic, or attractive, or sexy, or even wholesome, it’s super cringy. And Katara becomes even more motherly and determine to please Aang in literally everything he wants and decides, even if she disagrees with him, just because she wants him to be happy. And look where she ended up. She becomes a baby-making stay at home mom/housewife whose best known for her healing (the very thing she fought Pakku against being stuck as). That’s like a woman fighting to get out of the kitchen just to turn around and go into the kitchen. She could have had so much potential, become a great master Waterbender, done so many great things, but no. Instead, she gets so little recognition that she’s the only member of the GAang that doesn’t get a statue of her, even though she was the one to defeat Azula. She deserved so much better. And all this isn’t just me bashing the ship or expressing my opinion. We SAW how dysfunctional and broken their family life was in Legend Of Korra. I’m sorry to say it, but Aang is a bad father. He overly-pressured Tenzin and forced everything he wanted on him and openly favored him while completely neglecting and ignoring his other two kids to the point where they all become resentful of him and of each other and held grudges they never get over and having their family divided and estranged. This can all point back to Katara never stepping up to address Aang’s behavior since she’s always mothering him and just wants him to be happy, so now their kids suffered greatly because she never did anything about the way Aang was treating them. This just shows how incompatible they are as a couple. It was even stated that despite becoming an adult, Aang never grew up (yet they tried to push the idea that Katara found that endearing), and that’s likely due to Katara always mothering him and being the adult, so he never had to grow up. Katara doesn’t need a little boy that she’s always catering to for a partner though, she needs a man, an equal. So we saw for ourselves just how poorly Kataang worked out and how so much of Katara’s potential was wasted when she could have had so much more with Zuko. I don’t think that’s how the writers intended Kataang to be, but if you actually look at it, that’s what happened. So I’m sorry to all the Kataangers, but Zutara is vastly superior and makes so much more sense in literally every way. You’re free to ship Kataang all you want, power to you, but it falls way short of Zutara and what could have been, especially compared to what we saw the result of Kataang was in LoK. Kataang may have been the canon ship, but Zutara is the better one. So much potential lost for a poorly written and undeserved “hero gets girl” trope. Zutara has unlimited potential that has so many good things possible for both Katara and Zuko, while Kataang, well, we saw how problematic that ended up being. Rant over.

Zutara will remain superior, them salty kataangers proves it

Zuko & Katara definitely should’ve ended up together, plus since Fire is opposite of water and air is opposite of earth, Aang & Toph should’ve also ended up together

I always saw Aang as the reason why the perfect love doesn't exist besides being seen as the ultimate avatar of the franchise. Katara and Zuko share similar points of view from the eyes of different nations. Hatred turned into love. Apparently fireboy and watergirl is just a myth.

so uh yeah this is my own mini essay on my opinion (which often coincides with urs) We've seen romantic hints and tension between Zuko and Katara, it being mutual rather than Aang's continued affections and Katara's mixed feelings. When Katara sought out the man who killed her mother, Zuko didn't advise her against or for anything. He simply let her be her own person, knowing that different people deal with their emotions differently, rathe than Aang, who continued to force his beliefs onto her. (It's the same with his affections) The main theme of the show is overcoming the chains of the past. What better way than to put Zutara together as a beacon for peace? Katara's the one always giving affection, always being there for everyone. Zuko listens to her trauma, and for once, she was the one being comforted. Maiko and Kataang fell flat in a storyline standpoint. Aang is very attached to Katara. VERY ATTACHED. He sees her from an angelic point of view. She's flawless and a beacon of hope in his darkest moments. Which is fine, until you realise you really don't have emotional connection between the two, and considering there's a whole episode on overcoming that attachment. Zuko's the first person Katara's really opened up to, and him her. They relate to each other and understand each other's moral values. They wouldn't be so perfect for each other if Mai's obvious emotional disconnect and lack of understanding wasn't there. They wouldn't be so perfect for each other if Aang's clear lack of philosophical similarity and lack of hurt wasn't there. The first time Zuko opened up to Mai, she yawned, and told him she didn't really care. When he's conflicted about going to a war meeting, she brings up the last time he went to one, and basically told him that his emotions aren't relevant because it could be so much worse. It's the same with Katara. What did Aang do when she wanted revenge? Forced his philosophy onto her. What did Aang do when she said she was confused? Tried to kiss her. Whichhhhhh brings me to my next point :) (Yes it's the cavern scene.) The scene in the crystal coves brings a striking resemblance to the ~secret tunnel~ scene. - The lovers separated by war, their colors were literally red and blue - The crystals (duh) But what makes this scene different than the first and more important? The difference between Katara's reactions. In the ~secret tunnel~ scene, Katara kisses Aang (a physical act) and runs off like it's nothing. In the cavern scene, however, she bonds with Zuko, understanding his trauma, understanding that they share a moral compass. When Katara leaves, this time, she lingers, and you could see how much it hurt her to part ways with him, the only person who truly understood her. She made an emotional connection, which cements itself deeper than any physical act can. Aang and Katara's relationship lies with pretty declarations of love and physical gifts. Zuko and Katara's relationship would lie in the wounds they carry, and the sense of peace and calm they bring each other. And for a final point, Kataang always felt a little... forced. Like the protagonist got the pretty girl at the end. Zutara felt natural, especially that Zuko was beginning to see the world outside of the stereotypes, and marrying a waterbender would've made the arc perfect. The best ships actually help the character's development and the plot, so Zutara would've completed both Zuko's arc (stepping out of the stereotypes) and Katara's arc (forgiving the Fire Nation). And also Aang's plot of letting go of his affections. but uh yeah sorry that the essay was super long but zutara is definitely better than kataang, even tho i ship kataang a little.

I agree with the points you made. I would like to add that Zuko is Katara's type. If we look at the previous boys Katara should interest in, there is a pattern. Correct me if am wrong but I believe Katara showed interest in three boys throughout the series. The first two were Jett and Haru. What do these boys have in common? They are strong, tall, responsible, and have a dark past. Each boy was hurt badly by the Fire Nation which caused them to seek strength and burn with hate. Despite them not like talking about the past, they readily open up to Katara. If these traits are what Katara is looking for in a man, then a certain scarred firebender is her cup of tea. But wait a minute, I did mention three boys. The third boy is completely different than the others. If you guessed Aang, then you are correct. Katara did show interest in Aang a couple of times; however, it was mostly due to Aang being the only boy around. Most of the time, Katara thought of Aang as a younger sibling.

OKAY, OKAY. YES. Zukos personality matches his element, fire. On a deeper level, though, his personality matches the way HE SEES fire. In the beginning, fire is just a destructive force. It's the cause of his scar, of the war, of thousands of deaths, and of pain. As Zuko continues on his arc, though, he begins to see fire as warmth and as life. That reflects in his personality, making him simultaneously the opposite and parallel of Katara, which is part of why I think they'd make a great couple. I think if Zutara was cannon, there wouldn't really be many people shipping Kataang. Most of the people shipping Kataang ship it because it's cannon, and wouldn't have really thought of it if it weren't.

Finding my way back to this video after watching the live action because the zutara obsession has risen AGAIN

While there’s nothing against the avatar having a love interest, I think the fans and characters were done a disservice by Kataang. Aang’s final chakra was blocked by his attachment to Katara. He absolutely needed to let go of his love for Katara, and doing so would’ve made a much more powerful moment in the finale. Aang has a seemingly unique position amongst other avatars: he has to oversee the end of a long, devastating war and help the world heal and find harmony. Having a wife/family would honestly slow him down. Katara would forever live in his shadow, unable to live her own life and have her own happiness. I feel like she would have the ability to get that with Zuko.

Zutara…..YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!!!!

My version of the ships forever!: Zuko x Katara Aang x Toph Sokka x Suki (And there are still people who say PERFECT ships are impossible! 😂)

As someone who grew up with Avatar on Tv I had always enjoyed Kataang and never thought much on other ships of the show outside of Sukka (Sokka x Suki) until later on -with some help -and rewatching in my teeen-adult years I started to see how developed Zutara really was and only to fall for it more and more. I never actually hated any ship around the Avatar team but I do agree that I never have seen the appeal of Maiko. Mai would always aggrieved me at a young age and this ship never made any sense to me, where at least I knew that Kataang had bit more understanding. But now I cannot get enough of Zutara and though I don't do any of the shipping around Kataang doesn't mean I won't stop people to enjoy whatever ship they chooses. Cause while there are some moments of Kataang gets me on edge but overall I don't mind seeing the small moments of them either. In a way neutral on both Katara ships but personally favor Zutara more. ❤️

Imagine the creators make another show thats exactly the same as it but with 2 changes, katara and zuko are together and togh and aang, ilove zatara

Thank you for doing this video with so much details 🙌🏼 It just proves the potential they had to be an amazing couple even in their universe it would’ve been historical. Upsets me how the creators wasted this 😩

I will always be mad about this bc it was all for the sake of romance, WHICH WAS NEVER ONE OF THE MAIN THEMES OF THE SHOW. Kataang does such adisservice to both characters: Aang needed to be seen as the perfect nice guy who was never wrong, so he never got to grow and mature while Katara basically gets stripped of her agancy and distinctive traits. And since they weren't satisfied enough, they even butchered Zuko in the process, making him act out of character in some scenes of book 3 just to make him look bad so people would stop shipping him with Katara. In my opinion, permanent couples in a show in which the majority of the cast are teenagers were not needed at all. What was really important was their friendship and the found family they created.

I dont think Toph and Aang _should_ be together because Toph is not a relationship person or endgame person, just based in the current series theres nothing that says Aang and Toph can be anything romantic. Maybe you could develop them into being that, but as things stand theres basically no potential for them. However I think Aang could be with Ty-Lee or someone completely new like an Air acolytes from the comics!

Zutara is one of the reasons why ATLA should have gotten a book 4: air. It doesn't even have to be post-war/comet event. The comet can return by the end of fall instead of summer. That should provide plenty of time to tie up every last loose end before the final battle and for Zuko and Katara to spend more time together. As for Aang, he and Azula can have their own "enemies to friends to lovers" build-up but it is longer and far more complicated than the build-up for Zutara, naturally, one that I don't think season 4 would have enough room for (depending how its written) so the series ends with them being just friends but leaves enough teases for us to believe they'll be endgame lovers sometime in the future.

Profound reading of the story's message. I am very much in agreement, and it was deeply fulfilling to watch. Thank you.

Zuko and katara suppose to be together fire is the opposite to water and zuko and katara both lost their mum when they are kids

I'm partial to Sokkla myself, you're welcome to fight me over it.

Jake long and Rose getting together is the closest thing to it being canon

I always felt Avatar was Zukos story. It really just featured the gaang

2:50 lmao, if it was anyone else, he would have probably blown them across the desert

Kutara moral direction would guide zuko both are passionate

Guys I know aang didn't seem like he did lot for kattara but for aang to save her he was willing to forget her completely

I love thinking about what might have happened if Zuko was healed in the cave under Ba Sing Se. I think Katara would have felt personally responsible for showing Zuko how to be better because they both lost their mothers to the fire nation. I think if that had happened then Zutara would have been cannon.

CLEARLY THAT IS WHAT'S MEANT TO BE

Praise be, IchiRuki clips! As soon as you referenced my OTP, I insta subscribed. Zutara and IchiRuki forever! 🎉😂😢💔

So interesting fact, Zutara was supposed to be cannon, and I love that I know this, however, Nickelodeon or whoever at the time couldn't see the prince of the Fire Nation falling in love with a peasant from the Water Tribe. If you think about it that's completely ridiculous because if we take the Northern Water Tribe and use it as a parallel, Sokka and Katara, The chief's children, would be considered royalty like Yue, except the Southern Water Tribe has less resources then the North because the Fire Nation took all the waterbenders except for Katara.

Aang and Katara are only together because otherwise Aang wouldn't have no one. They don't belong together their dynamic is just weird. :( Zuko and Katara would make so much sense and Aang could be a bridge to unite what is not suppose to be.

Aang was the avatar so he deserves the girl he always had a crush on. Zutara was toxic katara threatening zuko give me one reason that you might hurt aang and you won't have to worry about your destiny ends right then and there permanently. Plus it wouldn't make sense kataang was going to be end game from the start all the kisses she gave aang on the cheek. Plus she was the only one who could calm aang down when he's at his worst. He entered the avatar state when katara in trouble. He even gave up his chakra for katara once she was in trouble and went straight to katara. Zutara wouldn't make sense because there wasn't even a built up for zutara no romance it was only the cave scene and then it was gone zuko betrayed and went to his sister side. Aang and toph heck no toph wasn't even a attractive to attract aang plus he knew katara longer than toph. There was always a built up with aang and katara. And more chemistry. You just like zuko and katara because there looks oh they have chemistry because they both lost their mom's. They barely interact the only time they interact is when zuko trying to capture aang. And season 3 he joined the group katara hates his guts so they go on a trip to find katara mom killer. And boom katara forgives zuko. But katara never even showed romance towards zuko where was it oh there wasn't any. That's why it wouldn't make sense. Aang is the hero he's the avatar he already chosen his girl when he first met her love at first sight katara was confused about her feelings for aang but realized she really cares about aang and she always has.

5:22 that's called Bromance, I'd like to add here Zuko&Aang as well 😊

There are some nice parallels to draw between the characters sure, but there's nothing else to go on.

I agree

I never bought Katang to be honest. Zutara had way more depth and was interesting. I also shipped Tokka even if it wouldn't have worked much in the show's base timeline but more as a post story thing.

Putting these two together is a cheap way of rectifying the injustice that the writers gave us with the poor character building between aang and katara romantically, zutara would have destroyed mei's character arc, destroyed aangs character arc, and created an unsatisfying depressing ending for aang, the only thing that it could potentially rectify is kataras emotional development but that would be fixed way easier if katara would have just gotten an episode where we explored her emotional state.

Great vid. What show is it @4:40

I mean I honestly don’t mind that katara ended up with aang but at the same time I feel like they act more like siblings while Zuko and katara truly understand each other because they both were lost and depressed! Zuko and katara both lost their mom in a different way and I feel like they would definitely support each other through the good and the bad while aang is just like oh okay let’s have peace now and plus I can’t stand Mai because she treats Zuko like shit 💩

Katara is roadkill for zuko. He needs a little toxicity and trash talk. For lack of a better phrase , edge. I honestly their character ares kinda end the path of their relationship. Hes not wounded anymore and shes not conflicted over her own anger. I thought those relationship dynamics were good when i was younger but its not going to keep the balance in the relationship

funny how majority of the kataang supporters here in the comments are men...mh i wonder why...

I honestly don't realize see myself with Katara, to be honest.

No, the problem is that their personalities are TOO similar. They are also both traumatized, they can't fix eachother.

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Okay I fucking hate aang and sokka is you know, so zutara wins by technical KO. Then again I am not a shipper, but an avid Friend-ship enjoyer.

I get they have chemistry but there wasn't enough of it in the series for me.

Blud katara xaang is canon, please read and look at it caredully at the show, aangbrings out the best of katara always encouraging her and stuff and katara even said herself she likes aang!, at the finale they are now 16 and 14 they kiss , and then have a famliy later on, YE SIK AANG ISYOUNGER THEN KATARA BUT AANG , AND U M8GHT SAY" KATARA IS MORE MATURE THEN AANG" bro......is not that hes immature, is because thats his personality, 2nd , oatara said herself she liked aang for who he is, and aang is growing more mature and m9re aware in the recent episodes , like look at the final episodes of book 3 , hes much more mature and aware , so much so that he became more mature then katara, u cna gap all u wnat about how zutara was better then kataang but katang wil always stay CANON 3rd, zuko brings the worse out of katara, 1 time zuko tried encouraging katara to commit genocide from what i HEARD , and u might sya that zuko helps katara more then aang, well ye sthats true but zuko was mwnt to help katara,is so that zuko cna make up for that he killed katara's mother , overall aang is better[no offense]

Aye

Having rewatched the whole series once again recently, and paying close atention to this particular topic, i withhold my position that Zutara doesn't make ANY sense. Let me explain: While i'm not a "Kataanger", the way the show ended didn't rub me in the wrong way in the slightest. I do get the counter points to the existence of Kataang, but saying Katara should've ended up with Zuko, considering the script AS IS, doesn't hold water. See, usually, "Zutara" people address this topic from a "wow, they would match each other really well, given their personalities and decisions they tend to make" standpoint, but i find this way of approaching things problematic, to say the least. I mean, if you're gonna go down this path, then you can extend this to each and every character in the show, because it's just about possibilities, and the free will of the creators, of course. Heck, i've even seen someone make a strong case for Aang and Mai ending up together. People that approach the topic with this mindset, always forget about one, very obvious thing: build up, or at least some sign in the story that even slightly hints something more happening between a potential couple. They stay in the realm of possibilities, listing all the characteristics they think that match between the two, and forget that NEVER ONCE in the whole series, there's any, none, zero, nada, build up or hint between Katara and Zuko. If you doubt what i'm saying, just go watch the show, you'll find nothing. What might, and probably will happen, is your emotions taking over, and you start shipping Zutara all over again, which will make you forget to pay attention to the absolutely nothing that's happening between the two of them. I find Kataang to be the extreme opposite of this situation; Although unilateral on Aang's side for the most part, the hints between Aang and Katara do exist since the very first episode. It might not please many, but the build up of Kataang exists, it's undeniable. Does it have lots of flaws? Yes. Do they match each other? Debatable. But there's a build up. One more time, i say: If you're just going down the path of possibilities, it's okay to just come up with anything you think makes more sense than what actually happened in the series, but if you watched the whole show AS IS, and came to the conclusion that Katara should've just ended up with Zuko, you're trippin.

Yeah no. Katara and Zuko had a good moment after months of him hunting her and her friends. Then he betrayed them, almost causing Aang to die. While she may have accepted him and gives him her trust she would probably never be able to get over Ba Sing Se.

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yap yap kataang better

Naruto and Sakura should be together!

I don't think Katara should have ended up romantically linked to the guy who tried to burn down her village and terrorized her, relentlessly. Zuko redeemed himself, no doubt, but they had too much of a past for their relationship to be anything other than platonic.

How can you say this kataang Is better than zutara

guys kataang happened get over it I do have to admit zutara makes sense but aang got the girl and got married point ended

Nah man Aang and Katara are literally SPIRITUALLY BOUND TOGETHER Zutara feels more like a passionate fling than anything

Zuko is the Crowned Prince. He has to marry a pure fire bender, if not that child cannot claim a right to the Throne. Imagine a fire Lord who is a water bender. Dishonour on you! Dishonour on the royal family! Dishonour on the nation!

Bruh because is from fire and water believe is good argument 😂 zutara fans is literally stupid with aang clear build up better way better moments better themes better all+they never compliment each other romantic bruh😂

zutara lost its time to let go

Zuko & Katara really didn’t have that much chemistry that Zutara shippers hype it up to be, it’s the whole opposite attracted. Aang & Katara was alway gonna happen, the story is developed that way, the creators of the show always intended for it to happen. I admit that Zuko & Katara have their moments, but Zutara is like Sokka & Toph. Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, personally I think the only reason people ship the two is because people view Aang like a little brother to Katara and the whole Zutara is probably more exciting to them (enemies to Lovers). I think the creators in an interview about the subject really sums it up perfectly: Q: There were several allusions to Katara being Zuko's girlfriend throughout Season Three. Aside from Uncle Iroh, she seemed to be the first person to see the potential good in Zuko. Was there ever a spark between the two? Was there ever a point which you thought they would end up together? Mike: Sorry to disappoint the "Zutara" fans out there, but we never intended for Zuko and Katara to get together. Maybe we're just sentimental, but we always had a soft spot in our hearts for "Kataang". Bryan: Zuko and Katara might have shared some sparks, but sometimes there are people along your "journey of love" who are there to teach you about yourself and what you really need, but don't necessarily end up being your partner. Come on, kids! "Zutara" never would have lasted! It was just dark and intriguing.

This ship really requires the twisting of certain scenes and the actions of the two characters to actually see it. That's already a fail.

The only way zutara would “work” is by grossly mischaracterizing the characters and by purposefully misinterpreting the canon story. There is 0 romantic interaction or interest between these two characters. They were barely friends by the series end. And by the time Katara forgave Zuko, she was already clearly in love with Aang. You people can ship whatever you want, but quit acting like this ship would work within the actual show itself because it literally would not. And trying to pretend that kataang was somehow bad or not developed and being entitled saying your crack ship would be better, is so off the mark.

NO AANG AND KATARA

Nope

Katara obviously chose Aang and they later got married & had 3 kids which they named Bumi, Kya, & Tenzin. End of story. Get over it you whiners.