@moriel6890 sabban who mentioned Any of that?? I didn't even say I was pro Zutara all I was pointing out was that I believe a lot of people misinterpret that part of the episode. Assuming Zuko is feeding Kataras Dark side but he isn't. He was just doing what Iroh did with him letting Katara sort out her journey on her own.

@moriel6890 sabban ??? I mean technically speaking there will be 2 Canons Live action show canon and Original show canon. Zutara could be Canon to the Live action show. But it will never be canon for the Animated show

​@moriel6890 sabban Yes, remember when Katara and Zuko were enemy combatants on opposite sides of a war and had no real relationship to speak of during Book 1? Remember how you Zutara antis all insist on ignoring how their relationship actually evolved with Katara and Zuko becoming close friends, the defining moment of which saw Zuko *_laying down his life for her_* and Katara in turn bawling her eyes out at seeing him alive? Also, it's safe to say Zuko was especially jealous and angry in _The Beach_ bcuz lmao the man was suffering a crisis of morality and was partly losing his mind, as well as being unsure as to where he stands with Mai, Mai having spurned his previous gifts earlier on in the episode.

exactly right. what i saw in the southern raiders was zuko actually being a HEALTHY partner for katara, supportive and accepting and non-judgmental. aang was on his pedestal like immediately and even sokka couldn't put himself in katara's shoes. yes sokka lost his mother too but he wasn't the one who literally left her mother alone with a ruthless firebender, he wasn't the last waterbender that kya died trying to save, katara was. so katara is not only grieving the loss of her mother but carrying the guilt of feeling responsible for her mother's death. what she needed was not a lecture about nomadic detachment, she needed CLOSURE. zuko says as much in the episode. it's pretty damning that zuko trusts katara to confront her mother's killer and get closure without crossing that line more than aang does. just one of many reasons why zuko is way better for katara than aang.

@@dietotaku Agree with all this. I think a huge part of it that people miss about Katara's relationship with her mother is that her mother's death represented the loss of Katara's childhood and security - the same way his mother's absence did to Zuko. Katara had no one to comfort her, and became the comforter to everyone else. So yes, she did love her mother in a deeper way than Sokka, and neither him or Aang understood that. Zuko did, so he supported her.

Is Katara asking for your permission to date Aang🤣🤣 That’s the problem with Zutara shippers you make the show all about you and the characters should do what you want not want their wants hate it or not KATAANG remain the best in screen couple and it hurt you guys that your Zuko that always lose still lose in the shipping world 😜😝🤪

@@MaxzySunny Ironic how you claim that Zutarians are making the show all about them when that's exactly what you're doing. Canon or not, people can ship whoever they want, but it's Kataangers who can't stand the fact that not only people still ship Zutara at all, but that it's the more popular ship to this date (they're literally the face of the fan-preferred couple trope). And Kataang is the best popular couple on screen? That's a laugh. We saw Aang pressure Katara to respond to his feelings all throughout the series, pretty much make a claim to her and call dibs on her without her permission, even force a kiss on her when she straight up told him she was confused and didn't want a relationship with him (that's called sexual assault by the way). And if you're going to try and use the excuse that Aang is just a little kid, that only supports the fact that their ship wasn't this epic romance Kataangers pretend it is. But let's take all speculation and opinions out of the equation. We saw for ourselves just how poorly Kataang worked out in LoK. Sure, they were happy together, but Katara wastes all her potential and becomes a stay at home housewife and baby-maker, they have a very dysfunctional family where Aang over-pressured one kid and neglected the other two, so the kids became resentful of their siblings and of Aang and even Katara because she never stepped in since she's always mothering Aang and trying to keep him happy, and they're family ends up very broken where they rarely interact and have a poor relationship with each other, and then Aang dies at 60, leaving his family broken and Katara alone. That's your so-called Kataang happily ever after. These are indisputable FACTS because whole episodes addressed these issues in LoK, so your claim of Kataang being the best couple is WRONG because we saw for ourselves the results of it, and it can all be chalked up to how incompatible they are. In contrast, since Zutara isn't canon, it has unlimited potential, and Zutarains can speculate all the ways it can go down and work out even better that Kataang did since it's not burdened by the same problems, and things can work out much better for everyone where they end up even happier than they did in LoK. That's all that Zutarians do, not "make the show all about them" like yo falsely claim, but speculate on the possibilities. Kataang can't claim the same because we saw how that worked out, and not very good, as it resulted in a LOT of family problems that were never resolved. You're free to ship and favor Kataang all you want, that's your right, but stop pretending that it's this epic end-all-be-all romance when it wasn't while what could have happened with Zutara has unlimited potential that could have resulted in so many much better outcomes than what became of Kataang.

@@ViewerOnline101 🤣😂😅 Zutarains funny guys KATAANG had a broken home wow that’s what broken home is to you delusional shippers, well that’s sad to know that you are so delusional that you make up garbage to make a point. Well we all also saw the kind of romantic partner Zuko is a selfish bastard not speculating, he could not keep a partner because of his selfishness you forgot it also wear it head in the finale. Katara alongside Aang had a role and wasn’t a cheerleader go read the comic better rather than speculate what you didn’t see. Especially The Promise and Imbalances since those two are the more global involvement, please go read before you speculate.

@@ViewerOnline101 🤣😂😅 Zutarains funny guys KATAANG had a broken home wow that’s a broken home to you, is so sad you are so delusional that you make up anything to prove a point. Aang never ask or make Katara feel like a cheerleader she always had a role to play Aang formed and saved Republic of Nations along side Katara go read the comics The Promise and Imbalances for better knowledge. Well yeah you are speculating on what type of relationship or partner KATAANG is am not going to speculate it’s canon you could read it in the comics, Zuko as a romantic partner was a selfish partner that why Mai broke up with him and he was a lonely man in LOK. We even saw it with our eyes in the finale as he ask Katara to cheer him up as he fight Azula alone without considering her feelings. Well you forget Zuko attack and insult Katara not to mention Zuko’s family is the ones that order the death of Katara’s mother, that’s the family Katara should be part of it. This is why I said you guys make it all about yourself and not the characters. And you said Zutara is more popular don’t make me laugh why yeah you guys open KZfaq accounts to talk how you guys are frustrated, the Netflix live action movie did a poll on which ship should be end game guess which ship won. That’s right KATAANG we don’t cry or campaign that our ship is better because we already know so yeah that’s why you don’t see KATAANG fans making noise on social media because all we got to do is go back and enjoyed the show again.

​@@ViewerOnline101I've always felt like the lok writers had amnesia or something. Because there was absolutely no way that the Katara we knew from atla would ever let herself be discarded and made to waste away in the background like that.

I despise Zutara, BUT NOT THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT IT. Bryke making fun of the fans was wrong. It's also not economical to lose fans.

@moriel6890 sabban absolutely nothing to do with what I was saying but go off I guess

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That's a really good point! I guess I just disagree that Zuko really brought out the best in her. Glad you liked the video though 🙂

@@monkfruit Yeah I hear that - the raiders episode was really the epitome of the teenage angst that was festering in both their hearts throughout XD Though I do think that for Zuko at least - with Katara he is a lot more patient and open then when he is talking to other characters, especially taking into account that most of their pre-forgiveness dialogues started with her raging at him in true Katara fashion.

@moriel6890 sabban I get that there's bitterness - I attribute a lot of that to Bryke delcaring war on Zutara xD Why is Zutara character assassination though?

@moriel6890 sabban I have no idea what Netflix would do, but I have high hopes for that launch - also I might no mind Kataang if they handle it differently in Netflix, I believe different mediums might alter a lot of characters, character storylines & character dynamics. Regardless looking forward to it - the crew sounds really passionate about what they're making :)

@moriel6890 sabban yo, don’t need to be rude here. There’s nothing stupid in supporting one or the other. Kataraang is canon in the cartoon and there’s nothing to do with that, if they make Zutara in the Netflix series it’ll be canon for the live action and there will be nothing to do with that either

At the same time past avatars had loved ones they probably favored over all others. Unlocking the avatar state for Aang involved survival and tumultuous emotional states. I can see both ways, you don't need to listen to the advice/teachings of others if you're not feeling it. Like people who just don't feel spiritual can still accomplish their set goals without the belief in something bigger than themselves. But at the same time, this inhibits Aang's spiritual growth.

Exactly! Not everyone should be in a relationship.

Yes! I really like how Zuko never takes away Katara's agency as a person. He doesn't give her his opinion on what to do or what not to do he's just there to support her nothing more nothing less. It's a really refreshing dynamic honestly

@@Forthewin-sv4qd Yes! This exactly!

@@Forthewin-sv4qd I agree! I think my other favorite thing about the Zuko/Katara ship is that Katara and Zuko don’t see each other through rose-tinted lenses. They’ve seen the good, the bad, and the ugly from each other. On the other hand, Aang often seems to either deny Katara’s bad behaviors, or she actively hides them from him. Also I love the fact that Zuko is the one person on Team Avatar (other than Suki) that Katara has never mothered.

he didn't even really encourage her. he gave her information, and asked her what she wanted to do with that information. at every point he's checking with her to see what SHE wants to do, where SHE wants to take this. of particular note is the fact that, after he informs yon rha they weren't hiding behind the bush, he doesn't say A SINGLE WORD - not to katara, not to yon rha. he does his (defensive) firebending which is what he came along for, and then he turns the entire scene over to katara. he doesn't react to the story she tells, he doesn't try to stop her when she's throwing ice spears at yon rha, he doesn't even get a final one-liner in as they depart. because he knows that's not his place.

Zutarains you guys are funny and delusional no offense.. Zuko respect Katara decisions and never try to force or order her well let’s dive to the fact first of all Zuko siding with Katara to go murder the man that killed her mother isn’t him understanding or respect her but just ass kiss to get on her good side… After the Southern raider episode Zuko never regard Katara opinion or feelings and their are plenty of examples…Zuko stop Katara from going after Aang ordering her to let him go that he need to suite it out by himself which I agree with him on that one but that’s still him tell Katara want to do not to mention he indirectly told her to go kick rock as he wanted to face Azula alone ignoring her feelings and opinion and disrespecting her as a person… All this happened within just five episodes together as friends imagine how Zuko would treat Katara in a relationship and you act like Aang bosses Katara around and she doesn’t have a mind of her own with Aang…when their spend the full series together and Aang didn’t support her decision for once not that he didn’t understand the pain she was going through but that’s it’s not worth lose herself over to,cause Aang know Katara and want she need not Zuko so get your fact right even if you are a delusional shipper

i wish i could like this a thousand times!

THIS. Maybe Zutara wouldn't have worked out, but Aang's relationship with her was, at times, *actually toxic* It was all about what HE wanted, what HE wanted her to be. He never supports her emotionally the way Zuko did, and she and Aang had way more time for him to do so!

​@@lauraw2526 After become couple in book 4 is the most healthy relationship in the series

@@nikosmihailidis9440 All that tells me is that whoever wrote book 4 wrote a healthier relationship than what was shown in the show.

@@lauraw2526 ok

He didn’t understand what he really he needed in the zuko said aang was right. And don't pretend like zukos helping katara was fully selfless it was because he wanted her to stop hating him and projecting her anger on him. There is only one scene with possible chemistry between the two and that's from the crystal catacombs and guess what immediately after that this man was throwing flames at her. Every other interaction they've had apart from in late season 3 was toxic. If youre gonna pretend a woman or man hasn't kissed someone randomly to get their feelings expressed then I guess majority are sexual harassers. You shippers only like the idea of haters to lovers type and it's cringe. You're projecting your ideals of what love you like on to the show. Katara and aangs relationship was developed throughout the show and it was natural and in the comics it showed Katara had no romantically interest in anyone but aang. Oh and guess what Zuko was a shitty boyfriend. Oh and don't mention aang being a bad dad he wasn't he was just neglectful of his other kids because he was busy trying to reinstate the air nation with tenzin. He clearly did try to build bridges with them but they didn't want it as they said. Aang was a good dad but not a perfect one as expected. My point is zutara is toxic and only made by you wattpad readers. And it's not more popular than kataang it's just you fans are louder

​ @drsmile9489 Wow you are either wrong on SO many levels and really need to watch the series again, or you're blatantly lying and making stuff up because you hate Zutara and simp for Kataang. And based on what you've said and how you said it, I can guess which you are. As a former Kataanger throughout the first time I watched the show, but switched ships upon rewatches when I realized how flawed Kataang was and how ZUtara made much more sense, I can look unbiasedly from both sides, as even when I was a Kataanger, I still saw all this from a Zutara standing, even if I didn't ship them at the time. Zuko DID want to genuinely help Katara and do right. After his redemption, he constantly went out of his way o try and do the right thing and make up for what he did, including turning his back on his family, his nation, his whole life. Did he want Katara to stop hating him, sure, and in trying to figure out why she hated him so much, he realized what the real issue was and genuinely wanted to help. To say otherwise is a biased lie. Aang is the one who didn't understand, thinking he could just tell her to move on and forget and not trusting her to make the right decision, and likely not being willing to accept her decision, no matter what it would have been, and only allowed her to leave when he realized he couldn't stop her. His response to her when she and Zuko got back shows his lack of understanding of her and what she needed. And anyone who says that Zuara is toxic is blatantly lying and being biased. redemption, Zuko a was nothing but supportive and helpful to everyone in the GAang, and after the Southern Raiders episode, Zuko and Katara have been nothing but good for each other and made each other better people. Literally everything you said about them being toxic and sexual harassment is a lie. You want REAL toxicity and sexual harassment, look no further than Kataang. How many times did Aang all but stalk her and make a claim to/on her without her knowledge or consent or act like he had some right or claim to her, all without even discussing anything with her. Or how about his surprise kiss just before the Black Sun invasion. Or how about how he constantly pressured her into answering his feelings, despite the discomfort she felt about it or the unease. Heck, when he did pressure her into answering his feelings during the Ember Island episode, she straight up told him that she wasn't sure about her feelings and didn't want a relationship right now with everything go on, and he goes and forces a kiss on her after she just said that (THAT is literal sexual assault). Her words and body language clearly said she didn't want or was comfortable with anything, and Aang forced a kiss on her anyway, yet you're still trying to justify it and his actions, or worse, claim Zuko is the toxic one? Major red flag. But if you're going to try and make these claims about how Zutara would be toxic and sexual assault, you're just making biased speculation based on nothing, while there is actual proof that there's toxicity and sexual assault with Kataang. Even post series. Ever read the comics? Katara turns into a yes-girl for Aang, always going along with whatever he wants and decides, even when she disagrees with it. When Aang was in support of segregating the nations in the name of balance, even if it meant forcing families apart or people from their homes, she disagreed with him but said she would go along with his decision, even if that meant that they had to break up. Oh yeah, real healthy relationship right there. Even in LoK, we saw the so-called happily ever after they had. Katara basically gets reduced to a stay at home mom and baby-maker best known for her healing (the very thing she ought against Pakku not to get stuck as) instead of reahcing her true potential, and gets only a fraction of the recognition as the rest of the GAang. Their family ended up broken and dysfunctional with a great deal of resentment towards each other due to the neglect Aang showed Bumi and Kya and the favoring and over-pressuring he gave to Tenzin, and Katara just allowed it to go on because she always wanted to keep Aang happy, who was stated to never have "gown up" even in adulthood, likely a result of Katara always mothering him. Their kids held grudges against each other, towards Aang for his treatment of them, and towards Katara for never correcting this. And unlike you're claims, this isn't bias or speculation, these were literal plot points in LoK. None of this never would have been an issue with Zuko though, as it's not in accordance with his character. SO you're claims of which ship is toxic is not only wrong, it's the opposite. And no, you're wrong, Zutara is, to this day, still the more popular ship. It has been the most popular ship since the Waterbending scroll episode, surpassed only briefly after Kataang became canon, but once again became the most popular one afterwards, and has remained so ever since, and is the most popular ship of the entire show, including LoK. What more, Zutara faces off against Kataang, Maiko, Anti-Zutarians, and anyone who doesn't care about shipping and will simply vote Kataang by default just because t's canon, and it's STILL more popular. Zutara is literally the face of the fan-preferred couple trope and are, arguably, the most popular western animation ship. It's the Kataangers who are loud and obnoxious. Zutarians are passionate about their ship and express a desire to ship it and their opinon that it makes more sense than Kataaang, but it's the Kataangers who can't stand the fact that Zutara is still more popular despite Kataang being canon, and will viciously go after anyone who ships Zutara, even blatantly lie and make stuff up. You proved yourself with your response just what kind of toxic shipper you are who can't stand that people ship Zutara or that it's more popular with your false claims of toxicity and lies about their relationship in general.

@@ViewerOnline101 I'm going to respond in blotches rewatch the episode of kataras vengeance again. Zuko encouraged the idea of revenge in her and aang said she shouldn't take a life and taint her heart basically. Zuko at the end of the episode said yes aang you were right. Also if Zuko was a good influence would he have not shamed Katara for what she said to sokka about him not loving their mom as much as she did. As I respond I'm going to prove to you I've watched this show and read the comics more than you have.

@@ViewerOnline101 if you're going to pretend like Zuko didn't have terrible behavior in and out of relationships I'm going to laugh at you. Since you brought up comics was Zuko not being a creepster to mai and basically coming between her stable relationship. This is the man you want dating Katara also the man that doesn't know how to convey his feelings properly half the time no judgement I love him but he's incredibly flawed when it comes to relationships. 2nd look at the time period the show is based on. This ain't modern society you're watching this is set in a time period of estimation before world 1. So the ideologies of relationship are the same. Katara was not a yes girl. She was not afraid of having her own opinions and speaking it to aang spoken multiple times when he went into the avatar state in the comics. And the reason why it seems like she's a yes woman is because she has similar views as aang. She was also a preservationist of the old times like aang.

@@ViewerOnline101 and excuse me what do you mean she was reduced to a stay at home mom. People think of the gang as goats. Katara barely got any screen time for you to be saying such bs. And she's fricking old so yeah damn well we don't need her for fighting. She was only needed for healing so of course they referenced her as strongest healer. And I'm sorry she's dating the avatar did you expect her to be doing something else. If she dated Zuko the outcome would be the same don't start flaring at me and telling I'm making up stuff when everything I've said is factual and has been said in the comics or show. You zutarians are loud and obnoxious saying oh it was the better ship better ship. Blud they had 2 episodes of them being together and now you think they're the top ship. A better ship for Zuko would have been him and that earth bender girl in ba sing se.

Were can you find this fanfiction? I like fanfictions about the atla universe lol

Yeah there are definitely some really strong parallels between them

Well Hugoda seems to love it and is happy for his daughter…if you like tell your daughter to date that bad boy that insults her or order her around cause you ship Zutara that’s your business is your daughter that will be unhappy if she follow your advise

I love how the only reason he would save katara because she's..well... Katara😂

Yes! I've been looking for another person who noticed that contrast, the way Katara cared for Aang/(rest of the group) vs Zuko is very different and that moment in the Agni Kai is a primary example of it

😂😅😅 She rush to Zuko without putting up any defense 🤭🤣😂 how delusional can you guys get she try to help him but was stop by Azula and she defended her self with water… But with Aang she didn’t care how many enemies was there she wipe them all with water and after she catch Aang from fall she was helpless and didn’t even bother to fight anymore cause to her Aang is died and they is no point to fight… I know Zutara shippers are delusional people but sometimes by reasonable Katara only attend to Zuko after she have defeated Azula but with Aang it was immediately so yeah I see who she truly love and the fact and show back it up

@@MaxzySunny I've also been reading these comments and zutara fans are literally grasping at straws at this point, because they have nothing else to go off of in the actual show, instead of their fanfic and headcanon lmao.

@@tiltedxfn3635 their are completely delusional and made up stuff that didn’t exists to make a case for their failed ship

@@MaxzySunny Exactly, not once did they ever show emotional feelings for each other at all, they focus on what could have been, and not what actually happened within the show, nor read the comics. The cave of lovers is literally right there for them to watch lol, all their points are horrible also. They go off of one episode where zuko is trying to gain Katara's trust by helping her find her mother's killer, and they somehow turn it romantic when that's not what it was at all. Aang even encouraged her to face his mother's killer, and if aang knew how to find him, he most likely would have done the same thing to support katara.

thank you! glad you liked it :)

@@kendraroth1276 I think you have completely misunderstood what happened. And you seemed blinded by rage over… sexism? Which is… baffling. You seem to want to pick an argument over a nonexistent issue.

@@kendraroth1276 I guess just agree to disagree, because you are completely, utterly incorrect. You’re thinking of season 1 zuko who is still pretending to be a pompous royal, and hove some sort of personal issue with all the rest that… yikes…

@@kendraroth1276 you did not site any quotes from s3 that support your baseless argument

Well, I hate her 50%

But Zuko did love Mai and the last time I check you are not the one dating Mai so your feelings is irrelevant… That Line you miscalculated I love Zuko more than I fear you just said it all like her or not she was the one Zuko love

so she's the hero's trophy girlfriend?

What the heck do you mean?

@@dietotaku see this is the funny thing about Zutara shippers you bring down characters just because their not in a relationship you wanted them in like are you guys Katara father or brother? Well it’s better to be a trophy for the winner Aang that always win than to be a consolation prize for the loser Zuko that never win😝🤪😜

Did your ship crash like titanic 🤭😂😅🤣 Zutara shippers I wanted to tell you sorry but your ship crash before boarding off so keep been delusional and keep your fellow delusional members together and reminisce on what never happened BIG LOSER 🤭😂😅🤣

It's been a year, but most of the people here are going to say: Zutara. Mine is Zutara anyway. I don't agree that Zutara is "volatile" that is something Bryke would say about it, and they know nothing. After Katara forgives Zuko, they are literally the most in tune with each other. They compliment each other's skills when fighting and have amazing timing. They are both mature for their ages, they have tempers, but are able to express themselves. They raise a kid together. I am curious that you want to know what people ship considering you yourself said you aren't a shopper. Which makes me wonder, why aren't you a shipper? I don't mean go out of your way to proclaim a relationship or whatever, but you said you could have watched ATLA without any romance, save for Sokka, at all. And that's what is weird to me. These characters are supposed to be people whole, yet flawed. People get into relationships. You can't have a whole character without all aspects. Yes, these are children, but save for Aang and Toph, they're ALL teenagers. Teenagers are messy. And they're fighting a war, so passions will be higher and the urgency of "now is the time!" is heightened. So if we were real, Sokka and Suki would NOT be the only ones getting hooked up. It's been awhile, but I still remember what it's like to be one. I was a fourteen year old girl, that was decently mature for my age. And there's no way in hell Katara would get together with an immature twelve year old boy like Aang. She literally raised him with Zuko. I've mothered people in my past, cared for them, protected them. Never was romantic, not once. I've had crushes and they were always people on more equal footing. I don't see a bridge between loving someone in a motherly way and romantically loving someone. Not until the kid gets older and a third party shows romantic interest to make the mother reevaluate her feelings. The ENTIRE timeline of ATLA is a paltry YEAR. It's less thime than I thought. It makes it even more obvious that this show was written by thirty something males that don't know a thing about girls or women. Kataang is even grosser than I originally thought.🤮 And it's sad people keep pushing it without thoughts simply because that's what the creators wanted.

@@playfulpanthress Zutara is stupid as hell people just force them self on others saying what others would do that Zutara that is Zuko that you Is Katara you or her you her emotions?? Katara saw Aang save the world took her over the world yeah twelve years old kid keep being delusional

probably. it's obvious that the popularity of zutara is why we got the dumpster fire of a ship that is korra/mako in TLOK. i get the feeling that any project that doesn't deify aang as the self-insert he is will see mike & bryan depart sooner or later, and probably be all the better for it.

😂🤣😅 No that’s not the reason you guys know that the live action movie is about book one right and is been released in 2024 by the time their get to book three the actor playing Aang most have grown to the actress playing Katara… By the way their did a poll for which relationship to be endgame and KATAANG still won the poll so not to get disappointed again like the OG show did to you losers expect KATAANG cause that’s the canon ship

​@@MaxzySunny Damn straight kataang for life.

you're welcome! it was a good idea :)

Yeah definitely agree that we should've seen katara fall for Aang and seen her feelings in more depth. Avatar is a great show but I don't think they really handled the romances well

ngl kataang was weird. it ruins his story because aang was supossed to let her go to be a better avatar. but zutara was not the best move either

@@thedudeofsomethingorsometh273 no it balance his story the idea was for him to find love in a world where his kind is no more…or have you forgotten what Guru Pathid told the air nomads love for him have not left this world it was born into new love so he have to find his balance as the avatar and the last Airbender to get that love..!

well there was kind of an apocalypse going on, they didn't have time for costume changes.

yeah totally agree! that's exactly what I said in my Kataang video. I really wish we saw Kataang from Katara's perspective and saw her falling for him, it's a shame that her side of the relationship is neglected

I see your points but the Southern Raiders he mostly just realizes that Katara’s treatment of him wasn’t actually about him, he understands how deeply the trauma of her mother being taken and killed by the fire nation, so he gives her the opportunity to confront her demons, during it Katara takes the lead and Zuko follows. It’s also the first time we see that Katara is the one being comforted rather than doing the comforting. I don’t think Zuko brought out the worst in Katara, years of not confronting her trauma and always taking care of others before herself meant that it was going to come out one way or another. Also after this episode Zuko and Katara are seen to be mostly getting along to the point where Zuko confides in Katara about his worries over meeting his Uncle again and doesn’t even hesitate before choosing Katara to be by his side during the battle with his sister.

man i feel like you watched a completely different show. yeah he betrays her in COD, nobody's denying that. we're talking about the chemistry they have BEFORE that happens, how quickly katara goes from hating his guts to being willing to heal his scar with the spirit oasis water. the look of regret she gives him over her shoulder as aang jealously drags her away, and his reaction of "of course you're leaving. they always leave." his betrayal was out of desperation at getting back a life he hadn't yet realized was gone forever, or never really existed in the first place. in TSR he doesn't "have her go on a revenge quest," he accurately determines why she's hurting so much worse than everyone else, he provides information that is relevant to that pain, and he lets HER decide what to do with it. at no point does he TELL HER what she has to do - that's all aang, with his preachy "just don't be bothered by it" detachment, his patronizing "i forgive you... that giving you any ideas??" aang can't accept that his idealized romantic interest isn't all sunshine and rainbows all the time. zuko, by contrast, accepts this readily. he knows acutely the pain katara is feeling and he gives her permission to feel that pain and to express it however she sees fit. and that acceptance is exactly why she forgives him at the end - it's not about HER being the same person at the end of it, it's about her realization that ZUKO is not the same person that he was when he betrayed her. if being a calm, supportive and non-judgmental guy is bringing out the worst in zuko, and being able to express herself fully and with total validation is bringing out the worst in katara, then i pray you have a relationship as "unhealthy" as zutara.

@@dietotaku it’s you that watch a different show first of all it was Katara that immediately run towards Aang and hug him twice forgetting about Zuko and Aang didn’t say anything to Katara she just followed him and she was not romantically interested in Zuko she just wanted to heal his scar so he could be free from his curse and their could go on with their lives without him chasing after them or are you forget she also offer to heal Iroh in the chase episode when Azula attack him or is she also romantically interested in Iroh?😅🤣😂

It doesn’t have to make sense to you cause you are not Katara or Aang so your opinions doesn’t matter.. I would love to point at what make KATAANG great but you won’t accept it and just continue delusion on your headcanon but to say what doesn’t exist is the best just prove you are delusional no offense

Dude force by who? Last time I check you are not Aang or Katara so who is forcing what on you? Maybe in your country it is not normal for a 13 years old to be in a relationship but in my 14 years old could get married so don’t try to apply your belief on fictional universe

​@@MaxzySunny im sorry but theyre just saying their opinion on the shio dynamic. You might say its normal but Katara was like an older sister to Aang. She carried the burden of her dead mother and had to be the older sister to Sokka, she doesnt need a man who sees sunshines and rainbows in everything, she needs a man that knows theres angels and demons in the world. This is my opinion, youre allowed to have yours.

@@M1sh3ll_St4r well your opinion doesn’t matter cause you are not Katara and she choose the best option for her and live happily ever after so what you need to do is move on with your opinion 🤣😅😂🤭

@MaxzySunny I know it's fictional but don't you think it feels off? They're maturity doesn't match at all. And if I'm going by YOUR logic, your opinion doesn't matter either.

@@M1sh3ll_St4r well it does cause Katara is with Aang and they got married and have three children and live happily ever after so yes it matter… Can you say the same 🤭😂🤣😅

@moriel6890 sabban this person literally said they prefer kataang over zutara. what are you on???

@@somanygoodfandoms I’m not on anything and I know that the person who made this video agrees with me on Kataang but there were points in this video that I didn’t agree with and some I did and I wanted to share my own opinion on the whole Zutara vs Kataang debate

@@somanygoodfandoms you that is still ship what never exist 15 years after the show have ended what are you on cause in a serious note you are delusional to be fair… KATAANG relationship is real we can see it in our real world it’s relatable I can tell you famous people with KATAANG type of relationship but please can you point any Zutara type of famous relationship in our real world? Example Lionel Messi relationship with his wife mimic that of KATAANG Steph Curry relationship with his wife mimic that of KATAANG just to mention few so now please tell me about Zutara

@@MaxzySunny I- I don't ship Zutara 😅 never have. I was just confused about a reply (that is now deleted)

@@somanygoodfandoms if you like ship Zutara that’s non of my business… But just as the creators said it’s Toxic and some of you just like couple that argue and fight all the time cause that’s what Zutara would be like just like Korra and Mako

Well said you really understand the story you were told I really appreciate mind like yours God bless you enjoy

pedo says what 🤮

Well said the funny thing is the truth hurt so Zutara shippers try to hide from it a delusion on what never happened

Demonstrating why they are toxic would've probably have more of an impact.

And Kataang isn't?

And Maiko isn't?

@@MrMoleHole how is KATAANG toxic? Please I want to know with fact and not bias cause I can give you alot of fact that make Zutara toxic especially for Katara…

@@MaxzySunny Here are some examples. One toxic element of Kataang is it's one-sidedness. Katara does all the emotional labour whereas Aang does very little. Aang also chides Katara for wanting revenge towards her mother's killer, whilst pushing his Air Nomad beliefs onto someone who is not an Air Nomad. Aang kisses Katara without her consent and right after she expresses clear discomfort about being in a relationship atm. Kataang is not all bad, Aang and Katara do have chemistry, and they have a great friendship. I personally don't like Kataang, I also don't care for Zutara much but I believe it would be better for the story.