They might be nice, but GOOD LORD they are expensive. IMHO, prohibitively so, especially for people who are new to the hobby. They are also pretty wasteful if you just discard the other switch parts. Some people really, really overhype these. Please remember that there are (different) less expensive options out there.
@Minterly3 жыл бұрын
You make a great point! There are a TON of other options out there and MANY if not MOST people would very happy with a stock tactile at a much more reasonable price point. Browns, Naevies, Ergo Clears, T1s and all JWK tactile recolors, Box Royals, stock Halos, stock Zealios, even Holy Pandas, the list goes on. This video is definitely more of a showcase for the happy little child born between peak tactility and peak sound for those who have experimented with switches and are still unhappy with what they've tried and/or have extra funds to throw at this hobby to experiment.
@tombaker25103 жыл бұрын
@@Minterly I think a Dark jade is just as tactile and way cheaper, I did make a 67g zykos and it felt really tactile but maybe I need a 78g to truly tell the difference.
@pengu4703 жыл бұрын
@@tombaker2510 I'm gonna use dark jades but with 78g springs in the next build. (Maybe 7v?) To compare the difference.
@wesil7553 жыл бұрын
@@Minterly I kinda want tactile ones that sound great but arent crazy expensive so what do you suggest the most. tyty and love ur vids!
@user-kz9rz8ui1c3 жыл бұрын
@@wesil755 I've heard that the u4ts are good and they cost around 60¢ a switch.
@ShoobsTube3 жыл бұрын
Ever since I built Zykos, I grew 7 inches, won all my raffles, got six pack abs, and have found the love of my life. 10/10 would recommend.
@nbshftr3 жыл бұрын
7 inches 😳
@huydoan99023 жыл бұрын
No shoobs no. Gotta stick with the Holy Sh!t :)
@ShoobsTube3 жыл бұрын
@@huydoan9902 LOL
@SirTrollingham3 жыл бұрын
7 inches where ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@DG1TAL3 жыл бұрын
@@SirTrollingham At home.
@sirtoasty92933 жыл бұрын
3:12 such aggression towards that poor spring 😂
@zekeviews3 жыл бұрын
3:15 Patrick: *FIRMLY GRASP IT*
@Skip132053 жыл бұрын
My Favorite Part of the video. hahahaha
@cocacolagarlic90153 жыл бұрын
The second you started typing I was sold.
@Snoigel3 жыл бұрын
Saw this comment while watching the video, didn’t believe you till I heard it too.
@GalacticBlader3 жыл бұрын
You spelled ORGASMD WRONG
@cocacolagarlic90153 жыл бұрын
@@GalacticBlader ???
@AvRagExPhoenix3 жыл бұрын
Holy, I just put one together since i have a Zealios from a switch tester and spare drop pandas and omg they are amazing, I think you've just converted me to team Zykos
@BlabberizeYT3 жыл бұрын
How does this channel not have more subs? So much work went into each of these shots. The pans, soft focus, and even the sound is solid. Subbed.
@honeysal3 жыл бұрын
3:09 the most relatable thing I’ve seen in years
@aragami06863 жыл бұрын
why do people keep complaining about switches being expensive all while buying 3 sets of gmk?
@JosoLifts3 жыл бұрын
all fax no printer
@toasty69863 жыл бұрын
its in the name. great motherfricking keycaps
@rks54573 жыл бұрын
Who are these people?
@kaibeh3 жыл бұрын
Because it’s not worth it since there are tactile who are better for so much cheaper take tealios v2s as an example they were one of the best linears but now are just dead due to new linears being better values like jwk switches. Also for your statement about gmk keycaps they actually maintain and gain value due to how exclusive they are allowing you to resell them in the long run
@P3ktoRis2 жыл бұрын
the logical basic stuff, like dont lube the tactile bump and stuff like that. which springs eliminate tactility.... is really important to those who just started this, subbed
@pengu4703 жыл бұрын
Zykos are the reason why I have Rolexes.
@GMFan3 жыл бұрын
Getting a entire board of them are the reason I don’t lmao
@Definitely_Melnyx3 жыл бұрын
Calling them expensive would be an understatement.
@sirtoasty92933 жыл бұрын
Me: Hey this looks pretty good! Minterly: I find that 78g is the perfect spring Me: 😳 my weak fingers...
@Minterly3 жыл бұрын
Many people have told me that 67g Zykos are also nice. Might be worth a try!
@mikurej953 жыл бұрын
My fingers get fatigued with 67g 💀
@rmacias_c3 жыл бұрын
@@mikurej95 Yeah! 62g is the way to go.
@jadenngl3 жыл бұрын
@@rmacias_c dont get 62g zykos, at that spring weight zykos are not tactile to be worth
@rmacias_c3 жыл бұрын
@@jadenngl Nah, I've just bought a Niz Plum Atom 68. Let's see if it's worth the money.
@Sizzler11743 жыл бұрын
That is the best sound I have ever heard in a switch and I will take your word on the feel. Definitely adding this to my to do list for my new keeb. So glad I came across this particular video and can't wait until my new keeb is built with your franken caps. Thank you.
@xKayNee3 жыл бұрын
Boba top housing works as well, very tactile, just a tad little quieter. Love this switch.
@isaacschultz70223 жыл бұрын
Top new favorite switches. Silent alpacas, ink blacks, and zykos. I’ve always been a linear guy but these sound good af
@Keybored3 жыл бұрын
Great, comprehensive video! Love the editing. Playing around with random springs, one thing I did notice was that longer springs of the same weight always produced a stronger tactility vs the shorter version of said same weight spring. Most springs being marketed at bottom out force, doesn't take too much consideration into the potential energy differences of springs when preloaded, and it's potential impact to enhance tactility. Maybe another way to even further enhance the zykos tactility.
@Minterly3 жыл бұрын
I think testing out an even larger variety of springs would definitely be the most comprehensive/best way to play around with this switch!
@hellstone115 Жыл бұрын
For anyone watching this much later now, theirs an alternative switch called the Neapolitan switch that is based on zykos that you can buy
@ItsPlucky_7 ай бұрын
I have heard both and I think I'm still going to get these they seem to have a little more depth in tone
@heroyale81383 жыл бұрын
Videos itself smells quality subscribed.
@FredrikAuestad3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, the production quality is deliciously good. And thank you for introducing me to the Cult of Zykos! Once I finished your video I ordered the switches I needed and am currently waiting to assemble some Zykos. Thank you and keep up the good work!
@rotuh2 жыл бұрын
If you want the ultimate thock I recommend building the 🅱ykos which use the Boba top housing instead. You can also straight up use the Boba stems, making them more budget that way. They are very similar to Halo stems, but you do give up just a little in tactility for more thocc
@itsyagirlapes Жыл бұрын
Nice! I'll have to try these
@jiyan89323 жыл бұрын
The most satisfying and informational video I never knew I needed
@johnha14563 жыл бұрын
i had the pieces laying around and tried this out. i also had drop holy pandas on hand and a batch of halo clears and translucent pandas that came in today. ill say that the tactility is awesome! its a round tactile event much like the zealios instead of the "over coming the hump and then slamming into bottom out" with the drop holy pandas. the zykos is zero pretravel and zero travel after the tactile event before you bottom out. but because we are using the zealios bottom, the bottom out is less "thocky" than the typical holy panda thock. its a BIT more muted but much more thocky than the normal zealios bottom out. About 80% the thock between a zealios bottom out and a holy panda bottom out (towards the holy panda side) I would say. Also, i wanted to note that the invyr top and the bsun tops are really different. they are both polycarbonate, but the bsun top has more ping and a higher note while invyr top has a deeper sound. in short, its the switch that i always wished the zealios were. its more of a "tightly controlled" tactile event compared to the zealios which i would consider a "loose and wobbly" tactile event. and again, the difference between the panda and the zykos is taht i would describe a holy panda tactile event as falling over cliff and hitting rock bottom, and zykos would be like "driving over a speedbump that is right up against a tree."
@Zentennen3 жыл бұрын
Daaamn as soon as the sound test started I knew this was a good switch. I was a bit worried when you said the halo stems create a higher pitched sound but it actually sounds really nice. I love an extremely tactile switch as well.
@fran94203 жыл бұрын
those shots were soooo gooooood. keep it up!!
@thechientlegiant3 жыл бұрын
Got translucent pandas for this! Your video quality is getting better and better! Keep it up 👍
@Minterly3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chientle!!! 💖
@NamuSenpai3 жыл бұрын
you are a godsend, ive been looking for switches like these. thank you so much
@CDKing_3 жыл бұрын
Whoa, what?? I actually made these switches like a year ago (with Drop HP tops specifically) and big disclaimer, if you open the switches more than a couple times, the panda tops are EXTREMELY prone to cracking. I wound up destroying a whole lot of HP tops this way, lol. I eventually tried NK Blueberry stems in YOK panda housings and I love it! Practically made HP's feel linear by comparison.
@DashzRight2 жыл бұрын
Nothing can match the sweet smooth high pitched sound of the holy pandas
@jayfluxx3 жыл бұрын
Your editing! This is so good
@Havesomepizza2 жыл бұрын
How have I not run into this channel yet? Awesome B-roll and commentary.
@DantesInfrgnome3 жыл бұрын
"Oh cool! a new frankenswitch! I wonder what they feel like?" *suddenly remembers I have spare zealios and pandas* >:)
@NordenzurZukunft3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I'm kind of just sitting on my HPs and some old Zealios that I haven't used in a long time. I just bought the 78g durock springs. I'm excited to try this. Might even put these in my Think6.5v2, depending on how it goes. I've been loving my Tangies, though, so I'm having a hard time deciding.
@DarthAlgar53 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@asher44733 жыл бұрын
Ive never tried zykos but I am currently using holy waters (halo stems in full Aqua zilent housing) and I love them
@trevwagner6662 жыл бұрын
That sounds incredible.
@zach_morgan3 жыл бұрын
One of us, one of us
@Static_Age3 жыл бұрын
Damn! What a great video. Great production, great info, great research. Killing it!
@andymills44853 жыл бұрын
3:16 Minterly with the aggressive putback.
@SnoopySmells Жыл бұрын
AHHHH I NEED ZYKOS
@Triannosaurus3 жыл бұрын
After using many different switches, I realized I don't prefer super tactile switches. Most popular tactile switches today can be overly tactile and they can get uncomfortable. I'm more into subtle tactile switches now, like kailh pro purples or even modded mx clears.
@Minterly3 жыл бұрын
I wish I liked moderately tactile switches, it would save me a bunch of pain 🤣
@dabidmydarling53983 жыл бұрын
Your voice reminds me of one of the CNBC reporters. It's so relaxing to listen to.
@Quotenbrtchen3 жыл бұрын
The video quality feels more akin to a channel with 6-digit subscriber counts. I was definitely surprised to see your sub count be this low. Keep it up!
@elkiwi3573 жыл бұрын
I had to like this video because of the spring install B roll. how you got aggressive with the final one after failing twice before is hilarious to me.
@urielalbertosanchezm2 жыл бұрын
Very nice tutorial!
@djvesque3 жыл бұрын
I made a couple of Zykos switches with Glorious stems and top housings and it's honestly the best tactile switch I've felt so far. Thanks, I hate that I'll need to make my next build out of these expensive switches now :)
@pinesole Жыл бұрын
Made some with some Feker holy pandas and Zealios V2s. Also made some with real holy pandas and I legit can't feel the difference and they sound identical
@AeroPR2 жыл бұрын
Very nice and detailed video! Given that stem issue I would not advise the mixed housing for people using hot swappable boards. The force to push the switch in can ruin it based on what you showed. One the leaf inside bends tactility is ruined.
@BoofHoover3 жыл бұрын
As much as I try to be a keyboard snob my work just got these lenovo keyboards that are some weird psuedo mech membrane thing, it actually feels so nice to type on.
@nyrakui3 жыл бұрын
3:08 can relate, subscibed right there
@timtngo3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you make a MX Zilent video in this same format. Keep up the good work!
@eazydeezy53243 жыл бұрын
An upload from Minterly is always poggers.
@brianclauzel49733 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I have every component needed already, so I might end up building these, if only for the improved skin complexity and financial gain.
@ryandonovan76653 жыл бұрын
Tried this. Found the Zanda to be my perfect switch. I guess I like the sharp tactility.
@paulkwon67063 жыл бұрын
Informative. Well-made. Simplified. Thanks for the great video, it made subscribing an easy choice.
@ToxMUKA3 жыл бұрын
Super high quality video I love it
@razon3 жыл бұрын
Sounds heavenly. bookmarking this to possibly be my endgame
@SamA-ll2dt3 жыл бұрын
Huh... I have a load of holy pandas and Zealios, do you think it's worth trying my own?
@Minterly3 жыл бұрын
If you have no plans for those and have the time to try a few :)
@szchietzmane64363 жыл бұрын
Maybe make 30pcs first to put on your alphabets
@tophrii3 жыл бұрын
the guide is finally here! \o/
@vyln13183 жыл бұрын
Can confirm, built zanda speed switches (panda housing/stem with gateron clear spring (35g) and zealios bottom) as my osu switch. Want to make more but its hard to buy invyr pandas in lower quantities :(
@josefaguilar29553 жыл бұрын
Or you can try a Dark Jade/T1 housing with a Halo stem for EVEN MORE tactility and much cheaper. T1s are basically clones of V2 Zealios and don't have the failure rates of Zykos leaf. The leaf failure is due to how Gateron switch housings are built. Inks will suffer from the same issues.
@Minterly3 жыл бұрын
I actually really hate how T1s sound, so a huge part of the perfect switch for me is a balance of tactility and sound! Although Dark Jade seems like a popular suggestion so I guess I should try those next.
@Digital_Dirt2 жыл бұрын
I immediately tried this switch after watching this video and yes, t1 with a halo stem is absolutely more tactile and more enjoyable for me personally. I absolutely love dark jades as well
@Barbatoslol Жыл бұрын
very high quality videos! I sold all 3 of my kidneys to make zykos
@itismezed3 жыл бұрын
You can honestly get about 80% of the way to a Zykos by grabbing some 78g springs, along with lubing some Outemu Sky’s.
@NateDaBear3 жыл бұрын
I just want to point out that zilent bottom housings and zealios bottom housings have 2 different sounds/level of tactility. I thought they were the same so when I ran out of zealios bottom housings when I lost 2 to bad leaves my friend had zilents on hand The zykos built with zilent bottom housings seem to let the stem sink deeper causing a slightly weaker bottom out sound compared to zealios
@AmirhoseinHerandy3 жыл бұрын
I built my viper with these. Love it.
@karrarx20843 жыл бұрын
thocccc heaven
@DogHairDontCare3 жыл бұрын
3:15 get on there, ya darn spring
@brucec41303 жыл бұрын
Great video! What case is that? I really love the look and sound of everything. I already have some homebrewed Holy Pandas and was planning on doing an order from Zeal so this might be something to try!
@Minterly3 жыл бұрын
It’s a polycarbonate Iron 165.
@TankTastic2 жыл бұрын
I just got these, had pretend I went on vacation for a month so the landlord wouldn’t come for me for the rent.
@YellowNotThe3 жыл бұрын
Now we need a vid on the Neapolitan switches from cannon keys, that zykos like feel for way cheaper
@plaxico233 жыл бұрын
Well I’ve had 2/3 of the parts laying around anyways might as well do this!
@rhyno13513 жыл бұрын
How do these compare to Bykos? I heard Bykos are deeper compared to Zykos.
@toasty69863 жыл бұрын
what is the cheapest switch that is super close to a zykos?
@Aforgamon3 жыл бұрын
I think they sound better with Cherry tops. I also had 0 issues with failures using those.
@Minterly3 жыл бұрын
This is something people in my Discord were talking about trying. The tops are definitely the most interchangeable part!
@dingo46013 жыл бұрын
Am all about that thonk...
@TheseFnSwitches9 ай бұрын
Sold! I gotta try this. 😂
@Cactuspractice123 жыл бұрын
Great video! Your quest to find the bubble-wrap popping switch, did you find it? - i know you said the feel of the Zykos was like that, but what about the sound?
@kbar113 жыл бұрын
I need to try these out but so far my favourite tactile switch has been a Frankenswitch with c3 kiwi housing and Boba U4T stem. Either calling it boba Fetts or green apples. Not sure which name suits the colours better
@linchtrade3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be cheaper if just buy holy panda and put its top and stem into zeal bottom?
@montyp77043 жыл бұрын
Are these switches ok to hot swap with? Love the video btw!! I love tactile switches and I'm currently in search of another after my Bobas
@wuichovengeance3 жыл бұрын
9/10, need more T H O C C
@datdudeinred3 жыл бұрын
Would be great if you can compare these with prebuilt lubed and if necessary filmed gateron ink v2 kangaroos
@55sharkB83 жыл бұрын
These should be my endgame switches
@beatsbyyaoming3 жыл бұрын
hi, first time here holy the video quality is insane ! what camera do you use?
@Minterly3 жыл бұрын
I use an A7III!
@teajay36713 жыл бұрын
I genuinely broke down into a coughing fit when you said that they cost 2 dollars a switch WTF
@Slipsch3 жыл бұрын
I have the same setup but with everglide dark jade stem and top.
@MaxNakfoor3 жыл бұрын
Wish I could get just the Zeal leaves to put in some Holy Pandas
@veelut3 жыл бұрын
excellent video!
@CinceTheDay3 жыл бұрын
can I make any use of the leftovers? Zealio top housing doesn't fit on the panda buttom. stem would probably do fine though (well if it'd fit)
@dinhlongnguyen87503 жыл бұрын
Love your channel! Hardly ever subscribe but I did
@tocotaku47873 жыл бұрын
This was a good video, thanks for informing me about the different switch, granted I can imagine it being very pricey to make, but if you already have spare switches that you are not using of the needed switches to create the Zykos then I believe it would not be a bad thing to try out and see how good they are in comparison to their counterparts that make them up. How long have these switches been around?, because this is the first I have read about them or seen a video about them for that matter.
@garyt.9533 жыл бұрын
Aight so what happens if you combine the left over parts?
@ivy26943 жыл бұрын
i love this
@dr.dirtydan4973 жыл бұрын
Btw holy panda and halo switches have the same stem
@douggie46653 жыл бұрын
So how is the “rest”-switch? Panda bottom with zeal top? Is it still usable for your “B”-keyboards or are they like unholy pandas that everbody hates them?
@SLiX-thatguy11m-3 жыл бұрын
Need to try the Everglide Moyu Blacks (Dark Jades). I know they're expensive in NA at around the same price as HPs, but in Asia they run for much cheaper. Using them as my main and testing them against, Zealios, Zilents, GHPs, T1s, U4s, and soon Drop HPs, Moyus are by far the most tactile in feel. Would love for you to review them and compare them to this, maybe have some of the parts as an upgrade to this.
@ivoruiter66053 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree. Only downside is the significantly reduced travel
@Minterly3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how good of a switch reviewer I can be but definitely interested in trying out Dark Jades!
@Emma-ki3fv3 жыл бұрын
What’s your case, key caps, and anything else besides your switches?
@MistahJuicyBoy3 жыл бұрын
How is the tactility going down with the spring weight? It should be absolutely the other way around. Heavier = less tactile
@cartmantheoeric91983 жыл бұрын
Holy shit that sounds good
@linchtrade3 жыл бұрын
How would you describe the difference between zealios and Zykos, I am tempted to try this out. Nice video btw!
@CenturyOishi3 жыл бұрын
Hi i was wondering how the switches are holding up? Any key chattering or issues with them after using them for a few months? I've read that the drop holy pandas users complain about faulty switches/key chattering and such, thus my concern.