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Zykos: The Better Tactile Than Holy Pandas

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Күн бұрын

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@Xerpocalypse_
@Xerpocalypse_ 3 жыл бұрын
They might be nice, but GOOD LORD they are expensive. IMHO, prohibitively so, especially for people who are new to the hobby. They are also pretty wasteful if you just discard the other switch parts. Some people really, really overhype these. Please remember that there are (different) less expensive options out there.
@Minterly
@Minterly 3 жыл бұрын
You make a great point! There are a TON of other options out there and MANY if not MOST people would very happy with a stock tactile at a much more reasonable price point. Browns, Naevies, Ergo Clears, T1s and all JWK tactile recolors, Box Royals, stock Halos, stock Zealios, even Holy Pandas, the list goes on. This video is definitely more of a showcase for the happy little child born between peak tactility and peak sound for those who have experimented with switches and are still unhappy with what they've tried and/or have extra funds to throw at this hobby to experiment.
@tombaker2510
@tombaker2510 3 жыл бұрын
@@Minterly I think a Dark jade is just as tactile and way cheaper, I did make a 67g zykos and it felt really tactile but maybe I need a 78g to truly tell the difference.
@pengu470
@pengu470 3 жыл бұрын
@@tombaker2510 I'm gonna use dark jades but with 78g springs in the next build. (Maybe 7v?) To compare the difference.
@wesil755
@wesil755 3 жыл бұрын
@@Minterly I kinda want tactile ones that sound great but arent crazy expensive so what do you suggest the most. tyty and love ur vids!
@user-kz9rz8ui1c
@user-kz9rz8ui1c 3 жыл бұрын
@@wesil755 I've heard that the u4ts are good and they cost around 60¢ a switch.
@ShoobsTube
@ShoobsTube 3 жыл бұрын
Ever since I built Zykos, I grew 7 inches, won all my raffles, got six pack abs, and have found the love of my life. 10/10 would recommend.
@nbshftr
@nbshftr 3 жыл бұрын
7 inches 😳
@huydoan9902
@huydoan9902 3 жыл бұрын
No shoobs no. Gotta stick with the Holy Sh!t :)
@ShoobsTube
@ShoobsTube 3 жыл бұрын
@@huydoan9902 LOL
@SirTrollingham
@SirTrollingham 3 жыл бұрын
7 inches where ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@DG1TAL
@DG1TAL 3 жыл бұрын
@@SirTrollingham At home.
@sirtoasty9293
@sirtoasty9293 3 жыл бұрын
3:12 such aggression towards that poor spring 😂
@zekeviews
@zekeviews 3 жыл бұрын
3:15 Patrick: *FIRMLY GRASP IT*
@Skip13205
@Skip13205 3 жыл бұрын
My Favorite Part of the video. hahahaha
@cocacolagarlic9015
@cocacolagarlic9015 3 жыл бұрын
The second you started typing I was sold.
@Snoigel
@Snoigel 3 жыл бұрын
Saw this comment while watching the video, didn’t believe you till I heard it too.
@GalacticBlader
@GalacticBlader 3 жыл бұрын
You spelled ORGASMD WRONG
@cocacolagarlic9015
@cocacolagarlic9015 3 жыл бұрын
@@GalacticBlader ???
@AvRagExPhoenix
@AvRagExPhoenix 3 жыл бұрын
Holy, I just put one together since i have a Zealios from a switch tester and spare drop pandas and omg they are amazing, I think you've just converted me to team Zykos
@BlabberizeYT
@BlabberizeYT 3 жыл бұрын
How does this channel not have more subs? So much work went into each of these shots. The pans, soft focus, and even the sound is solid. Subbed.
@honeysal
@honeysal 3 жыл бұрын
3:09 the most relatable thing I’ve seen in years
@aragami0686
@aragami0686 3 жыл бұрын
why do people keep complaining about switches being expensive all while buying 3 sets of gmk?
@JosoLifts
@JosoLifts 3 жыл бұрын
all fax no printer
@toasty6986
@toasty6986 3 жыл бұрын
its in the name. great motherfricking keycaps
@rks5457
@rks5457 3 жыл бұрын
Who are these people?
@kaibeh
@kaibeh 3 жыл бұрын
Because it’s not worth it since there are tactile who are better for so much cheaper take tealios v2s as an example they were one of the best linears but now are just dead due to new linears being better values like jwk switches. Also for your statement about gmk keycaps they actually maintain and gain value due to how exclusive they are allowing you to resell them in the long run
@P3ktoRis
@P3ktoRis 2 жыл бұрын
the logical basic stuff, like dont lube the tactile bump and stuff like that. which springs eliminate tactility.... is really important to those who just started this, subbed
@pengu470
@pengu470 3 жыл бұрын
Zykos are the reason why I have Rolexes.
@GMFan
@GMFan 3 жыл бұрын
Getting a entire board of them are the reason I don’t lmao
@Definitely_Melnyx
@Definitely_Melnyx 3 жыл бұрын
Calling them expensive would be an understatement.
@sirtoasty9293
@sirtoasty9293 3 жыл бұрын
Me: Hey this looks pretty good! Minterly: I find that 78g is the perfect spring Me: 😳 my weak fingers...
@Minterly
@Minterly 3 жыл бұрын
Many people have told me that 67g Zykos are also nice. Might be worth a try!
@mikurej95
@mikurej95 3 жыл бұрын
My fingers get fatigued with 67g 💀
@rmacias_c
@rmacias_c 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikurej95 Yeah! 62g is the way to go.
@jadenngl
@jadenngl 3 жыл бұрын
@@rmacias_c dont get 62g zykos, at that spring weight zykos are not tactile to be worth
@rmacias_c
@rmacias_c 3 жыл бұрын
@@jadenngl Nah, I've just bought a Niz Plum Atom 68. Let's see if it's worth the money.
@Sizzler1174
@Sizzler1174 3 жыл бұрын
That is the best sound I have ever heard in a switch and I will take your word on the feel. Definitely adding this to my to do list for my new keeb. So glad I came across this particular video and can't wait until my new keeb is built with your franken caps. Thank you.
@xKayNee
@xKayNee 3 жыл бұрын
Boba top housing works as well, very tactile, just a tad little quieter. Love this switch.
@isaacschultz7022
@isaacschultz7022 3 жыл бұрын
Top new favorite switches. Silent alpacas, ink blacks, and zykos. I’ve always been a linear guy but these sound good af
@Keybored
@Keybored 3 жыл бұрын
Great, comprehensive video! Love the editing. Playing around with random springs, one thing I did notice was that longer springs of the same weight always produced a stronger tactility vs the shorter version of said same weight spring. Most springs being marketed at bottom out force, doesn't take too much consideration into the potential energy differences of springs when preloaded, and it's potential impact to enhance tactility. Maybe another way to even further enhance the zykos tactility.
@Minterly
@Minterly 3 жыл бұрын
I think testing out an even larger variety of springs would definitely be the most comprehensive/best way to play around with this switch!
@hellstone115
@hellstone115 Жыл бұрын
For anyone watching this much later now, theirs an alternative switch called the Neapolitan switch that is based on zykos that you can buy
@ItsPlucky_
@ItsPlucky_ 7 ай бұрын
I have heard both and I think I'm still going to get these they seem to have a little more depth in tone
@heroyale8138
@heroyale8138 3 жыл бұрын
Videos itself smells quality subscribed.
@FredrikAuestad
@FredrikAuestad 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, the production quality is deliciously good. And thank you for introducing me to the Cult of Zykos! Once I finished your video I ordered the switches I needed and am currently waiting to assemble some Zykos. Thank you and keep up the good work!
@rotuh
@rotuh 2 жыл бұрын
If you want the ultimate thock I recommend building the 🅱ykos which use the Boba top housing instead. You can also straight up use the Boba stems, making them more budget that way. They are very similar to Halo stems, but you do give up just a little in tactility for more thocc
@itsyagirlapes
@itsyagirlapes Жыл бұрын
Nice! I'll have to try these
@jiyan8932
@jiyan8932 3 жыл бұрын
The most satisfying and informational video I never knew I needed
@johnha1456
@johnha1456 3 жыл бұрын
i had the pieces laying around and tried this out. i also had drop holy pandas on hand and a batch of halo clears and translucent pandas that came in today. ill say that the tactility is awesome! its a round tactile event much like the zealios instead of the "over coming the hump and then slamming into bottom out" with the drop holy pandas. the zykos is zero pretravel and zero travel after the tactile event before you bottom out. but because we are using the zealios bottom, the bottom out is less "thocky" than the typical holy panda thock. its a BIT more muted but much more thocky than the normal zealios bottom out. About 80% the thock between a zealios bottom out and a holy panda bottom out (towards the holy panda side) I would say. Also, i wanted to note that the invyr top and the bsun tops are really different. they are both polycarbonate, but the bsun top has more ping and a higher note while invyr top has a deeper sound. in short, its the switch that i always wished the zealios were. its more of a "tightly controlled" tactile event compared to the zealios which i would consider a "loose and wobbly" tactile event. and again, the difference between the panda and the zykos is taht i would describe a holy panda tactile event as falling over cliff and hitting rock bottom, and zykos would be like "driving over a speedbump that is right up against a tree."
@Zentennen
@Zentennen 3 жыл бұрын
Daaamn as soon as the sound test started I knew this was a good switch. I was a bit worried when you said the halo stems create a higher pitched sound but it actually sounds really nice. I love an extremely tactile switch as well.
@fran9420
@fran9420 3 жыл бұрын
those shots were soooo gooooood. keep it up!!
@thechientlegiant
@thechientlegiant 3 жыл бұрын
Got translucent pandas for this! Your video quality is getting better and better! Keep it up 👍
@Minterly
@Minterly 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chientle!!! 💖
@NamuSenpai
@NamuSenpai 3 жыл бұрын
you are a godsend, ive been looking for switches like these. thank you so much
@CDKing_
@CDKing_ 3 жыл бұрын
Whoa, what?? I actually made these switches like a year ago (with Drop HP tops specifically) and big disclaimer, if you open the switches more than a couple times, the panda tops are EXTREMELY prone to cracking. I wound up destroying a whole lot of HP tops this way, lol. I eventually tried NK Blueberry stems in YOK panda housings and I love it! Practically made HP's feel linear by comparison.
@DashzRight
@DashzRight 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing can match the sweet smooth high pitched sound of the holy pandas
@jayfluxx
@jayfluxx 3 жыл бұрын
Your editing! This is so good
@Havesomepizza
@Havesomepizza 2 жыл бұрын
How have I not run into this channel yet? Awesome B-roll and commentary.
@DantesInfrgnome
@DantesInfrgnome 3 жыл бұрын
"Oh cool! a new frankenswitch! I wonder what they feel like?" *suddenly remembers I have spare zealios and pandas* >:)
@NordenzurZukunft
@NordenzurZukunft 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I'm kind of just sitting on my HPs and some old Zealios that I haven't used in a long time. I just bought the 78g durock springs. I'm excited to try this. Might even put these in my Think6.5v2, depending on how it goes. I've been loving my Tangies, though, so I'm having a hard time deciding.
@DarthAlgar5
@DarthAlgar5 3 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@asher4473
@asher4473 3 жыл бұрын
Ive never tried zykos but I am currently using holy waters (halo stems in full Aqua zilent housing) and I love them
@trevwagner666
@trevwagner666 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds incredible.
@zach_morgan
@zach_morgan 3 жыл бұрын
One of us, one of us
@Static_Age
@Static_Age 3 жыл бұрын
Damn! What a great video. Great production, great info, great research. Killing it!
@andymills4485
@andymills4485 3 жыл бұрын
3:16 Minterly with the aggressive putback.
@SnoopySmells
@SnoopySmells Жыл бұрын
AHHHH I NEED ZYKOS
@Triannosaurus
@Triannosaurus 3 жыл бұрын
After using many different switches, I realized I don't prefer super tactile switches. Most popular tactile switches today can be overly tactile and they can get uncomfortable. I'm more into subtle tactile switches now, like kailh pro purples or even modded mx clears.
@Minterly
@Minterly 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I liked moderately tactile switches, it would save me a bunch of pain 🤣
@dabidmydarling5398
@dabidmydarling5398 3 жыл бұрын
Your voice reminds me of one of the CNBC reporters. It's so relaxing to listen to.
@Quotenbrtchen
@Quotenbrtchen 3 жыл бұрын
The video quality feels more akin to a channel with 6-digit subscriber counts. I was definitely surprised to see your sub count be this low. Keep it up!
@elkiwi357
@elkiwi357 3 жыл бұрын
I had to like this video because of the spring install B roll. how you got aggressive with the final one after failing twice before is hilarious to me.
@urielalbertosanchezm
@urielalbertosanchezm 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice tutorial!
@djvesque
@djvesque 3 жыл бұрын
I made a couple of Zykos switches with Glorious stems and top housings and it's honestly the best tactile switch I've felt so far. Thanks, I hate that I'll need to make my next build out of these expensive switches now :)
@pinesole
@pinesole Жыл бұрын
Made some with some Feker holy pandas and Zealios V2s. Also made some with real holy pandas and I legit can't feel the difference and they sound identical
@AeroPR
@AeroPR 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice and detailed video! Given that stem issue I would not advise the mixed housing for people using hot swappable boards. The force to push the switch in can ruin it based on what you showed. One the leaf inside bends tactility is ruined.
@BoofHoover
@BoofHoover 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I try to be a keyboard snob my work just got these lenovo keyboards that are some weird psuedo mech membrane thing, it actually feels so nice to type on.
@nyrakui
@nyrakui 3 жыл бұрын
3:08 can relate, subscibed right there
@timtngo
@timtngo 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you make a MX Zilent video in this same format. Keep up the good work!
@eazydeezy5324
@eazydeezy5324 3 жыл бұрын
An upload from Minterly is always poggers.
@brianclauzel4973
@brianclauzel4973 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I have every component needed already, so I might end up building these, if only for the improved skin complexity and financial gain.
@ryandonovan7665
@ryandonovan7665 3 жыл бұрын
Tried this. Found the Zanda to be my perfect switch. I guess I like the sharp tactility.
@paulkwon6706
@paulkwon6706 3 жыл бұрын
Informative. Well-made. Simplified. Thanks for the great video, it made subscribing an easy choice.
@ToxMUKA
@ToxMUKA 3 жыл бұрын
Super high quality video I love it
@razon
@razon 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds heavenly. bookmarking this to possibly be my endgame
@SamA-ll2dt
@SamA-ll2dt 3 жыл бұрын
Huh... I have a load of holy pandas and Zealios, do you think it's worth trying my own?
@Minterly
@Minterly 3 жыл бұрын
If you have no plans for those and have the time to try a few :)
@szchietzmane6436
@szchietzmane6436 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe make 30pcs first to put on your alphabets
@tophrii
@tophrii 3 жыл бұрын
the guide is finally here! \o/
@vyln1318
@vyln1318 3 жыл бұрын
Can confirm, built zanda speed switches (panda housing/stem with gateron clear spring (35g) and zealios bottom) as my osu switch. Want to make more but its hard to buy invyr pandas in lower quantities :(
@josefaguilar2955
@josefaguilar2955 3 жыл бұрын
Or you can try a Dark Jade/T1 housing with a Halo stem for EVEN MORE tactility and much cheaper. T1s are basically clones of V2 Zealios and don't have the failure rates of Zykos leaf. The leaf failure is due to how Gateron switch housings are built. Inks will suffer from the same issues.
@Minterly
@Minterly 3 жыл бұрын
I actually really hate how T1s sound, so a huge part of the perfect switch for me is a balance of tactility and sound! Although Dark Jade seems like a popular suggestion so I guess I should try those next.
@Digital_Dirt
@Digital_Dirt 2 жыл бұрын
I immediately tried this switch after watching this video and yes, t1 with a halo stem is absolutely more tactile and more enjoyable for me personally. I absolutely love dark jades as well
@Barbatoslol
@Barbatoslol Жыл бұрын
very high quality videos! I sold all 3 of my kidneys to make zykos
@itismezed
@itismezed 3 жыл бұрын
You can honestly get about 80% of the way to a Zykos by grabbing some 78g springs, along with lubing some Outemu Sky’s.
@NateDaBear
@NateDaBear 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to point out that zilent bottom housings and zealios bottom housings have 2 different sounds/level of tactility. I thought they were the same so when I ran out of zealios bottom housings when I lost 2 to bad leaves my friend had zilents on hand The zykos built with zilent bottom housings seem to let the stem sink deeper causing a slightly weaker bottom out sound compared to zealios
@AmirhoseinHerandy
@AmirhoseinHerandy 3 жыл бұрын
I built my viper with these. Love it.
@karrarx2084
@karrarx2084 3 жыл бұрын
thocccc heaven
@DogHairDontCare
@DogHairDontCare 3 жыл бұрын
3:15 get on there, ya darn spring
@brucec4130
@brucec4130 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! What case is that? I really love the look and sound of everything. I already have some homebrewed Holy Pandas and was planning on doing an order from Zeal so this might be something to try!
@Minterly
@Minterly 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a polycarbonate Iron 165.
@TankTastic
@TankTastic 2 жыл бұрын
I just got these, had pretend I went on vacation for a month so the landlord wouldn’t come for me for the rent.
@YellowNotThe
@YellowNotThe 3 жыл бұрын
Now we need a vid on the Neapolitan switches from cannon keys, that zykos like feel for way cheaper
@plaxico23
@plaxico23 3 жыл бұрын
Well I’ve had 2/3 of the parts laying around anyways might as well do this!
@rhyno1351
@rhyno1351 3 жыл бұрын
How do these compare to Bykos? I heard Bykos are deeper compared to Zykos.
@toasty6986
@toasty6986 3 жыл бұрын
what is the cheapest switch that is super close to a zykos?
@Aforgamon
@Aforgamon 3 жыл бұрын
I think they sound better with Cherry tops. I also had 0 issues with failures using those.
@Minterly
@Minterly 3 жыл бұрын
This is something people in my Discord were talking about trying. The tops are definitely the most interchangeable part!
@dingo4601
@dingo4601 3 жыл бұрын
Am all about that thonk...
@TheseFnSwitches
@TheseFnSwitches 9 ай бұрын
Sold! I gotta try this. 😂
@Cactuspractice12
@Cactuspractice12 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Your quest to find the bubble-wrap popping switch, did you find it? - i know you said the feel of the Zykos was like that, but what about the sound?
@kbar11
@kbar11 3 жыл бұрын
I need to try these out but so far my favourite tactile switch has been a Frankenswitch with c3 kiwi housing and Boba U4T stem. Either calling it boba Fetts or green apples. Not sure which name suits the colours better
@linchtrade
@linchtrade 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be cheaper if just buy holy panda and put its top and stem into zeal bottom?
@montyp7704
@montyp7704 3 жыл бұрын
Are these switches ok to hot swap with? Love the video btw!! I love tactile switches and I'm currently in search of another after my Bobas
@wuichovengeance
@wuichovengeance 3 жыл бұрын
9/10, need more T H O C C
@datdudeinred
@datdudeinred 3 жыл бұрын
Would be great if you can compare these with prebuilt lubed and if necessary filmed gateron ink v2 kangaroos
@55sharkB8
@55sharkB8 3 жыл бұрын
These should be my endgame switches
@beatsbyyaoming
@beatsbyyaoming 3 жыл бұрын
hi, first time here holy the video quality is insane ! what camera do you use?
@Minterly
@Minterly 3 жыл бұрын
I use an A7III!
@teajay3671
@teajay3671 3 жыл бұрын
I genuinely broke down into a coughing fit when you said that they cost 2 dollars a switch WTF
@Slipsch
@Slipsch 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same setup but with everglide dark jade stem and top.
@MaxNakfoor
@MaxNakfoor 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I could get just the Zeal leaves to put in some Holy Pandas
@veelut
@veelut 3 жыл бұрын
excellent video!
@CinceTheDay
@CinceTheDay 3 жыл бұрын
can I make any use of the leftovers? Zealio top housing doesn't fit on the panda buttom. stem would probably do fine though (well if it'd fit)
@dinhlongnguyen8750
@dinhlongnguyen8750 3 жыл бұрын
Love your channel! Hardly ever subscribe but I did
@tocotaku4787
@tocotaku4787 3 жыл бұрын
This was a good video, thanks for informing me about the different switch, granted I can imagine it being very pricey to make, but if you already have spare switches that you are not using of the needed switches to create the Zykos then I believe it would not be a bad thing to try out and see how good they are in comparison to their counterparts that make them up. How long have these switches been around?, because this is the first I have read about them or seen a video about them for that matter.
@garyt.953
@garyt.953 3 жыл бұрын
Aight so what happens if you combine the left over parts?
@ivy2694
@ivy2694 3 жыл бұрын
i love this
@dr.dirtydan497
@dr.dirtydan497 3 жыл бұрын
Btw holy panda and halo switches have the same stem
@douggie4665
@douggie4665 3 жыл бұрын
So how is the “rest”-switch? Panda bottom with zeal top? Is it still usable for your “B”-keyboards or are they like unholy pandas that everbody hates them?
@SLiX-thatguy11m-
@SLiX-thatguy11m- 3 жыл бұрын
Need to try the Everglide Moyu Blacks (Dark Jades). I know they're expensive in NA at around the same price as HPs, but in Asia they run for much cheaper. Using them as my main and testing them against, Zealios, Zilents, GHPs, T1s, U4s, and soon Drop HPs, Moyus are by far the most tactile in feel. Would love for you to review them and compare them to this, maybe have some of the parts as an upgrade to this.
@ivoruiter6605
@ivoruiter6605 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree. Only downside is the significantly reduced travel
@Minterly
@Minterly 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how good of a switch reviewer I can be but definitely interested in trying out Dark Jades!
@Emma-ki3fv
@Emma-ki3fv 3 жыл бұрын
What’s your case, key caps, and anything else besides your switches?
@MistahJuicyBoy
@MistahJuicyBoy 3 жыл бұрын
How is the tactility going down with the spring weight? It should be absolutely the other way around. Heavier = less tactile
@cartmantheoeric9198
@cartmantheoeric9198 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit that sounds good
@linchtrade
@linchtrade 3 жыл бұрын
How would you describe the difference between zealios and Zykos, I am tempted to try this out. Nice video btw!
@CenturyOishi
@CenturyOishi 3 жыл бұрын
Hi i was wondering how the switches are holding up? Any key chattering or issues with them after using them for a few months? I've read that the drop holy pandas users complain about faulty switches/key chattering and such, thus my concern.
@madcc
@madcc 3 жыл бұрын
7:42 for the sound test
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