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I began the ThriveDX (HackerU 6 month bootcamp) course around June and through research and after many other people basically corroborating what you're saying, ive started the process of cancelling it. Maybe ill try my luck at Western Gov or software dev again, but i just wanted to thank you for opening my eyes

So youre telling me my uncle who has worked his half of his life in kebab shop cant go to bootcamp and learn cybersecurity in 6 months bootcamp? Unbelievable...

UK here. Got laid off and then next company again (only now different reason). Market is not great but i am hopeful. I am taking anything that is compatible with me, and aware that i want to say yes fast to any company vibing with me because of the competition you mention which i think could be here as well for sure

No one is disagreeing with you?

And still we need H1-Bs?

this is one of the best videos I’ve ever seen, genuinely.

Computer parts are very valuable and then networks. If someone doesn’t understand basic networking then they will really struggle in this field. Network+ then CCNA is my recommended roadmap for someone new, with network+ you have a chance of getting help desk role then you can study for your CCNA. Don’t do any cybersecurity certs before these

This was pretty similar to my roadmap. 2018 a senior in high school I started off as a hardware computer technician did that for couple years then got a NOC T1 job at large ISP (glorified customer service). Took me about 4-5 years while going to university and getting certs to get into a soc analyst role. Journey was fun though, maybe it won’t take the average person that long but you’re correct sir cannot skip the basics

What about GRC, they dont know either lol

I'm going into Junioir IT Support and hope to one day build my career into a cybersecurity role, but I'm not going to cut corners... I'll spend my time on the desk.

Great video. Lots of truth

This is great advice.

But but...Duane, the guy selling me the bootcamp said I could be a cybersecurity expert within 6 weeks!!

blunt honesty is rare to find on this site. But I really appreciate it!

H1B I believe needs to decrease in numbers. Sorry but companies have taken advantage of that program at the expense of US citizens.

Companies don’t care about you, unless you’re willing to work penny’s on the in a foreign country

As a mere developer myself, I always thought of cyber security guys as developers who are too smart/ambitious to remain just developers. Big respect for the intelligence and hard work required in that field.

such a angry, hardened, misleading video.

this is a lie- ENTIRELY DIFFERENT skillset. I was hired as a penetration tester with NO CODING KNOWLEDGE.

Distcc will always be here for you

Your bar is definitely too high. Security research is insanely broad and you can't possibly know everything. The expectation is that obviously if you dont know something you should learn it for the future. I doubt most people probably know what a channel file is 😂. Also I'm 99% certain the researcher youre referring to is John Hammond

i did security research for a while and i know the bucket is huge. There will always be gaps in a researcher's knowledge. It is a fundamental expectation that the researcher will be able to learn these gaps well enough to share and explain in their research. The reporting in tech does not require a level of expertise that is associated with a researcher. i don't know what a channel file is, but also i don't make tech reporting. i did research in obfuscated compilers, secure voting systems, static code analysis, and binary decompilation. I know that when I read something that I don't understand, I'm going to share about it that I need to hunker down and get intimate with the data.

Weird enough, i never remotely even considered Cyber Security but i do c++ Assemble scrap pc's and create Bridge networks because it's fun and i overconsume coffee so i can stay awake trying to figure out how to get Presision IK working! And... I feel like i know absolutely nothing at all

great stuff as always duane.

Hey man, thanks for posting these golden nuggets of wisdom. I graduated HS in 2015 and got into college for CS. Fast forward to 2018 I dropped out because I was not an active learner and I solely depended on the teachers to teach me the material. Currently, I have some certs and work in IT. I've been debating on finishing my degree in CS and having watched this video just reaffirmed my notion to finish what I started. You've just gained a sub. Thank you once again.

Where can I find that map??

I’m employed and have been a dev for 25+ years. I have to get out of my job due to stress and the market looks so bad it doesn’t seem worth it to stay in the field. 100s of applicants with lots of experienced people applying for jobs. Even if you have experience it seems there is very little chance to be hired. Time to freelance or start a KZfaq channel. I hate to say it, hope I’m wrong, but tech just looks like a really bad field right now. Either that or people are over blowing this. When I start looking I’ll find out.

I dont really agree with having to do some job first in order to succeed in cybersec. In my opinion you can do those paralely. Like you find something you want to do security in for example like learning to hack smb, so you go learn how it works and then you do security of smb and so on and so on. At least that's how I like to do it. Chopping it down to small pieces. But I am strong believer that you have to know how something works before you can do good job and do security around that thing. Definitely, without knowing how to move around terminal and not knowing anything other than turning computer on and off - you will be hopeless. But I don't think you have to have full career in something different than security and only joining after that. Again, knowing how things work is essential and without that you will do shitty job. Would love to hear other opinions though:)

hey man could I reach out to you, im 22 in desktop support no degree would like to get your advice on how to get into devops/cybersecurity

The deeper I go with the software development side of my cybersecurity journey the more I'm realising how much I actually enjoy it and that so many pieces actually begin to slot together.. Like a birds eye view. Thanks for the insight.

being an IT tech for the last 21 years, I just can't believe a mistake from a crowdstrike like company. I never thought I would ever require to pull out internet cable from the firewall in my whole life, but I did it when i realized what was happening luckily only 4 machines effected from my environment and no servers. I believe I could be marked as safe :)

Everything you said was true but cybersecurity should have a separate career path than IT or software development. I don’t think you should need to understand multiple programming languages to be a soc analyst 1. The career should start at substantially more IT fundamentals and packet analysis etc.

Good explanation. To me, it is really frustrating to see that politicians and regulators try to roll out these standards without any deeper understanding. I don't like the OAuth 2.0 approach; I think it is just stupid for three reasons, and I'd like to hear your points on that. 1) Centralized location that does the AUTH logic. Great place to attack, no? 2) Kinda unnecessary? I can use multi-factor authentication and I am going to be much safer, no? Especially when I have to use my phone, e.g., with biometrics... 3) Loss of control. I AM NOT AUTH. So how do I make sure that AUTH is according to MY standards? How do I make sure AUTH has my best interest in mind?

I am on the journey of transitioning into IT and this video got me so hype

You can tell they know their shit when they’re overweight and have long hair. Listen to this guy if you want to get into this industry

who was the guy who struggled to explain the channel file? I want to know so I can judge whether to listen to other things they might say

I tried skipping IT/SWE to go into DevOps, but never ended up getting any opportunities. Now after experience in Help Desk and becoming an IT Specialist/Sys Admin learning to admin and learning the computer system, kernel, command line and foundational Cloud and Programming knowledge I’m now well equipped and transitioning into a Cloud Engineer role. It took me over a year, but I’ve also been building computer and troubleshooting for fun for years. Definitely would’ve bombed my technical interviews if I never built that foundation.

So... can i retire into a cyber security role? I'm starting at almost 29 here, lol

A lot of this type of talk is very common in my field of product marketing. It isn't an entry level role. Most common for MBB consultants to transfer to PMM. Otherwise, many years of exp. But, despite all that I was still able to do it. Yes, very rare, you shouldnt bank on it, but its possible. If you cant put together a computer and get it on the network, it doesnt mean the field isnt for you. It just means you need to learn how to do it, just like anyone else.

What would your advice be for someone who wants to learn/eventually get a job just strictly in writing secure code and the things that go along with that? Still get the Comptia certs to get a good foundation before you progress in programming?

I'm seeing some memes that indicate the engineer who pushed the issue has been fired.

Not worth the pay

Yes, your bar for tech reporting is far too high

cybersecurity is the easiest shit what

So many online schools shilling cyber sec degrees and certs really aggressively.

I have a free beginners course that includes this called “how to program program from the ground up” that goes into this in a friendly way It’s on my channel

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I am curious about your attitude towards developers spending time on using bare-metal tools. Do you think it is valuable for a software developer to spend time on learning VIM and configuring Gentoo on your daily-driver devices, or you treat is as a waste of time? I am asking because I find it extremely developing to know things from absolute scratch, but it is discouraging when the tools used by modern developers are so sophisticated and skip those basics. I am also curious why do you use the common tools like Windows and VS Code, when you have so much experience. Is it because you find it a waste of time to configure things you do not currently need? Also, have you ever considered Computer Science Academia? In your opinion, is the private sector better for working in research topics in IT?