Thanks to you, Roy, and Cecil for putting this together, was a fun and interesting listen!

DOES ROY get hired to lie to the community and get the sweet ncsoft money doing nothing and getting a huge bum. Where is our update we dont need another spokesperson for the dev team we need a god damn dev who pushes the wvw update through????? whats going is it the arenanet welfare socialist communist company with deadlines that are due never. Hire some project manager from korea that breath down the shitty fat neck and get shit done.

WvW was far better before these jokers moved in and tweaked it to fit their agenda.

Roy randomly showed up on in EOTM the week of the restructure. He joined us to get the weekly done which was funny. I like him as Ive seen him roam. All other anet players in wvw hide in mobs

yeah you need do to something about the exploiters on keeps and tower thats what you need to fix, thats the main problem on wvw, just hacked in to a t3 towers or keep tadaaa ez t3 cap and it only takes one player to do that GG.

Are they going to start doing anything against the cheaters running all over that place? the past year this is becoming normality. most of the players in WvW especially are suffering from this situation. if you don't know what I am talking I can share all the websites offering cheats ofc with a monthly subscription. They might make more money than Anet at this point! anyways good luck and have fun (if can)

They should add a rental Basic Warclaw for players without. I tried to introduce two friends to WvW and both quit because they couldn't use mounts. They couldn't practice the game mode unless I was there to speed boost them, which I'm not always, we're all working adults with different schedules. They were totally confused and left behind on their own. Why couldn't they just buy a basic, non fancy, 'get the job done' mount with gold like in every other game? Also, because it is convoluted, none of the veteran players even remember how the process was done. They asked me, "how do you get a mount?" and I'd long since memory holed all that tedious nonsense. The default answer everybody gives to this is "search it on KZfaq". We cannot pretend that isn't a HORRIBLE system.

Hope there’s gonna more of this type of video

Me: *neatly puts cropped & transparent unclickable arcDPS windows over minimap, useful and looks great* This video: *FIVE DEFAULT ARCDPS WINDOWS AT TOP OF SCREEN, THE ABYSS STARES BACK AT THEE* it's the little things that give us away

Quit the game until they actually do something about this big mess.

Stacking late NA, OCX, and Sea up on T1 is essential for the mode! That's the ONLY way to have enough content in the off hours and make the mode viable. That's why players created static Tiers and it worked for years. Players who liked WvW, PPT, and winning stayed in T1 and T2! NA fight guilds had T2 and T3 as they only cared about GvG'ing anyway. Players who like smacking gates unopposed had T4 for that. The dev's taking away our agency by locking worlds has been the problem for years. World restructuring has accelerated taking away player agency and it's the wrong way forward. We the players want content, want good matches, and need the tools to create it. Case in point, you mentioned Season 2 and JQ and TC 2v'ing BG. They were only 2v'd hard for the first 3 days. After that they were only focused to keep their score down. This was a great thing as it showed players were more than capable of managing the mode ourselves. BG became overstacked and toxic and we the players applied consequences for it. As I said, we the players want content and want good matches. The Dev's need to give us our Worlds back and get out of our way.

Wow, you have a lot of melee interactions in your vid. Most wvw fights I've encountered, except havok ambushes, are 90% ranged except on a hard push.

Unexpected, but very nice to see such a small, unofficial homely sort of chat with the devs. Discord sounds and overall background noise / bad sound quality did kill me a little, pls fix :)

yes WvW is the best the game has to offer we love our WvW ❤

I think it would have been more respectful if you had focused on the interview, Sheff, and not played the game at the same time. That said, thanks for talking to Roy and Cedric to hear their WvW philosophy.

Would prefer to see Roy and Cecil on screen as well instead of live game feed.

What a waste of time and resources.

your on my server HAHHAHA

quick feedback , please disable discord push to talk noise in the future , its super distracting and gets a bit annoying after a while .

How are they gonna stop people from merging to 2/3 mega servers that will dominate everyone else? I'm on frost citadel eu currently and its straight up garbage matchmaking for weeks and people have already migrated. Don't see there being anyone in 2 weeks, straight up abandoned. People will always migrate to winning server. I didnt hear anything clear about that outside of "hope it works one day".

Thanks for the new recipe chef John!

Hey Sheff, You state that an objective will be contested if "A gate or a wall is damaged to 98% or less". When the Update Preview Notes state "Objectives contest [...] when a gate/wall is damaged below 98%". I don't believe damaging a wall or gate to 98% will contest the objective. It must be damaged to 97% or less based on the Update Preview Notes. Cheers, Serial

This system is mising slightly difrent weighting for weekends ;(

As a casual SEA player, my guild and I don't care about the war score. We just want content that isnt on sided steam-rolling. What I fear is that this causes their algorithm to misrepresent dominant SEA/OCX guilds. Hopefully, this can help them identify which matchups actually have dominant SEA/OCX groups to properly pair them during the next match reset

I've played both during prime time and off hours (on both NA and EU) and I'm liking the new system because it was always a hassle when we wanted to go up a tier and you'd have to PPT all day and all night just to try and catch up to the off hour night/very early morning crews even though you'd never see them during prime time or even prime adjacent times. I think it generally makes it easier for most players to not get burnt out - but here I also understand that some will miss their off hour influence so ymmv. I'm also hoping that the PPT/PPK changes will be favorable to finding good matchups. I'm liking the contesting changes, but not sure about the EWP change yet haha. Overall I'm very curious about the patch and upcoming changes! Thank you for this good overview video! Looking forward to your reaction when it's all implemented :D

Good video. The score changes are nice... Except nobody cares about scores. Even if they introduce rewards, those will be so minimal , nobody still will care about score.

I have noted as an ocx player, this new system has been an absolute nightmare, a handful of people on green and blue with a server Q blob on red. Has been this way every week so far, beyond a joke. Ocx was already a wasteland for many servers pre changes, but atleast you used to know what content there could be based on the server...... Now, who tf knows... And by the time you get an idea, it will all be blown apart again. Myself and quite a few roamers i know are pretty much at the door of quitting back to spvp (another barren waste with 7+min q times) sad

The scoring annoys me a little as an ocx/sea player. My guild won't bring in much at all, and if the game makes war score matter more and more then I'll feel like I'm missing out on good points and my guild will have to play on what we'd consider off hours in order to really help the server.

Using JQ as an example: OCX/SEA heavy. NA pretty much dead. The guest server even has better NA player count most of the time. NA guilds were getting stomped due to map coverage and player count during prime time. JQ SEA/OCX is the opposite. Huge population, no enemies. Both timezones were barely getting fights reasonable for their size. While I don't like the old scoring system either, this upcoming change is only beneficial to NA exclusively. This will reflect into NA getting better matchups but it disregards the SEA/OCX population. This is anet telling non NA/EU players "go fuck yourself" if you're not a primetime timezone player. Tl;dr - before, both timezones were fucked. Now, only off hours players are left to rot. Is this really the way to go?

I like the time thing. It will balance out the fact that there are people in Australia playing on NA servers, Which throws shi off.

As a USTZ player who moved temporarily to Japan I think this update misses the point. Sure there are fewer players but the implication is that it is *easier* to make points off hours than during prime and that just is **not true**. Is a 5v5 easier or harder than a 30v30? No. its just different. Arguably, I have fewer enemies to rally from so it may actually be **harder** and yet my efforts are now valued much less. What ArenaNet *should* be doing is weighting skirmish score by how much population you have online at any time, so that if you outnumber people your contributions are worth less. That solves the same problem by reducing the prominence of big off hours blobs where its easier to generate those big population imbalances.

Great GvG footage in the background!

a Question I still have not seen answered: what do we get for winning? What happens when you win a skirmish? What are the rewards?

PPT time gating is a mixed bag. It's going to filter the heavy na prime time groups together and the ocx time groups together, which I think is good. However, the issue with that is the delusional "tier" system. You can't add rewards for a higher tier when they're only there because anet wiped their ass. Need to keep in mind that anet makes the groups.

You probably don't know this but on weekends I play during EU time which is like noon for NA, I have been doing this for the entire of rall's rest and honestly it's one of the contributions for pushing us up to tier 1, Low tiers there was nothing during that timezone but as we went up we started seeing other groups. Like right now in T1

Competitive game mode, all these changes make sense. Weighting points based off activity makes a lot more sense. (For reference i play in OCX) With it mattering less to PPT during off hours I'm also hopeful it will break up some of the stacking in this timezone. Currently its like 3 MASSIVE groups and everyone else has singles.

another sheff video, another great day

Scoring changes are bad. I was running with a late-night guild last night and they're angry and frustrated that their contributions will mean less. (One guy literally said "We don't matter.") This is just promoting prime-time zergs, who apparently have the loudest voice in Anet's ear. I actually think the scoring system should be the OPPOSITE of what they've proposed. Give bonuses to the few players that play before/after peak hours to encourage off-hours playing. Prime time is zergs running around tromping on each other; off-hours is smaller groups doing PPT to even the score. It's called teamwork.

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The chapters are all just professions instead of what the chapters are actually talking about. Accidentally copy pasted from another video?

Good jorb step mum, just have to work on your about face movement for those b rolls 👍

Metroid prime music 👍

Great video and script, but it might be helpful to put some occasional bullets on the screen to highlight your points instead of just raid footage.

Very good vid, glad they’re giving wvw some love the little adjustments go pretty far in this game mode not to mention the big changes like the scoring system.

So if you play midnight or later your efforts will be roughly equal to a third of the prime time players. I see this making the off hours become very dead.

Hi sheff ! I like your wvw content like always! I like the format you are using. Short topic between different video can be a good concept! Since you cover upcoming change in overall in this video as well, maybe you can add it to your little!

I really appreciate how detailed and in depth your guides are, makes it very easy to learn from. Im trying to get into a support role for wvw but this looks so tedious to play I cant see myself enjoying it. Is there a lower apm wvw support you might recommend as particularly accessible?

the problem is you lose a lot of support for your party on that build :)