Much appreciated video. I was surprised you could use the Absorine pad to the degree that you did and not lose gloss or color. Nice job, and as others have said, very relaxing to watch. Best wishes
@blacklabelminiaturesАй бұрын
If you know (or are pretty sure) it’s going to come back Purple, why not put the extra effort into really cleaning/fixing as much mistakes as you can and attempt to get a Grey label?
@matthewhicks3019Ай бұрын
Considering there hasn't been an update in a couple of years, its safe to assume that the grade came back below a CGC 5.5 and your method of cleaning did not work. Not trying to be harsh or critical, but I am trying to learn how to properly clean and press my comics. SO... with that being said and no result video show, we all (viewers) have to assume the worst. We all would love to see an update on what you received back from CGC.
@thegilfactortv2 ай бұрын
Thanks for Sharing!
@davidalicea32033 ай бұрын
I went to your links noth came up
@epicomicologycomics3 ай бұрын
I fixed all the links in the description and added a bunch more. I no longer have the kits available, but I added most of the common items.
@AmedeeBoulette4 ай бұрын
Why SRP? I’ve only used 110lbs paper and never had ink transfer, ever. Hundreds of presses. I’m just wondering why everyone use SRP and if I’m doing something wrong?
@epicomicologycomics3 ай бұрын
I don’t necessarily think it’s wrong. I just thinking using SRP is safe. It’s the way I learned how to press and I still do it. Since I use backer boards as the “bread of the sandwich”, I was always concerned that there would be gloss transfer from the backer board to the cover. But if you are using 110 lbs card stock, then you don’t have to worry about that.
@AmedeeBoulette3 ай бұрын
@@epicomicologycomics yeah, it makes sense that there could be a transfer given it happens naturally, when comics are just in a box and moved around. You can see it sometimes when changing bags and boards.
@franktiodor12234 ай бұрын
Hi! I am reading the CGC book "The Official CGC Guide to Grading Comics. You mentioned in the video about possibly it would be better if the CGC gave the comic a conserved grade rather than a restored grade. In your case it is not possible to get a conserved grade on the ASM 129 because what you did was strictly for aesthetic purposes with the cleaning. The only way you can get a conserved grade is if the work done in the CGC's opinion is things that relate to structural integrity. Aesthetic improvements do not qualify for conserved grades. [The Official CGC Guide to Grading Comics-Chapter 7-Page 26]
@epicomicologycomics4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reference. Ironically, CGC has been handing out conserved labels for these books now. There is a whole discussion about it on the KaptainMyke FaceBook page. I will post the link below. The one thing I know is that CGC is unpredictable! facebook.com/groups/kaptainmykecomicpressing/permalink/2972129602928239
@sylversyrfer68944 ай бұрын
Awesome reveal!!
@sylversyrfer68944 ай бұрын
The ASM was “guilty by association.”
@404social5 ай бұрын
i came across your video because of a set i have in my box from when i was a kid, some 1995 reprints of superman and spiderman and batman vs incredible hulk. never had them out of the bags, and thought i may submit, notice superman had a dent on the back cover so watched your video. not confident in trying myself but man i found your video entertaining as hell. great 43 mins
@DaveSmedleyis935 ай бұрын
I'm going to set my two slabbed comics free. Not to regrade, they just should be read and appreciated. IMHO.
@BRJR123415 ай бұрын
HI, Will you have any more cleaning kits available???? Thanks
@PiecePusher_Comics5 ай бұрын
I have heard from others that submitting lower grade books with higher grade books will bring the higher ones down.
@mariofigueroa67765 ай бұрын
Question is how do you prevent the color rub. I buy a comic book put it on the board and then slide it in the bag together. Few months go by and still I’ll get comics with color rub on board. Any answers will be great thanks
@seanhartford13015 ай бұрын
How often do you burn yours when tack ironing?
@epicomicologycomics5 ай бұрын
I've never burned a book. As long as you keep the temp down and don't hold it in one place, it won't be an issue.
@WyomingSkysAboveMe6 ай бұрын
What mat is that specifically
@WestCoastDAVEngers6 ай бұрын
Oh look, cgc is inconsistent once again! Good job turning it from purple to blue! Great video 😎
@gabrielbien-willner25096 ай бұрын
What temp.do you use on the tack iron?
@epicomicologycomics6 ай бұрын
Great question... usually a 2.5. I don't go above a 3 for anything comic related. And you don't want to keep it in one place for long.
@bworkman19866 ай бұрын
my video
@btphillips796 ай бұрын
Can you use these same techniques on a foil cover?
@The9.9Newsstand6 ай бұрын
Sheesh. Thank you for taking the time to articulate and share this experience!! Very important video.
@jamesross8246 ай бұрын
How does it change in the census?
@epicomicologycomics6 ай бұрын
Unless I turn in the old labels, then both the Blue and the Purple will still show. I am also uncertain how frequently and consistently they update the census when labels are turned in.
@jamesross8246 ай бұрын
Master of the Arts.
@darthrooster16 ай бұрын
That ASM #7 graded at a 3.0 is criminal. There’s no way it should be that low. You’re also scaring me because I have a big book I was going to have cleaned and pressed and now I’m not so sure.
@DeusExAstra6 ай бұрын
I dont understand what is wrong with cleaning a cover. If you're just removing stuff that's not there originally, i.e. dirt/etc, and you dont remove stuff that should be there like, then what's the issue? If I discover a pristine book from 1940 that's perfectly white... are they going to give it a "restored" label because it's too clean?
@Comicbookyoutubersrock6 ай бұрын
There is nothing wrong with cleaning, dry cleaning. Which don't result in a purple label. It's been people clean using chemicals you get purple, rightfully so.
@sylversyrfer68944 ай бұрын
@@epicomicologycomicslooks “too white” compared to other copies out there. How can graders assume that this isn’t a copy that has been stored carefully for many years, with minimal exposure to air and thus minimizing oxidation. I think the use of “hunches,” and “gut feelings” in making a grading determination in the absence of provable restoration, is BS and has no place in professional grading standards.
@malus9116 ай бұрын
#129 is worth cracking. Good luck! Should have watched to the end. Great bump and thank god... Honestly, I think they should just keep it a blue label with a note saying, cover cleaned, unless, it's extreme/obviously like the Daredevil....
@acesontilt776 ай бұрын
Hey there I am diving deep into the PLOD mysteries. Love your videos love your thought process. I cannot agree more with your methodology as well. Im going to submit SIngle PLOD books to CBCS without doing anything to them and see what happens.
@Toughmudda6 ай бұрын
Wonderful video as always.
@epicomicologycomics6 ай бұрын
Thank you! Open to suggestions for other topics!
@gregparks17856 ай бұрын
Great work! It was really interesting seeing how you did it, and great end result!
@tmxcomics7 ай бұрын
You're being flagged like the TSA for the previous whitening lol. You are on the CGC watchlist
@rodnicker7 ай бұрын
Congrats on the big grade bump on that book.
@The9.9Newsstand7 ай бұрын
Yoooo 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 that was wild!!!!!
@epicomicologycomics7 ай бұрын
Yes, quite a rollercoaster! I am glad it worked out in the end, but it was a lot of time and money sunk into the book.
@malus9117 ай бұрын
Love how CGC is subjectively giving out purple labels. Ridiculous, and all you did was standard dry cleaning. One of my customers was dinged with purples for "cover cleaned". Granted, they were silver age and I was, like you, a little over zealous. Now, much more careful how much and on what books I'll do it. It's the standard dry cleaning ones that really piss me off. Good job...
@JM-jv6cb7 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to know how many hours you put in
@epicomicologycomics7 ай бұрын
I don't even really want to think about it! If I consider what I have on film, it's about 2-3 hours of hands on time. That doesn't include everything not on camera, the packaging, shipping, completing submission forms, etc etc etc. Unfortunately, with the time and costs invested, I think this project was a wash.
@TopComicsPressing7 ай бұрын
Sorry dude 😭😭😭. Thanks for sharing.
@jamesross8247 ай бұрын
I don’t believe in cleaning books it ruins the hobby.
@michaelcooper97257 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing this. I've been there myself on several books pushing the same processes too far. Your heart sinks when you find out it got hit with a PLOD and yeah, that feeling stays with you for the remainder of the day. I went the CBCS route too and although they did come back blue labels, they took such a hit in value that it would've been a loss either way. Lesson learned. This will be a very helpful video to a lot of people. Again, thank you for sharing!
@voodoomaestro42957 ай бұрын
I honestly don’t mind Purple labels if they are in the slight category. And I don’t mind green labels when it’s something small like a signature or small ad or MVS cut out.
@epicomicologycomics7 ай бұрын
If it was for my PC, I wouldn't have minded as much, but this was an investment book. I'm just frustrated that I didn't stop when it was a 5.0 purple.
@nowherebound29087 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience!
@adama13337 ай бұрын
Very helpful. Thank you
@daigoro7897 ай бұрын
interesting story and just wondering - will you send those old labels back to CGC / CBCS so that they can correct their census counts on what is indeed, a very important book?
@daigoro7897 ай бұрын
@@epicomicologycomics cool! i do often wonder how much lower census counts would be for bigger (and smaller!) books if everyone handed in their old cracked labels. i know they can be a nice keep-sake, esp if a grade bump is acheived, and i've held onto some for a while - but ultimately it leads to a distortion of figures that people, including myself, want to know as accurately as possible :P
@tmxcomics7 ай бұрын
I'm sharing this with all my customers who complain that the book didn't come back clean enough for them.
@epicomicologycomics7 ай бұрын
Ha! Good, maybe it will help at least one person!
@chuckeecheese1627 ай бұрын
How bad was it when it came back?
@voodoomaestro42957 ай бұрын
Another Great video! Those are so pretty. They definitely look pressed before. Just without any steam or humidity. Which you clearly demonstrated by the end results. I’m gonna say 8.0 on the ASM 14. Because of the tanning. And 7.0-7.5 on the ASM 4. The edges
@epicomicologycomics7 ай бұрын
Thanks! And yeah, these were in amazing shape to begin with!
Great estimates! I was apprehensive to estimate the ASM 14 at a 9.2 simply because I have never even held a raw copy from that era in that grade before!
@davidatiles85467 ай бұрын
Good to see you back w a new vid 👊 learned how to Dry-clean and evaluate books from your vids 2 years and I have been having success 👍 thanks big fan of ur work
@shawnconvey73237 ай бұрын
I think the roller marks were on #4 right? -- how do you go about removing black marks like that from tricky colors like yellow and red? Also it is hard to tell from the pix but was there any loss of color in the yellow from the treatment of those roller marks at all or not really? another great vid. thx!
@epicomicologycomics7 ай бұрын
Great question! In retrospect, I wish I had recorded that part. I will see if I can find another book to try that on. For the white areas, as you guessed, the pencil tip eraser works well. For the other areas, the absorene sponge works well. You just have to be VERY careful that you don't run to hard.