Thanks I appreciate it

I run H&N 34’s and Altaros 40’s. The Altaros are quite a bit more expensive and you have to run them slower but they do battle higher wind days better then the 34’s. I am tuned right now to run both so I can switch between them and only have to tweak the zero on my scope. I have that wrote down so I can just pop my scope turrets up, reset and I’m good to run the other one. Both are great slugs to use and are very accurate. I run the altaros at 944 and the H&N’s at 1030. Also the H&N’s due to expansion are a much better option as a hunting slug. It’s a great rifle for PRS and NRL I’ve spent a lot of time tuning, testing, building some custom parts and learning what I can do and can’t do when compared to the rimfire side.

@@Competitiveairgunning - Thanks for the info on slugs! I bought bunch of different weights and brands to test. I have several H&N variants. I have also ordered a slug press and dies. As much shooting as it takes to practice for competitions, I think it would be very handy to make my own as well, at least for practice. Where are you located? I'm in Nashville, TN.

@@haroldrushton6735a slug press is a must if you do a lot of shooting. I got one in my cart just haven’t hit the buy button. You don’t save a bunch from what I calculated but you gain consistency, quality control and the ability to customize and have access to slugs your gun shoots well. Dish base and boat tails are my favorites. I’m just south of Kansas City.

@@Competitiveairgunning - My main interest in making my own slugs is accuracy and consistency. (Looks pretty rewarding as well to make your own.). I'll let you know how it works out once I get the press here and work on it a bit.

Thanks I appreciate it I have put a lot of time behind this rifle. And I’ve been getting very effective in wind recently. I do a lot of dialing before matches for constant winds and use small holds to compensate or fine tune. I have to give a shoutout to Applied Ballistics they are absolute life saver for this sport. It’s extremely impressive what these Kestrels are capable of producing data wise when changing conditions are factored in.

@@Competitiveairgunning - I also have a Kestrel and Applied Ballistics I'm using for my Panthera. Looks to be the best way to go for sure! I've always generated my own ballistic cards in the past with a proprietary software a buddy of mine created years ago. But, it does not take environmental issues into account and has to be adjusted when changing elevations.

@@haroldrushton6735 it’s hard to justify the cost but as you start learning more and more features it becomes a lifeline. I use to do data cards and found out quickly how far my data would be off. I plan on doing a quick video on it before to long to over some of the basics and what I use most.

@@Competitiveairgunning - I agree! I remember shooting a World Championship match in Norway once and my data was nowhere near correct. I'm sure now that it was the elevation and temperature causing the issues. I'll definitely be using a Kestrel for my Panthera.

@@haroldrushton6735 how far do you travel for competitions? Will have to try meet and squad up at a match one of these days. Are you going to be shooting primarily NRL or PRS?

They are fantastic guns and honestly I’d be surprised to see any other gun shoot heavy weight slugs with the accuracy the way these pantheras. Don’t take what I said about impacting the barrel as a reason not to purchase. That’s my only flaw with it I’ve put tens of thousands of rounds through mine and have zero desire to change what I shoot. I haven’t experienced a POI shift all year, I’ve just taught myself to be more cautious when I am moving positions.

@@Competitiveairgunning yeah man but hunters bumb .etc i do allot .Nah 2000 euro+..tbh i dont give a fuck..2000 euro must be spot on ..bump a 2000 euro rife..wich is allot of money ...allot of money.and poi shift...my 850 euro gun dont shift-so fx ...Bye bye

@@Competitiveairgunning oke ..thx

It’s a barricade stop that I designed to house my magazine.

The PRS side is much more creative. The NRL everyone gets to practice the COF and shoot it as many times they can in a month and the COF are always fairly simple (the bonus stages are the only ones that can get tricky). The PRS no one gets to shoot any COF ahead of time and the match directors set ups can be as easy, hard, confusing or tricky as they want. That being said most of them are take into consideration the weather when setting up their courses and also pay attention to how many new shooters there are so it’s not to advanced. None of these match directors want anyone to not have a good time or struggle on to many stages.

Not sure why it’s not loading for ya. I know a few people have watched it already and I just tried it on a couple other phones and it loaded up.

Love this thanks for sharing good work out there !

I don’t pay attention how often if I’m being honest. I’ve probably ran a thousand rounds through it since the last time but I’m going to run a couple patches through it. Definitely anytime you take that barrel apart you can or will have a large POI shift. It’s the downfall of the pieces that go into that setup. Have you tested to see if you experience a POI shift if you mimic hitting the barrel on something?

@@Competitiveairgunning I haven't tested the amount of shift by barrel knock, however I have noticed a POI shift from knocking the barrel. A guy has to be super careful in the ladder and tree props to not make contact the barrel. So far I haven't used my Panthera in comp yet, but might do it in the May NRL 22 event? The gun seems to shoot well in practice, but still am getting consistent back to back grouping issues. thks

Running the amp regulator. I’ve debated on upgrading but figure I’d wait until this one fails

@@Competitiveairgunning So,Do you have regulator creep with AMP. If yes, how much bar creep? Thanks.

@@murathayta3211 Mine creeps from 250 to 240 - 235 ish bar in 2-3 days...edited spelling and added that overnight my digital gauge always climbs by 3-4 bar.

@@murathayta3211 I usually dont have any creep unless it’s due to have some work done on it. Once the piston is polished good, washers are polished good and the orings are replaced you can avoid the regulator creep. Factory parts are going to be scarred from being machined and orings may or may not seal properly from the machining, but a lil work with some polishing paper and it’s night and day difference.

That would have been a good video to watch.

Thanks I appreciate you watching and the compliment.

I refill after every stage. I keep it a habit so I don’t forget and let it end up costing me points. At matches and practicing I run a 74cu ft bottle. I have bigger bottles but I’ve yet to need them. However I do keep one with with me for backup just in case I spring a leak or something. By the end of a match I can continue to fill my gun at probably 270 bar on a decently warm day. If it’s cold out that number can drastically change. As far as how many refills I’ve never checked but I’ll try and pay attention. Ive never had to refill my main tank at a match unless I forgot to charge it or top it off before I left the house.

@@Competitiveairgunning thank you for real information that a .22nrl Rimfire shooter's would like to know before trying out a .22 air rifle for competition. I'm about to purchase a. 22 panthera. I have to figure out tuning and slugs. Any advice about tunes and slugs?

@@SpringGunner13 your welcome Glad my tips are helping ya get dialed in on your new venture. It’s addicting and fun. As far as tuning goes they are pretty easy I’d watch a video on KZfaq to get the basics and fine tune your slugs after that. I’ll make a video here before to long tuning. With slugs there is a ton of options depending on what cal you get into. I like Zan, H&N, javelins, as well as Altaros. Griffen is another solid option but I haven’t tried them yet. Where ya wanna be budget wise, if your wanting a higher BC, something to hunt with as well as shoot at a competition or if you’re worried about out of stock when you try to restock makes a difference. Some of them can be hard to get hold of with out large markups if you’re in a hurry. I’m about to start making my own before to long.

​@@Competitiveairgunning really, I was looking at the panthera and that's pushing it right now. They're pretty dang expensive. I was looking at jts .22 and .25. To start at least a fill tank and a rifle . I live close to a scuba shop that fills tanks. So unless you have some budget friendly entry level rifle IDEAS, let me know. Thank you ³

@@SpringGunner13 you are thinking of running JTS.22 or .25 cal pellets? You will fight wind pretty with that low of a BC but I’ve seen someone run one at matches before. If I was going budget friendly and running pellets I’d have an avenger. You can run light slugs as well to get a much better BC for better wind deflection and distance shooting.

I appreciate it your words. It feels rewarding to me giving out my own honest unbiased experience. I enjoy running these at matches almost as much as I enjoy meeting all the people I’ve crossed paths with since I started.

Congrats that’s a huge improvement… I’m glad some of the tips I gave ya helped ya advance. One of these days before to long we are gonna cross paths and meet up at the same match, gonna be a good time.

I backed it down a smidge from my last tune and am running at 944 right now. Ive tried a lot of speeds from 880-1015 and can tell you from my testing a hair over 950 is the fastest I’ve gotten them to group very well and it took a lil time to find that tune. The closer to 900 you get the more forgiving with a tune. The faster you get the more they require the tune to be closer to that sweet spot. But once I got past the 960’s there wasn’t a tune I could find that grouped good enough for me. Some of the groups were really good then comes a random flier(s) when testing at higher speeds. If I watched a chrono the speeds would end up looking similar this 970,975,972,932,973,975,945 and the faster you go the worse the your FPS string would look and the more random fliers you would get no matter what I did. Cleaning and lubing them would lessen the fliers by probably 25% or so but wasn’t good enough to justify the extra work.

Just got my slugs and ran out to test them. Shot good in the 900ish fps zone. I couldn't get my reg/hammer to settle down. What reg pressure/hammer tension are you running?

@@BraedonBriscoe keep an eye on your speed. These ones as you get over your speed threshold you will start getting fliers. And those fliers will coincide with random velocity changes. The higher in speed above where they want to shoot the more random velocity changes you will experience in a group. The settings on my 700 currently are at 2.25 and 17. Let me know how they do for ya.

@@Competitiveairgunning thank you, you running 170 bar reg?

@@BraedonBriscoesorry forgot to put the reg pressure in there. I’m at 150 currently. They seemed to like lower pressure compared to the higher pressure when I tested them.

I don’t run moderators with my panthera. I like to listen to it. Also I do to much moving positions at shoots and the extra length makes it easier to bump while moving. My hunting rifles I run moderators on though.

Lmao I can believe that. Be even harder if you had to shoot off it with the lid up after someone left a surprise. I haven’t seen a toilet stage surprisingly

Thanks, yea you are right they do flake off a lil more off the edges which makes it look bigger then it is.

I’d rather hold onto the STL for the time being but will pass it around before to long. But I’ll send you one. Look me up on Facebook James brownfield and send me a message. Not sure it’s to good to post to much info in a KZfaq comment

I’ll do a further video next trip out. Every time I get out and set up distance I set up targets real quick and shoot positional.

Thanks, The .22 pantheras are 1:16. It’s a good twist that will stabilize a large range of weights, might have to slow or speed up your projectile to accommodate the twist. 40’s are very good ballistic wise but you have to slow them down and finesse them a bit, not quite as forgiving tune-wise as the 33’s or 34’s. Lots of other high grain high BC options about to hit the market very soon.

What other high grain high bc options are coming out? I've been shooting h&n 40g but my accuracy has suffered. Going to try some 38g NSA next. ​@@Competitiveairgunning

@@BraedonBriscoe zan has some ELR .22 and .25 cal boat tails coming out. They have a much higher BC but got a couple more weeks at least most likely be late may I’m guessing. There is another popular name “possibly” coming out with some very soon as well just not sure where they are at. I’ve tried 40’s in other brands besides Altaros and haven’t got any groupings I’ve liked. I still run the .34’s all the time.

@@Competitiveairgunning awesome! I just ordered some Altaros. We'll see how they group for me. What speeds have you found to be best for them?

If you have Facebook look me up on there James brownfield or instagram “Competitive Airgunning” and send me a message probably don’t want personal info in a KZfaq comment.

I haven’t heard of a barrel indexing itself that’s a new one on me but honestly it doesn’t really surprise me. I don’t index my barrel, my own testings I haven’t seen any results that would make me want to do it regularly. And it’s kind of a pickle to hold the liner in a certain spot when screwing the liner lock in. I’m just not sold on it.

So much easier and faster to work with than dope cards.

Thanks, I had Many groups like that yesterday. These slugs paired with the right tune and right right twist rate are pretty incredible.

Sorry for the late reply. Been crazy the last couple days. I’d like to hold on to the SLT for a little longer in case one of them changes their mind and decides they want to run with it. I would like to get rid of the ones I got on the shelf first as well so I don’t sit on them.

Thanks I appreciate it. Thanks for your service that vessel you had the privilege of being on was a powerhouse and there is a ton of history behind that ship. History was my strong suit growing up. Thanks for following my channel

I’ll have to try and find that one. I’ve tried many different things last year and recently just put it on the back burner. Thanks for the info

It’s definitely an expensive hobby lol. You’re welcome I appreciate your input and you watching.

How your delta wolf shoot slugs? Just as good as pellets?

@@BT-st4ho I've only used pellets so far, I'm testing slugs next week.

@@scottcottontxare you happy with the accuracy of pellets out of your DW?

@@BT-st4ho Very. The Zan .30 pellets are laser beams and it also shoots the .177 JSB Monster Redesigns very well.

@@scottcottontxnice, what is the speed of those 56gr zan pellets?

This is a product that made. I took the adjustment bolt off my bipod and reworked it. It added 2lbs to the gun. If you want I could probably make you one. I spoke to MDT and showed them what I did while telling them it would be a good product for them to offer as I just leave my bipod on the rifle now. But I doubt they will do it. My current set up I can balance on a pop bottle lid about 4” from the action.

I may or may not have been filling my factory fx bottle to 300 bars already. I am happier knowing I have one that’s rated for 300. Filing to 250 with the weights I am shooting and the amount of shots I was taking seemed counter productive as I met up with reg pressure a bit too fast. Stay tuned though a friend of mine has something pretty interesting coming out for the panthera and upping the air capacity to an extra 400cc without losing hardly any front end height.

I haven’t taken it through an airport. But it comes right off with an Allen wrench. It definitely changes the look a lot.

@@Competitiveairgunning - I have traveled around the world with air rifles for competitions. I can tell you from experiece, in most instances, if you travel by air, don't make a big deal of it being an air rifle vs. "firearm." That opens a big can of worms regarding safety of the air tank, looking inside the air tank etc. You're better off just smiling when they say "oh, you have a firearm!" Things will go a lot more smoothly, at least in the good ole USA! 😁

@@haroldrushton6735 I can understand that especially since there are a couple states where they are considered firearms here. What kind of shooting do you do primarily?

No problem. I added a link to the bottle we used in the video description.

Thank you!

For bigger bottles, you can always use paintball bottles. Composite paintball bottles can hold up to 4500 psi and come in different sizes

I had a friend machine this one. I trust him when he says the metal he used will hold up to those pressures. I’m not sure on Sweden I ordered it from AliExpress. I added the link to the bottle in the video description.

It’s a barricade stop I designed and modeled. I’m gonna pop a video out on it tomorrow or the next day. It’s a cool lil thing, it’s also got a hidden feature.

I shoot the 34gr slugs and like to hang around 1025-1030. I’ve shot them from 1014-1040 and anywhere in that area they are happy. I had this bushing machined. I’ve got a buddy that is pretty keen on the lathe and always has a supply of metals laying around. The bottle I used was a compact its 66mm vs the standard 62mm. I put a link to it in the video description.

Yes on a normal sized bottle I probably would not of done it. But you can see how much shorter the neck was on the bigger bottle there were less threads well. The threads on the valve extended into the bottle past the bottle threads quite a ways, so I wasn’t worried.

@@CompetitiveairgunningWhat bushing did you use and can you provide any details on how you modified the throat to work?