Can we make Primal Prayers work in Timeless?
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@spark1128
@spark1128 26 минут бұрын
I wonder why Boros energy is doing so well in timeless whilst it’s not doing all so well in modern
@OldSchoolGM94
@OldSchoolGM94 5 сағат бұрын
Is Voice of Resurgence really better then Wight of the Reliquary? Following some of their boardwipes by going "here is a 6/6 vigilance" is pretty nice.
@davidcampbell6087
@davidcampbell6087 5 сағат бұрын
Did ropeline get any consideration?
@exraaa
@exraaa 12 сағат бұрын
I was just brewing something similar with a couple meathooks, grists, and reanimates! I haven't play tested it yet for lack of wildcards but I'm excited to try. Is ajani really not good enough without red? Even just the token production and ease of flipping it makes me want at least 2. I also have some priest of forgotten gods in but I think I'm cutting them for better interaction. I want to find a way to pay for an extra nightmare activation with priest though. Seems fun.
@KoraeTimeless
@KoraeTimeless 11 сағат бұрын
Ajani is good without a red permanent just not great - I think Marionette and Bowmasters are both better in the deck. Ajani could probably still go in the voice of resurgence slot. Grist is sweet, I had a different Lurrus list with Grist a while ago. And as much as I love classic Rakdos Sac and Priest of the Forgotten Gods - I agree that card is not on power level for timeless. I spent a lot of time looking for good lurrus-compatible sac outlets and there's really nothing better either.
@exraaa
@exraaa 11 сағат бұрын
@@KoraeTimeless Yeah I agree. Keep up the great content!
@joeysmith5767
@joeysmith5767 15 сағат бұрын
Ive been running a very similar version. I run Phlage with Nightmare. I also decided to run 1 bombardment over the 4th Nightmare
@PatrickMartinez1
@PatrickMartinez1 Күн бұрын
I've been dreading to see when someone eventually added shifting woodlands to show and tell. S&T is already so dominant, now it's even worse. 😭
@Toadstool4
@Toadstool4 Күн бұрын
game 5 opponent missed lethal. They need to lili themself and sac grief to get 1 damage off the wicked role. Then you die in upkeep to the one ring
@adamgoodman3117
@adamgoodman3117 Күн бұрын
Also with how low the curve and payoff is in this deck I think demonic tutor actually could be really powerful here instead of a 4th Atraxa. Since you can either use it to go into a turn 3 Reanimate on Atraxa (if you have frog down already or 1 in the yard) or find Ephemerate or Solitude if you need them. Also could definitely cut Suncleanser out of the board and move the basic plains there for the 2nd Hallowed Fountain since there aren't that many decks running maindeck Blood Moon and you already have a ton of great cards vs Boros Energy.
@123leviathan123
@123leviathan123 Күн бұрын
On second thought I would just cut 1 of the Surveil lands or the Triome. I don't think you can play 4 tapped lands in this deck tbh.
@KoraeTimeless
@KoraeTimeless 15 сағат бұрын
Good suggestion. Having all 4 Atraxas in the deck is probably too many. 2-3 Atraxas plus DT seems like the way to go.
@123leviathan123
@123leviathan123 Күн бұрын
Your round 1 opp is on my exact list that I had posted on reddit lmao. Got to the point in the video where I became sure of it so I'm not far enough in to know if they showed it off well or not though.
@KoraeTimeless
@KoraeTimeless 14 сағат бұрын
I saw that deck a lot on ladder and ended up building something similar. My video on it should be going up tomorrow. I don't think I ever saw your original reddit post, nice job coming up with a cool deck! My version dropped the goyfs and went a bit more all-in on getting value with Birthing Rituals and Chthonian Nightmare. www.moxfield.com/decks/xqHyI_LQo0-IK6CavHO2hw
@MikeCPharmD
@MikeCPharmD Күн бұрын
Perfect timing. I was just building an esper reanimator deck as well but I like the look of yours and think I will adapt to include some of your build. Thank you for continuing your work.
@KoraeTimeless
@KoraeTimeless Күн бұрын
I randomly queued into the original creator of the deck while recording. Its Match 2 at 35:45 if you want to jump ahead. What are the odds?
@tmGrunty
@tmGrunty Күн бұрын
I'm just trying out your version (I've played Boros before) and I'm liking it so far. Made a few changes because I like Goblin Bombardment so much that I'm playing 2 copies (I cut 1 Bowmaster for it) and I also run Lightning Bolt over Swords (I have 2 Swords in the sideboard though). Also changed 1 Bloodstained Mire for 1 Arena of Glory. I do have question though because I don't see the use of it. What is the Prismatic Ending for in the sideboard? At best you can exile a 3cmc permanent for 3mana with it but only at sorcery speed. And that just doesn't seem worth it to me plus I'm really struggling to see what you target with that you can't bolt or swords instead.
@KoraeTimeless
@KoraeTimeless Күн бұрын
You can realistically replace it with any other removal spell. Prismatic Ending is there because it hits any permanent, including chalice of the void. 1 mana to clear a chalice, an opposing static prison, or an opposing guide of souls is nice. But how many times has someone actually put a chalice out against you lol
@tmGrunty
@tmGrunty Күн бұрын
@@KoraeTimeless How does is clear a Chalice set to 1? Isn't it considered a 1cmc spell itself? Or does it count as 2cmc spell as soon as I select a second color and pay 2 mana? Also can you pay extra for it in case Amped Raptor hits it or is it stuck a 1 in that case?
@KoraeTimeless
@KoraeTimeless Күн бұрын
@@tmGrunty Yeah you can over-pay. If you pay X=1, its a 2 CMC spell on the stack. With Amped Raptor it will always be X=0, whenever you cast any spell for free, X is always zero.
@tmGrunty
@tmGrunty Күн бұрын
@@KoraeTimeless Okay thank you. Probably worth running 1 copy then. Question if whether I'd cut the 4th Thoughseize or the 2nd Swords to Plowshares to make room for it in the sideboard.
@Agent29416
@Agent29416 Күн бұрын
I think primal prayers will find a home at some point but I think it needs a bit more tinkering and probably needs its own core and not just the boros energy core.
@callofcthuwu2601
@callofcthuwu2601 Күн бұрын
Just curious, I'm checking out Timeless for the first time. What are the main reasons you love it?
@KoraeTimeless
@KoraeTimeless Күн бұрын
The games are super fast and skill-testing. You can literally lose games to your own bad decision making before you even cast your first spell, which keeps me engaged as a competitive player. The format is also relatively un-solved due to its lower player count and lack of tournaments, and we have every card ever up onto Arena to try and solve the meta with.
@callofcthuwu2601
@callofcthuwu2601 Күн бұрын
@@KoraeTimeless Oh wow that does all sound awesome! I'm working on building the rakdos aggro deck you did a video on so I can try out the format, thanks for your videos!
@griffinMTG
@griffinMTG Күн бұрын
Is it normal for energy decks to run deafening silence? I play a lot of show and tell and haven't ran into it. Too strong against s&t! Love your timeless content btw
@KoraeTimeless
@KoraeTimeless Күн бұрын
Yeah its super common. Its in all of my decks at least. Its the best 1 mana hate piece against S&T imo.
@tmGrunty
@tmGrunty Күн бұрын
Yes because not only is it great against SnT, it also shuts down Phoenix and Storm decks.
@CurseOfRNG
@CurseOfRNG Күн бұрын
Nice, always load the catling gun and fire away when able.
@tmGrunty
@tmGrunty 2 күн бұрын
That last opponent was a payed actor (or had a really bad sideboard).
@relite25
@relite25 2 күн бұрын
I think I fell in love with mardu Lurrus energy and your channel was the first result when I looked it up lol Love the gameplay
@btmalon
@btmalon 2 күн бұрын
Your vids remind me a lot of Douges the Maverick legacy player. I LOVE IT.
@AwwhHex
@AwwhHex 2 күн бұрын
Not ocelot going to see Jesus lmao🤣 also that mono black scam game was so close!
@jesussuperstar3406
@jesussuperstar3406 3 күн бұрын
Did they ban dt? Can't see it in the list
@KoraeTimeless
@KoraeTimeless 2 күн бұрын
Its restricted, you can play the one copy if you want. I was struggling to get enough red cards for Fury in the maindeck so I ended up not playing it. This deck does have a lot of redundancy and card draw in it so I don't think DT is a necessary inclusion.
@jesussuperstar3406
@jesussuperstar3406 2 күн бұрын
@@KoraeTimeless 2/2 knight from caves is fine imo
@KoraeTimeless
@KoraeTimeless 2 күн бұрын
@@jesussuperstar3406 I love that card (Inti)! I think he's much better in aggro decks than this deck tho. We need a density of cheap creatures attacking to take advantage of his ability.
@jesussuperstar3406
@jesussuperstar3406 2 күн бұрын
@@KoraeTimeless mdfc?
@NateJollay
@NateJollay 3 күн бұрын
This looks like a cool deck. I’m gonna give this a shot
@puraneshi
@puraneshi 3 күн бұрын
Love your vids! Got into timeless a couple of weeks ago and even went against you today on the ladder! Been loving timeless and glad you're creating such good content to spice up the format!
@KoraeTimeless
@KoraeTimeless 3 күн бұрын
I recognize your name, I think that game will be in a video in a day or two.
@GeckoS-gaming
@GeckoS-gaming 3 күн бұрын
Awesome tech dude! I've been working on the same problem with RB scam, only I tried a different approach to improving top decks by building it more aggressive with DRC (gameplay on my channel). I've also been playing mono Black and love Dark Rit/Ring/Sheoldred, so I'm loving this list! Thanks for sharing, will definitely give it a try!
@Venomenn
@Venomenn 3 күн бұрын
Oh man this only requires 1 billion rares and mythics to play? Neaat! JK love your videos man. Any chance you are going to play an Azorius or bant control anytime soon in Timeless?
@KoraeTimeless
@KoraeTimeless 3 күн бұрын
I'm not much of a control mage so probably not soon. I have an esper ephemerate video coming up in 2 days (not much of a control deck though)
@nocontent4487
@nocontent4487 3 күн бұрын
Agree on Troll. As a zoo main pre-MH3, you had to race it or draw Leyline. But post-MH3 energy decks often have enough tokens to block it, don't mind blocking if that helps them flip their Ajani, and have lots of life gain to give them an edge in the race. Very poorly positioned at the moment.
@KoraeTimeless
@KoraeTimeless 3 күн бұрын
I played a bunch more with the deck after recording and it does feel really sweet. The play patterns are really similar to the old Mono Black One Ring deck which makes me super happy. Kroxa also continued to overperform for me, it was originally in the deck just for red/black color count, but it won me several games. Hasty escaped Kroxa with Arena of Glory is disgusting! If you want to work on decks like this and talk about Timeless, join the discord! discord.gg/MqwJh7MUDn
@GeckoS-gaming
@GeckoS-gaming 3 күн бұрын
I love the 4 Fable / 4 One Ring for card advantage, feels like having your cake and eating it too
@blader400
@blader400 4 күн бұрын
🔥
@TheChigg
@TheChigg 4 күн бұрын
Small creator hype!
@kelvinamaraldesousa1368
@kelvinamaraldesousa1368 4 күн бұрын
Really cool showcase and decklist!
@Hegelianshitposting
@Hegelianshitposting 4 күн бұрын
do you think wildfire is good enough w/o flagstones in the format?
@maximecharest56
@maximecharest56 4 күн бұрын
That Second Sun combo is so cool. Nice deck.
@nocontent4487
@nocontent4487 4 күн бұрын
As an energy player, I appreciate you pushing folks to play burn into my Guide of Souls. 😁
@KoraeTimeless
@KoraeTimeless 4 күн бұрын
shhhh don't tell them
@saturninomonteiro884
@saturninomonteiro884 4 күн бұрын
Your win con is fae of wishes, u only have 2
@KoraeTimeless
@KoraeTimeless 4 күн бұрын
If you have a friend who wants to get into Timeless, feel free to send them this video! If you are a new timeless player looking to learn more about the format and become a better competitive player, join our discord: discord.gg/MqwJh7MUDn
@Mr_Dopey
@Mr_Dopey 4 күн бұрын
Why do you insult us Arena players throught this video?
@activityenjoyer
@activityenjoyer 4 күн бұрын
you're not casting a creature spell - you're activating an ability of a creature (i am not a judge but doesn't that sound right?)