Our pressing is bad because we leave a player open but palace does it and it keeps us at bay. City has Rodri alone in the mid third two defenders behind him every other player in the final third but ten hag does it and he leaves the team open? Ten hag can’t tell the players to run and give there all did you see wb yesterday running back?

Absolutely. And if he goes to Munich you’ll see that system work to perfection.

A simple question I'll ask are we as bad as you make it look on paper?

IMO, it just highlight how a manager can take three months to take an underperforming team and give them an identity and turn underperforming player into something decent the polar opposite of this manager. As for bruno this game would have been the same if not worst he isnt brilliant in possession so their tactic wouldnt have change nor would the result

@@ALEX-ut4ppwe going to pretend new manager bounce isn’t a thing

@@ALEX-ut4ppI believe a lot more passes behind the line of defence would have happened, giving Rasmus the responsibility to use his strength. He got next to nothing as always.

Bruno would have just kept loosing the ball against the palace pressing. Bruno is a counter attacking footballer with zero press-resistance or dribbling ability.

This has been the solution for the past 10 years and we always end up here. Happened with LVG, Jose, Ole, Ragnick and it will happen with the next manager. It would be nice to see us try something else.

@@Zamunda- Difference is we actually got some real owners now who want us to improve, if we cant improve our playing style, even if the players are awful, its better to just restart the process under new owners and go from there

I love the question

This... 100%

Ten Hag is damn fool to play AWB in LB when Dalot is very comfortable playing as a LB

Well, let's say this way that if INEOS keep ETH, then either it is purely for financial reasons and uncertainty to get an upgrade or even at par level of manager as ETH in this manager merry-go-round OR INEOS are very thoughtful and see it from a rational perspective that the manager is not the biggest problem. I think ETH might not be perfect or even a great manager, but he certainly isn't the biggest problem. But, at the same time, I don't have enough strength to defend him anymore like I did maybe till February

its like your tyres flat and you change the engine

I just feel that he's in an impossible situation because these players will still play shit even with any other system/tweaks, you have 30 year olds who are half injured anyway going up against hungry pacey wingers in their prime. Not even Pep could salvage this and I bet if we played super defensively, he would still get shit because 'It's not the United way'.

@@mikester4896 yeah I think there's pressure, it's at least he'll have seen that ole was expected to move away from counter attacking - but that's a long term approach and maybe he doesn't have that time if he hasn't already run out

People say he isn't pragmatic which is the biggest lie I could ever digest. Remember the 4-0 trashing of Brentford, he realised that the technical and physical acumen of this squad is very low and he absolutely had to throw his possession ideas to the bin and adapt to the players. So, since that 2-1 win over Liverpool, his entire tactics last season were there to suit the players available. I absolutely agree that he has had tactical flaws this season but doesn't this show that our players aren't capable of playing in an expansive system were you actually need to be technically and physically strong!? Sometimes I feel ETH is doing the right thing by exposing these players. Bring in anyone you like, these players will fail everyone. While other clubs have built a team to play a system, our club is just an accumulation of different types of average players of different styles and age groups. Recipe for failure if you want to implement a system

Imo, his only biggest and most grave mistake was to push for Antony. Still, people don't understand why he did that. It was because we didn't have one single left footed attacker in the squad (Greenwood was out). Also, it was the board's mistake that they gave ETH the authority of the entire transfer strategy which just shows how incompetent our recruitment team is. If people blame the manager for overpaying for a player, then they can't be any more wrong. Casemiro wasn't really his signing, it was another panic signing. Martinez was absolutely brilliant until he got injured. Malacia was a decent option for €14M, but again injured. We overpaid for Højlund but he, Sesko, Kolo Muani and Ramos were the only top young STs in the market so that fee was justified. Onana's signing really made sense as De Gea's contract was up and it was time to move on after 12 yrs, yes it could be debate whether it should have been that a priority. Mount, again can't really judge because he has been injured. Eriksen, Dubravka, Butland, Sabitzer, Weghorst, Evans, Amrabat, Reguilon were either free or loan signings. Having almost equal loan signings than actual buys just shows at which horrendous level the clubs recruitment has been. Bring in Pep if you like, but it won't mean anything if the backstage setup is such

​@@user-ig1ps2mr2r Amad was here before Antony, but we never gave him a chance.

@@user-ig1ps2mr2r I’m glad you are another fan with sense. People keep overlooking the mess he deals with behind the the scenes and the manager shouldn’t be doing a DOF’s job, recruitment teams job, whilst doing his own job with all the problems that already exist. Ten hag asked for players to be sold and they are still at the club, Jose even said the same thing. The job is impossible to succeed in if the team around him are incapable of doing their jobs properly. Every year and every manager we have we break records we don’t want to and that can’t be solely down to the manager. For the people saying he’s made bad decisions, well of course he has, if you’ve been in a toxic environment long enough you are bound to start making decisions that aren’t right. Ole came out and said most of the players didn’t want to be captain and some players didn’t want to play in certain matches but we are here with the same players repeating the cycle.

@@user-ig1ps2mr2rno no. Antony made sense at the time. Nobody was playing on the right - arguably United haven’t had a direct right winger since Nani. Antony’s profile is correct. He just has no quality. That’s why they’re going for Olise. He’s a direct winger with more quality than Antony. The one that completely made no sense was Mount. I completely agree with your last sentence as well.

The club has spent 400m in two summers since he came in. And to add to that, most of the players who played that game were players who were signed by him, so we can't make the common excuse of players downing tools. There's something at play here, and the best guess is bad coaching.

How?

@@thaboseane502 do you not see all the running out players need to do?

@@coreyboachie But then we're not technically proficient enough to play Cityball with the full strength squad. Don't forget other teams have struggled with injuries this season but we've just had the worst of it coming off the back of a brutal season last year.

@@mikester4896so then his lack of rotation becomes a problem once again

Almost all the PL teams are better on athleticism In comparision MU players are smallish

And you can see why we have so many injuries. ETH has been trying to condition this lot to high physicality and seems as though they’re all made of feathers.

Like bringing in a new manager is going to change anything the players have shit mentality even Klopp would flopp with a squad like MU. In MU the players decide how they want to play instead of the manager if ETH pushes them too hard they have a mental breakdown and can't seem to play football anymore

@@Justlookingaround19 you are right though. But this team has no style of play.. leaving acres of space in the midfield while players run through. That is something the manager should have address before it get to this stage. Leverkusen were down last season before Alonso took them 6th and this season they are unbeaten. That is progress with good game pattern which teams haven’t figured out. Even though MANU players are shit. They should not lose like they do to smaller teams. It is an embarrassment

@@onpoint1421 This team has no style of play because there isn't a style of play that can make them a cohesive unit as they've been panic bought for several different managers. Paid over the odds for players because they dithered and dallied early on. Wouldn't pay the money for 1st choices, then end up paying 80 for Antony, 60 for Casemiro, 55 for Mount (would be free this year), 70 for Hojlund (worthy purchae, but not for 70). Cut the overspend & failure to move on players not upto it and who knows, might have been able to sign a defender comfortable on the ball and can pass precisely; a midfielder who can trap a ball and pass it, rather than running forwards and marking himself out of the game when we're in possession, a winger that can use both feet or, hell, put a cross in the box every now and then as their first thought, not when they've ran down a blind alley and allowed the opponents to get back into shape.

So Maguire, AWB, McTominay & Amrabat (for example) are capable of playing like City or possession based teams do? The answer is no to any one of four of them. The only one player that hasn't been a regular is Amrabat and that's because he's unable to play in the PL. Then we have Antony who seems to have been a competition winner when in possession. Casemiro who has got his lazy twin to play for him. Evans only back in training this week. Mount playing his first full game after long term injury. Eriksen whose legs have all but deserted him (can still do a job on the ball). These are the players that have had to be relied upon. None of them can play together and produce consistent performances for 45mins at a time, let alone a full match/stringing a sequence of games together.