remember check recommended turns by manufacturer! min 2 for Rockshox
@lukeschaeffer255110 күн бұрын
You give the best explanations EVER! Can't find anything like it for street motorcycles - in particular, no one does a great job of covering hi speed for street riding.
@bike_czech15 күн бұрын
@VorsprungSuspension thank you for the video. very helpful to see interaction between HSR and LSR. Question: is it safe to do this tuning method on Cane Creek Kitsuma. My worry is that range of adjustments is quite wide on that shock and if I completely close the HSR circuit I will damage the shock or decrease the longevity of it or internal components, since oil will be forced to flow mainly through the LSR circuit. Thank you. :bow:
@alfrednOObel2Ай бұрын
In the intro you say that we don't care about the leverage ratio in terms of shock doing the work, but doesin't it affect how rebound works? If the leverage ratio is higher, the rebound will be weaker, so I suspect that it will not be as fast as with lower ratios. Am I figuring it out right?
@kankan44552 ай бұрын
Excuse me, why is there a resistor and battery in your suspension sir?
@Linearleverage712 ай бұрын
The moral of the story is if you have a bike ride the hell out of it!! I love single pivots,gonna ride The hell out of it!
@SpiritLwerewolf2 ай бұрын
Where's the super mario intro... f***ing youtube. It's still gold.
@procore1233 ай бұрын
Amazing and true!!!
@macaroana014 ай бұрын
Is the 38 27.5 180mm Float air shaft compatibile with a 38 29 170 Factory fork? I want to increase the travel on the 29 fork. Thanks
@tenztops46364 ай бұрын
From one bro to another, you got good looks
@steveedwards52804 ай бұрын
"department of redundancy department" deserves more recognition than it got.
@rider654 ай бұрын
Another question; How does fluid amount affect stack height? Does fluid volume need to reduce or increase upon stack changes?
@rider654 ай бұрын
My head is spinning! Rate of flow...volume of flow... spring rate (bend point) of shim stack... So in depth and complex Steve. Thank you for the tutorial
@darkviews95904 ай бұрын
Why does my 34 2017 Fox Air Shaft look different? There is no such metal plate above the rubber "olive", instead, there is a metal plate right under the upper part and the "olive" is just "aline" on the shaft. The rest looks the same, with the bigger silver thing at the lower end. Why are the air shafts so different? Mine is from a Scott Spart (C8S6 is the ID) and is shouldn't be custom, besides the decals.
@suw18375 ай бұрын
can you make a similar video for XFusion silde boost 34 RC?
@intrutoro5 ай бұрын
Hi, Wonderful video. I have a Trek Fuel ex * 2016 with this type of rear shock. I wonder if the service kits for it (oil seals, plastic rings, rings, etc) are the same as for the same measurements models without the reactive system? Any idea. Thanks in any case.
@gaspertolar79505 ай бұрын
hello! could yo maybe make an episode anout rockshox/trek through shaft system? would be really interested to see that.
@Kenevoslcomp7775 ай бұрын
I like very slow rebound but need it to move fast when needed how would a shim stack play into this to tune it that way?
@Ridedialed5 ай бұрын
Progressive rebound stack. This provides fast rebound on small bumps at lower velocity and slower rebound for bigger compressions with higher velocity
@EMTBAFV5 ай бұрын
Alot would disagree that sag isn't important on an mtb but riding sag is even more important, whare you sag sits when riding the trails etc a pro was just explaining all this in last video
@EMTBAFV5 ай бұрын
Fox do a shame upgrade if you go to them in England completely rebuild your shim stack but these are 38 performance elite they do have issue's compared to a normal fox factory 38! Someone jsut done a 50 hour rebuild on one he's not impressed I run a 38 170mm with fit4 damper love it!
@matthausfrick59716 ай бұрын
Really great video! I´m looking for a substitute for the Fow Red 10wt for my shock damper and this video helped me understand what´s important. If you know a possible replacement product that would be very much appreciated.
@nilog85876 ай бұрын
Does the preload affect my lowspeed rebound ? I felt like I was between 2 clicks of lsr and increased just 2 clicks of preload now the slower setting feels just on Point.
@LaurenceGough6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. So dropping a couple of teeth on the front chainring really is of no concern apart from perhaps a slightly less active rear suspension when pedalling.
@elias89817 ай бұрын
Is it possible to make the coil shock a bit more progressive without changing the frame design ?
@itsalldhfromhere7 ай бұрын
As a heavy (110kg kitted) rider on an ebike who likes to jump, big drops and smash down heavy hills, do you recommend the Smashpot or the Secus? Currently have a ZEB select, and will upgrade internals depending on with I coil, or if I get secus, I will upgrade to buttercup internals as well. Love the pop/ playfullness of an airspring, but wondering if coil would be better suited for my weight? I just dont want to lose the predictability of an airspring and bottom out on big hits.
@tobiasdonner62688 ай бұрын
I ride said Nicolai G16 Large for 6,5 years now and can confirm that there is weight on the hands also the stack is super low compared to the reach. I‘m 192cm and should be riding XL, but I‘m glad I went for L at that time. I had switched to 38mm fork offset early on to get more weight on the front wheel and I also brought the bars up quite a bit. My takeaway is that FC/RC balance is key. That means if you want to have a easy manualing bike that is also balanced you‘ll have to go for a shorter reach as well. Assuming a manual benefits from shorter chainstays, shorter reach and higher stack it seems to me that the shorter reach approach can easily backfire by overdoing it. It took the Black Friday sales opportunity to buy two Propain Spindrift 27,5“ frames M @ 450mm reach and L @ 475mm reach both @ 435mm chain stays to figure this out. I will also go with a 75mm riser bar because I’m 192cm tall with a rather normal 86cm RAD, and I think shorter reach with a high stack fits me better. Thanks a lot for the superb content! BR Tobias
@alexandergavrilov54918 ай бұрын
How to calculate the damping speed?
@alexandergavrilov54918 ай бұрын
Hi, how do I calculate the speed of a spring? Should its stiffness be divided by its compression stroke or should the mass that presses on the spring be divided by the compression stroke?
@ksyz008 ай бұрын
now, you haven't seen RB-bikes IQ with something like 50cm yoke.
@herlinastevens94748 ай бұрын
is there a smash p[ot kit for the 190mm zeb
@BADBILLY7 ай бұрын
I think they top out at 180mm
@collinellis34409 ай бұрын
Such a good video
@Cg-fh5re9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much. First source that made me understand the Grip cartridge
@ThunderStruckMTB9 ай бұрын
Would this HSR full closed and using LSR for control 'hack' be applicable on a new model Fox Grip 2 VVC HSR and VVC HSC fork?
@VorsprungSuspension9 ай бұрын
No - it is NOT applicable to the VVC adjustment mechanism either in the forks or the shocks.
@ThunderStruckMTB9 ай бұрын
@@VorsprungSuspension Got it! Thank you for the reply.👍
@huckthat2 ай бұрын
@@VorsprungSuspensionThanks, had the same question. Perhaps you could provide a new video explaining why, show us some dyno data, and what the tuning/setup process looks like for those dampers? Thanks!
@hallockstuart789910 ай бұрын
You should check out the Vo2 master if you want to measure the riders true efficiency!
@myscreen2urs10 ай бұрын
I'm trying to get a softer experience from my rear shock. Are you saying that it's better to go with a shorter coil for that?
@kw979910 ай бұрын
"sideways?" Show me sideways. Please tell me you're joking.
@VorsprungSuspension10 ай бұрын
What specifically are you referring to? Not joking about side loading (ie eccentric loading) from yokes if that's what you're talking about.
@kw979910 ай бұрын
@@VorsprungSuspension Hey steve, it's Kevin (kidwoo). You mentioned sideways mounts on shocks, I'm picturing a fastener running perpendicular to traditional...like front to rear? Just didn't know what you meant.
@emtbadam11 ай бұрын
Great video, really enjoy your content, as a long term Mtber its nice to see someone that can explain the complexity of suspension and make it make sence. Cheers Steve 🤘
@BeauPesic11 ай бұрын
Thank you Steve. Been chasing my tail trying to get a good set up playing with hsr and lsr. Can finally understand how it works. Can’t wait to try this method
@islandershome7126 Жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for perfect educative series. I watched all your videos, however I still could not grasp one concept. How negative spring works, why it helps with initial stroke at all. Currently, DVO makes forks with adjustable negative coil preload. I have a fork with interchangeable negative coil and tunable negative spring preload (SR SANTOUR AURON). But I have no idea how to set up that for best results. Manufacture does not provide any setup information. They provide just chart with negative spring rates vs. positive air pressure. No explanation, no theory behind it. DVO at lest says: “OTT allows the rider to fine tune the small bump sensitivity without affecting the mid-stroke or end-stroke. As a general rule of thumb, the heavier or aggressive rider will use more air pressure & more OTT. A lighter or less aggressive rider will use lower air pressures and less OTT.” However, it is preload, not spring rate. Does higher spring rate of negative and positive spring result in lower overall break away force? How progressive negative spring influence fork travel, ... Could you please shad some light in to this? Thank you.
@MrPasha-kq4tc Жыл бұрын
How do you calculate critical damping and can you please suggest some book for more details from where you are explaining the things... Waiting for any answer
@alincdhr Жыл бұрын
#vorsprung 🤘
@markheckendorn4224 Жыл бұрын
Hello. Love the video I do have a question. I screwed up and while rebuilding my float shock, my rather large clumsy dog, ran around the corner and knocked my table over, which in turn knocked everything off the table. So my shim stack went everywhere. I did take a video of the boostvalve area all together. It was still together when it fell over. So I don’t have any idea of the order they go. I’ve tried fox and other places, and either they didn’t know, fox for ex. Or just would not tell me. I’ve looked all over the web for images specific to my shock tune. But have not been able to find anything. Also, my local bike shops I’ve called don’t even mess with rebuilding shocks. You seem very knowledgeable and was wondering if you know where I could look to find the order of the shims. The shock is a fox float RP23 boostvalve with rebound XL. velocity L and boostvalve 150. Thx you
@chrish8871 Жыл бұрын
Ah, so low speed affects high speed and takes the same high speed curve with it. 💡
@teewuane Жыл бұрын
This is a great video, can you please clarify "minimum" and "maximum"? I'm assuming minimum resistance, aka fully open, and maximum resistance, aka fully closed? Closed being fully turned clock wise to close, and open being fully turned counter clock wise? I just want to make sure I understand your lingo correctly.
@teewuane Жыл бұрын
With the rebound, how does the damper mechanically know to go into high speed vs low speed. Does it know that the high speed compression circuit opened up so while that is open it holds open the high speed rebound circuit open as well? Or how does it know when to open the high speed rebound?
@RobParkinVideo6 ай бұрын
When the velocity of the shaft gets high enough, ie at the very end of the stroke when the spring is most compressed.
@tobiasdonner6268 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Do I get you right here that the more fitness I have (ability to stabilize and dampen my body=main part of the unsprung mass) the less rebound dampening I can ride and get closer to an optimal dampening for the sprung mass? Thanks! BR Tobias
@VorsprungSuspension Жыл бұрын
Not really actually. The rider's ability to respond is heavily frequency-limited to well below the frequencies the wheel can move at, regardless of fitness. The optimum amount of damping isn't just for the wheels.
@tobiasdonner6268 Жыл бұрын
I confused the two masses… Sprung mass = rider + “bike” Unsprung mass = “wheels” What I meant was that the more fit you are the better you can dampen the sprung mass. Then you can set the rebound more close to the optimum dampening for the unsprung mass (faster rebound). What do you think about that? Do Pro riders run their rebound faster or slower than the average guy? Thanks!
@VorsprungSuspension Жыл бұрын
@@tobiasdonner6268 I understood you, the answer is still the same.
@hugotribanas Жыл бұрын
would love to see you scientifically dissect O-Chain active spider. Do you have knowledge on that product?
@JustSnowglow Жыл бұрын
Every Tuesday I think of Steve and wonder what he's tuning today.
@watsonthedog264 Жыл бұрын
years later this series is still the best for explanation of different components of suspension setup, y’all killed it
@levylovits Жыл бұрын
Im here for motorcycle suspension and i love these videos. Great job explaining. See if you could get a computer simulation on the sin waves for different speeds and damping. Question if you change spring preload does that affect rebound? Will faster speeds also make you want to adjust rebound or compression or preload? Stiffer suspension means uncomfortable slower speeds but planted as a rock faster speeds. Love your videos