Hey! No, we don't have simulators for it - but what do you mean by "using it all'italiana"? C'è forse una tecnica segreta che ci siamo persi? 😁

Oh, I never heard about that one! What a pity it closed... And thx for the comment! P.S. It was definetely dumb, but not THAT dumb 🤣😅

When I look at items in museums, I don't think the distinction between spiedo and partisan is that clear, and they are labelled as a partisan (although the Wallace collection does list a few Spetum = Spiedo that look out of Marozzo images). I also understand that the Bolognese partisan is supposed to have hooks at the base for catching on the draw, compared to others that have the side hooks to catch on the push, at which point they are an effective spiedo. So that adds to the confusions in classifying these polearm from a morphological perspective. Classifying them based on their use makes more sense to me in HEMA, so they are a partisan if you use them in connection to a partisan system. At least that's how I think about it.

@@FiliiMartis There is a lot of confusion when it comes to the designation of pole arms, especially with the modern translations into German and English and the designations in museums. It seems to me that something changed or was switched at some time, I kinda suspect the 19th century... But who knows. Anyways: We decided to stick to the designations and images found in Marozzo, and there the image of the partesana clearly shows no hocks and it is used for thrusting only, while the spiedo clearly has them and is used for cutting too. Marozzo also talks about them in the section about the Spadone/ Spada da due mani (e.g. Cap. 177, rule 3). So, summed up it seems he was consistent with that distinction.

It works quite well until now - it's always super fun to play your pole arm in this tournament. 😄I think, adding pole arms to your training does actually not require that much commitment - you can learn the basics in no time. This is one of many reasons why they probably were used so much. You can give them to literally anybody and he will be able to do considerable damage without much knowledge or training. Also, it is different enough from swords and its relatives, so it won't confuse you or mess with your stance if you focus on a specific style ecc. Training sidesword, rapier, longsword and spadone at the same time sounds much more difficult from that perspective 🤯

Actually, it is still practiced.

@@balazskertesz5010 But not the version where they actually get scars on their face, and it's definitely not more popular or well known than HEMA.

They probably also believe reverse grip works... 😏

That must have been a really annoying conversation 🥲

15yo me shocked when i was hear that normal sabre was like 650-1100 gram ..., yes i was thinked it was around 3-5kg. Now, im over my 30 and im a little bit better "infomed" 😄

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Honestly, I don't know what the political spectrum of the associations in question is. But people that gave me those comments in Austria always talked about 'conservative and far right wing' student associations. And they also mentioned that apparently only guys are allowed in.

Well yes and no. Mensur or Pauken (depending on where you live) is itself neither rightwing nor extremist. HOWEVER most fraternities who still abide to the compulsory mensur often belong to a network of highly conservataive male centric organisations. Those again in itself are not rightwing, but are a breeding grouds and collectors of right wing ideologies. The main issues here are that those organisations abideing to it, are fraternities and not student assosiation. Fraternities due to their make are rather attractive to certain individuals who often habour conservative to rightwing ideals. When I joined the uni, my dad gave me connections to his old fraternity. The CV, a highly catholic fraternity. While they are "nichtschlagend" so Pauken is not only not compulsary but also not part of the fraternity. However their principles were 1. Religio: Beeing compelled to be catholic, abide by catholci doctrine and their moral guidelines. 2. Scientia: Which is rather funny considering the first part, but you abide to the idea of lifelong learning. 3. Amicitia: Beeing "compelled" to help each other even outside university 4. Patria: Beeing tied to honoring ones homeland (although due to historic reasons that is not in all organisations within the CV the case). I did not join, as I am an atheist and am not allowed to anyway - but even a rather centric organisation like the CV, is attarctive to nationalis religious types. Take Germania as a larger organisation. They are not religious but their motto is "Honor, freedom and Fatherland". Which considering it is a german organisation, has some form of aftertaste. And while I do not think all organisations within the Germania have right wing tendencies, the umbrella organsiation the Burschenschaft Hamburg Germania has it's political roots (with leading people beeing members) in the rightwing extremist party NPD. And they have been classified by the military intelligence organisation as well as the domestic intelligence organsiation as rightwing extremist organisations untill 2021. This has been known and an issue since 1993 and has been on the watchlist from 2014. Now are only classified as radicals after they fought a court case. To show how close they are to rightwing ideologues, their fraternity house in Hamburg was the legal seat for the "deutsche Rechtsbüro" a legal firm known to take cases for indicted right wing criminals as well as a known spot for members of the Neue Front (one of the largest right wing extremist orgasnisations in the late 90s early 00s) Very similar to the Germania, is the Thessalia Prag(still wearing black white and red as their colours), the Rheinfranken , as well as the austrian fraternity the Burschenschaft Olympia. I mention them, because they are are classified as right wing organisation and all beloning to the same umbrella, the Deusche Burschenschaften, Why to I put such an emphesis on the Germania and the Deutsche Burschenschaft. They all are pflichtschlagend (compulsary mensur), pure fraternities AND are largly classified as right wing. So no - Pauken is not far right. But all orgasnisations who still have compulsary fighting in their bylaws(from once per unitime to 3 times per semester), are generally speaking right wing. So what we can generally say is that people who practice the mensur, are much more likely to belong to orgasnisations with ties to far right groups, if not beeing one themself. I did participate in HEMA during uni - and we had some frat boys comming in beeing all tough because they fight with sharp Paukzeug(what in HEMA terms is very similar to the rapier). But because Pauken is trained rather static, they did not realy stand a chance, never comming back. And yes, you did get very mysogonistic and right wing vibes from them. One who left before any training, refused training with a woman on grounds of her beeing a woman. Yea while they are not all far right wing, all I've met were highly and openly conservative, with the largest organisations practiseing the mensur in it are not only classified as right wing radicals (not extremist - different classification), but some are under observation by intelligence organisations as unfriendly to the constitution.

@@alberich3099 Thank you for your insights and the information!

@YellowLab-rb6xn love how you are unable to actually read what I said, that deserves an award.

Uh, that's so true. Never hand them the expensive ones! Myself included... Maybe this is why my friend got me a rubber knife as my first HEMA-present... It all makes sense now. 🥲🤣

Ah, well, they often throw the "knight" card at you! 🙄Maybe they meant it as a compliment. Honourable knight, playing fair, rescuing damsels in distress... If only they knew... 🤣

I'm sure if there would have been one in that gym we would have done exactly that... 🤣🤣🤣

That's a very good question but really not easy to answer. As always it depends a lot. In our case tournaments were off the table for a long time because there simply were none in our area for our weapon and also, we are not very happy with most rulesets and practices that have been developped so far... We personally value weapon control, sportsmanship and general fitness most when it comes to our tournament participants. If you got all three I personally would suggest you can try a tournament, no matter how long you have been active, because you are likely not endangering yourself or others and you are ready to learn from the tournament fights. Some might be ready after a few months of training, others are still not there after 10 years... Generally we observe that most people in Austria/ Italy participate very fast in tournaments (half a year active, one year ative...). The four participants in the video were all in between 2 years active in HEMA/ first tournament, up to 20 years active/ multiple tournaments as far as I know. But compared to most HEMA-tournament-rules this ruleset is very... special xD

As far as I remember, I enrolled in my first tournament after about 2 years and a half of HEMA/ sidesword training. I personally would say rule of thumb: 1-2 years of at least two training sessions a week including sparring sessions... But as the first comment of our club states: It really depends. Greetings, Elisabeth :)

@@MarozzolostinVienna ​ @OrionNumya Thank you guys for the feedback. I'm not there yet, but maybe I should start thinking about participating in a tournament as a personal goal of sorts.

@@FiliiMartis Make sure to have fun and stay healthy, then just go for it! :)

I mean... Why not! 😂Go get them!!!😁

Hello and thanks for the comment :) Yes, it's a custom Regenyei. I wanted to have as little hilt as possible while having maximum hand protection, that's why I had him add the extra part. I've never had an issue with the length of the handle of any sidesword so far... Until now it was like: if the sword is balanced well, I don't care how long the handle is. I bought Red Dragon gloves recently, and that was the first time I really encountered a mobility problem - but not because of the handle. It's the upper part, where I would have to put my finger over the crossguard. While wearing the gloves, I lost almost all the mobility in my wrist (because of the thick padding), and additionally, I couldn't use my fingers anymore to control the tip. That way, you automatically end up in a much more "sabre-like" style of fencing. I will try to modify the gloves now - maybe I will do a video about it if it works out :)

@@MarozzolostinVienna I was looking at a Regenyei rapier at some point (cuz Martin Fabian uses one in his videos and he makes it look easy :) ). I wanted the simple hilt, but the way the construction makes use of twists to build the quillon block was a no for me. With prices going up in the mean time, this is not a quick, cheap pickup. Now, I think there are better options on the market, price and aesthetics wise. Besides, my plan is to stick with dall’Agocchi, Manciolino and Marozzo, then maybe visit Meyer’s rapier/side-sword, before I start picking up some Capoferro and Fabris (and return to side-sword via Anonimo-B.) I have a 8 cm grip on a side-sword (no knuckle-bow), with a wheel pommel. For large cut like motions (e.g. squalembrato), it works really well! But I changed it with an olive pommel (advantages of a nut system; I switch between) and I found out that it works better for wrist cuts (i.e. tramazzoni). That’s why the longer grip intrigues me. I don’t think this aspect is a factor for longer grips, or maybe with sparing gloves on. I’ve also played with sharp side-swords and I found out that the the smaller grips and wheel pommels help with edge alignment (so no surprise squalembrato cuts feel good). I don’t have a sharp with an olive pommel to compare… I assume one needs to be more careful in achieving edge alignment. But I do find that (in the absence of a knuckle-bow) I can do finer grip manipulations (e.g. pinch the blade like for rapiers, or thumb on the blade like on messers) with an olive pommel. It could also be that I’m too green to know better (being green is not under debate, just the shade of it ;) ), or that I’m at that stage where I mix different things since I want to find out more and more aspects (I’m starting to be a bit more structured studying Manciolino). But all these “tests” of mine were done without a glove. I got a low padded glove and I feel like I need to get used to holding the sword again. So yes, please do a glove video, maybe even a glove on vs. glove off assault and let us know how you think a glove affects the art. P.S. And no pressure, but keep the videos coming. And address them for noobs -- I like that! Besides, there are a handful of HEMA experts, but about 8 billion potential HEMA noobs. :D

Much appreciated! ^_^

Thank you so much! ^_^

Yes, we really should!!! Working hard on it, I hope I find the time ^_^

Thx, that's kind of you, but being a small channel with content on a niche topic of a niche sport I think it's not gonna get that much better ;) If you're serious and have an idea though, you can contact us via pm on one of our socials and we can get in touch.

@@MarozzolostinVienna I sended a message on messenger