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@RaulRamirez-pc7zw 5 күн бұрын
I think he meant number 1 piston at the compression stroke, not the exhaust stroke
@Cloyes01 5 күн бұрын
Nope, this engine is timed on the exhaust stroke.
@user-iw3vs5lp9d 10 сағат бұрын
This is my second time doing this timing chain. On my 2007 2.4 G6 it was TDC on Compression on my 2008 2.4 G6 it is TDC on exhaust...it also says this in my Haynes Manual.
@ddb722 5 күн бұрын
It helped a lot thank you
@BrianWilliams-d2bg 6 күн бұрын
U guys IS THE "BESTEST" IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD !!!!!!!
@shonngeorge 6 күн бұрын
Just purchased this kit complete with phazers. Noticed the crankshaft sprocket is 1 complete tooth off from oem sprocket. Is this a machine flaw or is there some updated bulletin about why.
@Cloyes01 5 күн бұрын
That should not be the case. The replacement sprocket timing location should match OEM in this application. Please reach out to our tech line at 479-646-1662 ext. 228.
@harrywilliams5489 8 күн бұрын
Very good video. Thank you very much for teaching me something that I really needed to know!
@r.cogburn816 9 күн бұрын
I suggest getting your wits about yourself. Not all 4.0 are the same. There is a bolt inside rear head alongside chain that will not let lower sprocket and chain out. The balancer has another possible balancing option. At opposite end from gear there is a hole in the balancer shaft. This hole lines up with thru hole on mounting bracket at same end. Two holes at that end line up and at gear end a single dot is your marker. This is where 7:1 turn ratio comes into play. Lock this baby down. Find top dead center and lock everything, lock the flywheel. You will need much patience.
@GlacialErratic 11 күн бұрын
The cam shaft holding tools, may not be "required" when doing this on a stand. You will be dam glad you have them when doing this under the hood. Without them it is a fight.
@jamesmoseley8012 11 күн бұрын
Got my timing chains on everything was aligned perfectly, I spun engine a few times by hand, everything is still in time but the chain marks on cams and crank are now off. What's my issue??
@Cloyes01 11 күн бұрын
The chain marks will only align during the installation. That reference is lost once you start rotating. The chain marks will eventually realign, but it may take hundreds of rotations to achieve it.
@jamesmoseley8012 11 күн бұрын
@@Cloyes01 omg thank you so much, I already reinstalled the again and same thing. I really really appreciate you! And by the way I am using cloyes part #9-0511S! So once again thanks for the parts and knowledge!
@davidjoegamez5901 12 күн бұрын
Purchased your kit and it referred me to this video. It came with the updated guide for upper right side. I received two new bolts but they're too long. ?? this video doesn't fully explain how to your parts.
@davidjoegamez5901 12 күн бұрын
and the updated guide is thicker. Reusing the old bolts doesn't allow the bolts to extend into the head for proper torque. One old bolt doesn't reach at all which is obvious why cloyes gives new bolts but the other side prevents 6mm of the bolt to be used.
@Cloyes01 11 күн бұрын
@@davidjoegamez5901 You should be able to use one original bolt, and one of the new bolts the we supply.
@Cloyes01 11 күн бұрын
Hi, thanks for reaching out. If you will please give our Technical Support team a call, they'd be happy to help you with this. 479-646-1662 ext. 228
@jamesmoseley8012 13 күн бұрын
Can I change the timing chain without removing phasers and having a cam locking tool? I have it at tdc right now but haven't removed the chain because I don't want the cams to jump of timing but it seems they stayed in place in your video??
@Cloyes01 12 күн бұрын
You will need to remove the exhaust phasers on each bank to replace the chains. The intake phasers can be left on. The cams may move some when the chains are removed, but not if you have the cam locking tools installed.
@jamesmoseley8012 12 күн бұрын
@@Cloyes01 understood, but what's the use of the cam holders if both exhaust phasers have to be removed to do the timing chain? Nothing to hold onto if it's just one cam left on each bank. These are genuine questions and I really appreciate you taking the time to respond!
@jamesmoseley8012 12 күн бұрын
@@Cloyes01 for example, this guy doesn't remove the phasers but does have the cam locks installed, what's the difference of how you done it and how he does it? Shouldn't I be able to combine the procedures from both videos to be able to get this done? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/acpnmsZ2s7SzZY0.htmlsi=EzbWHB5m_qcsrunh
@Cloyes01 12 күн бұрын
Hi there, thanks for reaching out. If you will please give our Technical Support team a call, they'd be happy to help you with this. 479-646-1662 ext. 228
@stevesmith669 15 күн бұрын
wrap the old chain around balance shaft gear and hold with Visegrips to break bolt loose much easier
@4142Wilb 15 күн бұрын
Concerning the timing chain and the three designated color links, do the links have to match up right up the middle of the 11, 1, 4 o’clock indentions or is ok to off by 1/2 a link?
@Cloyes01 15 күн бұрын
Please feel free to give us a call for additional technical support: Technical Support / 479-646-1662 ext. 228 - thank you!
@GlacialErratic 17 күн бұрын
I'm looking forward to doing one of these today. Too bad it is still in the vehicle. Thanks for the vid, I expect to refer back to it several time.
@user-vj7qx1zy2b 18 күн бұрын
Well explained. Thanks.
@Cloyes01 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@user-lb5yy5uy1x 19 күн бұрын
great video
@Cloyes01 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@caseyhowell2942 19 күн бұрын
@Cloyes01 I just had one of these arrive and the boxes say made in china while your website says manufactured in the Paris, Arkansas factory in USA.. which is it?
@Cloyes01 19 күн бұрын
Both. We manufacture many components in Arkansas, but also source globally from strategic partners. The label on the box will represent where the majority of the cost of the kit is manufactured. If you ever have questions about where individual components are manufactured you can contact our tech support line @ 479-646-1662.
@TheMasterMechanic01 22 күн бұрын
Great video and information as always thanks again!!!
@Cloyes01 22 күн бұрын
Anytime!
@gerardoarias2174 24 күн бұрын
Wow this video made it look so easy , ive seen over 20 videos on how to properly get the timing marks intact , below 👇 i saw some comments regsrding rotating the crank just to be sure u have no interference and i actually have to agree 👍 on that thanks guys 😅
@RicksAdvantechAutoRepair 25 күн бұрын
Very nice! Did you make these for ALL your chain sets? If so, I will always use Cloyes forever! Keep making these GREAT videos!
@Cloyes01 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for your feedback! If you browse our videos on here you can see all of our technical content. Reach out if you'd like for us to cover anything specific!
@nathanstander1493 26 күн бұрын
That crank pulley looked more like 11 o'clock, but I guess pointed up in general?
@Cloyes01 26 күн бұрын
Correct. The main focus is making sure the marks align. You can make small adjustments to the shafts if needed.
@nathanstander1493 26 күн бұрын
@@Cloyes01 thanks for responding
@pauly2505 28 күн бұрын
Does the 2014 LE9 use the same VVT sprockets on both intake and exhaust or both different , thanks
@Cloyes01 26 күн бұрын
The LE9 used the unique phaser on the intake camshaft. It will take 2 different phasers.
@Cpl_Dunn 28 күн бұрын
What about the gasket covers?
@TheDynamiteGuy Ай бұрын
Great Video! And, Thank you for all your great products!
@Cloyes01 Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@TheDynamiteGuy Ай бұрын
@@Cloyes01 You're welcome!
@cristianseibriger799 Ай бұрын
Yeah.....i see the guy is very responsive in comments😂😂😂. Any question you ask him , is like talking to the walls.
@Cloyes01 Ай бұрын
If you will please send your message through our website we'll make sure our team gets back to you soon. Thank you! www.cloyes.com/contact/
@OverlandOrange Ай бұрын
Does motor need to be removed to perform this?
@FrankNeudorf Ай бұрын
I have a question. I am doing timing chain on a 3.7 does piston number one needs to be up cause the timing chain is jumped over. Before taking apart, I cannot get the marks to line up.
@Cloyes01 Ай бұрын
When you position the crankshaft sprocket mark at 4 o'clock you are putting the cylinders in the correct position for timing. If the marks will not all position correctly at the same time, focus on getting the crank at 4 with the camshafts as close as possible before you teardown.
@FrankNeudorf Ай бұрын
OK, thanks for explaining
@LynxStarAuto Ай бұрын
Good stuff brother. Not a fan of using an impact on the oil valves. But concise, and well explained. The community needs more videos on this. Sick and tired of the lifters and rockers is all you need mentality. I had to replace the entire chain drive, one phaser, two cams, and I replaced all 4 oil control valves on my Ram C/V. Has 140k on the clock. I had the tick, but also had a wicked cold start rattle. Main culprit was a tensioner, but I did have a wonky phaser on its last leg.
@4142Wilb Ай бұрын
11 o’clock 1 o’clock and 4 o’clock is all I need to line up to replace timing chain? The colored links don’t mean squat?
@Cloyes01 Ай бұрын
The marked chain links are the most important thing to pay attention to. They must be aligned to the sprocket marks for the engine to be in time. The positions of the sprocket timing marks (11, 1, & 4 o'clock) are just the recommended starting positions that will help the chain installation process.
@abdrasheed6971 Ай бұрын
I buy the timing set from rockauto cloyes brand .why they sent 2 sets of vc107 exgust vvt spocket. Suppose must inlet vvt spocket and exgust spocket.i removed from my customer car spocket Inlet and exgust spocket. The are 2 different spocket. What I order they sent 2 spocket for exgust.can this vvt spocket used for 2 different cam?please advise me
@Cloyes01 Ай бұрын
Hi, please contact us through our website and our team would be happy to help. www.cloyes.com/contact/
@abdrasheed6971 Ай бұрын
Thks for reply. I will contact cloyes website
@JLE1177 Ай бұрын
my tahoe has a belt my altima has a chain tahoe with no issues 376k altima chain maint $700 100k miles replace 250kmiles $1700 why
@michaelcline5579 2 ай бұрын
Wasn’t really a diagnosis
@CelinaPollitt 2 ай бұрын
DO I HAVE TO REMOVE THE OIL PAN TO DO ALL THE CHAINS
@Cloyes01 2 ай бұрын
Yes.
@Basslicks82 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video... my eyes were crossing trying to make sense of the FSM.
@keaaul808 2 ай бұрын
Not very realistic in the normal world. Really easy with the engine out of the car.
@mod.ts76 2 ай бұрын
How are you rotating the engine?
@Cloyes01 2 ай бұрын
In this video we were using the flexplate to rotate.
@mod.ts76 2 ай бұрын
How are you rotating the engine?
@ArthurFleck-tx9di 2 ай бұрын
Why advise DIY folks they don't need cam lock tool? It's totally necessary even in a professional setting. And a psa for everyone use only motorcraft phasers.
@Cloyes01 2 ай бұрын
We recommend tools when they are absolutely necessary. Most modern engines, like this one, rely on the timing chains to set timing. Precise static shaft location is not critical, you still must align your chain and sprocket marks. Cam lock tools can make a job marginally easier, but they are not necessary for a professional installation.
@ArthurFleck-tx9di 2 ай бұрын
@Cloyes01 static shift and spec wouldn't exist if not. I'd love to see this on a powerbalance test beside a spec engine.....
@noconsentgiven 2 ай бұрын
Do you guys produce the oem timing components for Ford?
@SheldonBurke-ms6si 2 ай бұрын
Why doesnt the cloyes vvt sprockets for the 2.4l ecotec have markings for intake and exaust all same part number😂
@SheldonBurke-ms6si 2 ай бұрын
Why doesnt the cloyes vvt sprockets for the 2.4l ecotec have markings for intake and exaust all same part number
@Cloyes01 2 ай бұрын
Some applications will use a unique intake phaser, Cloyes # VC106 which is marked as the intake phaser. In those apps the VC107 will be the exhaust phaser. In other applications GM used the same phaser on both banks. These apps use two of the VC107 phasers, one on the intake camshaft and one on the exhaust cam. So the VC107 will not be marked with "exhaust" or "intake" because it is used on both cams in some vehicles.
@SheldonBurke-ms6si 2 ай бұрын
Why does the cloyes 2.4l kit with vvtnot marked on vvtnot sprockets intake or exhaust
@gunnarmode 2 ай бұрын
Great video just did that
@Yeaahhh2013 2 ай бұрын
Very nice tutorial! I have a Fiat Croma with the 2.2 ecotec. I think this is the L61 engine. Could i follow this tutorial? Same specs and markers?
@scottpalmer4438 2 ай бұрын
Yes if it's the same engine it will have the same specs and markers
@jeep_freek1640 2 ай бұрын
Wish this was in the manual. Did a timing set didn't do this step and vehicle didn't run right thankfully no damage
@austinketchum1062 3 ай бұрын
Do not use a punch and go thru that spot in the camshaft pulse plate to get the phasers off, the bolts for the phasers are usually tight asf and you’ll just snap the key way off. Literally am losing on a job cause I did it the way these guys did it. Use a wrench in the camshaft as leverage to break the phaser bolts loose. Simple as that. Save urself the trouble from me learning the hard way
@LOBIUTIYAamazonstore 3 ай бұрын
Very detailed!
@user-cp3ze3bk5m 3 ай бұрын
Just bought a timing kit and got it home and looked on the box and this is made in china wtf ?
@bellabelmonte7428 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your help 🙏🙏🙏
@bellabelmonte7428 3 ай бұрын
My business partner is doing the timing chain water pump and everything on a Nissan 2004 and we appreciate your heads up on the information you gave us thank you
@DanielJaegerFilms 3 ай бұрын
Cloyes timing chains are garbage. My wife called me today and said her 2013 F-150 EcoBoost quit running while it was sitting there idling in the driveway. I went out and took a look at it, the engine cranked but had no compression. Pulled the valve covers off and found the primary timing chain missing on the driver bank and off the sprocket on the passenger bank. I was able to pull the chain out of the engine through the top because it was broken. One of the links had failed and upon further inspection, I found about half the links had a very concerning amount of play in them, and the other half were tight. I just replaced all the timing components on this engine 16 months / 10,000 miles ago, along with a Melling high volume oil pump. The chain showed no signs of lack of lubrication or damage from a foreign object. That engine ran beautifully and now it is ruined. And of course, Cloyes will not cover the cost of any parts or repairs other than the cost of their garbage chain. I will never, ever buy another Cloyes product.
@user-wv2bu6qm1y 29 күн бұрын
Well! very nice. Your review is good to read. it sucks for your girl's car. I don't think all of them are bad? And what if they wont't cover your cost. I won't stick them to the wall like that. It's Okay to be pist off and BE NICE... But HEY what do I know. I will just keep it moving. Take Care.
@terrypaquette2824 3 ай бұрын
Does the limited lifetime warranty cover catastrophic engine failure for a failed timing component? ASE mechanic and am looking at doing this job on my own vehicle, cloyes kit is very nice but i would like to be sure of the warranty before i purchase one
@Cloyes01 3 ай бұрын
Your warranty is cover by the vendor that you purchase the components from. Most major parts stores offer the lifetime warranty along with labor claim programs that will help pay for damages if the parts are found to be at fault. Check with your vendor to see what kind of coverage they offer and if you would qualify to file a labor claim if necessary.