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@davegalloway7531 6 күн бұрын
Can this be adapted to fit the quest 2?
@HeadsetHistorian 6 күн бұрын
@@davegalloway7531 No, but there are 3d printable adapters on websites like thingiverse.
@Goryglory0209 10 күн бұрын
cant regret this headset. Got rid of PSVR2 trash after 2 days it launched and I picked it. Then upgraded to 4090 and Qpro and I was done at that time for next coming years
@Goryglory0209 11 күн бұрын
I have qpro too but mainly using it for pc sim racing. How are the q3 lenses compared to qpro
@HeadsetHistorian 10 күн бұрын
@@Goryglory0209 they are essentially identical. Some people will say they prefer one or the other slightly, but they are essentially the same in my experience and the difference in optical experience comes down to the displays rather than the lenses. Personally, I would stay with the qpro if you're PCVR only.
@SonicgraceVR 14 күн бұрын
great video! Are you interested in collaborating with us to review our new magnetic battery head strap?
@jonahlers1026 15 күн бұрын
Did you ever get it to work as a display over usb
@goldensparrow1187 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Now got Steam link on my Pimax Crystal. 😀
@LaurenceGough Ай бұрын
For sure I want glass. Pimax too much £ however
@LaurenceGough Ай бұрын
Very helpful review. Did you experience light leakage from the sides with the stock one? I do, I'm wondering if this will be worse or better as it appears shallower. Thanks
@HeadsetHistorian Ай бұрын
@@LaurenceGough No light leakage for me with either, but I do have a rather wide face so I would be the least likely faceshape to get light leakage. An option is always to add a bit of velcro tape behind the facial cushion on each side to bring in the sides a bit and block the light more.
@LaurenceGough Ай бұрын
@@HeadsetHistorian That's a great idea and something you cannot do with the stock one. Thank you! :)
@bendunaway8296 Ай бұрын
Great video. I’m new to vr productivity. This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks.
@user-zv3lj1ef7l Ай бұрын
The quest 3's gawd aweful toy-like appearance is holding me back from pulling the trigger. The quest pro looks very refined in appearance.
@LaurenceGough Ай бұрын
You don't see it when you're wearing it ;)
@SJkopa 2 ай бұрын
It's better to buy Quest 3 than to buy this. Selling it at such a high price without the XR-2 chip is a scam. And since it is manufactured in China, quality and after-sales service are also serious problems.
@MarkReed-smokindeist 2 ай бұрын
Mine is a later purchase than yours but my S3 came with a manual (not that important) and more importantly there's a small Velcro strap on the left side providing some basic, but effective cable management. So perhaps BoboVR has been listening to the reviews?
@MarkReed-smokindeist 2 ай бұрын
Just got mine in a couple of days ago. In my first run with it, I didn't even get into my Quest 3's internal battery. It is very comfortable to say the least. The fan is decent. It does make noise but it doesn't bother me much. Headphones or earbuds would solve the noise issue if it bugs you. BoboVR does have an upgrade kit for the earlier head straps to be able to use the B100 battery but sadly that cradle is not backwards compatible with the B2 battery.
@thepirateswirled 2 ай бұрын
I still think face and eye tracking is important too.
@user-zv3lj1ef7l Ай бұрын
Not sure how anyone would accomplish that on the quest 3. Face and eye tracking as well as curb appeal, headset balance, heat dissipation and dimming feature all seem to favor the Pro and is why I bought the quest pro today BNIB for $650.
@thepirateswirled Ай бұрын
@@user-zv3lj1ef7l I've got the Quest Pro too.
@erickpg8646 2 ай бұрын
You know if can i use it with quest 2 or with another adapter?
@HeadsetHistorian 2 ай бұрын
There might be 3D printable adapters, check websites like thingiverse.
@Janninatore 2 ай бұрын
How hard is the hinge on yours? Mine barely moves making it pretty useless. Always moving the arms on the quest instead
@HeadsetHistorian 2 ай бұрын
It was originally stiff but I forced it a bit and now it is much better, it did feel like I was going to break it though!
@Janninatore 2 ай бұрын
@@HeadsetHistorian Ok so it's not only me then :D Still considering wether to keep it or not as it feels quite cheap but an elite strap with removable battery is just too enticing
@S1MONSAYSVR 2 ай бұрын
Nice video! I have the MX keys and M720 that I've used on Quest 3 and works... My biggest gripe however is the lack of Norwegian language support within the quest. So if i use keyboard with a nordic layout. I cant use the special characters (Æ Ø Å). Sounds like not a big deal but, those three letters are used extensively in my language. I asked fluid about it because they supported swedish. Though i have not tested that in a while.
@HeadsetHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Wow, I didn't know Norwegian wasn't supported! That really sucks. I guess if you're using Immersed then it would be okay, but that means you need another device rather than just the headset. Out of interest, what do you use yours for? Right now I mostly use it as a fancy chromebook for browsing the web and doing basic online only producitivty. I'm looking into using VS Code's web version to SSH into my main PC to do more serious productivity remotely with just the headset. MX Keys and M720 is a very nice combo! I really like the type of keyboard in this video for VR but nothing beats a proper mouse and mechanical keyboard if you're at a desk etc.
@user-pg9fb2vu1p 3 ай бұрын
very detailed comment!
@HeadsetHistorian 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! My videos are definitely quite long for what they cover but I try to provide as much info as I can think of to help people make the right choice for themselves. :)
@user-pg9fb2vu1p 3 ай бұрын
@@HeadsetHistorian that's so nice
@fayney62 3 ай бұрын
I've had none of the problems you've experienced but I'm bald and my battery charges to 100% and I get around three hours of use.
@user-mz1su7nu5n 3 ай бұрын
import Tax UK for Pimax Light over £150.00!!!! that is extortion....
@FragileBitch 3 ай бұрын
My 1st VR headset is Meta Quest 1. Got it by the time Quest 2 became widespread popular. The reasons I bought Quest 1 over Quest 2 back then even if Quest 2 have so many advantage "Hardware" Spec" are simple. I like the overall look of Quest 1, The Black finishing touch the sophisticate look etc etc. In a sense, I do not really giving much care on those fancy spec Quest 2 promote on themselve to be. I just want a product as I want, Reliable, Sturdy with reasonable price. I do not care much about support center by that time. I just want VR headset, And it seem to be a right time to get one. Fast forwarding to around the end of last year. My Quest 1 finally kick the bucket. Well, Its not like its dead or anything. Just the right controller unable to turning on anymore. And no matter how much I fidget and tweaking the controller, No dice. So I did what any sensible consumer would do. I am looking for repairing option or replacement on just this one particular right controller. And there is where I hit the wall: 1.) There are no support center let alone any service provider in my region. ( I am pretty much on 3rd world country, The possible nearest support center either in Japan or Taiwan). 2.) Due to "Discontinued" on Quest 1 and Rift S. This mean I can't find a replacement for Right hand controller. It became a relic on its own since the system pretty much to domesticated it doesn't allow for tech above its level (Quest 2). Thus even with same name as Quest series. There are no backward compatibility for controller. So No replacement (Or if there are, Overprice ) and no way I can use Quest 2 controller to subtitute the issue. 3.) Repairing, Or precsiely speaking, Self Repairing. This is where hell begin, The design of this things is so much so anti-self repair and after along hour of trying to unscrew the special screws and dismantle the lock after lock, I finally broke the controller flimmy power chord. This is when I realize the important of logistic and support center of these certain products. Imagine if you bought an overprized iPhone and need a service but there are no actual official center or let alone an authorized dealer to provide you with a service. Yes, just one little hiccup and your device is as good as over price paper weight. And this is where I hate Meta Quest for. It doesn't giving a F..k about an actual service but only to keep selling their products. After on the fence for sometime with Meta Quest 3, I learnt the existance of PIco's Headset and start to dabble and looking into it. And I think this is it. I finally found what I am looking for. Affordable headset with possible a post sale service option which doesn't requied me to shipped my device to America just to get repaired. Minus some controversial. I am still having high hoped Pico series will find its way over Meta and its competitors. Ps. I have also saw some movement on Pico in these last few months. Aside from downsizing and cancel projects. There are still a chance to see them afloated and more devices from them.
@privateklingel 3 ай бұрын
To heavy for me.
@jdarg4163 3 ай бұрын
Bro there is no comparison bro lool
@HeadsetHistorian 3 ай бұрын
For standalone, I completely agree but for PCVR I think it's a toss up
@Kelvin-w6s 3 ай бұрын
40 dollars for that? hell naw
@Armis71 3 ай бұрын
The M3's batteries doesnt cut it, hence the S3. You want the same comfort, but with updated battery packs, S3 it is.
@mkatiie 3 ай бұрын
Does this head strap fit in the official quest 3 carrying case?
@HeadsetHistorian 3 ай бұрын
I don't have the official case so I can't confirm, apologies.
@angrybeaver6667 3 ай бұрын
Crytal light 699 is QLED its just not local dimming. same panel as the 899 version.
@SisterPain 3 ай бұрын
it would make my crystal not be a paper weight right now. i got the crystal pre order expected quest like aio and got a pcvr which im not mad at cause i built my pc to supply this beast with the power it wants. but if i wanted to stay tethered i would have not bought it. there is no browser. the few games that are on the story like freddy does not work. you cant watch a movie untethered. if they were able to incorporate this in it would save it. we will have to forego the passthrough as on the pimax it sucks ass. but the resolution and smoothness also kicks ass. and yet i have a q3 that i use way more than the higher end pimax. what a joke.
@HeadsetHistorian 3 ай бұрын
If you're interested check out my video on sideloading apps to the crystal, you can install apps like browsers etc that way. It's still not a great experience but makes it useful for some stuff at least.
@namegoeshere197 4 ай бұрын
I believe one of the motivations behind Meta Quest OS,- Meta's assertion of openness implies that their platform welcomes competition and does not inhibit others from participating in the digital space. This stance serves to counter the FTC's allegations by presenting Meta as a company that fosters inclusivity and competition within the market.
@HeadsetHistorian 4 ай бұрын
Yes, that definitely would be a motivating factor. Shows that competition and healthy government regulation can lead to good stuff for us consumers and enthusiasts!
@Nobody-Nowhere 4 ай бұрын
I dont think Pimax will join this, these are huge companies, and the license probably costs a lot. Xbox headset sounds more like a headset to play 2D Xbox games in. If pimax did this, they would need to developed a new headset using the latest chipset anyhow, the XR2 is old already. The latest is the XR2+ Gen 2, and thats one step up from the one that Quest3 has. But would it make sense for Pimax to compete with these huge companies? No. Pimax has always done the smart thing and went for a niche market.
@HeadsetHistorian 4 ай бұрын
Turns out the Xbox headset is just a limited edition branded Quest, not actually a unique headset in terms of hardware or functionality. And I agree with your other points, Pimax would need to do a new headset entirely. I guess if the 12K is still up in the air then perhaps it would get the XR2 Gen 2 and the Meta Horizon OS but again, it seems incredibly unlikely.
@GreenBlueWalkthrough 3 ай бұрын
@@HeadsetHistorian Are we sure? Like the osole render we have was diifernt then any meta headset we know of and if it's just for steaming/linking why would it need to be expensive/as powerful as even a quest 2? Also Pimax's main weakness is the OS/softwear and it could just make the super and lite duel flash like a handhald/PC with Pimax OS and Meta OS if people what a choice... But why? What does pimax OS do that Meta OS can't?
@GreenBlueWalkthrough 3 ай бұрын
Also you can run windows 11 on ancent 20 year old machines and the Pimax headsets are all more powerfull then the quest 2 and likely the Xbox headset.
@calmpuffin 4 ай бұрын
Looks alright but there is no way I could have that out in my house...
@HeadsetHistorian 4 ай бұрын
Ha yeah, it's definitely not for everyone! I have a dedicated office so it works well there but I can understand it's not for all spaces!
@SweViver 4 ай бұрын
Great videos and good points! Only thing I think you got wrong is that both Light models has QLED panels but the 699 version does not include local dimming backlight 😀
@HeadsetHistorian 4 ай бұрын
Oh wow, that's even better then! For some reason I made the assumption that the quantum dots only came with local dimming. The wider colour gamut is actually a bigger deal for me personally than the local dimming so that's awesome news!
@acacia27 4 ай бұрын
Pimax's hardware is not bad, the company's products on the base level is horrible including their software to the point of it being a waste of time and resources considering the quality of pimax's software development team and quality assurance, good luck getting tech support which is inevitable with these headsets. My pimax 8kx was soft bricked from unboxing the device and it took 2 weeks (and broke again in 2 weeks) with contacting support to get a fix so I can use my literally brand new device. Specs are impressive but their human usability is pretty horrendous, people mention that their depth is wrong and with the analogy of "if you look at something far away in real life and see something far away in a Pimax headset, you'll see what is wrong" the binocular overlap are some of the worst. I am not sure if the crystal improves on this as I am no longer giving Pimax my money. So far with crystal launch issues, incompetency from Pimax is crazy. They reused the same 8KX boxes with the same moulds and added support for the back strap, in international shipping almost every one of the DMAS arrived broken because of this. The USB hub for PCVR they shipped with the device was unusable for PCVR because it didn't supply enough power to the headset. Eye tracking was eventually enabled after 3 months of launch, same with their addon lenses which weren't finished when the headset came out and I don't think they are out yet still. The headset was barely functional at launch. Crystal ran at 400% render scale by default and people were advised to lower render scale since it defaulted around 6000x7000, you have to go to the pimax discord to look for crystal local dimming fixes since the default values are not optimised for quality. The list will continue on eventually with these headsets but this is just one launch of a pimax headset. It looks greats from the outside but once you have an issue, its very difficult to deal with.
@HeadsetHistorian 4 ай бұрын
That's interesting, I never heard of a single DMAS being broke but I did hear of many people having broke the plastic housing for the top strap which they added extra foam to address later. The crystal is really solid now but at launch it was definitely very rocky in terms of software and some people still have issues, I have been lucky to have a pretty compatible PC. Tbh I haven't had anymore hassle in the last 6 months with the crystal than I have using Airlink or Virtual Desktop with Quest 3. The 8K X had a lot of issues and I had a similar journey myself where I had a unit that took quite a bit of work on my end to get running well. The 5K Super was always solid for me. I believe the 8kx is pretty solid now. It seems like the best approach is to get a pimax product about a year later after it has had a bunch of patches and when you get a good patch just don't bother upgrading tbh. I fully understand why someone would not want to give custom to a company again if they have had an experience like yours. Personally I only recommend pimax headsets to those that like to tinker, they definitely aren't plug and play but they also are now more plug and play than they ever have been. I think the Pimax approach of trying to push things is a double edged sword, we get really interesting and cool stuff but with a lot of jank. Personally, I love them because they are so interesting to follow and testing their hardware is extremely fun for me. VR would be a lot more boring without Pimax!
@acacia27 4 ай бұрын
@@HeadsetHistorian Double edged sword is a great term. I wouldn't mind my issues but I HAD to contact support since they lock firmware behind serial IDs of headsets.
@dtz1000 4 ай бұрын
Goodbye Somnium. I always said you were a rip off. Pimax just proved it.
@Nobody-Nowhere 4 ай бұрын
10:22 in the video they talked about pancakes, but it just did not make sense. As they are talking about the first glass pancake lenses ever, and how the glass solves the ghosting and light loss... this just isint true. Glass cant solve those issues, but not having a folding pancake design would solve those issues. So i think they are just using pancake name for a regular multi element lens. And that would be a huge win, like you say.. the brightness would be insane. And the actual resolution, as AVP needs to use eye tracking based lens correction & the lenses simply can't resolve the pixels. No pancake can resolve tiny microOLED pixels. Same issue with the bigscreen. A well designed conventional multi element eyepiece lens could do that.
@HeadsetHistorian 4 ай бұрын
They aren't using pancake lenses in the super, I thought they were just talking about pancake lenses to make the comparison but I'll need to rewatch as many they are claiming to be implementing elements as you said. But yeah, the brightness would be wild. I love pancake lenses, partciularly for the form factor, but there are definitely a lot of drawbacks still. I think getting to see microOLED with a different optical stack will be very interesting, this is the sort of thing that makes me love Pimax as I don't think anyone else would be willing to do this.
@HeadsetHistorian 4 ай бұрын
I just rewatched and realise it does indeed seem to be pancake lenses for the microOLED panels, I missed that in the moment. I'm quite confused now ha, but very interesting. I was hoping for the aspheric lenses but I guess there must be a reason everyone uses pancake lenses beyond just the form factor.
@Nobody-Nowhere 4 ай бұрын
OpenXR 1.1 just included QuadViews as a standard.
@HeadsetHistorian 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I just heard that this morning. That is so awesome to hear, QuadViews is absolutely incredible.
@georgetazberik6834 4 ай бұрын
A lot of Reverb G2 owners will probably buy the Crystal Light. It's a very straight but affordable upgrade.
@georgetazberik6834 4 ай бұрын
So, the Micro Oled panel is going to be lower FOV, but if the FOV is higher than stock Crystal, that's pretty good. IMO, stock Crystal FOV is so good that I'm probably not going to buy the wide FOV lenses, DMAS is a higher priority upgrade. If Crystal super with Micro OLED is higher FOV, crazy higher resolution, and perfect blacks, that's a big win. Sorry if I missed it, but did they mention the Crystal to 12k trade in offer being an option for people interested in the Super Crystal?
@webweaver3015 4 ай бұрын
The problem with Pimax isn't their products, but their customer service and logistics handling of distribution problems. My analysis comes from my personal experience with them over a 5 year span .
@HeadsetHistorian 4 ай бұрын
I have personally been very luck in that regard but I also do know people IRL that have had similar issues. Definitely an area they need to improve!
@dtz1000 4 ай бұрын
This is going to compete with both Meta and Apple. I don't know how Pimax are going to keep up with the demand.
@HeadsetHistorian 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's a very bold movement by them. I think a lot of people were swayed off Pimax with the highend price and the general online opinion you get from people but these specs at 699 for the crystal light, I think a lot of people will give it a shot. If they can ensure a good experience for the light then I think it would do wonders for their reputation, but also on the other hand if they don't knock it out of the park then it could really do harm.
@GreenBlueWalkthrough 4 ай бұрын
0:59 Good points honestly it seems like they love to hit above their weight even if it means giving people the wrong first imprestion... That said I'm more critital them giving out praise with them because every launch is to early and rushed and they don't keep products on the shelves very long... That said the only HMDs I would recommend right mnow are Quest 3, AVP(Bearly), Beyond and the crystal also AR glasses and if you get in that mid point your likely to have a good expernice with them... And they dare so I love that.
@HeadsetHistorian 4 ай бұрын
Ah yeah, I do agree. Their launches tend to be early and rushed, as you say, but also appear late because they commit to unrealistic release dates. I have a sneaking suspicion that they do it as a means of "motivating" employees by setting these dates. That said, I do hope that Pimax have learned some lessons over the last while. This event seemed to have been one of the most user feedback related ones so far, so lets see if the release dates are more inline with reality this time around. I won't hold my breath but who knows ha.
@CageCompass 4 ай бұрын
out of all the videos i watched yours was 100% the best and easiest to digest, made installing this a breeze thanks to this video youre a life saver and was also so confused with the honey comb padding too, super useful vid! gave it a like brotha
@user-uc9rz7oy8p 4 ай бұрын
$150 bucks for this headset and extra battery plus shipping. Thanks but no thanks and I really wanted this headset. I ended up staying with my HTC deluxe audio strap with some batteries that I used for quest 2.
@cadergator 4 ай бұрын
Howd you manage to make it run stable? The frames of the stream are all stuttery and feel like the frames get put out of order on steam link & the youtube website
@_Scientia_Est_Potentia 5 ай бұрын
Awesome review. By the way, do you maybe also have a good recommendation for a compact case that can fit the strap with/without the battery mod? :D Thanks!
@HeadsetHistorian 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! Unfortunately I don't have any cases to recommend as I just own a really old one for the Quest 1 and still use it (generic no name brand, and certainly not slim haha). I have heard good things about the destek cases but I haven't tried it myself.
@_Scientia_Est_Potentia 5 ай бұрын
Cool, thanks for the info! 👍
@paveldesort5657 5 ай бұрын
I wonder if using Bluetooth earbuds with active noise cancelling would somehow lowers the hum of the fan or it travels through the frame and skull so it's unaffected what type of audio system I use? Can you try and let me know your observations?
@HeadsetHistorian 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately I don't have the headstrap anymore to test, I sold it on as I went back to elite style strap as it just suits my head shape better.
@paveldesort5657 5 ай бұрын
@@HeadsetHistorian that also says something about the headstrap I suppose, thanks for the reply. Love the video BTW, no ads as well. Much appreciated.
@gamerbvv7414 5 ай бұрын
nice, but does anyone have a list of android applications compatible with the crystal's AIO mode? ^^
@HeadsetHistorian 5 ай бұрын
Pretty much any application that doesn't require google play should run.
@KingEnvy9845 5 ай бұрын
I love to get one but it's like finding a ps5 when they came out not gunna happen 😅😅😅
@wolveslands6701 5 ай бұрын
Found a good deal for quest pro for $690 in brand new condition, do you think it's worth getting the quest pro over quest 3 for that price, the comfort and open design of the quest pro for better airflow is really attractive and i will use it %90 of the time for PCVR, i will also occasionally play exclusive standalone game's like re4 and assassin's creed, but mainly PCVR, the fact that the lenses get completely fogged up in other HMDs due to lack of airflow is a huge drawback to me especially in summer, i also like that the display has local dimming therefore giving deeper blacks and overall better image quality. Quest 3 is also very tempting for the price, not sure which one i should get to be fair. I found a very good deal for pico 4 as well, $250 for a brand new one, is it even comparable to quest 3 and quest pro? In terms of display quality, tracking etc..? And are there any solid reasons for one to get the pico 4 over the meta Headset's except for the price?
@HeadsetHistorian 5 ай бұрын
That's a tough one! The pico 4 at that price is really appealing, it is a great headset and the main benefit it has is much better stereo overlap, but I would only consider it as a PCVR headset. Quest pro might be worth it if you do social stuff like VR chat and want the face and eye tracking. That said, it's getting harder to recommend as support for it is not going to be stellar going forward and standalone wise it will perform quite a bit worse. Personally I would go for the Quest 3 but that's just because of my wants and usecase. You can get setups for it, like the bobobr m3 pro headstrap, to use it like a quest pro so not closed in. All 3 are great choices, sorry I can't give you a more solid answer!
@wolveslands6701 5 ай бұрын
@@HeadsetHistorian Appreciate the input my brother, I will inform you once I get either of them. Is the bad binocular overlap of quest 3 and quest pro really noticable compared to pico 4s good binocular overlap? Do you feel more immersed on pico 4 than the quest pro and 3? Thank you in advance brother.
@HeadsetHistorian 5 ай бұрын
@@wolveslands6701 I am not very sensitive to binocular overlap so personally I never really noticed or felt much of a difference, but some people find it not great on the quest pro. Seems like pretty much everyone is happy enough with Q3.
@wolveslands6701 5 ай бұрын
@@HeadsetHistorian I'm coming from Rift s so the visual experience will likely be a huge leap in clarity and smoothness from any of the three Headsets, I didn't even use it that much like maybe I had usage time of 300+ hours total for almost five years of owning it, unfortunately the cable became faulty one me on a random day it had no visible kink's or frays on the cable so it was hard to troubleshoot what was causing the loss of tracking on my Rift s, any of these Headsets will serve me right, but I want to get the best one among the three I mentioned, and so far I'm leaning towards the quest 3 since it's your preferred headset to use with PCVR and standalone. Thank you for taking your time and responding to my questions.
@Skavenyy 5 ай бұрын
Hey I’m wondering can you start the fan even if you don’t have it connected to the headset?
@HeadsetHistorian 5 ай бұрын
Hi, I don't have the headstrap anymore to confirm for sure but when I tried it didn't work unless plugged in.