Possibly the most underrated VR headet: Pimax Crystal - Second Impressions

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Headset Historian

Headset Historian

Күн бұрын

Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction - New Camera
0:47 My history with the Crystal
4:00 Has the software improved?
5:27 Audio quality and latency issue
8:32 Room setup and recall
9:19 Controller Tracking
11:20 Regarding Lighthouse tracking
12:27 72hz mode
13:12 Versatility for tinkerers
13:42 Standalone Mode (AIO)
15:24 Sideloading Androip Apps
16:47 Conclusion

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@liebesmaennchen
@liebesmaennchen 8 ай бұрын
I love your printed Crystal accessory, tomorrow I will watch the whole video, very curios about it.
@Drew19662010
@Drew19662010 4 ай бұрын
Just got mine today. Setup was very easy, I'm just having trouble dialing in settings. NMS is very choppy for my 3080ti. Great video, please go over some of your settings that would be great!
@SargonDragon
@SargonDragon 8 ай бұрын
I just purchased the Crystal and received it a few days ago. I've been monitoring reports of the issues with it and had hoped I'd ordered it at the right time just as the last major issues were resolved. Unfortunately, I'm part of the half that is experiencing the severe audio latency issue. Pimax had shown videos of their "fix" for this problem, and I was very disappointed to discover that the "fix" was just to have a configuration option to turn off audio processing. The resulting audio sounds bad and has artifacting issues and can't be fully fixed by 3rd party software like Equalizer APO. A lot of Pimax customers are hardcore simmers, so I suppose this improves the audio to be good enough for engine noises. But for the rest of us, this is not an effective solution. Whether or not the audio latency issue is experienced seems to be a PC side thing. I even saw someone claim they connected the same Crystal to two different PCs, and it had the latency on the one but not the other. The issue consistently followed the PC, not the Crystal. That suggests that it may be possible to figure out what specific difference on the PC provokes this issue. It may be just some particular configuration setting or software that was installed or whatever. It does not appear to be an Intel vs AMD issue as I've seen it reported on both platforms (I'm running an AMD 5800X3D and nVidia 4090 myself).
@HeadsetHistorian
@HeadsetHistorian 8 ай бұрын
What vendor of 4090? I have a feeling the specific GPU might be the main thing, the more I hear about it. Sorry you are having the audio bug, it would be a deal breaker for me personally.
@SargonDragon
@SargonDragon 8 ай бұрын
@@HeadsetHistorian Zotac.
@dukethejuke
@dukethejuke 7 ай бұрын
I use 13900k with 4080FE and I love the 72. I can run 95% of the time at 90fps but the 10% drove me crazy. So happy with using 72. Games are IL2 and DCS.
@HeadsetHistorian
@HeadsetHistorian 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I am using the 72hz mode almost exclusively now which I wasn't expecting, guess I'm lucky to not be sensitive to it.
@leanpreneur
@leanpreneur 8 ай бұрын
Hello from Ireland! Thanks for the timestamps. Amazing content, I'm considering buying the used pimax crystal, today installed wi-fi 6e router, it's awesome with quest pro. I have 3090 rtx and not sure if it's enough for the crystal
@HeadsetHistorian
@HeadsetHistorian 8 ай бұрын
A 3090 is definitely enough for the crystal, it's surprisingly not as hard to run as you'd expect, especially if you take advantage of eye tracking and dynamic foveated rendering. Involves a bit of work, although if you have a Quest Pro then you can do the same and get an idea (although the Crystal supports a lot more games with DFR). Wifi 6e is there on the Crystal, in terms of hardware, but so far I can't seem to get it to connect but considering that it doesn't have wireless streaming enabled yet it's not much benefit right now anyway. Thanks for the kind comment, nice to see a fellow Irish person into VR! And thanks for the recommendation of timestamps, I will continue to keep them going.
@WOojerVest3andQuest3onMe
@WOojerVest3andQuest3onMe 7 ай бұрын
❤ the No Face Cushion. I bet this thing is much more comfortable. But, How much light bleed is coming in at the bottom...? Kind of like my PSVR2 they have a thin silicone face cushion basically used to block out the light. The pressure point is at the forehead. But, I prefer it there than on my face. 😉👌😁👍
@RJ-kr4bs
@RJ-kr4bs 8 ай бұрын
I'm interested in your rear headstrap mods, and is that an Apache counterweight hanging on the bottom of the ring piece?
@HeadsetHistorian
@HeadsetHistorian 8 ай бұрын
Yes it is, the back headstrap piece is just an AMVR one for the Pico 4 headstrap, I took off the rubber part. I have done it better in the past but this was just a quick add on for testing.
@marcusdamberger
@marcusdamberger 7 ай бұрын
Looks like your overhead camera has a very shallow depth of field, oddly it looks like you have plenty of light, so not sure why the iris is open so far to reduce depth of field. Your mic audio sounds clean. Look forward to other videos and curious about the Android side loading, wondering what future useful things you can do with that. I don't know of any VR based Android apps, but then again, I haven't looked. Maybe those apps that went with those headset phone adaptors like Gear VR by Oculus from a few years back are the kinds of side loading you can do?
@HeadsetHistorian
@HeadsetHistorian 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the feedback! I actually replaced the lense since this video, still figuring out the optimal setup. Went with a autofocus lens now so I can do close ups etc. The lens I had before was really just for photos so was a poor choice (but was what I already had).
@HeadsetHistorian
@HeadsetHistorian 7 ай бұрын
And unfortunately gear vr apps wouldn't be able to be sideloaded as they require Oculus specific software.
@SURG3NT
@SURG3NT 8 ай бұрын
The headset is good, when u can actually get the thing to turn on!
@HeadsetHistorian
@HeadsetHistorian 8 ай бұрын
Ha! I know that feeling all too well, but thankfully it does seem to have massively improved in that regard (for me at least).
@SURG3NT
@SURG3NT 8 ай бұрын
@@HeadsetHistorian with mine it just has a mind of its own, sometimes it works flawlessly, but like today took me a good 25min just to get it to turn on
@HeadsetHistorian
@HeadsetHistorian 8 ай бұрын
@@SURG3NT ah, are you on the latest pimax play (1.17)? It's a pretty big improvement overall. Also I don't use the usb hub, if that helps. Hopefully my luck stays as it is!!
@SURG3NT
@SURG3NT 8 ай бұрын
@@HeadsetHistorian yes I’m on the latest software and using the power hub, I think the Crystal don’t like u to turn on your pc without it all wired up 1st, as I use triples also, so I have to plug out one of my monitors then plug in the Pimax when pc is on, that maybe my issue i think…
@HeadsetHistorian
@HeadsetHistorian 8 ай бұрын
​@@SURG3NTyeah I had that issue with the 8K X, these days I just use 2 monitors (as I switched to an ultrawide as my main) so thankfully avoids that issue. Very annoying when I had to deal with it though!
@sos1723
@sos1723 8 ай бұрын
Is gigantic that headset.
@HeadsetHistorian
@HeadsetHistorian 8 ай бұрын
Ha, yes, yes it is. It's my biggest complaint with the headset tbh.
@jamejamevr
@jamejamevr 8 ай бұрын
I'm still on the fence about selling mine. I'm definitely done with helping Pimax ever again, though, they are in a pit so deep it would take a Vatican-approved miracle for them to get out. I'm convinced they are lying (more lies) about them ever getting wireless -- something that I need to take full advantage of the headset, wireless is just a requirement to use something like a Katwalk and that's about 3/4 of my games since I'm not a simmer. I don't think Guy Godin has given them the time of day, no matter what they say -- I certainly haven't heard anything from Guy about Pimax except saying he had no interest -- yet Pimax says they are "in talks". So that leaves what, ALVR? Maybe sort of alright, but apparently that's not going to happen either. The fact Pimax is just shrugging and leaving it up to someone in the community -- once again, just like with OpenXR -- to do their job for them, is disgusting. They really let me down with their seemingly endless lies and half-delivered efforts, the critics were right, Pimax just over promises and under delivers. At least, that's my opinion. They lost one of their biggest fans, and I'm not coming back, even if I do decide to keep the headset as the alternatives aren't impressing me much either.
@arminglf
@arminglf 8 ай бұрын
Interesting, you used to defend Pimax very strongly so I wasn't expecting this. And this guy saying that this headset is underrated for ffs, what a joke.
@jamejamevr
@jamejamevr 8 ай бұрын
@@arminglf Well, I know Headset Historian pretty well and his opinions are as valid as anyone else's. If he's enjoying his, then I'm sure he is indeed enjoying it. Unfortunately, I've been far, far less impressed myself. I want the specs and capabilities that Pimax promised, and Pimax doesn't seem to care about delivering. But if someone is happy with their Crystal, then good for them. Personally, the whole thing has left me pretty angry.
@marcusdamberger
@marcusdamberger 7 ай бұрын
@@jamejamevrThey just posted a video a few days ago showing wireless capability, granted it looks like testing phase still and who knows what the resolution and framerate will be. But then again, the only other wireless solution for PCVR is for HTC Vive wireless adaptor, and I don't think that does any more then 60FPS and much lower resolution than Pimax native resolution. Really curious what their specs will be.
@jamejamevr
@jamejamevr 7 ай бұрын
@marcusdamberger I saw that. I know they are lying about Virtual Desktop, though. But as far as a homegrown solution goes, it's anyones guess. Maybe an ALVR fork? They haven't said anything yet. But yeah, it accrual l actually does look like it's coming along. Didn't expect that.
@lorsch.
@lorsch. 6 ай бұрын
I don't believe that part "wireless is a requirement for something like the Katwalk", I have seen it working well with a pulley system. Also, never buy a product based on promises.
@pakrej
@pakrej 6 ай бұрын
This headset is a big headache. So frustrating. What is worse, if you have a problem, their support is not possible to reach and you are alone in that problem.
@arminglf
@arminglf 8 ай бұрын
Underrated??? lol...please tell me Pimax paid you for this video
@HeadsetHistorian
@HeadsetHistorian 8 ай бұрын
I do think it's underrated, mostly as a result of Pimax's reputation (which is not undeserved and I had no shortage of frustrations in the early days of the crystal) but yes, I believe as it stands now it's underrated. Perhaps that's the wrong term? Thanks for taking the time to comment and no payment from Pimax, although it is a loaner unit like I disclosed in the video.
@arminglf
@arminglf 8 ай бұрын
@@HeadsetHistorian I'm glad that you're enjoying yours, but I think calling underrated the most expensive consumer headset (afaik) that we all know has/had so many issues, and that it's still missing some of the features promised more than a year ago, I would not call it underrated, in fact to me is highly overrated. I wouldn't pay that much money for a headset still in beta phase and coming from a company full of lies that is simply not good enough to deliver a finished product and possibly never will.
@HeadsetHistorian
@HeadsetHistorian 8 ай бұрын
@@arminglf That's all fair enough, and the headset is out of my own price range so I dont disagree about price. I am moreso focused on the experience the headset delivers etc but when considering price I can definitely see your point.
@dtz1000
@dtz1000 8 ай бұрын
It's overrated by many reviewers. Half of them don't even mention the distortion sweetspot which is the first thing you see when you put on the headset.
@vincentsantucci2478
@vincentsantucci2478 7 ай бұрын
​@dtz1000 there is no such distortion. If you're seeing distortions, you're just not wearing it properly.
Glass Lenses in VR are kinda great...
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