I did fine for years with Gen 4 grip actually. I think the finger grooves might have helped a bit. But on the Gen 5 I prefer to have some extra traction. Is it absolutely necessary? Nope. But it sure is nice on a hot ass day when my hands are sweating like crazy.

Everyone likes what they like, but I found the flat faced trigger to be a solid option out of the box. Reach is definitely a bit further which might feel weird for you. I’m wondering if yours has something wrong with it though. In my three examples they were all very good (maybe not quite great) triggers.

On this SKU yes

@@MagDumpGuns Awesome, will have to call Smith and Wesson and see if I can get my hands on a set for my standard m2.0 metal

The ACRO plate was aftermarket - FCD. I have since put a holosun 507 comp on it using the factory plate with no issues. My most recent M&P since this one actually came with a metal RMR plate from the factory so maybe they changed that.

Yeah that’s a great find!

Not really it was worth every penny

Like after you installed the light? If it’s a screw type attachment make sure you aren’t torquing it down too crazy. Finger tight with the right attachment on the light should be plenty

I’m guessing just to simplify manufacturing a bit and save money for the company. Though the G17 non-MOS is still being produced so not really sure…

It’s a 17ish slide on a 45 frame. But you’re right, zero innovation. It exists purely to simplify production lines and allow parts interchangeability for large buyers (LE/MIL) who are running multiple platforms (i.e. G19 & G47).

There isnt need for innovation the stuff works

Next Glock will very likely be a standard 17 that I get milled. Buying new guns to try new optics gets pricey but I definitely get it!

Might be yours is just a bit tight on the fitment. Hopefully it’ll break in a bit, mine is 100 percent reliable with all stock springs and decently warm 124 gr ammo.

No I don’t anymore. I had an identical g17 to practice with back when I carried the 22 on duty though. Any practice is good but shooting the 9mm definitely doesn’t exactly replicate what you feel/experience with the 40.

With the exception of the simplicity of a Glock (for detail strip) it’s definitely an outstanding package.

Thanks! All are good options! 507 comp might be my favorite currently. I thought it looked goofy in pictures but when it’s mounted it isn’t bad at all.

That leads you to the ultimate decision though: 45&49 or 47&19?

If you're anything like us my young friend, you'll eventually get them all 😂

Iron sighted 17s are still being produced, it’s just the MOS version that was stopped. If you’re just running irons I’d take the G17 all day.

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It did alright but I actually ended up taking it off and going back to stock with an apex connector. The difference seemed less extreme the more I shot it and I didn’t really like the idea of needing to clean and lube it to keep it running.

@MagDumpGuns yea that's what I'm noticing it needs more maintenance

In purchasing the M&P in this video (LE only model) I didn't have to give any kind of credentials, so I would try it if you really want that 3.6. Worst they can say is no! I really want to try the P10f, especially at the rock bottom prices it's at right now, but I worry the trigger reach will be too short for me. The way their backstraps work the trigger reach stays constant. Might still get one anyway just to see though.

@@MagDumpGuns I wear a size Large Mechanix glove. I don’t find the reach too short. I like that there is a large trigger guard. On my Glock 19 during dry fire I brush the front of the guard since the opening is so small on Glocks

Thanks for the support! I think the Apex'd M&P definitely gives the Staccato a run for its money. I'm thinking about getting a threaded barrel so I can run a PMM comp on the M&P. At that point I think it has the potential to be truly special. Time wise I think the Staccato might edge out the M&P ever so slightly (for me) and the Ramjet G45 is probably about the same as the Staccato P. One caveat to this is that I have probably 20 times as many rounds through the glock platform than any of the others, so my comfort level is obviously higher with it. Also, if you watched the Ramjet review, I had not fired 115 grain ammo through it prior to dropping the review. All of my stash is either 124 nato spec FMJ or 124 +p carry ammo. I shot some 115s through it the other day and it was absolutely wild. Regarding the GPT - Initially I loved it, and it felt like a significant difference than my stock Glock triggers. As time went on, the difference between stock and the GPT seemed to blur a bit. Not sure if this was just me getting used to it or not. I will say the GPT was nice for slow aimed fire, but for shooting quickly I don't think it made much difference. I ended up removing it as I didn't see enough of a difference to merit keeping it on there, and I don't clean/lube my glocks hardly ever which the GPT requires. Haven't sold it though if that says anything. I installed an Apex connector on the G45 this week (haven't shot it yet) which gives a bit smoother press for only like 20 bucks.

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Yes it is! I have an individual review of it posted if you’re interested.

Good points, thanks for sharing! I've wondered why CZs in particular don't seem to get bogged down in a similar manner despite the large amount of rail contact between slide and frame. Maybe partly due to looser tolerances, but I'm sure there is something going on in the physics of the 1911/2011 that brings it on quicker.

@@MagDumpGuns The 75 compacts that I own have a similar barrel hood locking lug design to 1911s. There's less opportunity for play due to the CZs elimination barrel linkage and pin, so I'm guessing they don't have to be fit quite as tightly to still offer consistent lockup. In my 1911s, it's the barrel locking lugs that seem to need lube first, and get hung up mostly in the last bit of the feeding cycle before the barrel is fully locked. The full length rails don't seem to get too messy in either the CZs or the SIG P226. Of the guns I mentioned in the last post, I'd imagine the CZ would have the shortest interval before it needed some lube. That said, I own two compacts and a family member owns a full-size 75B; between the three pistols, I've only ever seen one failure over a combined ~8-10k rounds (a primer that failed to ignite on the first strike).

Open guns are kind of a different animal with them being designed around major PF ammo. They are like comparing a stock corvette to a corvette built for Le Mans. Same car (kind of) but completely raced out. Cool in their own way though!