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@Haveuseenmyjetpack
@Haveuseenmyjetpack 3 күн бұрын
So MP's official position was "there is no thing in itself"? Wild. Hopefully that was his view when restricted to phenomenology only? or do you think this is a metaphysical/ontological claim all the way?
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 2 күн бұрын
Actually, I don't think we can separate MP's ontology from his phenomenology. People often take ontology to mean something like "what _is_ in itself"; i.e. independent of human experience (in which case the ontological claim "there is no thing in itself" would be super-radical), but I would say MP's position is that "what is" just doesn't make sense without a perspective. The thing is always clothed, not because we are limited in our capacity to know it, but because the 'clothing' is part of what makes a thing a thing. Ontology, although not reducible to or the same as it, begins with experience. I'm not aware of MP ever calling his philosophy metaphysics (with the caveat that there is so much of MP's works that I haven't read), but I, for my part, would say it isn't metaphysical at all. Metaphysics, as I define it at least, goes beyond experience to try to piece together an account of how perspective/experience arises (evolves) in the first place. The primordial/fundamental nature of reality that metaphysics aims at, while it won't be a (ontological) thing, can't be nothing at all (as in void/pure emptiness)... and this is where Bergson takes over for me.
@Haveuseenmyjetpack
@Haveuseenmyjetpack 2 күн бұрын
@@absurdbeing2219 Sure, the clothing is part of what makes a thing a thing. Are you saying MP essentially wants to reduce things to their phenomenality, or experience OF things?
@Haveuseenmyjetpack
@Haveuseenmyjetpack 2 күн бұрын
@@absurdbeing2219 As you define it, metaphysics goes beyond experience, in order to account for the possibility of experience? This was certainly the view of Kant, and most metaphysicians before him as well, and therefore they necessarily sought to proceed only from inferences based upon knowledge (universal principles) a priori. After all, how could one ever constitute a solid metaphysics -- as the science of that which lies beyond the possibility of all experience -- by applying principles which must first themselves be drawn from experience!? They closed off the principle source of all knowledge (experience) by, perhaps unwittingly, assuming, from the outset, that metaphysics and knowledge a priori were one and the same. But aside from quoting some sorry explanation about the etymology of the word "metaphysics", they offered no proof that the material needed for solutions to the questions of metaphysics cannot be contained in the world itself. If metaphysics is to be successful at all, it must (according to the logic above) not aim to pass beyond the world of experience, but understand it more and more completely.
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 2 күн бұрын
@@Haveuseenmyjetpack Interesting. I think there is a balance to strike here. If MP is reducing things to their phenomenality, then isn't ontology just collapsing into phenomenology? There has to be more to ontology than just our experience of things, or we haven't gone beyond Husserl. This 'more' is, I think, "flesh" as the milieu which is, by definition, not a part of experience; a passive, _invisible_ potentiality standing over against the active, _visible_ thing of our experiences.
@Haveuseenmyjetpack
@Haveuseenmyjetpack 2 күн бұрын
@@absurdbeing2219 for Husserl this is “pure passivity”, “primal passivity”. Of course, it was Husserl who originally explored the topic of touching one’s hand etc
@Haveuseenmyjetpack
@Haveuseenmyjetpack 3 күн бұрын
OK now perhaps a little Gurwitsch? Crystal clear phenomenology AT LAST??
@DanielAndrews-i6t
@DanielAndrews-i6t 5 күн бұрын
Nathan, I want to express my deep gratitude for these videos. Your summaries are clear and offer just what I need to follow along with these dense texts as I'm writing my thesis. It goes quite a long way, especially for younger students such as myself.
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 5 күн бұрын
Thanks for that kind words, Daniel. I really appreciate that. Only three more videos to go...
@Haveuseenmyjetpack
@Haveuseenmyjetpack 2 күн бұрын
Check out Barbaras' The Being of the Phenomenon: Merleau-Ponty's Ontology as well. Might be helpful. What are you planning to write about?
@margarita9088
@margarita9088 5 күн бұрын
As a Chinese, I think his opinion seems like Dao by Laozi in this generality. They are similar to debate how two individuals convergence and convert under the law of nature which represents yin and yang by symbolisation. I'm not sure that I understand you correctly.
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 5 күн бұрын
That's an interesting perspective. I must admit I didn't think of Laozi when I was preparing this video.
@margarita9088
@margarita9088 5 күн бұрын
@@absurdbeing2219 Thank you. I‘m interested in the convergence in media and progress philosophy, and found this video and thought that today. I hope my opinion can serve as a different from Europeans’ view for a favor to you.
@aodhwouters9521
@aodhwouters9521 7 күн бұрын
Srsly tho Where IS everybody?
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 7 күн бұрын
*Contents* 01:18 THE QUESTION 05:16 THE SEEN 06:07 Qualia 09:16 Quote re: red 13:43 Difference 15:55 The visible and the invisible 16:04 Flesh 20:40 THE SEER 25:23 Touch 27:24 First meaning of the intertwining/chiasm 32:23 Vision and touch 38:05 Second meaning of the intertwining/chiasm 40:21 Summary
@SunAndMoon-zc9vd
@SunAndMoon-zc9vd 8 күн бұрын
It seems there is sound of rain in the background. You speak (A) and there is sound of rain (B). AB, AB, AB, AB. Or maybe it is the other way around: the rain makes you speak: BA, BA, BA, BA. (a Humean comment). Thank you for your videos. I really enjoy them and they help me understand Deleuze while reading his book Difference and Repetition :)
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 8 күн бұрын
Nice. Thanks a lot for the comment. Very glad I could help clarify some of this very unclear book!
@kadaganchivinod8003
@kadaganchivinod8003 12 күн бұрын
Which translation is it?
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 12 күн бұрын
@@kadaganchivinod8003 Suny Press, Joan Stambaugh.
@ParryStudios
@ParryStudios 15 күн бұрын
MP really should have read your book before having a go at Bergson… seriously, not just ontology and metaphysics man… get the full picture! How did the cover go?? Is it ready to go yet?
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 15 күн бұрын
@@ParryStudios Hehe, thanks. Are you sure you sent the new cover to me? I didn't receive an email.
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 16 күн бұрын
*Contents* 00:27 LANGUAGE 02:44 Bergson 09:09 The nature of language 14:51 Language as witness to Being 16:18 The “lived-spoken” 15:22 Return to experience 20:30 BEYOND ESSENCE AND FUSION 20:37 The two errors of essence and fusion 22:15 The importance of distance 27:44 Interrogation as our proper relationship to Being 31:54 Summary
@trompetsopp709
@trompetsopp709 16 күн бұрын
Just came across Bergson and this is resonating a lot with the development of my own thoughts. My thinking have been that one of the big reasons physics is stuck in a rut is because of a wrong turn when it comes to the conception of time. Einstein was clearly inspired by Ernst Mach who also thought that TIME IS CHANGE, but he fell in to the trap that has been all to common in the modern history of physics of over-mathematising and making it into a dimension.
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 16 күн бұрын
I couldn't have put it better myself. Always pleased to see new people getting into Bergson's philosophy!
@saj996
@saj996 17 күн бұрын
so what exactly can "Being" be defined as in a sentence? Im short for time. Can someone please summarize briefly
@Volcanovski
@Volcanovski 22 күн бұрын
@keikojing2112
@keikojing2112 23 күн бұрын
Hi Nathan, do you remember which pages in The World as Will and Representation did Schopenhauer make this claim relevant to we're not free to choose desires?
@keikojing2112
@keikojing2112 23 күн бұрын
Or was it in Essay On the Freedom of the Will?
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 25 күн бұрын
*Contents* 00:33 PHILOSOPHICAL INTERROGATION 03:03 The question as a “return” to Being 07:31 INTUITION AS FUSION/COINCIDENCE 10:31 Problems with fusion/coincidence 14:24 A “partial coincidence” means no coincidence 15:22 Return to experience 16:35 An “overlapping” of the two aspects of my body 21:07 BERGSONIAN INTUITION 25:44 DIFFERENTIATION 29:00 The thing “ready to be seen” / the past plus an “inexplicable alteration” 30:00 Summary
@ichigo5494
@ichigo5494 Ай бұрын
Wow, this is absolutely brilliant!!
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
*Contents* 01:10 FACT VS. ESSENCE 02:19 Fact vs. essence as a presupposed dualism 06:42 Kosmotheoros 09:41 The visible present 16:10 The “I” 23:50 The thing 27:27 The flesh of the world 28:55 The thing’s essence is its facticity 37:38 The indecisive milieu 41:24 KNOWING BEING, CONSCIOUSNESS, AND SPEECH 41:33 Knowing Being 47:22 Consciousness 54:05 Speech 58:13 Speech as an (invisible) extension of the (visible) body 59:38 Summary
@Gray-dr2ri
@Gray-dr2ri Ай бұрын
I appreciate this series, I recently read this but I was in a rush so I was reading about 70 pages per day, and so I may have missed a few points
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
70 pages a day. That is quick. Never fear. I have all your MP needs right here!
@shotasiradze2261
@shotasiradze2261 Ай бұрын
Hello, I just finished reading "ooo" and then I found this video, I want to thank you for such a good review.
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! Glad you like it.
@alagoaalex
@alagoaalex Ай бұрын
Finally finished the book and am now watching the final part of your series. What a project this has been. Although I've commented on other of your parts, I still want to thank you again for taking the time to make these videos. They are not only super helpful, but they are a sort of a "motivation", on the lack of a better word, keeping me energized and surrounded by someone who is also interested in these topics. Thanks a lot! Looking forward to diving into your new Merleau-Ponty series, and hopefully your book later on!
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
Congratulations. It's a big project for sure, but rewarding when you get to the end. It's my pleasure to have been able to join you on the trip, vicariously though it might have been, and I look forward to seeing you in the _VI_ series!
@danielschrader-dobris256
@danielschrader-dobris256 Ай бұрын
I'm excited to read to give it a read! One question up front though: I've only read the first few pages that are available free online and listened to what you've said here, but I've noticed there's no reference to Deleuze. Is this because you mostly worked on the book before reading Difference and Repetition? Or, because you reject Deleuze's metaphysics? Obviously, there are many parallels to be made with Bergson's metaphysical interpretation, but I do think the ways Deleuze differs from Bergson (e.g., Deleuze's grounding of quality within quantity) are important.
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
Great question. I did form my metaphysics prior to reading _D&R,_ so I ended up approaching it from a slightly different direction than Deleuze. Having said that, I definitely don't reject Deleuze's metaphysics. On the contrary, I find his ideas (and his notion of metaphysical "Ideas") very compelling. However, I feel Deleuze is somewhat more descriptive than explanatory. His descriptions of metaphysical Ideas (undetermined, determinable, determinate, actualisation, incarnation, intensity, etc.) are elucidating and clarifying, but not, I would say, particularly _explanatory,_ at least not in the way that I have approached metaphysics. I don't think what I've written disagrees with anything Deleuze says, I just come at it from a different angle. Of course, you can be the ultimate judge of that...
@Notmatahari
@Notmatahari Ай бұрын
I have an assignment on this lecture of Heidegger which I find extremely hard to comprehend and your video has been extremely helpful, you're a life saver! Thanks heaps!! Subscribed :)
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
Brilliant! I love getting comments like this. You're most welcome.
@ginahusemanuel5124
@ginahusemanuel5124 Ай бұрын
Even while absorbing Joyce and Proust, I welcome the what? five month challenge, my friend. I'm up for the whole Monty. ('real' name:JB). -JB
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
Some literary/philosophy multi-tasking - I like it!
@normamahns7184
@normamahns7184 Ай бұрын
I look forward to reading your book Nathan.
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
Thanks Norma. I hope you like it.
@veiled33
@veiled33 Ай бұрын
grats
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@frydatbacon
@frydatbacon Ай бұрын
I'm so excited to read it. Congratulations!! Thank you so much for the work that you do!🔥🔥
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
Thanks a lot. And you're welcome!
@kadaganchivinod8003
@kadaganchivinod8003 Ай бұрын
When will we see a video series on your own book? 😊
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
That's way, way down the list!! Although, there might (fingers crossed) be an interview discussing it at some point.
@kadaganchivinod8003
@kadaganchivinod8003 Ай бұрын
All the best Nathan❤
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@holistic_physicalist
@holistic_physicalist Ай бұрын
Congratulations! Can’t wait to check out your book! 🎉
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
Thank you! I hope you enjoy it.
@holistic_physicalist
@holistic_physicalist Ай бұрын
@@absurdbeing2219 I’ve been diving into the beginnings of it for the past ten minutes and I’m already loving it. Fantastic work.
@PessimisticIdealism
@PessimisticIdealism Ай бұрын
Excellent video. I really appreciate your detailed explanations.
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
Thanks a lot. I hope you enjoy the rest of the series.
@cicerogomes5589
@cicerogomes5589 Ай бұрын
Very high level of knowledge! Amazing! Now I can read the phenomenology of perception in a different way.
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
*Contents* 00:24 THE THREE TYPES OF QUESTIONS 00:35 The goal of philosophy 04:47 Ordinary questions 05:34 Philosophical “an sit” questions 08:35 Philosophical “quid sit” questions 15:49 Circumscribed regions of being vs. Being 17:59 ESSENCE 23:48 The pure spectator 28:40 Going “beneath” the essence 30:28 Sosein (essence) as the “manner” or “style” of the world 32:31 Field of experience 38:39 Invariance 43:10 Summary
@antoniusdeweerd8506
@antoniusdeweerd8506 Ай бұрын
Hi Nathan, I was just wondering .... having noticed our shared weariness when it comes to philosophers laying it on too thick when it comes to their religious beliefs.... if you are nontheless familiar with Paul Tillich and his systematic theology? I was very sceptical at first but after plowing through all the religious mumbo jumbo I actually found him to be one of the foremost on point existentialists when discussing freedom for instance and the existential state of alienation and the struggle for meaning.... furthermore it seems to me he is also taking a lot from Bergson (which I probably wouldn't have noticed if it weren't for 'Absurd Being', cause I used to have very little regard for Bergson until your series on him completely changed my mind) I was just curious if you are familiar with his work and if so what your opinion of it was? Also just wanted to stress once again how I keep finding myself coming back to your channel to occasionally rewatch some videos I already viewed in the past and I am so grateful for the clarity of it all! Thank you. And have a nice weekend :)
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
"plowing through all the religious mumbo jumbo" - when I read that, I thought maybe I was accidentally reading an old comment I had written... I haven't read Tillich, so unfortunately I don't have an opinion on him yet, but I will definitely add him to the reading list after your remarks (despite Britannica.com describing him as "God-intoxicated"!!). Is _Systematic Theology_ the book to read? I am so pleased to hear that I turned you on to Bergson. He is so underrated, it's almost a crime. And how could I not have a great weekend after hearing that you find yourself coming back to my channel for more (even more of the same!)? Thank _you_ for the kind words!
@myronjoshua
@myronjoshua Ай бұрын
2:45 doesn't Levinas believe that the call of the Other, interrupting our living off the world...enjoyment preceed knowledge and theory. theory and knowledge follow ethical awareness. 6:00 I see you raise this in the second possibility... the one that levinas actually holds
@Vooodooolicious
@Vooodooolicious Ай бұрын
'there isn't something hidden but we can never grasp all of it at once.' - This is similar to people except with people there is always a hidden world. - Over analytical thinking of perception / experience. THE BODY ISN"T A PASSIVE DEVICE RECEIVING INFORMATION - IT IS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING the living body - the body rises up to the world - not just a machine that moves - 'we have to be anchored to the situation, if we weren't then how would we receive information in the first place'. 'the vision is gone but they insist that they can still see things' 'people give up before their vision is gone' YOU STILL HAVE THIS PREOBJECTIVE PERSPECTIVE THAT INCLUDES THE ARM "the patient knows his disability insofar as he is ignorant of it and is ignorant of it insofar as he knows it" remains in our being, not in our thought - hiding behind the perception - becomes a way that we perceive. Ambiguity of being = ambiguity of body = ambiguity of time
@amirleshem6720
@amirleshem6720 Ай бұрын
Great lecture. Levinas ideas about the relation between meaning and language is very interesting. Thanks!
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
Thanks. Yes, ultimately, Levinas is too religious for my tastes, but he nevertheless does have some very insightful ideas.
@Vooodooolicious
@Vooodooolicious Ай бұрын
Qualia doesn't lock us away from the world. People who argue from a qualia standpoint don't argue for pure qualia. Qualia doesn't need to be a cartesian binary against the world. This is not a good premise to start with. Actually, Merleau Ponty is trying to lock people in the world, away from qualia. Haha no, qualia doesn't ignore the body. Merleau Ponty just wants to focus on one little part of the brain, the cerebellum. He is going to end up denying everything about what it means to be human. He is going to end up in a place where he cannot understand / intereract with other people because empathy is going to be impossible without allowing for personal / subjective experience. Merleau Ponty might sound very smart to many people but ultimately impractical. Limited to behaviouralism. Even at its heart, cognitive psychology, is still rooted in behaviouralism. This is spot on the money, it leads to 100% determinism. A very stupid way to interact with the world. Saying all that, behaviouralism and cognitive psychology are not the only ways to approach psychology.
@Vooodooolicious
@Vooodooolicious Ай бұрын
Perception is not just finding in the sensory data, it causes figures to appear. Not causes, they are motives. Nietzsche talks about the body like this with geist and the living body. Also Carl Jung went into these ideas in a lot of depth. Not a judgement (interpretation of signs) - there is a lot of evidence to the contrary.
@Vooodooolicious
@Vooodooolicious Ай бұрын
It must have a sense in order for it to appear. Never thought of that before. The objects appear for consciousness. Muller Lyer illusion. Sensation isnt Scientific, pure - it is pre objective
@normamahns7184
@normamahns7184 Ай бұрын
"emotion-thought- word" Robert Frost...is a great way...for me to think about language
@Vooodooolicious
@Vooodooolicious Ай бұрын
It's interesting that he uses so much psychology without going into psychology such as, repression, consciousness, unconscious, perception. It's interesting that philosophy goes into psychology without acknowledging the actual psychologists such as Freud and Jung which developed the field. Very similar to behaviouralism's reinforcement with 'sign and response'. Signs - Jung's symbolism. Dialectical progression to eternal return to deleuze. Jung 1. Individuation and generality. 2. True repetition and generality. 3. Dynamic repetition - archetypes - symbolism. 4. Repression - the shadow.
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
There's plenty of Freudian acknowledgement and discussion coming as we move through the first half of _D&R._
@Gael_Comarmond
@Gael_Comarmond Ай бұрын
In the video you wondered why Merleau-Ponty doesn't explicitly talk about Heidegger. In his lecture series on the phenomenology of perception, Hubert Dreyfus talks about how he might have distanced himself from Heiddegger when he came out as a Nazi. Perhaps to make his ideas sit better. As a result of this Dreyfus claims that Merleau-Ponty ends up attributing Heiddegger's ideas to Husserl.
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
Yes, I have heard that, too. The reticence to acknowledge Heidegger given the Nazi connection certainly seems plausible.
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
*Contents* 01:14 LANGUAGE 01:36 What is language? 05:06 Language as a world (to the second order) 06:57 THE HORIZON 08:10 The constitutive nothingness 15:21 The limits to the freedom of the for-itself 19:32 INTERROGATION 25:03 Structural laws 29:14 Cognition 38:03 Using language in interrogation 55:09 Who are we? 01:03:16 Summary
@Vooodooolicious
@Vooodooolicious Ай бұрын
Logos: the word. However, I disagree. Symbolism is innate and precedes the word. Language does not define culture. Ideas precede words. Other people as the collective unconscious as God.
@Macasev
@Macasev 2 ай бұрын
Regarding the nature of our perspective in the light of conditions, there is a wonderful passage in J. A. Moorehouse’s PhD thesis Marleau-Ponty’s Understanding of Truth, where he is also quoting MP’s Primacy of Perception: “When through the water's thickness I see the tiling at the bottom of a pool I do not see it despite the water and the reflections there; I see through them and because of them.” Similarly, when I look at the world's' thickness, I see being not despite but on account of the sedimentation or truth which is the milieu and the condition of possibility of my seeing of the world. Like the water, this sedimentation of truth does not block my view: it is my view. There is a tree outside my window. I recognize the tree and know it to be a tree on account of my inherence in the world, the sedimentation of previous meanings and, thirdly, the tree presenting itself to me.
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for sharing that great quote.
@cicerogomes5589
@cicerogomes5589 2 ай бұрын
Help, Nathan! I'm from Brazil and I'm used to American English but your accent is rather different from British too. I am graduating in philosophy and like so much Merleau-pnty and Henri Bergson. I found your channel recently and loved it because I learn English from you as well.
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 Ай бұрын
Welcome (Cicero, is it?). Glad to introduce you to NZ English. UK English, but with a twist! Always nice to meet a fellow Bergson/MP enthusiast. I hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
@Vooodooolicious
@Vooodooolicious 2 ай бұрын
I think that there is a relationship between Levinas' 'arising' and Bergson. I can't quite put it into words. I know what Jung calls it - individuation. I wonder if truth could be replaced with time. If I am in myself without an other then what is the measure of time? Jung would say that other people in terms of the 'collective unconscious' are God. This is contrasted with Nietzsche's view of the idea of Dionysus: that God comes up through me.
@Vooodooolicious
@Vooodooolicious 2 ай бұрын
'differences in kind not degree' - maybe I am being reductionist but it seems like qualia - quality. Related to Jung's individuation. Pulling pieces together for transformation.
@user-yw3ts3bq8q
@user-yw3ts3bq8q 2 ай бұрын
I appriceate your lecture.
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much.
@absurdbeing2219
@absurdbeing2219 2 ай бұрын
*Contents* 01:13 THE PHILOSOPHY OF NEGATIVITY 01:24 Sartre: The good and the bad 06:09 Mute experience 12:31 Why is there something rather than nothing? 21:24 Openness upon being: reflection and negativity 23:19 DIALECTIC 23:52 Dialectic thought: historical 25:43 Dialectic thought: individual 27:41 The instability of dialectics 32:49 Hegel and Sartre 35:54 Good dialectics and bad dialectics 37:41 The Derrida connection 45:46 Summary