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@gregoryharrell2502
@gregoryharrell2502 2 күн бұрын
Dang I am glad I found this. I was about to disassemble to check the fly wheel key. Thank you !
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 Күн бұрын
you're welcome Gregory, that was my initial thought as well! Thanks for watching
@santiagovelez9851
@santiagovelez9851 8 күн бұрын
Renault 4?
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 5 күн бұрын
Yes it is! 1980 GTL my pride and joy
@martyjoseph9507
@martyjoseph9507 13 күн бұрын
This is the type of connection I'm looking to make. I've got a scooter with a screw on cap and each time the rear suspension moves the wire flexes, eventually causing the boot to unscrew and loosen up. I've tried gluing it in with silicone but it's a losing battle. I love the boot itself for protection on the plug, but what good is that if it doesn't hold the wire.
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 11 күн бұрын
Well I hope this works for you Marty, good luck and thanks for watching
@jonatanryan2185
@jonatanryan2185 29 күн бұрын
Great video, thanks
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 28 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Jonatan, thanks for watching
@williamwelch7
@williamwelch7 Ай бұрын
Thanks, just what I needed. Just got a new carb and had the same issue.
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 Ай бұрын
Hey William, glad my video could help, thanks for watching
@garethtaylor9190
@garethtaylor9190 Ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks for the help
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 Ай бұрын
Thank you and you're welcome Gareth, glad you enjoyed it
@jarkkolouhe11
@jarkkolouhe11 Ай бұрын
This is not a fix, its terrible.
@user-ic1us5ms1x
@user-ic1us5ms1x Ай бұрын
Got nothing from this video! He is shaking so bad it’s hard to tell if he is making a good connection or not. Then he doesn’t hold the leads on long enough to be sure. And he doesn’t really explain what’s going on with each condenser. He even says, I’m not sure about this one? Needs more preparation before making the video. And he should have shown a bad one so we can see the difference! Also, I noticed his meter had a micro farad position. Why wouldn’t you use that? I would like to know! Still don’t.
@writerjmd
@writerjmd Ай бұрын
There's as much to be learned from testing a bad one as from testing a good one. 4:30
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 Ай бұрын
Very true, and in this case my finger was touching the condenser and that messed up the reading. I checked later and that condenser was also good
@ramalingamsubramanian5132
@ramalingamsubramanian5132 Ай бұрын
Excellent. Thank you. I actually tried pulling the lever and broke it. I was searching how to remove and landed to ur video. It is very helpful thank you
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 Ай бұрын
Thank you, so glad the video could help. Good luck and thanks for watching
@sobo5476
@sobo5476 Ай бұрын
Have a feeling that mine may have the same problem with the tube for the air. I took the carburetor off last night only to discover I have lost my WD40 to clean it, I'm convinced it's the tube, but giving the carburetor a good clean won't do it any harm.
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 Ай бұрын
I also took the carb off to clean, so many times! Also replaced the coil. If you have the original "Torch" spark plug, better change it, its junk. The big breakthrough was that little tube, mine was perished although the trimmer was only 6 months old. I think WD40 might leave a residue behind which could clog the carb, a proper carb cleaner is the way to go. Good luck to you, hope you get it running soon and thanks for your comment and for watching
@dallasfett
@dallasfett Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. How do you know when you have a bad condenser? I have tested mine and I get nothing, I assume this could be a bad condenser. That said for some reason I do not have 20M on my multimeter, I have 200k.
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 Ай бұрын
you're welcome dallas, I speak under correction, but I think that if the resistance (ohms) is higher than the 200k then it won't register at all. Thats why you need 20M or even 200M. The reading should go from low to high and end at 1 which is infinity. If it starts off high then its a bad condenser
@tomnekuda3818
@tomnekuda3818 Ай бұрын
I didn't learn jack-shit from your vid.
@Wet_Soap
@Wet_Soap Ай бұрын
What kind of spark plug boot if this for, I have a crf450r and I’m having ploblems with the boot
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 Ай бұрын
This one is for a weedeater/grass trimmer, I'm sure your one looks a lot different but its purpose remains the same
@Wet_Soap
@Wet_Soap Ай бұрын
Ohh okay thank you so much
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 Ай бұрын
@@Wet_Soap You're welcome, love your rescued snail by the way😀
@Wet_Soap
@Wet_Soap Ай бұрын
Awwww thank you
@stuartcarter1724
@stuartcarter1724 Ай бұрын
If you want to find if a condenser is faulty remove the points and if there face’s are black it’s faulty no need for multimeter’s old time mechanic hack
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 Ай бұрын
Thanks so much Stuart, thats one to remember
@rsmith5196
@rsmith5196 Ай бұрын
Looks like the normal issue with these ... needs the clutch replacing/repairing. The blade shouldn't be going round on tickover like it is in the video it should only cut in when you rev it up ... with the clutch permanently engaged you need excessive revs to keep the engine turning or it stalls. Had the same issue on mine within 6 months of purchase ... seems to be an issue with them.
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 Ай бұрын
My problems also started about 6 months in. I hadn't even used up the free trimmer line that comes with the trimmer! Spent so much time on this trimmer and I've been using my other 2 trimmers instead. I finally changed the spark plug (Torch) and that has made a big difference
@rsmith5196
@rsmith5196 Ай бұрын
​@davekennedy52 definitely check the clutch as it is clearly an issue ... the blade should not go round on tickover like in the video. Very easy to do .... take the filter cover off then undo all the lower case screws and the top cover screws except the ones fixing the top cover to the motor. You will then be able to separate the motor and the shaft without undoing any other parts. The clutch is just 2 bolts .... its a 10 minute job so long as nothing has jammed. Mine was just a broken spring but I changed the complete clutch for about £50. All the starting and running/stalling issues disappeared with the clutch repair.
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 Ай бұрын
@@rsmith5196 Thanks for the suggestion, So many screws holding the cover in place- I think about 10 at the back alone. Hopefully the clutch just needs a clean and maybe I can slacked off the idle speed a bit. Its running a lot smoother now after I replaced the little rubber 90 degree tube on top of the carb. It was letting in false air and upsetting the fuel/air mixture
@rsmith5196
@rsmith5196 Ай бұрын
It'll most likely be a spring as it's the spring that disengages the clutch as low revs ... you rev up and the centrifugal force pushes out drum brake like pads ... very simple to take apart but leave the top cover connected to the motor and don't disengage the cables as its easy to do without. What you show in your video is way more complicated than the clutch.
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 Ай бұрын
@@rsmith5196 Thanks, but definitely not the clutch spring, I checked. Spark plug was black so reduced the fuel mixture and lowered the revs and its perfect now, thanks for all your info
@barneycasting8331
@barneycasting8331 Ай бұрын
We have repeatedly asked KZfaq to take down this video because it hurts our business of selling the whole spark plug cable as well as a clear violation of code 435.6
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 Ай бұрын
no words for you barney boy, nice try
@THENDCOWBOY1
@THENDCOWBOY1 2 ай бұрын
You saved a lot of time and a little money. Thank you. Very clear and concise. Excellent video!
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
Many thanks Justin, glad that you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching
@1965KevinS
@1965KevinS 2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for posting this video. I made a stupid mistake and pulled the boot off the plug wire of a very old lawn mower. I dug around and found this video, and I was able to fix it even with it being a different engine.
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
Love a story that ends well! Thanks Kevin, glad the video could help
@thebratp7953
@thebratp7953 2 ай бұрын
Thank you 😊, you helped me out today 🎉🎉
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
You're very welcome, glad you enjoyed the video
@deosiewilson732
@deosiewilson732 2 ай бұрын
Excellent information..... unfortunately for me the spark plug lead is just long enough to go on the plug ..... no extra to actually push through the cap and attach ..... But good video regardless....🎉
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Deosie, I've also noticed that on the newer grass trimmers leads, there's not a centimetre to spare. Chainsaws are the same. Hope you find a solution
@januszmatyja324
@januszmatyja324 2 ай бұрын
Bardzo fajnie pokazałeś. Super! Bardzo mnie się przydał twój filmik. W mojej kosiarce właśnie taką była awaria. Pozdrawiam.
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
Dziękuję, bardzo się cieszę, że mój film mógł Ci pomóc i rozwiązać Twój problem. Dzięki za oglądanie
@jimmycazares411
@jimmycazares411 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, I just fixed my trimmer by following your method. Saved me from replacing the whole spark plug cable.
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
You're welcome Jimmy, so glad that the video helped, thanks for the feedback
@markroth9827
@markroth9827 2 ай бұрын
Your accent makes the video sound more official. Thank you.
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
Hey Mark sorry for late reply, glad you enjoyed the video. Yes, South African accent, very noticeable😁
@streetglidesixteen9570
@streetglidesixteen9570 2 ай бұрын
An interesting equation that I saw first hand. I had hit a stump root and stalled my mower. Upon restart I noticed a severe vibration transferring right into my hands. After removing the plug wire I inspected the blade and it looked ok. My first thought of dread was that perhaps I bent the shaft on the motor and I should start the mower to see how the motor itself would run. 4:13 😅 Without the blade I attempted to start the mower. Same thing, rope pulled right out of my hand. I did get it to start after a few stubborn attempts and the mower ran terrible. My problem, thank goodness was the two pin guide that the blade attaches to had gotten a bit damaged as one of the pins got partially broke and the blade must of skipped past it. I was able to reposition blade and tighten, all good. Thanks for the video. I got to stay away from stumps!
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
I could write a book about everyone's experiences! What you said about "after a few stubborn attempts" is probably true about all of us who have tried and tried again. Determined to get it running and getting hurt every time. Thanks for the story and glad you got your problem sorted
@torbenkofoed9846
@torbenkofoed9846 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video - I have the same trimmer - and it will not start after the winter. No spark - so replaced. Made sure that I had compression and fuel. So assume that the coil is the main culprit - Where did you get it? I can only coils from weird web-shops that sells everything.
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
You're welcome! I've had quite a few problems with this strimmer so check out some of the videos. Especially check the one where I change that little rubber hose at the back of the carb. 2 weeks ago I put in a new spark plug and its made all the difference. I got the coil off Amazon France. Its called a "bobine d'allumage" in French and just put in McCulloch B26. I've just checked and they are available.
@markinnam6991
@markinnam6991 2 ай бұрын
At the 25 second mark it seems to show a hole. later on it shows a nipple. Mine is the type with a hole. I managed to find the part in my parts box, it a small piece about 2 cm long with a right angle, on the short part of the angle is an enlarged portion which pushes into the hole, mine is a bit loose so I've used RTV silicone to seal it in. the saw is a Jasonsky made by jason sky group ( never heard of them ) Hers hoping it works with no leaks.
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
Mark. The breather pipe fits onto a nipple. There is another hole below which is the oil reservoir and thats where the oil filter is. Make sure that this big hole is connected to your oil pump. check my other video and see if it answers your question. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ga6gY8V0m66dpmQ.html
@bdetert82
@bdetert82 2 ай бұрын
your skin can't be touching the metal at 20m or your just measuring the resistance of your body.
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Brian, very observant of you, only a handful of people have picked up on that. Didn't realize I did it until a week after I put the video up
@dhcwoodcarving.channaamara7226
@dhcwoodcarving.channaamara7226 2 ай бұрын
Wow nice
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Channa, the new wick has made a big difference, we had a cold winter
@dhcwoodcarving.channaamara7226
@dhcwoodcarving.channaamara7226 2 ай бұрын
@@davekennedy52oh yes I understand brother
@dhcwoodcarving.channaamara7226
@dhcwoodcarving.channaamara7226 2 ай бұрын
@@davekennedy52 where are you from brother?
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
I'm South African, living in France
@dhcwoodcarving.channaamara7226
@dhcwoodcarving.channaamara7226 2 ай бұрын
Okay brother
@dhcwoodcarving.channaamara7226
@dhcwoodcarving.channaamara7226 2 ай бұрын
Thanks brother
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
You're very welcome, love your work by the way!!
@dhcwoodcarving.channaamara7226
@dhcwoodcarving.channaamara7226 2 ай бұрын
Thanks brother for me very important your videos 🙏
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
Hi Channa, very pleased that you enjoy them. Of course your chainsaw should be kept in perfect condition for the work that you do
@dhcwoodcarving.channaamara7226
@dhcwoodcarving.channaamara7226 2 ай бұрын
@@davekennedy52 yes it's important. Very helpful for me your KZfaq videos thanks for sharing
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
You're welcome Channa
@markinnam6991
@markinnam6991 2 ай бұрын
Hi Dave, I have 1 of these units and can't find any info as to how and a visual on the oil pipe being attached to the filter, the oil resivior is an odd internal shape and it seems the filter is a tight fit not leaving much room for pipe attachment. Can you help, mark.
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
Hi Mark, the oil breather pipe won't be attached to the filter, but rather to a vent pipe from the oil reservoir. 2 of my chainsaws have oil breather pipes as per my video, but the 3rd one, a McCulloch CS340 has the reservoir in the front and I'm still looking for the breather vent, Will let you know when I do. It might help you to download an expanded diagram showing all parts of your unit and it will show the breather pipe.
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
Hi Mark, I found the breather pipe on my McCulloch, might be the same for your chainsaw. Take the chain and bar off and you will see a little tin cover that covers the oiler for the chain. Remove the tin plate and the breather tube is in the bottom right corner. Hope that helps
@markinnam6991
@markinnam6991 2 ай бұрын
@@davekennedy52 What model McCulloch
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
@@markinnam6991 Its a McCulloch cs340 you might have missed one of my replies where I mentioned it (see above)
@gamesarefun315
@gamesarefun315 2 ай бұрын
Any one know if this type of boot will fit on a atv in specific a honda act 110
@dowan007
@dowan007 2 ай бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks mine works fine after replacing the tube
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 2 ай бұрын
Hi Dogan, so glad my video could help, took me a long time to find that problem. Sorry for late reply, no internet for a week!!!
@moalyan3798
@moalyan3798 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much sir
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 3 ай бұрын
Hi Mo, glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching. keep well!
@HorseMalone
@HorseMalone 3 ай бұрын
Buy a set of leads with crocodile clips or even make them FFS
@user-qw6os7mh4o
@user-qw6os7mh4o 3 ай бұрын
lekker like a krekker....sat in here in the middle of the UK with a problem on a relatively new Hyundai strimmer... this just showed me how it could be done.... strimmer back up in running - cheers boet!
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 3 ай бұрын
Hey Wayne, you just made my day in more ways than one!! Firstly, glad my video could help and secondly nice to hear from someone who can "gooi die taal" Dankie and lekker bly!
@user-qw6os7mh4o
@user-qw6os7mh4o 3 ай бұрын
@@davekennedy52 bloody strimmer was literally brand new and the coil parted ways so i followed most of what you did and hey presto, Bob is your mothers brother! Lived in SA for 6 years before getting hijacked in 2002.... missed it terribly since! Head of the Irish Clutchplates!
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 3 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about your hijacking. I was so tired of living behind burglar bars, electric fencing, securit gates and armed response. my car was broken into about 20 times in 5 years. Moved to France in 2008! Don't know what make of strimmer you have but I have a problem with a new McCulloch. Yesterday it died for the 3rd time
@ChrisWillis-li1ed
@ChrisWillis-li1ed 3 ай бұрын
NO SHIT? What a great way to think outaide the box!!!! I have this exact problem, went to you tube, and BAM! THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!!!
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Chris, I've never bothered putting in a new primer bulb, this method works just fine for me😁
@frederickcwinterburn1837
@frederickcwinterburn1837 3 ай бұрын
Sorry, but that's not how the Kettering system works. Ignition occurs when the points open, not when they re-close. The primary purpose of the condenser is to extinguish the arc at the points as they open. The high voltage due to self induction produces an arc at the points as they begin to open. The condenser absorbs this energy thus reducing the arc strength to a low enough level that the points will last. Furthermore, any energy lost through arcing is energy lost to the spark gap. Without the condenser, the arcing is so severe that there may not be enough energy to form a spark at the plugs as too much is shunted to ground via arcing. The condenser solves this by absorbing the arc energy, storing it, and then giving it back once the coil voltage drops sufficiently during the spark event. The spark once formed is DC current with the Kettering system. Once the spark extinguishes and the spark plug gaps become highly resistive again, any residual energy is lost by energy transfer between the coil and the condenser capacitance (and coil capacitance) as I2R losses. Once the points close again there is but a tiny amount of energy left in the system and the coil re-fluxes for the next spark event. The ignition condenser (always referred to as a condenser, not a capacitor in this application) is sized appropriately (usually 0.2µF to 0.3µF). Too small and it won't suppress the arc sufficiently, and too large and it will continue to absorb energy and suppress the coil voltage such that there is not enough energy or voltage to produce a spark at the plugs. An extremely large condenser will also cause pitting on the other side of the points. This is due to misfires (due to the lower voltage and excessive storage of energy in the condenser) that result in all of the energy staying within the coil and condenser circuit, and despite decaying due to oscillations with the coil and the subsequent I2R losses, enough is left over that when the points re-close pitting occurs on point closure. The closure of the points just happens to coincide with an opposing polarity as the energy rings out which is why the pitting is usually on the opposite side.
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the technical info Frederick, appreciate it!
@anthonycarling
@anthonycarling 3 ай бұрын
Hello Joe instructions, did not work. I think when you put the wire in the throttle butterfly, the choke must be open, not closed?
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Anthony, I know that I said that the choke should be closed, but it actually doesn't make any difference when you first set the throttle butterfly gap. The choke flap only has to be closed when starting cold. Of course when you screw in the idle speed screw to make the engine turn over faster, the throttle butterfly gap will also open a little more. What is really important is the idle mixture screw which is usually set at about 3 turns outwards. Remember this screw only sets the mixture for idle, it has nothing to do with the running of the engine when you're driving. Good luck!
@seanbryers29
@seanbryers29 3 ай бұрын
Thanks videos like this keep people from doing a bunch of unneeded work. I really appreciate your tutorial
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 3 ай бұрын
You're very welcome Sean, glad you enjoyed it!!
@Floridamarty
@Floridamarty 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant!
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Marty, glad you enjoyed it!!
@joshhanna4922
@joshhanna4922 4 ай бұрын
Great video. Exactly the one I needed. However, I am having a problem that you might can help. At about the 1:25 mark you back out the white worm gear. When I spin mine counter, it doesn't loosen at all. Just keeps spinning. I am wondering if you can help me figure out what is happening. I don't want to pry on it. I feel like I am missing something. Thanks.
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! All that is happening is your white worm gear is turning the gear on the oil pump. My oil pump gear was seized so it looks like I was unscrewing it. Put a small screw driver into the side and pry it upwards and at the same time turn it counter clockwise. If I remember correctly you might be able to remove the whole oil pump with that white gear in place.
@joshhanna4922
@joshhanna4922 4 ай бұрын
Thank you I will try that. My model is slightly different than yours, and it won't allow the oiler plate to come off to access the pump until that white gear comes off. @@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 4 ай бұрын
@@joshhanna4922 Could also be that the white gear is just worn and not making contact with the oil pump gear. It might just lift out. Good luck!
@user-fp2io6iy5m
@user-fp2io6iy5m 4 ай бұрын
Nice!
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 4 ай бұрын
Hi Steven, glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for the comment and for watching
@danielcortesrod
@danielcortesrod 4 ай бұрын
Hi Sr. Thanks for sharing your video, I pick a couple of tips specially when the adjustment of the knob/spring part. Regards from Chile 🇨🇱
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 4 ай бұрын
Hi Daniel, glad my video could help. Keep warm and thanks for watching
@andrew353w
@andrew353w 4 ай бұрын
As excellent way to set the timing statically! I do exactly this when doing the this, but use a 5 watt 12 volt bulb with 2 leads. I clip one side of the bulb to the wire from the coil to the points and the other to a good earth. With the ignition ON, when the points are closed the current flows through the coil and the points to earth, As the points open the current then flows through the bulb, so you can tell precisely when the points open. Electrically it's the same principle, but it's possibly easier to see a bulb illuminate, as opposed to a small spark. I'm glad there are other "old school" mechanics like me out there-keep it up!
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Andrew, I've seen this method before but never tried it myself. As the points open, I usually listen for the little "click" of the spark, although admittedly the bulb would be very noticeable. And yes, usually "old school" methods make more sense to me
@haniyehmaghsoudi2818
@haniyehmaghsoudi2818 4 ай бұрын
Very useful video😍 thank you How often should you do that process?
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video, once a year should be fine. Keep warm!!
@tjeboy
@tjeboy 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time for posting the video. It helped me to replace the choke plate for Subaru EA190V (coscto) replacement carburetor
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 4 ай бұрын
You're very welcome tjeboy, really glad that the video could help you
@andrew353w
@andrew353w 4 ай бұрын
Hi there! I think I'm the "A", who advised you about condensers on the Renault 4 Forum! When one tests condensers it's best to wear thin rubber gloves, as the moisture in one's fingers and hands cause current to leak & affect the meter readings. While testing the (I think) third one your fingers were on both the lead and the condenser body simultaneously, which may have caused you to condemn a condenser to an early grave!
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 4 ай бұрын
So nice to hear from you again! Yes you are indeed the Andrew from the Renault 4 forum who advised me on the condenser. As you can see, its a very popular video, so thank you! Quite a few people have commented on that 3rd condenser and when I viewed the video again, I realised that I had touched it while testing. I went back later and re-tested and had a good reading so no harm done. Thanks again Andrew and for the advice on the gloves
@michaellyda7460
@michaellyda7460 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this!
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 4 ай бұрын
You're very welcome Michael, glad you enjoyed it
@user-wk8gg2uj8b
@user-wk8gg2uj8b 4 ай бұрын
This design is so stupid why can’t the coil come with boot and better design then pinching the wire then shoving it thru the boot
@davekennedy52
@davekennedy52 4 ай бұрын
I agree entirely, not too much thought given to this design and when it fails we have to come up with a solution