We used that QSC with Cerwin Vega V-152 at the start of the warehouse AV project, it was simply terrible. Behringer was also a known budget amp that was a little less than stated. Never been a fan of the budget PA amps but keep hearing Crown budgets are good. We ended up with Yamaha's, starting with P3200 then it was a rack of P3500S and P5000S for all channels. My lad now uses a P3200 with Cerwin Vega V152 often.

If we cannot get the TS parameters of the drivers, and information is as rare as unicorn poop, I am guessing the majority of Cerwin Vega out there are all measuring different with the majority repaired with any old part available. Still looking for the TS parameters of the bass drivers in the V-152.

Have you done much work with the old unloved V-152 speakers, no one seems to be able to find TS parameters for the bass drivers in these old things, yet I actually like the bass drivers in these. I have even used them for a budget cinema all be it as smalls in a 5/2 and later 7/2 set up. My lad loves the old Cerwins, wife hates them, I sometimes wonder, if I had the TS parameters, could I rebuild them into three ways with nicer cabinets and please all of us.

Have you ever tried a athem?

I'm going to be rebuilding my old Realistic Optimus STS-1000 3-way speakers with all new speakers and a "real" crossover very soon. I'm still waiting for parts.

If you paid 300 to have 2 d-9 woofers refoamed and reconed and the center caps came out tilted like 30° off. What would you do? Should i deemand the shop fix it, or am I overreacting?

What a memory! R JBL’S L-65 cross over difficult

If I push down on one side of the driver cone & hear scraping, but not if I evenly press down on the entire cone, is there a problem?

Love them Vegas !!

What kind of glue for the foam?

What kind of glue can i buy off Amazon or ebay? I have new foams need glue tho

Preston I am confused about the inductors 3.2 ????????MH Milla Henry. What gauge ? 16? Where did you get your inductors

had 2 pioneer old school brown tower 12 inch speakers from 1999 that had 12 woofers blown, replaced with cheap 150w rms hifonics Subwoofer.... got a dual 4 ohm sub wired to 8 ohm cause thats what the original was.... i know the max frequency i should send a sub said 500HZ (Manual said this... lol) but i said screw it... and wow they sound great and the bass was about double what it used to be... i listed to lot of rap and house music... and this is the way...dont even need a sub and it hits the lows that the speaker couldn't do before.... i still love my oem vegas i have but these pioneer are now shocking... i guess its all about what you listen to and what you want from speaker...lol

Worked perfectly on my Celestion V30 speaker that I dented with a microphone. Thanks!

Hello Preston i have decided on a pr of used vs120s. Can you direct me to where i should purchase the foam surrounds...thx

great videos. one qustion though... I understand putting the bracing inside to make the strucure more solid , but... does it not change thequality of the resonant and sounf of the speaker ? im not that purist but still there must have been reason why they originally didnt do it ?

I have a pair of AT-100s (AT-15s) driven by a DBX BX-3 MK II. 400Wx2 0.01% THD. Dynamic power 900Wx2, both at 4 ohms. I've heard better sounding speakers, but none can shake my guts like these.

i have an E-715 cabinet and it is big...REALLY BIG!!! I blew the 15 inch woofer though😪 I am going to rebuild it one day.

Hey Preston...I came across your channel after trying to find ANY decent info and specs on a pair of CV HP-215s I recently purchased for use in the shop. The speakers play nice, but lack the low-frequency thump and possess piercing highs...not what I expected from sub cabinets with four 15" woofers; I'm thinking that's due to the older Pioneer VSX-D1S receiver I hooked them to, so am currently looking for an equalizer to help, but I did read that these tend to need a LOT of power. As it stands, I'm in Mode 1 on the receiver (130 watts per channel) so I can't imagine that is the cause, especially since they play without the distortion, just not overly deep. I did find a cerwin vega fans forum online, but there is no way to register for logging in, and I've pretty much tapped out google. Is there any information you can pass along?

In 1986 i purchased a pair of D5 and a sansui amp A1200R and still uses them to this day. I had to refoam them 8 years ago it was pretty simple. Still love the setup and shaking the pictures off the walls. Love them Serwin Vega the best.

Hello Preston from Meaford Ontario Canada,I have purchased a pr of Cerwin Vega VS 120's for $250 and of course requires surrounds I am going to do a full blown resto mod custom bracing sound dampening and will incorporate the Royd Audio technology that wicks away all vibration in the magnets where the distortion starts using pvc pipe and anti acoustic caulking and i will use t nunts for all drivers however i was hoping to ask you about the crossover as i was wanting to use all Mundorf components including resistors and air core inductors and i wanted to ask you can i make these bi amp dual binding posts and then be able to use two amps to really get pure quality sound or is this speaker best operational with its original crossover set up not necessarily with the old components but with new ones... obviously if i could i would have to cut out the back to fit a bigger five way connector plug ...thank you good sir and i can't wait to get my Vegs never owned a pr before oh and also is it ok to use that PL Construct adhesive to seal the inside of the cabinet i figure that clear caulking you use is good but I'm thinking construction adhesive would be ideal in such a spl environment...also i will be putting five inch squared quarter inch thick steel plates glued to the side inwall cabinets ....thank you good sir and Big or small savem all

Used to sell CVs through a chain called Custom Hi-Fi that was around in the 70s. These things were best for getting LOUD without breaking. They weren't exactly known for fidelity.

I suppose at some time I will have to do this to my D9's. I Tri-amped them 15 years ago, the crossovers haven't had current in them since then.

How does The 12TR sound, sound quality wise, compared to other CV's you have tried? I've heard that they should be one of the best they've ever made (Vega 500 is better but they aren't Cerwin Vega)

Cerwin Vega definitely has a formidable following. Their vintage stuff is super popular in many countries. That's why I just can't wrap my head around why they're not reviving old models and whole vintage series, or at least making replacement parts available. Heck, I think that if they provided flatpacked cabinets and diy kits for old and discontinued models, they might outsell even their new stuff 😅 I know that the mainstream hifi enthusiasts swear to tiny bookshelf matchbox speakers or "microscopic bluetooth sound emmitting things", and rarely turns their volume knob above 8-9 o'clock in fear of domestic violence or being bullied by their neighbors for their taste of music. But Cerwin Vega isn't for the mainstream, Gene Czerwinski pretty much said it all with his "loud is good" quote. If you need a replacement tweeter diaphragm or a midrange driver for those classic models in my country, you have to sell your house and lose a few organs to afford them. And that second-hand market is a little bit like gambling, as stuff might be listed as working. But once you get it, you might discover that the voice coil is cooked or even burned to a crisp. Cerwin Vega should look at what behringer is doing with the whole vintage synth thing. Re releasing clones of old classics... it might just be a question of time before behringer makes cerwin vega clones. 😂 I ❤ the saving vegas channel! Keep up the good work 🫡

I ended up with an original CV Earthquake 18" from an old box. I'm kinda scared to play it.

Do you know anything about the cerwin Vega d8e

Very interesting,The Round style looks so much better in the cabinet Preston!

Are there any that do not sound bad?

Hi Preston. Nice video. Barry

Man, those CV's have some horrible high frequency curves. What is that like a 10dB spike around 15K. I'll never be buying any CV speakers for anything other than maybe a garage stereo. LOL.

I love my D2's

I rebuilt a pair of stripped vs150's and 3 way 15"s cerwin vegas from the 70's in my own way using vmax 1998 subwoofers crossed over at 200 hz to the midrange (enlarged to 6.5's) and 2 khz from midrange to tweeter (1 inch compression drivers) they have excellent midrange which most of the stock 12 to 15 inch cv's lack. I just based the design and crossover from the loudspeaker cookbook which ALL professionals collected their knowledge into.

I just got a set of VS-120. Not too shabby but i thought the tweeter was lacking and the mids are to in your face. Is there any mods or replacements for the tweets and mids ?

EXPERIMENT: Put a good woofer in a speaker box with a 5.6 mh inductor and a resister (if needed to decrease woofer level). Then mount an open 5" full range driver on top of the speaker box (outside the box). For quick fix, use plasticine, modling clay or lots of Blue Tack to mount the open driver (sloped back a bit for more relaxed sound and more 3D). Wire the open FR driver up straight with no crossover/filter on it, with external wires connected in parl with the binding posts. Preferably 8 ohm drivers for more impedance with the parl connected whole signal FR drivers. Best sound ever, once you balance the driver levels. Most likely you won't have to resist the open FR drivers (hopefully). It's dipole and sounds like panel speakers (for so cheap). Medrange is so clean! And if there is any REVERB in a recording you are going to hear it! Try a sweep on it! 😅

I have a pair of CV 120VS speakers... bought them from Circuit City in the early 90's... The foam has deteriorated after the years...are you able to restore them? woofer and mids...?

Very cool I am going to recon 4 ohm cv 18 stroker drivers in new Zealand I can recoil but I would rather re kit but having issues getting parts can you help

Great video on upgrading the D9 crossovers. Any chance a person could mail in 2 D9 crossovers to you do do the same upgrade? I just bought a very nice pair of CV D9's and I feel they could very much use the upgrade you did in this video for them. My highs and mids are pretty lame and the base could be better. If you don't do these for clients, do you know who could? I am in Northern California. Thanks!

Hello good sir from Meaford Ontario Canada, I have an opportunity to purchase a pr of Cerwin Vega VS 150's for $200 without original woofers, I wish to restore them if I get them if I can replace those woofers with original s ...do you have a pr of AX-15 s for VS-150 or know where I can get them ..I saw one on eBay but I need two ...thx brother please let me know

Sensitivity

Cool, I had the HED351s back in the early 80s. Fun speaker!

What you MUST know to replace a woofer in a 2-way / 3-way: (both old one and new one) 1.) Impedance 2.) Qts 3.) Required volume 4.) frequency response 5.) sensitivity / efficiency 6.) physical dimensions

I’ve a question I see different sizes (6x30 or 5/20) 6 amp fuses. Which is the correct one to use?

One effect is that you get a mesmerizing red ring in your woofer. You won't hear the difference after your woofer hypnotized you 😂😂

why replace . rebuild with better parts . lord of bass sells all the parts and just about anyone with a brain can do it . there are 1000s of videos how to

i think the vs sound muddy and lackluster i have replaced woofers with much better sounding woofers form another brand but before i did that i took the woofer out and looked at the fs and qts of the woofer and matched them with some larger xmax woofers that i had laying around that made the sound fuller

Good video!

I used to sweat building my subwoofer boxes exactly to spec and confirm with REW but since I started using a DSP I realized I can hit my target curve regardless of the raw measurement..now I can build the box a little small for more power handling and tune that accompanying peak out.

you didnt show how to "properly refoam" a speaker. you just talked about how that one was bad,...but NOT bad. pretty sure I just wasted 4:44.

You have completely overlooked the MOST important thing. CV speakers are all ported, and each cabinet and port are designed around the parameters of the woofer used, to tune the bass response of the box with that woofer, based on the Vas, Q, and free air resonance of the woofer.