This is nice, but what we really need is American style presidential debates where the top 4 or 5 LEADERS, not party representatives take part. True to ANC, they ran scared. Bad optics, Ramaphosa

I answered and said, "If I have found favor in thy sight, O Lord, show this also to thy servant: whether after death, as soon as every one of us yields up his soul, we shall be kept in rest until those times come when thou wilt renew the creation, or whether we shall be tormented at once?" 76 He answered me and said, "I will show you that also, but do not be associated with those who have shown scorn, nor number yourself among those who are tormented. 77 For you have a treasure of works laid up with the Most High; but it will not be shown to you until the last times. 78 Now, concerning death, the teaching is: When the decisive decree has gone forth from the Most High that a man shall die, as the spirit leaves the body to return again to him who gave it, first of all it adores the glory of the Most High. 79 And if it is one of those who have shown scorn and have not kept the way of the Most High, and who have despised his law, and who have hated those who fear the Most High -- 80 such spirits shall not enter into habitations, but shall immediately wander about in torments, ever grieving and sad, in seven ways. 81 The first way, because they have scorned the law of the Most High. 82 The second way, because they cannot now make a good repentance that they may live. 83 The third way, they shall see the reward laid up for those who have trusted the covenants of the Most High. 84 The fourth way, they shall consider the torment laid up for themselves in the last days. 85 The fifth way, they shall see how the habitations of the others are guarded by angels in profound quiet. 86 The sixth way, they shall see how some of them will pass over into torments. 87 The seventh way, which is worse than all the ways that have been mentioned, because they shall utterly waste away in confusion and be consumed with shame, and shall wither with fear at seeing the glory of the Most High before whom they sinned while they were alive, and before whom they are to be judged in the last times. 88 "Now this is the order of those who have kept the ways of the Most High, when they shall be separated from their mortal body. 89 During the time that they lived in it, they laboriously served the Most High, and withstood danger every hour, that they might keep the law of the Lawgiver perfectly. 90 Therefore this is the teaching concerning them: 91 First of all, they shall see with great joy the glory of him who receives them, for they shall have rest in seven orders. 92 The first order, because they have striven with great effort to overcome the evil thought which was formed with them, that it might not lead them astray from life into death. 93 The second order, because they see the perplexity in which the souls of the unrighteous wander, and the punishment that awaits them. 94 The third order, they see the witness which he who formed them bears concerning them, that while they were alive they kept the law which was given them in trust. 95 The fourth order, they understand the rest which they now enjoy, being gathered into their chambers and guarded by angels in profound quiet, and the glory which awaits them in the last days. 96 The fifth order, they rejoice that they have now escaped what is corruptible, and shall inherit what is to come; and besides they see the straits and toil from which they have been delivered, and the spacious liberty which they are to receive and enjoy in immortality. 97 The sixth order, when it is shown to them how their face is to shine like the sun, and how they are to be made like the light of the stars, being incorruptible from then on. 98 The seventh order, which is greater than all that have been mentioned, because they shall rejoice with boldness, and shall be confident without confusion, and shall be glad without fear, for they hasten to behold the face of him whom they served in life and from whom they are to receive their reward when glorified. 99 This is the order of the souls of the righteous, as henceforth is announced; and the aforesaid are the ways of torment which those who would not give heed shall suffer hereafter." 100 I answered and said, "Will time therefore be given to the souls, after they have been separated from the bodies, to see what you have described to me?" 101 He said to me, "They shall have freedom for seven days, so that during these seven days they may see the things of which you have been told, and afterwards they shall be gathered in their habitations." 102 I answered and said, "If I have found favor in thy sight, show further to me, thy servant, whether on the day of judgment the righteous will be able to intercede for the unrighteous or to entreat the Most High for them, 103 fathers for sons or sons for parents, brothers for brothers, relatives for their kinsmen, or friends for those who are most dear." 104 He answered me and said, "Since you have found favor in my sight, I will show you this also. The day of judgment is decisive and displays to all the seal of truth. Just as now a father does not send his son, or a son his father, or a master his servant, or a friend his dearest friend, to be ill or sleep or eat or be healed in his stead, 105 so no one shall ever pray for another on that day, neither shall any one lay a burden on another; for then every one shall bear his own righteousness and unrighteousness." .....2 Esdras 7:75 ////////////////

I’d like six cups of that chocolate bunny first thing in the morning😘

A miracle to survive that. What a brave man.

I hope they take away baby she thinks because she's pregnant she's going to get lite sentience. WHAT'S SHE GOING TO DO TO THIS BABY

Why is thatBig Smile on her face she thinks it's a joke. Whose child is next even if it's not your child. Feel very very sorry for Joslin. They must bring back death panelty. A child can't protect her self she didn't ask for it. All children is a gift of God. 🙏

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This woman is talking rubbish.. viva viva biltong

Blacks

The ANC only ever highlights the shortcomings in the Western Cape but never discuss what goes on in municipalities run by them. Have you seen the state of the Eastern Cape? Some residents of ANC-run municipalities must deal with road and water infrastructure repairs themselves because there's no money available due to corruption. In the western cape our service work. People in INFORMAL SETTLEMENT may disagree but they loge in informal settlement. And they do get services even though they migrate the wc to get aware from their poor functioning ANC run municipalities. Do the math. Also the ANC advocate for undereducating people. Why? So people can't thinking for themselves. That's what you get when you can "pass" math at 30%, proving that you didn't understand 70% of it. And then there's the gift that they've given us of loadshedding for 16 YEARS! WAKE UP MZANZI. loadshedding has only been suspended to manipulate voters. It will come back. Loadshedding pending.....

This debate was VERY well moderated. Way better than the mayhem of the Daily Maverick debate. That was sad. This debate was calm, easy to listen to and gave a fair platform to each speaker to defend their positions.

Fist thing out of his mouth was something stupid and misogynistic...

Rip

Keep that A'I Wing'ED. Never Too much educated.

A real she Devil in Human form. Sies.

Boring without the EFF! 🤬 😔😭. ❤ EFF

THANK YOU JUDGE AND ADV GALLOWAY

Amen 🙏🏽

Shame so sad condolences to all the families and friends

ANC brought us here

The poor woman must have been desperate. Not is old Squirrel an oil painting he also is not the sharpest tool in the shed. Reminds me of my petrol attendant Temptation. Either his mother was a supreme optimist or she was taking the piss.

😢RIP

The cops are useless

Yoh that mother is just pure evil she doesnt care one bit for her child. Thats a devils smile

Finayi a false

WTF??? That grimace from a "mother "who's child is missing without a trace???? Pure EVIL 😠😠

This woman had time to "do" her hair? That smile was for the camera, she could at least pretend to look sad.

He does not understand what he is trying to read.

Only justice is keeping him behind bars for the rest and of his life

4:43 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Rise Mzansi is extremely suspect . Any voter who votes for them will be voting for the ANC . Do not believe what their leader says, look at the reaction of his two supporters who gave great applause to the ANC and seemed to only be gunning for the DA. Why? Huge immaturity and vindictiveness was shown by them. The Anc representative was as incompetent as his party is . The other parties came over as genuine supporters of the South African people . Thank you.

2024 and this is still interesting 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Kort n goeie klap siek ding

🎉CHAMP WADE ❤❤❤❤

Is this behaviour of consistent infringement of human and religious rights going to be acceptable. It our countries constitution been taken for granted to allow this continuous none delivery.....

Its very sad, I dont even want to go to the park with my two grandkids😢😢

Tabloid junkie

Her hair is done, she is smiling. Why would a mother whos child is missing even care about her hair or even smile. She knows where her child is.

SHAMELESS

Yoh, prisoners nowadays look better than the public! Hair and clothes 😮unfortunately, the mother has no remorse 😢 she knows and doesn't even care, she's got another baby on the way.

Kelly is sending messages to someone using the media by her actions in court. Thay smile was like shes telling someone, something.

How is Kelly getting such good treatment that her hair is done

Dont worry ANC we vote for you becouse we know what you did for 112years we apriciate we know for other parties is just a busness

This is now the beginning of the end for our beloved country! The 100's of BILLIONS of Rands needed for this to succeed are going to need stolen and every person in our country will be left destitute with NO Healthcare system in place at all. This needs to be stopped and the head of the serpent needs to be removed. We need divine intervention and restoration of justice and integrity. We the people of South Africa need to rise up and take action against this gang of thieves!!!

10 yeqrs ago.. asb wake tog up commentary commitee... Did yall hear the part he says they are not stagnant????

Is that a baby bump!?!

Rammed?????

Voting tomorrow for @Action4SA

Ofcoz one gives up you all know that she is gorn and the family don't want to say where and to what happened SAPS HAS NOT done what's necessary to bring justice and find JOSLIN AND BRING HER HOME SAD SO MANY ARE INVOLVED AND NOT ONE OF THEM HAS A HEART OR CONSCIOUS

Kelly is feeling her hair! Loving it! Never been so nice ever! Prison is good neh!