Listening to you two recap a tournament while driving whilst i myself am driving is top-shelf content

Next time, tell your sick to go home and do the video, geeze! 😂

Cool report! Sounds like some truly epic games! Totally agree with your assessment that the issue was the saltiness, not the offering to draw it out

Congrats on the win! I was the Shire player haha

If you have the shooting advantage then they need to come to you, they can't throw in the towel and not play. Lots of matches are lobsided and you can't just quit the game immediately. It's the reason why he took the bolt thrower, he wanted shooting supremacy and if an opponent just threw in the towel straight away I wonder how he would react.

49:08 The Lothlorien 6 to save the banner?! Wow! Epic story!

Sucks to hear about Andrew's Game 3. Getting stand and shot at is never fun for anyone ever so I understand at a meta level the frustration especially when your response is neutered. I think it just kind of points to how abysmal the scenario design is that it rewards shooting. Good job by Andrew doing what he can to mitigate the tilt though

The audio book narrated by Robert Inglis pronounces Gil Galad with the emphasis on GAL. GG for short is better as all real rockers know the GG Alad hit “Burn Me, You Scum”

Gonna be fun looking at the analytics for this video when the first 100 viewers all skipped the first 17 minutes and 30 seconds.

Are those printed? If so what maker? Id love to make some for myself

Hi there, great battlerep. Just have one question. With the errate from Feb '24 monsters with the fly special rule don't have in-the-ways (if not engaged). So Gully should have been targeted earlier. Am i right or am i missing somethin?

Great batrep chaps, what makes your videos so great is the friendship and banter that is apparent in each of your videos. Definitely up there with the best mesbg content creators. Keep it up ❤️

Wow Gully got crushed. Great game from the rangers. The dice gods did not grace Steven this day.

I thought if you had a penalty to you duel roll (such as 2 handed, banner, shade) then you were effectively capped at 5? But you guys are mighting up to 6, so I assume I was mistaken.

I love The Grey Company so much. That 6" Fearless banner should just make Dead March Spectres irrelevant.

When I was running the numbers in my head... I figured 23 bow shots with a heroic accuracy had a very very good chance of killing Gulavhar in one round of shooting. Just couldn't risk it... but in hindsight probably just should have! -Steven

How angmar didn’t just swamp them astounds me. Gully waiting a few turns and then getting flash killed is crazy.

Shoulda got gully in sooner :)

The dice by Andrew were so on brand for shooting. Tons of 6’s on In The Ways, tons of 1’s to Wound. Then, BOOM! Combat starts and it completely flips!

Those rangers being 30pts each is just crazy. Love to see them play but never seems competitive. Their might gets used in the first round usually just to kill one enemy. Then they’re just squishy

Bye bye Gully! yea Andrew!

Yo what’s the music ?

Nice report mate. Great sportsmanship as well after you realised the error always the best way

I tried a version of this list at 800 with Erestor swapped with Arwen on Asfaloth (down to 8 Might with the swap but 8 is still plenty with Elrond's Foresight), two more Riv Knights (3 in total), 3 more Elf Bows (11 from 8) and one fewer model overall (29 from 30) and it worked quite well (proper shield & spear ratio as well). Double Bruinen and plenty of cav charges coupled with the brutal -1 Courage Dismay bubble projects effective board control and some good opportunities to deal decent damage. This list concept really is great if you have an Evil and magic-heavy meta in your local group.

What an swarm of gobbos xD, dragons are absolute mince, they are soooo overcosted

No need for a shaman while using black nums as Frontline. Bring a secondary transfix instead.

-Troll +20orcs

Do you have access to a 3d printer? Have some leads on some great modular water terrain options.

Dragons are the kings of sunk cost fallacy, they start at 300 and just keep going up. You don't think you can even justify the Dragon unless it has the Hide upgrade. The Defence 9 halves the number of wounds you take which means half the number of courage checks. Thats basically its base cost then you look at the other upgrades and decide if you want one of them... Which OF COURSE you do, its Flight so you can get anywhere (that your enemy lets you) and the Hide lets you feel more comfortable about flying because throwing spears, crossbows and longbows arent going to shred you nearly as badly... So thats 350 points. Maybe the Breathe Fire and try to go for that big AOE, control more space, with flight you actually have as much threat range as bows but with so much more lethality! Costs a Will point but you are so hard to wound now with all them scales maybe its worth that one singular crumb of Will from your stores. Most enemies will spread out just because of the threat and get less value from their auras... But not that Cirdan with his blasted Blinding Light. Wyrmtongue is unreliable, especially if you intend to actually be engaged ever. However, being able to nullify a 100 point enemy hero on a 3+ once per turn to try to earn the value back when you would not be doing anything noteworthy otherwise, or to pull someone into threat range to set up a trap, a heroic combat or a hurl. So clutch when the enemy is determined to turtle up... Maybe we take ALL of them. Only 450 points - why not, right? We're well over half a Smaug so why stop!? Yeah, probably too much. Or we can just commit to being a waddling roadblock dragon. Even with 6" movement its base size lets it threaten two objectives at once. Gets the In-The Ways from infantry, and can hide under trees from siege weapons, very hard to commit to fighting it in melee when most heroes need to spend Might to Strike and are only wounding on 6/4s even if they win. They need probably 5 won combats to actually kill it and if they flub the roll it Rends them for 4 strikes at 3+, that smarts. Easier to ignore that entire side of the board and kill goblins. I kind of wish you could pick from a more 'mise en place' list of upgrades, 25 for +1 Defence and +1 Wound is way more comfortable than 50 for +2 +2. Maybe you pay 25 points for one instance of fire and another 25 for another use. 25 points to be a fast dragon with a 10" walk speed then another 25 points on top if you want the Flight. That would be nice.

23:23 Did Steven forget to take off a dead goblin?

Keep using those evenstar white dice Andrew, they work well for you.

Fun report! One thing to note on the Dragon is that it doesn’t actually have any magic unless you upgrade it with Wyrmtongue (which probably isn’t worthwhile), so it’s actually worse in that way than you were assuming. You obviously didn’t cast with it anyway, but I thought you’d be interested in the extra little nerf. Speaking of magic, that was the one saving grace for the Dragon this game (and the reason there are much worse matchups available): it absolutely hates enemy offensive spellcasters and there weren’t any here. When you need your Will to stay alive, a classic double-caster Mordor or Angmar list is nightmarish for it. Drain Courage sucks, Sap Will sucks, Compel and Transfix suck, Black Dart can just kill you once you’re out of Will and Fate… It’s rough. I want to like the Dragon, but magic (and that base size) really makes it so much worse than it looks

19:50 DRAGONS AWFUL. 😭

doesnt the dragon have 3 fate as well or did they change the profile from when it was in the LOTR armies book?

Insane that the elf bows wound the dragon on just 6’s. So brutal

Did you guys forget the Dragon has Fate?

For water features: I use the river from Dungeons and lazers. You might want to get two sets.

that british and aussie slang just creeps into every day life

So you have a Elven army rolling 150% above EV in the first three turns alone....

Cool batrep, nicely done! Nice spiders models, who is the manufacturer?

I love to watch a more narrative style scenario personally. Bring it on!

What size base is the watcher

Thanks for a fun summary, and congrats on the podium! I definitely agree on the changes you’d make to the list; Ashrak is fun, but a Shaman does add quite a lot to the list as well as saving some points. Given how often the army breaks, Fury ends up being a pretty big deal in the lategame. Those retrospective errors always feel so rough; I remember taking out a tournament with the Watcher in the Water, only to be subsequently told that it was on the wrong base size the whole time. I’d bought it second-hand and pre-assembled, and just assumed that the base it was on was correct, but it still felt quite sad to suddenly have an asterisk over the whole thing. All of which is to say, don’t sweat it, these things happen, and kudos to you for doing the right thing afterwards

Great video guys! I´ve really enjoyed the battle! Just two thing, first, what happened with the shoots from orcs on the Great Beast, I can´t imagine you failed every single turn to try go down the goat of Thorin and two, did you try Flameburst with Kardush on Thorin? Anyway great game!! That Great beast is stunning!

Sweeeeeet sounds like a good laugh. Bit of a sweaty list tho :P

Chris and Rob! Great job on this tournament. Thanks for the insight and sharing Steve!

Those are some pretty great dragon and Watcher 3d prints (or proxies); where'd you get them?

This is basically exactly what you want with AoL: the dice consistently in your favor haha. Having played with that legion a fair bit, it's very powerful when the dice are going your way, but in general, if you have 1-2 bad turns (which you didn't here), it snowballs down hill very quickly as the army is incredibly fragile in close combat with the low defense and low fight value. If your opponent has faced it before and knows how to play against it and all the ways to counter it's tricks, yeah, it's a struggle to actually win anything once they get in close.

Andrew, i need you to get some lucky dice or a lucky charm or something, anything, please!