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@stevehawthorne9918
@stevehawthorne9918 12 сағат бұрын
How many have missed the comment that Network Rail invest only 1% of their budget in Wales despite there being 6% of track. This hasn’t changed. Rail in Wales is being set up to fail by Westminster and should be devolved as soon as possible.
@danielnesbitt9565
@danielnesbitt9565 15 сағат бұрын
GNER were one of the better franchise holders. While their initial HST refurb was naff (so much brown!), they knew how to deliver a good service. The hot food form the buffet (especially their Aberdeen Angus cheeseburgers with a white sauce/relish) was top notch and sadly unbeaten today.
@danielnesbitt9565
@danielnesbitt9565 16 сағат бұрын
I am old enough to remember what Virgin Trains were like when they they started operations. Virgin has always been about style over substance, and while Avanti are bad, the new Virgin Trains would have been exactly the same.
@AndrewG1989
@AndrewG1989 18 сағат бұрын
Virgin Trains East Coast just like National Express East Coast and open access franchise East Coast weren’t as good. And VTEC promised to bring better rail services on the East Coast Main Line. But somehow they didn’t. At least they have ordered new Hitachi Class 800 and Class 801 AT300 IETs to replace the Class 43 HST Mk3 and Class 91 Mk4. Which these new trains are now with LNER and are very nice trains.
@Vanmanyo
@Vanmanyo 13 сағат бұрын
East coast isn't open access! And VTEC didn't order the Azumas, I believe this was a government led project!
@simongleaden2864
@simongleaden2864 22 сағат бұрын
I wish the narrator would say "Aitch-Ess-Tee", not "Haitch-Ess-Tee".
@Vanmanyo
@Vanmanyo 22 сағат бұрын
You don't have to call me narrator!
@DeanBall75
@DeanBall75 22 сағат бұрын
No you are definitely not being harsh, XC are SHOCKING!! There is so much wrong with the franchise, its difficult to know where to start! I now drive to another area to start a journey just to avoid them, or avoid the train altogether, they are unuseable. I think they have slipped under the radar and never been held to account IMO, while the media focuses on the Northern franchise, XC keeps going from bad to worse. My main thinking is the franchise is simply too big, and have commuters travelling alongside long distance passengers. Take the East/West Midllands for example. XC is one of the very few operators that cross this border. Instead, the west midlands franchises should be extended east semi fast beyond Lichfield to include Burton, Tamworth, Derby and Nottingham. Then the XC long distance routes could run non stop from Brum all the way to Sheffield easing loads over this extremely busy section of railway. The voyager things shouldd be scrapped, they were never suitable in 2002 and are even worse now. I can't believe all this investment is happening to the London commuter rolling stock whilst these cramped, dirty diesel relics live on for another 20 odd years. Incidentally, I never saw that many HSTs on XC routes, in fact I dont think I;ve even travelled on one, its always 4 car voyagers that are full by the time they are 30 minutes into their journey, hopeless. Rant over, but as you can tell I despise this operator wiith a passion. :)
@Vanmanyo
@Vanmanyo 22 сағат бұрын
Haha rants can be a good thing! I do hope it can improve, new government, XC definitely needs change - however I think we need a new word for change, heard it too much recently 😆
@michaelbolton-a
@michaelbolton-a 23 сағат бұрын
Chiltern game the system - they achieve a low number of cancellations by running short formed trains which are totally packed. 8 or 6 car trains reduced to 2 sometimes - the interiors are threadbare, the wi-fi never workd and they are filthy.
@FormallyknownasE100
@FormallyknownasE100 23 сағат бұрын
Brilliant series. I did find the refresh to be very nice but as you say beyond that there wasn’t much else they achieved.
@berillyispog
@berillyispog Күн бұрын
i think the DFT is the main issue with privatisation
@JonBowe
@JonBowe 8 сағат бұрын
I presume there to be greasy palms on both sides of the table. The funding's don't just disappear they have to go somewhere, somebody always profits from failed franchises.
@malvinjnrn7784
@malvinjnrn7784 Күн бұрын
Virgin should be an open access company….. look at Deutsche Bahn, NS and SNCF/B
@shodan2958
@shodan2958 Күн бұрын
Interesting relationship with Virgin Trains East Coast, without it, I doubt I'd be a rail fan because without its failure we would've never got LNER, the best train operator in the country in my opinion. Service seemed okay on the few occasions I used it but I really noticed and appreciated how much more public service focused LNER are compared to VTEC and just how pleasant train travel can be as a result. My first experience on it as a university student was gone in with the mindset of "I'm probably not going to like this experience of train travel but we're going to have to live with it" then enjoying the experience, then becoming a full on fan of it as LNER made the experience of commuting back and forth from university just painless and even enjoyable.
@jay-xo9dx
@jay-xo9dx Күн бұрын
This wasn’t really virgin. Virgin only had 9% of the franchise unlike the WC where they had 51%. It was Stagecoach who ran it, they just paid to use the Virgin name for product recognition.
@Vanmanyo
@Vanmanyo Күн бұрын
Yep was far more stagecoach but calling it virgin is the correct way!
@poopoodealer8975
@poopoodealer8975 Күн бұрын
GNER is my fvavourite train franchise
@Eric_Hunt194
@Eric_Hunt194 Күн бұрын
Worst thing VTEC did was the stupid talking toilets, along witb their general "look at us, aren't we so zany!?"-type marketing. Though i always felt the Virgin brand was style over substance.
@andybbeck2043
@andybbeck2043 Күн бұрын
Great video you talk alot of sense. needs to back to network rail running the whole lot away from fat cats
@lordbrit4630
@lordbrit4630 Күн бұрын
Yay new failed franchise - here's to many more
@joecurly3637
@joecurly3637 Күн бұрын
They had brilliant first class discounts whether weekday or weekend, so it wasn't all that bad. Besides, I didn't really know any operator with that offer other than my grandfather's railway worker pass that gave him first class on all trains!
@bhuvaneshserene-blake9540
@bhuvaneshserene-blake9540 Күн бұрын
OMG the first video has a class 67 with Virgin trains east coast!?!?!? Was that in regular service?
@Vanmanyo
@Vanmanyo Күн бұрын
Nope that was diversions that Tony managed to grab - great spot from him and kudos for letting me use it!
@mindthegapplease3840
@mindthegapplease3840 Күн бұрын
It makes me laugh because it's called VTEC Which you get in a Honda VTEC Engine. (VTEC Just Kicked In Yo).
@kevanhubbard9673
@kevanhubbard9673 Күн бұрын
Branson ran out of someone else's money would be more correct.Off course nothing to do with him all the Department of Transport and Network Rails fault although he must have known about all this when he got involved.Ah but it's nothing to do with Tricky Dickie as it's Stagecoach who run it although it says Virgin on the trains .
@andrewgee5449
@andrewgee5449 2 күн бұрын
Always a brilliant video
@SiVlog1989
@SiVlog1989 2 күн бұрын
VTEC is a lesson (though whether any future government, including the newly elected, at the time of comment, Labour government will heed this remains to be seen) that in spite of certain MP's desire to maintain the franchise system, it doesn't disguise the fact that an incoming franchise can and does over promise and under deliver, resulting in the company awarded with the franchise being unable to fulfill its commitments. The answer is to let the remaining franchises run their course and not renew them, returning them to the Department of Transport
@Droidtopiateam
@Droidtopiateam 2 күн бұрын
Ok
@davidty2006
@davidty2006 Күн бұрын
The franchise system is indeed a failiure.. the open accesss operators however, because they are actual private companies are a success and there should be more of em.
@misterpwood
@misterpwood 2 күн бұрын
Briefly worked for VTEC, initially just processing delay repays. Then got put on a project to clear up over a years worth of complaints as they had 'accidentally' marked them all closed and resolved en masse.
@That_Roblox_YouTuber
@That_Roblox_YouTuber 2 күн бұрын
29 mins
@AberdonaiBrum101
@AberdonaiBrum101 2 күн бұрын
Bored in the afternoon ,Nothing to watch. I see this on homepage: ( My eyecandy ) Proud 8th commenter :>
@THlMGS
@THlMGS 2 күн бұрын
13 seconds ago
@nicholasr39
@nicholasr39 3 күн бұрын
Its interesting that Go-Ahead have won the contract to run Dartford's bus company, Fast Track. I think it is a shame that they removed Southeastern from Go-Ahead because it was so much better than British Rail and Connex. Southeastern has gone downhill really badly under public ownership. The government removed Southeastern from Go-Ahead as a punishment for keeping the money, however, it is people like me who feel this the most. Go-Ahead are now picking up bus routes and networks where they have lost rail franchises and where rival companies like Arriva have dropped out.
@DKS225
@DKS225 3 күн бұрын
Here's a history lesson for you Vanmanyo. The Highland Chieftain before 1984 was known as The Clansman and originated from London Euston. as for The Northern Lights that was originally The Aberdonian but they changed that to the latter in the early 90's.
@Vanmanyo
@Vanmanyo 3 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@Eric_Hunt194
@Eric_Hunt194 Күн бұрын
Strictly speaking the Clansman to Euston was a different service.
@Clivestravelandtrains
@Clivestravelandtrains Күн бұрын
My recollection is that there was also an Inverness to London Euston overnight service called The Royal Highlander in the 1970s, and this is shown in my 1959 Scottish Region timetable. The 1959 timetable doesn't show any named trains between Aberdeen and London apart from The Elizabethan which ran non-stop Edinburgh-London KX with a guaranteed connection from Aberdeen and Dundee, requiring a change of train at Edinburgh. (The train also had a "Ladies Retiring Room with attendant" - how times have changed!)
@yourpals2030
@yourpals2030 3 күн бұрын
Virgin livery would’ve looked great on the IETs
@Vanmanyo
@Vanmanyo 3 күн бұрын
It did on the demonstrator unit!
@EarlyAccessOFFICIAL
@EarlyAccessOFFICIAL 3 күн бұрын
im intreguiged to see next years bid, will greater anglia reign continue???
@Vanmanyo
@Vanmanyo 3 күн бұрын
Nope! Because I imagine labour will win tonight and then it'll all be nationalised!
@andrewbowen4544
@andrewbowen4544 3 күн бұрын
Wonder on the 6th July if BR will make a comeback. I totally understand why Privatisation hasn't worked on some Rail lines and why DfT needed to takeover. Yet some are running ok.
@DKS225
@DKS225 3 күн бұрын
I was thinking pretty much the same. Nationalisation rearing it's head for the first time since 1994. You only need look at Northern Rail, Scotrail, and Avanti at least.
@Vanmanyo
@Vanmanyo 3 күн бұрын
I don't think it'll be BR. Personally I think they'll keep the branding the same but just drop any private companies involvement. I sort of wish NSE or something returned!
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce 2 күн бұрын
Not, on 6th July. The plan is that when the existing contracts expire, they get taken over by the Government, much like what happened with TfW and Scotrail. 4 of them already have been renationalised, VTEC, the subject of this video, got rebranded as LNER, but South Eastern, Northern, and Transpennine were not rebranded. My guess is that Avanti West Coast will be rebranded, possibly as LMS (London, Midland and Scottish Railway), c2c I'm not sure about, but the others will keep their existing names. The open access operators don't have expiring contracts, so will probably remain private.
@andrewbowen4544
@andrewbowen4544 Күн бұрын
@@DKS225 Scotrail isn't doing too well. I think it might be a failed franchise
@DKS225
@DKS225 Күн бұрын
@@katrinabryce In a manner of speaking it's a case of history repeating itself. Cases in point LNER, GWR and Southern and if what you're saying becomes the case then it's The Big Four version 2.
@nicholasr39
@nicholasr39 4 күн бұрын
Virgin should not have lost the Cross-country or West coast main line in my opinion.
@Vanmanyo
@Vanmanyo 4 күн бұрын
But they did fail with East Coast!
@nicholasr39
@nicholasr39 4 күн бұрын
Arriva runs London Overground and Chiltern railways very well. I think Arriva was set up to fail with its Northern and Welsh franchises
@monkeboiwastaken
@monkeboiwastaken 6 күн бұрын
As a regular user of Cross Country (I mainly go from Reading to Coventry), I will say they are bad but not the worst. Privatisation as a whole was a stupid idea and should never have happened.
@CC-Cobalt-1043
@CC-Cobalt-1043 6 күн бұрын
Definitely a great company, I went on a few of their trains in 2011, great service and staff
@CC-Cobalt-1043
@CC-Cobalt-1043 6 күн бұрын
Honestly, should have just left East Coast as it was
@andrewbutler6477
@andrewbutler6477 6 күн бұрын
The xc service between Cardiff to Nottingham is awful delays or cancelled between new st and Cardiff with various excuses given 😡
@maximdelmar2694
@maximdelmar2694 6 күн бұрын
Nice video, although I do disagree with some of your points. You talk about the “old and battered mark 3s” and “dilapidated 168s” against GWR’s “bright new IETs”. Chiltern’s mark 3 interiors are absolutely wonderful, probably the most spacious and comfortable seats on the entire network, and their class 168 interiors are also fantastic. The IETs of GWR by contrast are horrible. So I for one am trying to enjoy the older fleet for as long as possible, and believe any refurbishment or replacement of rolling stock in the future can only be a negative thing.
@Vanmanyo
@Vanmanyo 6 күн бұрын
I agree they are nice, and I use them regularly, but they are becoming very old. Many things in the mk3s don't work, such as doors, plugs, armrests etc. There are carriages missing whole tables and they are getting old in general. The 168s are similar and are falling apart with their bodywork, the interiors are also getting very dirty so it's lucky they are getting a refurbishment.
@trainlover16
@trainlover16 6 күн бұрын
Definitely not a failed franchise in my opinion.