Here is a video of my flights this weekend... some success, some failure... how rocketeers learn. Thanks for advice as always kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jsimlamSnbuyook.html
@gillvision646Күн бұрын
Dr. Dave... I was wondering... the rocket I plan to make will be about 4' high with a body thickness of 2.5", the question I have is can my parachute be too big? I plan to use a totes style umbrella for the chute material... is there a formula for the parachutes relative to the bodies that is ideal? I know in the case of most rockets you have made go between a 12-18 inch parachute... I figure that the size of the umbrella is prob a bit more than that..... thank you
@REAR_rocketsКүн бұрын
Offhand I recommend a 24-30” parachute for that size of a rocket. I suggest using OpenRocket to simulate your design. It will show the performance of different sizes of parachutes.
@TigerHawk652 күн бұрын
I wish this had TTW fins.
@REAR_rockets2 күн бұрын
Me too. It seems that few of Apogee’s mid-power rockets have them.
@gillandro22 күн бұрын
Dr Dave, i have a couple of more construction questions...i am planning to make a parachute for a rocket I'm designing out of umbrella material like you did in a video... is there a ratio i need to use for the shroud lines....i.e. the lines should be 3 times the diameter of the parachute or what not.... btw I'm making a windsock out of umbrella material and a dowel rod to assess field conditions.... second question.... i see you assemble most parachute kits with shroud lines being tied to adjacent corners.... but in pre assembled parachutes they tie the shrouds two adjacent corners on the outer corners and across the middle of the chute material for the center shroud line... is there any difference in your educated opinion? Thank you
@REAR_rockets2 күн бұрын
For the parachute, I use shroud lines 1.5x the diameter. You are correct that most preassembled parachutes have a string across the middle. It’s supposed to decrease tangling a bit, but it’s also a longer string than the other two. In practice, I haven’t seen much difference.
@gillandro22 күн бұрын
@@REAR_rockets in the words of marty mcfly... you are the doc, doc
@gillandro22 күн бұрын
@@REAR_rocketsalso.... your opinion....since i was thinking of using eyelets at the corners and kevlar for the shroud lines... if i used the eyelets in the umbrella material, and used crazy glue for the kevlar knots could that work for the parachute assembly? Thanks as always.
@proob43 күн бұрын
That cable, crimping and shrink tubing is dubious at best? Why not just braided kevlar, it be lighter? Plus that whole huge elastic shock cord also. Is that really needed?
@REAR_rockets3 күн бұрын
I'll know more after I launch it. This whole recovery system is different from anything I've built before. Theoretically, the combination shock cord should be easier on the rocket as long as it doesn't burn or get tangled. I think the cable was completely superfluous, but I'll reserve judgement until after a few flights.
@Finness8944 күн бұрын
That's a very interesting rocket. Congratulations on it's construction. Can't wait to see it fly!
@mikestanley91765 күн бұрын
I just discovered your channel today. Instant subscribe. I started flying way back in the mid 70s when the biggest engine you could get was the D12-7.
@mikestanley91765 күн бұрын
When I first started the biggest engine you could get was a D12-7.
@mikestanley91765 күн бұрын
What engine does this use?
@REAR_rockets4 күн бұрын
Any 24 mm motor: C through F.
@mikestanley91765 күн бұрын
My rocketry career started with the Alpha 3. This was way back in the mid 70s. I remember having to cut each fin out of the die cast balsa sheets and having to cut the shroud lines from a single length of string. On the balsa fins I remember using sanding sealer and trying to shape each fin to a perfect airfoil shape.
@mikestanley91765 күн бұрын
I built this one in the late 70s. It was always an attention grabber. It was a great rainy day project.
@mikestanley91765 күн бұрын
The kit reminds me of the Alpha 3 but with 4 fins.. I started flying in the days of having to cut out the fins from a die cut balsa sheet and aligning the fins with a pencil line on the body tube.
@ACR40085 күн бұрын
Nice launches
@TigerHawk655 күн бұрын
NCR sells a really nice set of Fin Airfoil Assistants that work very well. If you get a chance take a look at them.
@REAR_rockets4 күн бұрын
I have two sets of them. I've found that for typical thin fins, it's just as easy to do them free-hand.
@gillandro26 күн бұрын
If i have a shock cord that snaps... is there a rule of thumb if i choose to tie a length of kevlar to the remaining cord? I know you said kevlar was 3x the overall length but not sure if adding more... or could i even tie an extra elastic shock cord where the break happened or would that be bad? Thanks as always dr Dave
@REAR_rockets6 күн бұрын
If it started with a rubber shock cord and an Estes type glue-on anchor, it's usually easiest to cut out the old cord and anchor and replace it with new elastic/rubber. Kevlar can rip through an Estes mount. Tying Kevlar onto the remains of the elastic shock cord probably will end up breaking at the elastic again.
@gillandro26 күн бұрын
@@REAR_rockets thats why i consult the Dr... thanks
@gillandro28 күн бұрын
Dr dave... crazy question... i am trying to scratch build a rocket as i said before... cant find a coupler big enough... would it work if i took a tube i wanted to use and glued more paper on to it in layers to beef it up? Or would that not be ok structurally? And if i can would that be bad to use as a baffle assembly if i have to beef it up like i want to for the coupler?
@REAR_rockets8 күн бұрын
Yes, you can use additional paper and glue to thicken couplers.
@gillandro28 күн бұрын
@@REAR_rockets thank you.
@gillandro211 күн бұрын
Dr dave if i want to make a baffle for a scratch rocket is that possible? Or if i use wadding is there a rule of thumb for how much? Thanks Sir
@REAR_rockets11 күн бұрын
Yes, you can make your own baffle from a tube coupler and two wood or heavy cardboard disks with offset holes in them. As I recall, there are instructions in the Handbook of Model Rocketry. For wadding I use a thickness of twice the body tube diameter (loosely crumpled.)
@gillandro210 күн бұрын
@@REAR_rockets but some rockets use 3 or 4 and one i built uses 7-8
@gillandro212 күн бұрын
Dr dave i watched your franken rocket video... i plan to make a model rocket using two of those long candy/bank tubes and a 3d printed nose... i am wondering is there a rule of thumb for motor mount tubes as i am designing the rocket in open rocket and not sure how big a motor to install i know once i know for sure the centering rings will design for me in a way based on the body tubes, also in a larger rocket which is better a launch lug, or a rail system?
@REAR_rockets12 күн бұрын
Start with whatever motor mount is handiest and see how it performs in OpenRocket. Adjust up or down as necessary. Rod or rail is up to what you have for a launcher. Rails are more stable but rods are much less expensive. I use both.
@gillandro213 күн бұрын
Just a question... when you make your parachutes from kits... why a pencil and not just grabbing a hole punch? May be easier.
@REAR_rockets13 күн бұрын
Unless they are highly precise and sharp, hole punches just stretch the plastic or make incomplete punches. You are welcome to try it.
@gillandro213 күн бұрын
@@REAR_rockets i trust your judgement if you say it may not work it may not... though gives an idea of getting one and dremeling the punch and testing on shroud material
@braisvinasmelin80619 күн бұрын
One question, how tall do they reach?
@REAR_rockets19 күн бұрын
The two research rockets - Madcow Adventurers - had apogees around 200 m.
@RonzRocketz20 күн бұрын
Can you set the cam focus to infinity? Makes it blurry less than 10ft but not an issue.
@REAR_rockets19 күн бұрын
Yes, but it would be out of focus on the pad.
@REAR_rockets19 күн бұрын
I may try it at the next launch, though.
@AndrewMurphy838320 күн бұрын
What cute are you using on these models
@REAR_rockets20 күн бұрын
Cute?
@AndrewMurphy838319 күн бұрын
@@REAR_rockets chute
@6527dave20 күн бұрын
Nice video work. Thanks for sharing.
@RidiculousRocketry20 күн бұрын
Some good tips.
@RidiculousRocketry20 күн бұрын
Great flights and video.
@michaelc681720 күн бұрын
Great launch. Really nice variety of rockets. Excellent videography of launches and landings. Thanks for sharing!
@brandonbentley545322 күн бұрын
Great video and heads up on some unforseen complexities with the build.
@Periwinklepearl24 күн бұрын
This helped with my son 4H project thank you👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@REAR_rockets24 күн бұрын
Glad it helped.
@user-Atamigaputer24 күн бұрын
junk
@craigbathurst879725 күн бұрын
I assume you glue the baffle inside the rocket tube? You didn't mention that in the video. My first time using a baffle.
@REAR_rockets25 күн бұрын
Either glue it inside a body tube or use it to couple two body tubes (most common).
@michaelc681725 күн бұрын
Cool, I am guessing you may be doing a launch of this on or around Father's Day.
@REAR_rockets25 күн бұрын
This evening actually.
@gillandro226 күн бұрын
dr. Dave, I am building a rocket from scrap materials from another kit, I designed it in open rocket and the simulation looks good... the only questions I have are thusly 1) with a baffle system, which I grabbed from the rocketarium chief ii kit, do I need vent holes for the rocket? 2) with the baffle system, and the fact that I am giving it a kevlar shock cord, I don't need to pack any wadding in the rocket for launching right? thanks your videos are very informative.
@REAR_rockets26 күн бұрын
No vent holes and no wadding. Good luck with the build!
@gillandro226 күн бұрын
@@REAR_rockets thank you... It will be interesting as i learned for its smaller size a b 6-4 would be too strong... open rocket said a b4-2 would work though
@gillandro227 күн бұрын
Dr Dave... what was the shock cord ratio if you replace elastic with kevlar again as i dont remember which video it was but scarcely thought it was that the kevlar needed to be 4x the elastic length. Ty
@REAR_rockets27 күн бұрын
For typical long rockets, three times the rocket’s length.
@gillandro227 күн бұрын
@@REAR_rockets thank you again love your videos.. length of completed rocket or just the body tube?
@kevintribelhorn874428 күн бұрын
Should just make the Leviathan out of the Big Daddy pieces
@bingusbobby501228 күн бұрын
Interesting intro….
@kevintribelhorn874428 күн бұрын
Yeah, no. Just get to the build video
@Youtubesucks1529 күн бұрын
Just got into rocketry with my son. We just successfully launched an Estes Alpha.
@Smugcat10129 күн бұрын
Can you find me a link for the real paper instructions for it? I lost them.
@REAR_rockets28 күн бұрын
Check on Estes web site.
@jeffg1962Ай бұрын
Your centering ring is in backwards
@gillandro2Ай бұрын
If you ever do merch should have a t shirt that says "I will do .... off camera" lol
@REAR_rocketsАй бұрын
😆
@Ryan57GarrАй бұрын
Love that pastel yellow! What paint did you use on the body and nose?
@REAR_rocketsАй бұрын
It’s just Rustoleum.
@vent_890Ай бұрын
Just ordered my first model rocket kit! excited to start building
@gillandro2Ай бұрын
Dr dave what is your thoughts on powder? Dad used to put powder in his rocket bodies to make the recovery system pop out easier? Is this a thing or a waste of time? Thanks as always
@REAR_rocketsАй бұрын
I use talcum on plastic chutes, especially in colder weather.
@gillandro2Ай бұрын
@@REAR_rockets tyvm
@6527daveАй бұрын
I’m about half way through my build. Your videos are great. Thank you for the excellent work. I have to agree with the one comment, the music during the fast forwarding could be eliminated.
@Bonsai_AIАй бұрын
Boy Scouts, anyone?
@orestesmayo-nc2hmАй бұрын
I’ve really come to appreciate Rocketarium. Excellent products.
@dogprowilhelm7630Ай бұрын
Great build video. The Estes Hi-Flyer XL deserves up powering to 29mm, through tube fins, a rail guide for minimal diameter performance, ejection baffle and add nose weight. Enjoy the conical exhaust contrail approaching the speed of sound on a budget.❤
@gillandro2Ай бұрын
One question? What size is the Kevlar shock cord? I keep buying reels of kevlar but they are too thin... thank you
@REAR_rocketsАй бұрын
The shock cords are 8 feet long each, and appear to be about 300 pound test.
@gillandro2Ай бұрын
@@REAR_rockets ty
@gillandro2Ай бұрын
Dr dave i made a fin system for applying sanding sealer you can try if you like... i took a small square of wood, about 5"x5" and glued clothes pins around the wood facing up to use as clamps for the pins... worked well for me.
@godfreycarmichaelАй бұрын
Cool rocket. I just built the Apogee TTV. It is also a medium powered rocket that has an avionics bay. But it is for timed staging. Katana Jr may be my next rocket. Thanks for the detailed assembly videos.
@REAR_rocketsАй бұрын
You’re welcome.
@scolley0616Ай бұрын
I had Estes rockets, with my brother, about 50 years ago. Brings back memories! Our Big Bertha, yes we had one, had a balsa nose cone with a screw hook to attach the chute.
@scolley0616Ай бұрын
Ours had no decals, as I recall. We painted the body a royal blue and the nose and fins a flat black.