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@Brian-S
@Brian-S 21 сағат бұрын
Would you be able to use something like ardupilot on these? Havent really seen firmware mentioned anywhere yet
@skunkworksmusicgroup
@skunkworksmusicgroup Күн бұрын
Extended stalled cobra? You started something here. If only the opposite pitch could be achieved, you will have broken the rules of attack aircraft worldwide.
@maxmeneses8311
@maxmeneses8311 2 күн бұрын
Your planes are so fucking good! I’ll be buying the plans!
@maxmeneses8311
@maxmeneses8311 2 күн бұрын
Fucking mosquito
@Sebas-lk3jv
@Sebas-lk3jv 2 күн бұрын
hello Rene, what is the best printer for printing airplane :)
@renerosentraeger
@renerosentraeger 2 күн бұрын
X1c and k1c
@maxmeneses8311
@maxmeneses8311 3 күн бұрын
You should make one with FPV. There are so many different options that you can do. I’m not an expert. But I do plan on making a little space on your planes for my 4 cameras
@renerosentraeger
@renerosentraeger 2 күн бұрын
Sounds great man.
@justinmurphy2227
@justinmurphy2227 3 күн бұрын
Thank you for this review. After having some issues with my Bambu P1S, I thought I'd be changing companies. To me though, to keep my business, it's how a company handles problems. Everyone is going to have them. So it's important to me to know that communication is going to be there as well as parts. My issue was resolved in less than 7 days and that includes getting the part. I just ordered my second P1S and my fifth and 6th A1 Mini with AMS. I just love these little things! They're so basic but fast and reliable and the quality, once you get the profile dialed in, is crazy good! Rene, I need to get one of your planes to print. I haven't stepped into the aircraft side of RC yet. Just on road racing with F1 cars and some drifting. I sent you, well your company, a couple of messages through the contact us section of your website and haven't heard back in a few weeks. Just thought I would let you know. Once again thanks for the review!
@davidaugustofc2574
@davidaugustofc2574 3 күн бұрын
I made something similar in Spaceflight Simulator, but it was a backwards reentry prototype. The Bottom of the wings was the heatshield and it would re-enter the atmosphere pointing upwards. I had loads of fun with that before an update in 2021 added engine heat damage, as the engines were fully protected by heatshields as well.
@Erikr-ex9dj
@Erikr-ex9dj 3 күн бұрын
Way cool
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch 3 күн бұрын
Thanks René 👍💪✌
@herobrudi
@herobrudi 4 күн бұрын
a su47 vtol? thats neat
@gsestream
@gsestream 4 күн бұрын
how about vtol seaplane instead, the usual term is vtol. unless you really want to stir it.
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 3 күн бұрын
Oh man, we’ve been there. Was VTOL and we corrected it as technically it does not land vertically. So now we are staying with VTO….
@gsestream
@gsestream 3 күн бұрын
@@marcphilippveenendaal4394 oh lol ok. STOL seaplane? also could you not turn vertically to land vertically?
@trailswithtyler7427
@trailswithtyler7427 4 күн бұрын
Cool! Love what you guys are doing. Btw I filled out a contact form a while back on your website asking a few questions about the JRM junior. If you get a chance to look at it that would be great. Basically asking if there’s a wiring diagram anywhere and a few other questions about the assembly process. Thanks in advance
@renerosentraeger
@renerosentraeger 3 күн бұрын
Hi, we put some assistance sketches on the download area on aerojtp.com for wiring on your rx: one servo to ail one to elevator and activate delta mix in your TX.
@trailswithtyler7427
@trailswithtyler7427 2 күн бұрын
@@renerosentraeger Thanks for the reply. I don’t know if I’m looking in the wrong place or something but i still can’t find it. It might be because im looking on my phone so i will try again tomorrow on a computer and see if i can find it
@kuraigasone
@kuraigasone 4 күн бұрын
Everytihng is look so cool hope we don't wait too much for this masterpiece
@moochasas
@moochasas 6 күн бұрын
Awesome model, slick looking...... but a question.... why not put separate servos on the rudders so you can have airbrakes..... 2 servos back to back would be ideal.....
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 5 күн бұрын
At this point we are considering weight. The top wing and engine nacelles will make the aircraft too heavy so minimising weight and keeping as much low down is a priority. We will test, trial and optimise 😉
@GabrielDeVault
@GabrielDeVault 6 күн бұрын
Super cool looking aircraft. Is the closure of the fuselage a bit abrupt for the air flow to stick?
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 5 күн бұрын
Won’t know until we try 😉
@jorbedo
@jorbedo 6 күн бұрын
Wing too low in the water, it will interfere the airflow, you will need a flat lake to takeoff. At least you need to create a minimum of ground effect.
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 6 күн бұрын
This is our hard surface landing design. Our water landing fuselage will have modified hull to deal with exactly that 😉
@haxi52
@haxi52 6 күн бұрын
Worried about prop wash over the control surfaces?
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 6 күн бұрын
Not yet 😂
@TROUROCKS
@TROUROCKS 6 күн бұрын
CG ???????
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 6 күн бұрын
We have that in check 😉
@siavashgoudarzi4056
@siavashgoudarzi4056 6 күн бұрын
This project looks very interesting. What is the purpose of upper wings?
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 6 күн бұрын
Something different 😂
@4DCResinSmoker
@4DCResinSmoker 6 күн бұрын
So how is this VTOL exactly ?
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 6 күн бұрын
When we uploaded we should have left off the “L” 😉
@4DCResinSmoker
@4DCResinSmoker 6 күн бұрын
@@marcphilippveenendaal4394 Not what i was asking... How will this vertically take off using motors that are mounted above the frame as part of the box wing? Sure while its possible to claim short take-off and landing, vertical take off doesn't appear possible with this configuration.
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 6 күн бұрын
@@4DCResinSmoker it will stand on its tail and given full throttle and some back stick 😉
@4DCResinSmoker
@4DCResinSmoker 6 күн бұрын
@@marcphilippveenendaal4394 Your going to find out that the location of the motors will not be idea for this unless you've some means to pitch the blades. Point blank, your center of mass is offset from your center of thrust, which will cause your craft to tumble end over end from a standing start. Now as for providing backstick, we'll see. Though I'm thinking it wouldn't be enough to prevent the craft from tumbling.
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 6 күн бұрын
@@4DCResinSmoker that’s the fun of an experimental - lots can be learned…
@GregoryDoan
@GregoryDoan 6 күн бұрын
I really like this model, I was just over at the website and you have not got it up over there yet. But I am really can wait for it to come to life on the printer I own. Keep up the great work you two. And be safe out there.
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 6 күн бұрын
Thanks, yes we are still developing the design. Not much longer to go. We will be posting our first flights and trials and then if the design is successful, we will finalise for purchase in our site 😉
@jthesniperarechiga3284
@jthesniperarechiga3284 6 күн бұрын
Hi, I fly FPV drones but I am slowly switching to FPV airplanes and I am really curious and this model by any chance do you try set up this RC jet into FPV set up?
@renerosentraeger
@renerosentraeger 5 күн бұрын
Yes, there is already a special fpv front section included.
@jthesniperarechiga3284
@jthesniperarechiga3284 2 күн бұрын
@@renerosentraeger perfect thank you so much. I will get the files tonight.
@michiganengineer8621
@michiganengineer8621 6 күн бұрын
Maybe it would have added too much weight to the model, but did you consider two servos for the center upper wing control surfaces? With the mixing available in modern radios you could have the outer surfaces as pure aileron and the center surfaces mixed as elevons.
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 6 күн бұрын
Weight is a big consideration and we are also going to rely on differential thrust from the 2 motors for control. We will see how this goes. Key word in this project is - EXPERIMENTAL!
@RA-gk5zg
@RA-gk5zg 6 күн бұрын
I love it. Thanks for showing us your design process.
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for your interest!
@SS-hz4jo
@SS-hz4jo 6 күн бұрын
Nice
@esneydervega5458
@esneydervega5458 7 күн бұрын
Ufffff 👏👏👏👏👏 yo quiero 🤭🤭🤭
@renerosentraeger
@renerosentraeger 5 күн бұрын
Rc-jetprint.com
@andrebenk476
@andrebenk476 7 күн бұрын
Es geht nichts über deine Su-XR Plus , aber auf dieses Projekt freue ich mich schon 😊🤙Danke für die coole Arbeit
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 6 күн бұрын
Keine Problem! Wir freuen uns auch! Kann aber sehr interessant oder problematisch werden…😬
@WernerBeroux
@WernerBeroux 7 күн бұрын
VTOL and water landing makes it an interesting plane just to take off in less common places. I'm not a fan of printing props though.
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 6 күн бұрын
It will be tailored to Vertical take off and water landings. Not sure yet how we will go with water takeoff and water landing. Also, we plan to use off the shelf performance props! No prop printing here!
@WernerBeroux
@WernerBeroux 6 күн бұрын
@@marcphilippveenendaal4394 water landing seems sufficient. I'll look out for videos to see when it's published
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 Күн бұрын
@@WernerBerouxawesome! We are curious as well to see if what we have planned works as advertised 😉
@gibstera5580
@gibstera5580 7 күн бұрын
I'm excited to see the progression. Thank you for sharing.
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for your interest
@gfabasic32
@gfabasic32 7 күн бұрын
Interesting project!
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 7 күн бұрын
We thought so too!
@user-im8yv6ne4f
@user-im8yv6ne4f 7 күн бұрын
hi...i like the design...looks a little tail heavy...can be made affordable...widen fuselage for landing gear...never know till you try... the best of luck to you...
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 5 күн бұрын
Thanks! We will have to wait and see where this takes us!
@JJ-Jerome
@JJ-Jerome 7 күн бұрын
For me, I really like corn
@JJ-Jerome
@JJ-Jerome 7 күн бұрын
Also, this is really cool😅 never seen a vtol (vertical takeoff and landing) RC plane
@wookieiam1
@wookieiam1 7 күн бұрын
You have to work into the fuselage a step so the plan can clear the suction of water on the smooth fuselage.
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 7 күн бұрын
This is our hard surface landing design. Our water landing version will have a deeper and stepped hull for better buoyancy and water clearance…
@vrosi1963
@vrosi1963 7 күн бұрын
design a v22 osprey
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 5 күн бұрын
Ahhh, OK?
@christofschafer3921
@christofschafer3921 7 күн бұрын
Nice design, can it transfered to a Waterplane.?
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 7 күн бұрын
That is our plan…
@Gando_TV
@Gando_TV 7 күн бұрын
Deutsch
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch 7 күн бұрын
This is looking really nice, out of the ordinary, that's for sure. Cheers 👍💪✌
@gafrers
@gafrers 7 күн бұрын
Amazing. Looking forward to it
@mp7986
@mp7986 7 күн бұрын
if you did any CFD simulations or stability calculations how's it performing in terms of stability? especially pitch momentum and propeller vortex influence on the wings is what i'm curious about. Also i see possible risk of rudder and upper wing control surfaces ineffectivness at high AOA, is this something you would think that a concept like this could face? Thanks and have a nice day
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 7 күн бұрын
The beauty of an experimental aircraft. CFD was done in 2018 on the main wing and not the most recent design. It will be a suck and see project. Let’s see if we can pull it off…
@mp7986
@mp7986 7 күн бұрын
@@marcphilippveenendaal4394 thanks for the quick reply, i will follow your project with curiosity!
@ricardosouza1273
@ricardosouza1273 7 күн бұрын
Awesome design, but I’m in doubt about the VTOL operation, the motor aren’t aligned with de GC, what means that will have a momentum around the transversal axis
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 7 күн бұрын
We plan for the rear control surfaces to be in full upward deflection to counter the momentum. Our test flights will demonstrate if our plans work out in reality.
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 7 күн бұрын
P.S. We should have actually called it VTO and dropped the L - 😉
@thecatofnineswords
@thecatofnineswords 8 күн бұрын
Intriguing little plane. Looking forward to seeing it evolve and fly.
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 7 күн бұрын
So are we! There may be some serious challenges to overcome, but that is the fun of a new design😉
@user-nb2ru3li8m
@user-nb2ru3li8m 8 күн бұрын
you´re genius, thanks for sharing
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for your kind words and support! Wouldn’t go as far as genius - just 2 passionate aviation enthusiasts doing what they like doing 😉
@user-dj7us7qd4k
@user-dj7us7qd4k 8 күн бұрын
Выглядит эффектно Но недостатки схемы летающее крыло его портят Увы
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 8 күн бұрын
You may be right, but we shall see. I hope you stick around for the results 👍🏻
@a.h.5413
@a.h.5413 8 күн бұрын
Looks good. In Order to keep everything dry id suggest mounting the rudder Servo in the top wing or leave it out completly and use differential throttle for easy on water steering.
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion. We opted for the internal fuselage mounted design for our “dry” first experimental version. Our plans for the water version will involve a redesigned deeper “hull” for more buoyancy and water clearance. We first need to see if my original concept actually flies 😉
@a.h.5413
@a.h.5413 7 күн бұрын
@@marcphilippveenendaal4394 everything with enugh controlled thrust flies. Even a brick 😁
@alexanderscholz8855
@alexanderscholz8855 8 күн бұрын
Uhhhh sexy!!!
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 8 күн бұрын
We think so too 😂
@riccardo1796
@riccardo1796 8 күн бұрын
what servos do you use? they look so tiny, i always have trouble hiding 9g servos in ways that don't ruin the design
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 8 күн бұрын
The servos look so tiny because the aircraft is so big 😂. You’ll need to ask Rene about the RC side of things 😂. I’m just the CAD and design guy…😂
@tetronaut88
@tetronaut88 8 күн бұрын
this looks epic
@marcphilippveenendaal4394
@marcphilippveenendaal4394 8 күн бұрын
Thanks! We are crossing our fingers she flies like we expect 😬
@jorgennorberg7113
@jorgennorberg7113 9 күн бұрын
The music is really loud and annoying.
@gv100_blitz
@gv100_blitz 9 күн бұрын
Check out Rene rossentragers 3d printed plane videos, super in depth breakdown of the best ways to save weight and preserve rigidity