If Rinoa is Ultimecia, why do they have different accent? Like in sentences, Ultimecia replaces the hard “c” with “k” like “kurse, lokusts, akross, kompression, krusade” while Rinoa’s spelling of words are correct.
@finalfantasytheory2 күн бұрын
That was an American addition in translation. The Japanese she isn't russian lol. Look at the dissadia games, no russian
@Luzitanium5 күн бұрын
what if Ultimecia is the daughter of Rinoa and Squall in the Future??
@finalfantasytheory5 күн бұрын
@@Luzitanium plausible. Looks like rinoa and has connection to griever
@ArrosRaikou3 сағат бұрын
This was my head canon as a child
@flamingbird097 күн бұрын
OMG I'LL WAIT FOR THE PREMIERE LATER TONIGHT! ACKKK I love your theory vids and I'm so invested for it!
@finalfantasytheory6 күн бұрын
Glad you like the videos!!!
@finalfantasytheory7 күн бұрын
New video part for this one comes out tomorrow!!! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gLF0abigm6fPn2w.htmlsi=nYQEWuT45_IHvEeX
@mrmosty516710 күн бұрын
I've heard this theory before but love your simple explanation of it. Always wondered though...is it Ulti-MESS-ia or Ulti-MEESH-a? I like the second because it rolls off the tongue better
@finalfantasytheory4 күн бұрын
I basically summed up the theory. Since it was made before me, I didn't want to go super detailed as if it were my own theory. And the OG dissadia goes by ulti-meesh-a
@user-nd9nm4kb4g10 күн бұрын
Square officially stated that Rinoa and Ultimecia are not the same person.
@finalfantasytheory4 күн бұрын
And?
@user-nd9nm4kb4g3 күн бұрын
@@finalfantasytheory "Enjoy the video and leave your comments below!"
@MMCV96310 күн бұрын
Dont see the resemblance between the two personnaly.
@joer396311 күн бұрын
I assumed she created a perpetual loop. As long as everything repeats itself infinitely, she would attain immortality.
@flamingbird0912 күн бұрын
Bruh what have you been cooking? Any new theories?
@finalfantasytheory7 күн бұрын
New theory out tomorrow! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gLF0abigm6fPn2w.htmlsi=nYQEWuT45_IHvEeX
@Butschrick12 күн бұрын
I used to call the dog of Riona Fart.
@lukasbocek434418 күн бұрын
This video was beyond amazing! Thank you for it. FF VIII was my first FF and I played it like 15 times between 1999 and 2003. I loved it so much. Getting to know all these new pieces of information is just so exciting. Thank you again for all the work you put into making the video 💛
@finalfantasytheory18 күн бұрын
@@lukasbocek4344 I'm glad you liked it!!! Check out the ultimecia is the real winner video!
@felldoh927119 күн бұрын
This is brilliant!
@redmage77719 күн бұрын
One thing I Noticed, (And Never heard Mentioned) is Ultimecia pre-battle speech she says "SeeD" six times, once for each of her opponents, Including Rinoa. It looks like she is counting all the SeeD in the crowd before her and sees Rinoa as just another SeeD.
@finalfantasytheory4 күн бұрын
Possible. Possible ultimecia forgot she was rinoa. Sadly the creators didn't flesh her out enough and we fans had to fill in the gaps ourselves
@Dragoon-ob3mg19 күн бұрын
Wouldn't killing Edea break the time loop ?
@finalfantasytheory4 күн бұрын
Maybe. She could also just pass the powers to another. In truth, Edeas death would likely end garden and seed which would make Ultimecia win.
@alimansour865019 күн бұрын
Come back man good videos
@finalfantasytheory15 күн бұрын
I just finished my script for a video and will be doing recording today
@wej0w21 күн бұрын
I think you are somewhat right, and maybe its also a bit of a draw. I was thinking you could also see it that she simply has achieved her goal to rule time when you go to her castle this is already in another time dimension or something, couldnt it simply be that this is what she is ruling. And because of the seed getting there she simply resets the loop because she will loose to the seed. But if she compresses time she keeps the loop going that causes squall to start the whole loop again causing her to be ruler of her own dimension the whole game until the point you reach her.
@Joe_33426 күн бұрын
Ultimecia's must have had her power for a long tme because she grew black wings. You know how Adel's body was corrupted from containing the sorceress magic for too long.
@Joe_33426 күн бұрын
There is always some higher power in these FF games. I really thought Kefka was corrupted because the Magic infused into him was becoming sentient through him becoming what he did in the final battle...
@S1EEPLES529 күн бұрын
You uhh saying something? I was uhh distracted by the thumbnail.
@invisi-bullexploration2374Ай бұрын
I don't think she's the winner. I think there was something incredibly dark and tragic hinted at during her dialogue at the later part during her final form. She wanted to know everything about the past, present and future. As she gained that knowledge she *also* gained the knowledge of how things were going to end up and that she had made a huge mistake she'd pay for forever. She realized she was going to lose. And she realized she was going to go around and around time forever. In other words, she was begging Squall: "Think... About your childhood..." (Please kill me before I reach her this time!) But Squall, the party and even the player can't understand. This is why Squall appears briefly to witness Ultimecia pass on the curse. Ultimecia used the last of her power to take Squall there on purpose to strike her down. So I interpreted her final line of "Can't... Die... Yet." as her horror at realizing this didn't work. It didn't work all the other times and it won't work now. The Sorceress of time will spend an eternity of doing time in time itself. It is a Jojo villain fate for her!
@invisi-bullexploration2374Ай бұрын
It's also even darker when you realized she may have killed every other human besides herself in the future tense. The fact that she fails to stop her horrific fate means as she dies so does humanity. Humans have an expiration date and there is nothing that can stop that. It's 'time locked'.
@rgbcraftsАй бұрын
Hyne is present in FFIII also. It's probably the original one and the same mentioned in FFVIII. Look at FFIII overworld map and compare it to FFVIII overworld map. The Centra continent is almost the same.
@lolololol7573Ай бұрын
I like this. It's not an unlikely theory either as it's pretty clear there's plenty of overlap in the Final Fantasy games. Even basic concepts like the Lifestream and chocobo's, so why not this either? It'd actually be really interesting to expand on it like that. Great video.
@JAY-jl7jxАй бұрын
i believe Ultimacia = the future Renoa i knew it's not ture BTW but if it's real FF8 is masterpiece for me
@peropero2208Ай бұрын
I wish I could just believe some theories without knowing that they got debunked
@CesarD3212 ай бұрын
Cloud isn’t gay even though you want him to be
@finalfantasytheory2 ай бұрын
His feelings for aeirith are based off of cloud absorbing Zack's identity. Never real. He shows no interest in game towards tifa after his childhood
@luiscruz32612 ай бұрын
There is no connection or evidence to imply this.
@finalfantasytheory2 ай бұрын
There is actually a lot of evidence
@patrickt497 күн бұрын
Yoshiniro Kitase already said they're not the same person.
@smokythecameraman2 ай бұрын
ultimecia and rinoa not beine the same person is what eventually makes ff8's story kinda stupid and the whole naming greivor thing completely pointless. i still don't know why they wouldn't have jumped on that despite it not being their intentions - it adds something interesting to a ff most people dislike
@IamtheMan11112 ай бұрын
Supposed that's true if ultimecia is first rinoa in that timeline about squall died on space. Then the question is, why is they're going to space in the first place? The reason is rinoa was unconsciousness so squall take her into space to meet ellone and then finding out she was possessed by ultimecia. If it's true, then how ultimecia were existed in first place?
@fearwhotv2 ай бұрын
I remember when I first heard this speech plus the music I was so amped tf up
@ultracritical29972 ай бұрын
People who waste their time in these theories is just too stupid for this world...
@kingoftheorient17 күн бұрын
And yet, here you are..
@dododimitrov96572 ай бұрын
Also in Square pvp game Ultimicia has Rinoas weapon. Devs gave us so many hits, which is amazing. Love story telling which opens your imagination.
@lloydnorval19893 ай бұрын
I wish Sapphire was made a more powerful Weapon, even as a kid i was disappointed it wasnt a playable boss fight lol
@lloydnorval19893 ай бұрын
And Ruby and emerald were so damn frustrating.
@finalfantasytheory4 күн бұрын
Sapphire going down like a punk was annoying. Would be cool if they made sapphire more interesting in the final game. I just hope all of the weapons are in the game. I'm nervous considering how much is left in the story for the final game. If it's a remake, way too much to cover in 1 game at the way they are making the games. If they just branch off like crazy, they are going to piss people off. Thinks I expect in the final installment: all the weapons, knights of the round, underwater exploration, the space stuff, a chapter playing as a Rufus. They've built him up as an actual character vs the original so I want to get a play as him
@lloydnorval19893 ай бұрын
Cloud and Loghtning are siblings ;) just kidding haha but I've heard they modelled Remake Cloud's face on Lightning's face, and they're both named after aspects of the weather ;)
@rpgrullz3 ай бұрын
The creators can debunk whatever they want, Rinoa is Ultimecia.
@Luzitanium5 күн бұрын
or her daughter
@user-pw4ue5rv1v3 ай бұрын
Ultimecia is actually God and Rinoa is God's child Gian ✌
@James-og6cx3 ай бұрын
Sephiroth literally killed a Weapon with two hits in FF7 Rebirth.
@finalfantasytheory3 ай бұрын
And this video was made for OG game soooo
@Drako2k03 ай бұрын
Seymour wasn’t dead until Yuna and her guardians killed him at the temple of Macalania. After that event Seymour was then an unsent. This was very clearly shown and explained.
@finalfantasytheory3 ай бұрын
except that his mother Anima is a final aeon and the usage of a final aeon kills the summoner once they call it. As can be seen with Auron, an unsent can age. Logically Seymour is dead before he is "killed" by Yuna and company at Macalania Temple.
@Drako2k03 ай бұрын
@@finalfantasytheory that doesn’t matter. You can theorize all you want. However, it was Yuna and her party that killed Seymour. He was alive before that. This was shown, and explained.
@Drako2k03 ай бұрын
@@finalfantasytheory also it was clearly explained that it was using the final aeon in the battle with sin that results in the summoner’s death. Seymour never battled Sin with Anima.
@finalfantasytheory3 ай бұрын
@@Drako2k0 no it was clearly explained the act of summoning the final aeon killed the summoner. That is why summoners still needed guardians to go and fight sin. Recall Jecht telling Auron that he needs to guard Braska so he can call him for the final fight. He doesn't need auron if all he has to do is summon a final aeon to travel with him to sin if we go with what you're saying.
@finalfantasytheory3 ай бұрын
@@Drako2k0 really? Was Seymour on Oprah? Did he talk about the exact moment he died? No. My theory is plausible, all that matters
@Blumoon_vii3 ай бұрын
She's Rinoa
@paulogeracao6833 ай бұрын
In Ultimecia's last form, you see her real body hanging from another form. My theory is that the other form is the original essence of Sorceress, Hein. Its such a mysterious entity, named throughout all of the game that it makes no sense to be forgotten. As ULtimecia gather the powers of all the Sorceress she becomes the true vessel of Hein, all its power finally joined in one place in time. So when it is defeated Hein just sends Ultimecia back in time again and again hoping that something will change... Elone may be part of Hein herself, being able to send cousciousness back in time, not being a Sorceress seems strange, it looks like a midpoint failsafe for her to able to control a huge extent of time. Jusy my 2 pennies here lol
@user-cv6rg7wd6n3 ай бұрын
Imagine if Sephiroth got defeated by the house (the one you fight in the slums in Midgar).
@finalfantasytheory15 күн бұрын
If Sephiroth got defeated by that, thats a drop the mic moment and walk away lol
@yutiansongan40164 ай бұрын
is the same with Young xehanort finally becomes the Old xehanort we knew .. and then Ansem come into play..
@TheGrizzlo5034 ай бұрын
Explaining literally anything about Jenova makes her so much less interesting… the whole point is she’s an unknowable eldritch horror from the cosmos. That’s the whole point of the genre we call Lovecraftian horror. Taking ANYTHING as “evidence” of where Jenova comes from is completely missing the point. Even professor Gast made an error classifying her as an Ancient. And when the smartest people in the game’s lore are making mistakes, that’s the game telling you it’s something beyond knowing. You’re not supposed to know what she is.
@finalfantasytheory4 ай бұрын
🥱 do you look for theory videos and troll like this everywhere?
@kingoftheorient17 күн бұрын
L take
@summerfire47754 ай бұрын
I was like “damn do I have to kill her? She got a hell of a tattooed body…”
@samk3lly4 ай бұрын
So like a new game+, eh? Thats an interesting thought.
@dannyleo57874 ай бұрын
You sold me on the theory, it makes sense that the emperor would do this as he is obsessed with possesing everything. It also would showcase that gilgamesh despite not knowing which dimension he goes to isn't one not traversed. Though he may lose his evil self to ultimecia in the timeloop for a time, their are numerous ways to gain new found powers across the infinite that is final fantasy, some worlds like 15 and 12 wouldn't suit his needs but would still observe to learn their ways to better hone his already brilliant mind. While worlds like 6 and 7 peak his interests that spring new inspirations. Actually... in 13-3 with bhunevelza he holds those exact same characteristics as mateaus before being expunged from the creation of the new world. That may actually be where his his light hearted side went as a god of salvation
@finalfantasytheory4 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!!! I beat 2 a few months ago when they released the remasters. I was hoping it would feature the duel fight with the light and dark side but I guess they didn't want to add that into the remaster like they did with the DS release
@barbarianstrong86874 ай бұрын
In the original Japanese version and certain translations , Ultimecia states that she is going to probe their minds and use their fears to destroy them. Hence Griever. There's no evidence that Griever is a real GF.
@finalfantasytheory4 ай бұрын
i mentioned that. but i based it off the english translation.
@realmonsterhunterking4 ай бұрын
I got sent this video for the video it's a good theory just one problem it's stated in the diary in the shinra mansion that sephiroth reads that the scientists named her jenova and that aeriths real mom had the knowledge that jenova was bad and if my memory serves it's stated as soon as she landed on that planet the ancients knew she was evil and tried to stop her
@kingoftheorient17 күн бұрын
Really. "she landed on that planet' would break this theory instantly, if that's really in the book
@mariewilliams35244 ай бұрын
Hey man I love you video but I got one what is Sephora's with claus father
@mariewilliams35244 ай бұрын
Hey here's a good story what is Sephora was a good guy but adopted clown