I feel like this video (speciallly the title) was made just for me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I always end up screaming all over the house, screaming and cursing, all to just end up going back to my bench and sitting there silently for 10 freaking minutes, staring at the watch and re-thinking my decisions in life 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@watchout92133 күн бұрын
Hahahaha!!!!!
@wargamingrefugee906516 күн бұрын
Your ending tag-line made me chuckle. Thanks! :-)
@watchout921316 күн бұрын
😁
@GentlemensWatchServices16 күн бұрын
Great video and very real. I Feel your pain. The way I massively reduced my pinging and breaking stuff activity is to stop trying to achieve anything, don't have an aim. The fiddling around with the spring so that nothing pings is the only thing I'm doing, the fact that at some point it drops into position is a side effect....hope that makes sense, it worked for me. As soon as I start thinking about needing to get something done I take a break.
@watchout921316 күн бұрын
Thanks for that, I really appreciate it. Unfortunately filming things self-imposes some get-it-done-itus, because I'm always thinking "are all the cameras in focus?", "are they still recording?", "how much space is left on the SD Card?" - it prevents me from being 100% focussed on the task at hand - but its kind of hard to do KZfaq without filming, right? Anyway, I press on. I've had the watch on my wrist for a few days, and while it has low amplitude, and does occasionally stop, for the most part it runs well and is keeping good time.
@michaelfonseka765716 күн бұрын
Stevie, welcome back mate, was looking forward to a video as an indication ure all moved in and in some sort of normality. OK, I see some comments on small bits, tweezers technique, jewel oiling.....well, in my humble opinion, dressing your tweezers saves those little bits from being launched and going into the black hole. For me, I make sure my tweezers points are true and sharp, one can use a little bit, but not so course sand paper or a fine file. The main area would be the inside where one would grab things with, this I also use some sand paper to "rough up the inside grabbing area" of the instrument,this assures slipping when picking up parts. As for teweezer technique, that can only be learnt personally and with daily use of the tweezers, noting mentally the amount of pressure needed to be exerted on your pair of tweezers to pick things up. This comes in time and experience. I hope this helps. Thanks for the video mate. Mike
@watchout921316 күн бұрын
Thanks mate!
@michaelfonseka765716 күн бұрын
@watchout9213 mate, I see you are nearly at 1 thousand subscribers. Can't wait to see.Great mate.❤
@yesterdayschild141816 күн бұрын
Nice work, Steve. Like me, the more you work on movements the better your skills become. I'm just getting to grips with those pesky cap jewels and oiling them. It's spooky but only the other night I was thinking I haven't seen a video from you for quite a while so welcome back. The nice thing about this hobby is there's no rush as life can get in the way sometimes.
@watchout921316 күн бұрын
Thanks so much - yeah, I moved house which was a nightmare, and all sorts of other things going on. Not really sure what I will do next. I have got the other 66A movement, and I could rebuild that just to see if it runs any better. As I mentioned I also want to learn how to replate a case, but will need to obtain chemicals, and especially for Gold plating, that can be pricey. The problem with practising on those cap jewels, is that once the jewel flies away, its gone forever. Maybe I should buy a box of 100 jewels just to practise motor skills with!
@watchout921316 күн бұрын
I just bought an assortment of cap jewels on ebay!
@yesterdayschild141816 күн бұрын
@@watchout9213 Let us know how you get on with those, I've heard they can be a mixed bag and finding the right one can be a nightmare. I'm using an old movement to practice oiling the jewels and I'm feeling pretty confident handling them now, a decent set of twizzles makes all the difference. Appling the oil is a different kettle of fish as I'm in two minds to continue with the auto oiler or go manual. I find the auto oiler quiet hard to get the hang of but as they say "Practice makes perfect" 👍
@gggvgg430216 күн бұрын
Watch out! Love this… more please Stephen.
@mcurtis91817 күн бұрын
I really appreciate the realtime teardown.
@watchout921317 күн бұрын
Thanks for Watching!
@grimm-123 күн бұрын
Check out a video I just uploaded "DIY Watch Press". Worked great for me.
@saisamayseva8712Ай бұрын
Good beginning!! Dismantle and assemble a hundred times of this movt and you will gain speed.All the best.
@benoitcerrinaАй бұрын
Regarding putting the parts together. I am also a beginner and doing the same. However I can’t see how even with experience it will be easy to keep track of which screw goes where. Each movement seems to have its idiosyncrasies about that. So I would say that keeping screws grouped with what they screw in is likely a good practice in general
@watchout9213Ай бұрын
I've only done half a dozen movements, but I'm pretty sure I would be able to work it out pretty easily. The biggest risk is two screws that are the same thread but different length. I haven't had a movement with that yet, but some do. That's why its important to keep a close eye on the screws when disassembling. Most of the time the wrong screw just will not fit into the wrong place. Watch movements are for the most part so finely toleranced, that the right screw will just want to go into the right place - if that makes any sense. It will be pretty obvious pretty quickly if it isn't right. Also, after a while you know that most watches will have at the very least: Balance screw Pallet Fork screw Dial screws (I usually leave this in the mainplate) sometimes mounting ring screws to secure the movement in the holder (I usually leave these in place) Train bridge screws (usually 3 or 4, and they are usually the same) Barrel bridge screws Ratchet screw (big head) Crown wheel screw (big head, usually reverse threat, with the thread cut off at the bottom so it doesn't foul the stem) Setting lever screw (it will be different from all the others, newer watches often don't use a screw but a post that sits in the mainplate) There is usually a cover plate on the dial side that over the top of the yoke. Usually two screws that are fairly small There may be a screw as part of the yoke spring mechanism depending on manufacturer If the watch has centre seconds sweep, there will either be an additional bridge holding the fourth wheel above the centre wheel. Usually just 1 screw. Otherwise the fourth wheel will be offset, and there will be a small bridge with an intermediate wheel to connect the fourth wheel to a pinion going through the centre wheel driving the seconds hand. There will be some screws holding this intermediate arrangement in place. So the point is that it doesn't take that long to be able to identify what everything is for, and thereby where the screws go. I learned all this just by working on a few watches. The point is to look very carefully when disassembling. And even though filming it is a real pain, sometimes it can save your life when you need to go back and review the footage to see how something goes back together. Good luck, and enjoy!
@benoitcerrinaАй бұрын
@@watchout9213 I hope for my sake you are right. My second practice movement is a 2650g. A pretty ugly and very cheap skeletonized movement which I chose because I could have a pocket watch with it in it delivered by Amazon one the same day (Sunday) for 27$. And the click screw, ratchet wheel screw and crown wheel screw look the same even under the microscope. Obviously the crown wheel one is reverse threaded and the other two may actually be identical. But in doubt I keep them separate and next to their respective part. Granted it may be different in more “respectable” movements (and I am not ditching this one because it is Chinese. I think the st36 is beautiful and very well made but that 2650 really feel bad.
@KTMvlog4093Ай бұрын
Super
@JustANobody9757Ай бұрын
I’ve watched dozens of KZfaq videos and I’m just about to start my watchmaker journey. Your video was so instructive and inspiring. Knowing I’m going to make mistakes along the way doesn’t seem so daunting now. Thanks and I look forward to seeing more.
@watchout9213Ай бұрын
Can you believe this was filmed on my iPhone and the work done through a maggy lamp. Now I have a microscope and proper cameras. You might like to check out some of my later videos. Thanks for Watching.
@TerryMurrayTalksАй бұрын
Great video, nice careful, steady style. Hoping to undertake my first teardown and rebuild soon on a Seagul ST36.
@watchout9213Ай бұрын
Awesome - Good luck!
@tmahan1234Ай бұрын
Great Job, Mate
@TerryMurrayTalksАй бұрын
Thanks for the video, nicely documented (video wise), and narrated with a calm voice. Hoping to do my first teardown and build soon.
@benoitcerrinaАй бұрын
Discovering your channel as I am starting on the same hobby. And my st36 is arriving in a couple days. It is nice to see video of someone who is not actually an expert
@benoitcerrinaАй бұрын
Well the movement arrived and I broke the settings lever screw in the settings lever as my first operation (when trying to remove the crown). The rest of the disassembly went better. Probably slightly bent the hairspring though. I have just started reassembly.
@beogeekАй бұрын
I purchased a AmScope and I can say it is manufactured in the same factory. The only difference between amscope and these "knock-offs" is branding and quality control. But if you go with a knock-off it will be 99% the same, same optics, same shell same everything. AmScope is more expensive and I only went with it is because the shipping was cheaper.
@credibility63Ай бұрын
That mainspring, wouldn't it be easier just to squirt wd40 in there 😂
@d00d00brownАй бұрын
GREAT video! as someone beginning this hobby your channel has been extremely educational for me, and your words very comforting regarding learning
@watchout9213Ай бұрын
Thanks so much for Watching.
@SnifterRouxАй бұрын
How is it holding up? have you had any issues since this video? Would you buy again?
@watchout9213Ай бұрын
It's all working fine - no problems at all. Yes, would buy again.
@wargamingrefugee90652 ай бұрын
I truly appreciate your sharing your journey and showing what you do warts and all.
@watchout92132 ай бұрын
You're welcome. Thanks for coming along with me. I got some more Seikos so I'll need to get stuck into those.
@curiousassortment2 ай бұрын
At 1:21:32 you tweeked the little fork under the balance. I'm gonna try that - maybe that's why my movement stopped when I screwed down the plate.
@Seftdelmer2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I followed and managed to disassemble and re-assemble. :)
@curiousassortment2 ай бұрын
Very instructive video. My problem: the more I secure the screw, the slower the wheel turns, then stops. I have visually inspected it; the two feet under balance bridge are in place, the wheels at first are turning, so all seems right. I never screw it down overly tight, just enough. Wondering if you'd know why this would be happening. Thanks.
@watchout92132 ай бұрын
It certainly isn't correct. You'll just need to keep on pressing on to work out what the problem is I'm afraid.
@curiousassortment2 ай бұрын
@@watchout9213 Thanks for your reply.
@watchout92132 ай бұрын
@@curiousassortment You could check for end shake - the pivots should be able to move up and down - have you taken the jewels out - is it possible they have been put back in incorrectly or with the cap stone upside down?
@curiousassortment2 ай бұрын
@@watchout9213 I'm new to this so I'm not sure about some terms. By "pivots" I assume you mean the two legs under the top plate of the balance. Not sure what you mean when you say I have taken the jewels out - I only removed the balance wheel assembly - one removal. Also I dropped the thing once, so something might have fallen out. Cap stone?- not sure. I have the feeling I need a decent digital microscope to better examine what I am doing. Thanks again for your reply!
@watchout92132 ай бұрын
@@curiousassortment I suggest watching LOTS of videos, and reading some articles - this will help you with the terminology - an then its just practice practice practice - I still have a very long way to go myself before I am anywhere near competent.
@user-rq9po2zv4k2 ай бұрын
Дякую вам за працю 😊
@robertlogan76912 ай бұрын
I am learning on the exact same movement. I'm so glad you posted this. My spring went flying also when trying to remove the center arbor. I didn't take a picture and could not remember which way the spring wound or even how to start hand winding a spring. Awesome!
@watchout92132 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@JosephYudin2 ай бұрын
There’s a seller on eBay who 3D prints mainspring winders. They work great and are inexpensive.
@user-rq9po2zv4k2 ай бұрын
Цікаво,який состав розчину для миття шестерні
@user-rq9po2zv4k2 ай бұрын
Клас 😊❤
@cosymoon3 ай бұрын
Awesome channel! Just bought my first practice movement and I will see how it goes :D Really enjoy those videos.
@watchout92133 ай бұрын
Thanks! Another Seiko turned up today, so we'll see if I have any better luck with it.
@rubinsteinway3 ай бұрын
Is there a way to get in touch with you about my ST36? On mine there is an extra part that appears to be above the balance wheel. I don't know whether to remove it first. I'd like to send a photo. Thanks.
@watchout92133 ай бұрын
Go to my other channel, Audio Nautica - there's an email address there you can use. www.youtube.com/@audionautica6843
@rubinsteinway3 ай бұрын
I went there, I don't see any email addy. @@watchout9213
@TheLongboardingParty3 ай бұрын
followed this video in its entirety as a guide to assemble my ST36. it was my first time assembling a movement. thanks for the video!
@watchout92133 ай бұрын
Thanks for Watching!
@XJ2903 ай бұрын
I’m just starting out my near full time journey into watch repair. Hope your journey is going well friend.
@watchout92133 ай бұрын
Thanks for Watching - all the best.
@TheJaniebabe3 ай бұрын
Hi Steven, just a random question, I have a seiko travel alarm clock, in a case. There is a, well looks like some sort of adjustment screw with a double ended arrow pointing to a plus and a minus, what is that for? I have seen the same sort of thing on alarm clocks you have worked on. Hold the phone, I went back to one of your earlier videos and I may have answered my own question, but can you confirm, is it to adjust if the clock is running too fast or slow? Mine is running slow so do I move the screw to the + sign?
@watchout92133 ай бұрын
Most probably you are correct. Move towards the + sign to make it run faster.
@Van_Der_Lay_Industries3 ай бұрын
Love your work. I feel your pain. I've just started my first tear down and rebuild. Picked up so many pieces off the floor, but getting a bit better every time I work on it.
@watchout92133 ай бұрын
Yep - the only way to learn is by doing.
@GentlemensWatchServices3 ай бұрын
You’re well on your way, and great work on the video! Top tip is to put the setting lever in as the very first part. I had countless disasters when I used to leave it towards the end.
@watchout92133 ай бұрын
Sure thing - thanks for Watching!
@alexandregb5663 ай бұрын
I appreciate your decision to record your progress in this hobby. I am going to plan on starting on it as well.
@watchout92133 ай бұрын
Good luck! Thanks for Watching.
@drkujavec4 ай бұрын
I am getting good results by holding the piece right in the center with rodico, which makes it very easy to place it completely vertical. Once in place, I tap lightly with a toothpick to separate the rodico.
@Alejosales4 ай бұрын
lol loved the title. 😂
@alexandregb5664 ай бұрын
"I wanna know why on other people's channels the pivots just go straight into the holes!" I guess they threaten the watch 😂.
@watchout92134 ай бұрын
Now there's an idea, I'll give it a go!
@ATC42334 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@watchout92134 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, I really appreciate it!
@jonrutherford68524 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@watchout92134 ай бұрын
Oh wow, my very first Super Thanks ever! Thank you so much, you've made my day.
@jonrutherford68524 ай бұрын
At 48:44 -- "The jewel can't go anywhere." This brought a (sympathetic) chuckle. ;-) Very nice video and I like your level-headed manner throughout. You're not hesitant to admit there's still a lot to learn, and that's so refreshing in today's climate of instant know-it-all-ness. I've noticed the same realistic outlook in a number of watch-repair presenters, and am glad of it. Subscribed! Thanks.
@watchout92134 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the sub - yeah, the world doesn't need any more know-it-alls. I'm not sure where this hobby will take me, but as long as it stays fun I'll keep pressing on.
@onlyvintagewatches4 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nriXhsSirbfddac.html too much oil. Also it is apparent that the plate holding it is a bit bent, hence the rubbing.
@watchout92134 ай бұрын
Didn't notice the bend, but yeah, that rubbing is definitely not right. However when I removed the plate and minute wheel the amplitude did not improve. I suspect there are a number of things wrong with this movement.
@andyyoung32334 ай бұрын
Hi I'm a watch tinkerer to sir, is it because of the old mainspring? also use grease on spring and a smear of oil on the sides of barrel but very good video mate.
@watchout92134 ай бұрын
It could be - you're not the first to suggest so. I'm just not prepared to put any more effort into this movement.
@tweetjacker4 ай бұрын
Great video! I love the real time approach as it shows that its not as easy as you think its going to be (all my 10 min tasks take at least an hour!). I know you mentioned that the ST3600 is your test movement, but have you tried casing it yet with a dial and putting the stem back in? I have been working on an ST3600 and each time I go to finish it with the stem going back in, after casing it, the stem won't go in past the setting position. I actually broke a stem initially trying to use more pressure. By removing everything and trying the stem at each step I have realised that once I add the case clamps and tighten one side, that is the point that the stem refused to go in properly. I have checked the alignment of the movement to make sure the stem is perfectly aligned at 3 o'clock position, but I assume the tightening of the clamps is what is throwing out the alignment front to back. I initially thought the yoke or setting lever may have jumped out of position but these look fine on dismantling again. Would be interested to see if you (or anyone else) has seen similar issues with this movement.
@watchout92134 ай бұрын
Sorry, It doesn't have a case, so I have not cased it. Thanks for Watching.
@michaelfonseka76574 ай бұрын
Great video mate, been trying to watch it but no signal,was overseas. Keep it up.
@watchout92134 ай бұрын
Thanks mate.
@Yakena14 ай бұрын
I just watched most of your microscope video, and I was wondering during the movement assemble and tear downs how much do you use the microscope for the actual work? Thanks!
@watchout92134 ай бұрын
Yes, I do most of my work through the microscope - many people don't, but each to their own.
@MrTech8004 ай бұрын
way too much oil in the spring barrel. Clean it out and try again.
@johnhannon4 ай бұрын
Good work on the movement! Some of those Ebay watches are really beat up. I sometimes use a small fiberglass tipped pen to remove rust and dried gunk on some of the keyless parts. A sharpened 2mm piece of pegwood is also good for cleaning without scratching - one side a point and the other shaped as a flat screwdriver. Those Seiko diashock springs are very tricky.
@watchout92134 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for Watching!
@peterr13424 ай бұрын
i've been playing with these types of movements for a while now and apon watching an elderly watchmakers vid on the balance staff found out that you need to take the hair spring off , put the balance in a lathe and polish those points like a mirror , fine emery then metal polish . The amplitude will be hugely improved and the clock will keep exceptional time for the type that it is . have done this to clocks i have already serviced and the difference is amazing .
@watchout92134 ай бұрын
I'm sure you're right - but it won't fix a broken hairspring which is what was wrong with this clock.
@peterr13424 ай бұрын
No didnt think it would but when i saw the replacement balance staff dull ends it prompted me to comment @@watchout9213