“Turns out I’m on messmer’s side” I’m with you

Midra was also tortured by the Hornsent. The sword going through his spine is a form of torture they used for the worst of criminals.

Honestly, they should have kept the lore basically the same for radahn, but replace him with Godwyn. Godwyn already had ties to miquella and it would have just fit much better.

you missed 17:04

for rellana lore, a friend suggested to me, that the blue dancer talisman mentions her as melanias teacher.

Romina should be together with putrescent knight in the tier list

Miquella is not evil, that's what makes him terrifying as well as fascinating, he doesn't have a shred of bad intentions in him, just a really crooked moral sense

Completely unhinged madness giving Rellana a lower tier than the Scadu Flower avatar.

3:29 this one is an parry mushroom duh😎

First thing I hear is that Gaius doesn't have any important lore? Dislike and I'm outta here

Gaius was actually surprisingly interesting for me. If you explore the area after killing him, you'll find a random albinauric archer (the kind in Consecrated Snowfields) who drops some footwear item of Gaius's that states he's actually an albinauric too

Love how the entire plot can be boiled down to Metyr playing telephone with the Greater Will and messing up REAL BAD

CUUURSSSEEE YOU BAAAYYLEEEE

Matyr should be way above. Her lore is a plot twist. The entire golden order is based on a lie. The two fingers never had communication to the greater will.

Honestly, Rellanna would have been infinitely improved if her name was Renna. Ranni using her aunt's name as a cover and her Rise to hide her portal would very much check out. Edit: In terms of Romina, the remembrance mentions that the butterflies were masterless. It's unlikely that she was the one sealed, but instead is almost like Metyr to the Greater Will. A communication point between the world and something sealed or far away. Its possible that her becoming a Saint of Rot is what allowed the Rot God to create an Empyrean of its own. But those are only my thoughts.

2 things abt midra - The torch nanaya has is the spine of a previous failed Lord of Frenzy - and it’s all that remains of said Lord. This seems to imply she’s a figure like Hyetta (but more direct) trying to make a Lord. Midra’s remembrance incant supports this as it says he wasn’t the first failed frenzy Lord. - Nanaya’s curse - as it’s called - for him to ‘endure’ seems more like it’s her trying to get the madness within him to fester til he becomes a Lord. Unendurable Frenzy’s description makes it seem like more pain/suffering = more frenzy

Don't rank the bosses if you haven't understood their lore yet.

Many of you decisions I do agree with, a couple not so quite. But if there is one thing you got right at the end of this... I do be simpin for the Dragon Priestess

"Putrescent knight wasn't what i wanted so it bad lore" Free my boy putrescent knight from this undeserved critisism Also, Metyr is number 1 for lore in this dlc, and the only one i will debate on this placement is messmer, but otherwise Metyr has the biggest lore drop in the game with the coolest design ever

bro put a spoiler warning but put the final boss in the thumbnail

I might be the only guy in the world who likes Putrescent Knight lmao

Some people believe that Rellana was married to Messmer, don't know how true that is but it sounds cool EDIT: Im almost sure Nanaya wanted Midra to become Lord of the frenzied flame

17:20 thats bcz u should hit the boss during the combos lol. This game has been this way since the start

"the hornsent are horrible people" And Marika is better? The shamans abused their positions as spiritual leaders,the jar thing was the hornsent trying to keep their power in check,Marika didn't like that and so she decides to commit genocide,that's not good,even Marika knew it wasn't good that why she sealed the away the land of shadow,because she was ashamed of her actions... (Also scadutree avatar is the best boss in the entire game)

Gaius being radahn’s rival is just so funny to me, he’s an ordinary dude riding on a giant boar and radahn is a giant Demi-god riding on a scrawny horse. I feel like this is very clearly the joke they were trying to go for here

I think with your biases i think these are points are skewed

Sorry bro, this is all wrong.

I really wish we got the gloam eyed queen she is the only god/empyrean that can embody some actual hope for the lands between to actually heal. Miquella is trying to dominate everything turning everyone into essentially drones Malenia is damaged goods and needs to be kept away from godhood at all costs Marika is too broken to be of any use to anyone other than to serve as a vessel for the elden ring Rani is downright ruthless willing to orchestrate the night of the black knives and butcher her siblings to get what she wants. Then upon becoming a god promptly leaves with you and the elden ring not really attempting to fix anything. (I personally rate age of stars as the best ending with the duskborn age as my second choice)

Ill keep spamming this but my theory is that midra is messmers and melinas father. Only pre erdtree lord we know of besides placidusax. We know to become a god of the golden order, you need a lord. Frenzy flame. Flame. Messmers flame. Burn the erdtree. What can burn the erdtree? It all adds up to me. Only thing going against it is nanayas corpse, but that could be an imposter left by marika to ensure midra didnt fully commit to the frenzy flame even though she used its power to become a god. It also adds up in the trailer for the dlc. A great seduction. And a betrayal? Also nanaya is the only "human" character to be shown to be pregnant in both the dlc and i think the main game. I feel like thats significant.

I understand all the criticism towards Radahn being the final boss, but guys, 3 of the main cast of NPC's explain why Radahn is here, and it also explains what Malenia said to Radahn in the first Elden Ring trailer. The build up was crazy, it felt like the Godfrey fight, a lord vs a lord.

The show isn't a prequal, because chalice in the show has no connections to the astral plane, but in the game she's an ancient warrior who is stuck in between the living and the astro plane

It makes sense gameplay wise why Radahn is the final boss as well. Not even the hardest boss in the base game could kill him

Poor Rellana, gets called a simp twice, but deserved

Rellana should get promoted on the off chance that she’s pontiff sully’s sister

One correction about st Tina, she didn’t force people into slumber, they amended to her for it when in despair and she provided the wary and downtrodden with rest. Miquella forces subjugation, trina relieves pain to the pained

I don't think Miquella is evil just a child in both body and mind. He thinks he is helping and is a genius just naive and selfish. like a child that does not know any better. I actually don't like Midra's fight or lore very much. There is no explanation as to why he sought to become the lord of frenzy flame. He just does. The fight is obnoxious, like the radahn fight it mostly dodge 10x then attack once.

Seeing Americans pronounce ''Scadu'' as Sca-doo'' hurts my brains. Like, it's very clearly a Germanic form of Shadow, very similar to Dutch in fact, ''Schaduw''. Scadu is pronounced ''Scaa-dew''. How the hell can Americans speak English, a Germanic language, yet still be so disconnected from its origins? It's downright impressive. Oh and don't you ever besmirch my boy Putrescent Knight. He's cool asf.

I will not stand for Rellana slanders. Her lore is interesting because the implications of her joining Messmer's crusade could tell us the timeline of things. Like, Rellana could join Messmer during Radagon and Rennala's marriage, during which time is when Marika sends Messmer to purge the Hornsents and it would make sense that the Carian would help the Golden Order. Or she join Messmee before the Leyndell vs Carian, her renouncing her royal status to follow Messmer wouldn't be approved by Rennala, but she obviously didn't stopped her. Also she isn't just some Carain knight, her skills for swordmanship and sorcery is so great she became Messmer's Sword, not just that, when she decided to join Messmer she gain herself followers which shows how charismatic and skillful she is. And her knowing Messmer would fail, but still chose to stay with him prove how loyal she is. The fact you dismiss this as a "simp" is undeserved. Rellana is amazing

Someone save radahn!

“All the nicest people end up sucking” don’t you ever talk about Siegward like that

I think bro likes dragons 😭

Metyr is important. Since the Greater Will is gone and the communication to the Greater Will comes from the Two Fingers that goes through Metyr then to the Greater Will, this means Metyr has been winging it the whole time. She's the one who's responsible for all the shit in the base game just cus her dad's being an absent parent.

You didnt complete Igon quest. I didnt hear the CURSE YOOOUUU BAAAYYYLLLEE

Your hopeful for silksong… I think we gotta wait until Elden ring 7

This video is most definitely Not ranking based on lore alone lmao

Metyr, I clapped him in 1 try, but he's like #2 next to Bayle for me. First try on Bayle I got him to half and he melted me. I came back after progressing the story of Dragon Communion more, got the buff, got Igon, and having Igon's voice acting made the fight come more alive. Every other NPC summon has nothing to offer minus one or two with a line or Dialogue. THIS mf just can't hold his fury in and rages most of the fight and even when it ends. I love it.

Bro forgot the greatest boss of the entire dlc, GOLDEN HIPPOPOTAMUS 🗣️🗣️

The boney boss right before Trina has his internal name refer to the gloam eyed queen, so we can assume that it was planned but they've scrapped her lore😢

... i like the putrescent knight, he's a goofy skeleton dude, he so silly although, i will admit his lore is pretty bad, so i guess his ranking makes sense

Bayle is metal AF. Bayle is the reason we even have dragon communion. A being SO PSYCHOTIC, he challenged and severely injured an ELDEN LORD and lived to tell the tale. Said Elden Lord then creates an entire ritual dedicated to hunting down Bayle and his kin in retaliation (Dragon Communion), producing what is now Drake Knights. Bayle is still kicking around despite the Ritual for ages, seeing civilizations rise and crumble to dust. And to top it off, even IF you manage to kill Bayle and consume his heart, his psychotic murderous rage will TAKE OVER YOUR SOUL. I fucking love all the lore around this character.