No demo.. and no returns if you don`t like it. Hard pass. I demo`d.. and then bought Recirculate instead. :)
@frankiewylde76497 сағат бұрын
this is a no brainer Kiive Softube
@Rhuggins8 сағат бұрын
I think its no contest. The Kiive holds up unbelievably close to the hardware, in my experience. The softube is way too aggressive. Theres a new mod to the Kiive which emulates the Lundahal transformer sheen. Also, when pushing the makeup gain (the "gain" knob on the kiive) it adds a lot of color. Color which tends to make the signal a lot louder, at the same peak level. It reminds me of hardware incredible ability to get perceived loudness while not increasing peak level
@audionerdlilcuz9 сағат бұрын
Oh that's easy, Softube.
@jrgroberts9 сағат бұрын
For me the Kiive has a broader range of possibilities. Which is good, 'cos I've gone off Softtube since their last ad. And am broke!
@TeslaOsiris10 сағат бұрын
How much do you want to bet that Softube put those output level differences on purpose to throw people off doing shootouts?
@whitenoisestudio9 сағат бұрын
I dunno, they have a difference between the two models on their plugin themselves.
@TeslaOsiris9 сағат бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio probably to create the illusion that the Mk2 is brighter because “newer” and Mk1 is darker and therefore “vintage”. It’s an acoustic trick they are playing on a listener who isn’t taking the time to see the nuances.
@SuperFake77710 сағат бұрын
Kiive
@luchs752710 сағат бұрын
LOL. I started informing about tubetech 5h ago because I want to buy a CL B plugin. This video comes perfectly for finding a decision. Thanks!!!! ☀️♥️
@DavidKfilmmaker10 сағат бұрын
Anyone doing film work use those or prefer one over the others?
@PharaohLawLess111 сағат бұрын
I tried the Kiive version but I prefer the Softube version and I prefer the Acustica Audio Titan 3 version more than the Kiive version
@LennonStephens11 сағат бұрын
It's great to have an alternative to the softtube for this compressor, as they have had the price really high on this one for a long time.
@LennonStephens13 сағат бұрын
SONIBLES GUI
@JorisPosthumus19 сағат бұрын
He, I have this plugin in my spark bundle but somehow its not showing up in my daw (pro tools) any thoughts about what could be the problem?
@snubdawg1386Күн бұрын
softubes tape crosstalk function is magical
@south828Күн бұрын
$49...
@dannyboycincoКүн бұрын
patiently waiting for the Neve & API summing to go Native so i can completely ditch LUNA
@somchaisainara947821 сағат бұрын
@@dannyboycinco API Summing is Native already.
@dannyboycinco19 сағат бұрын
@@somchaisainara9478 yeah, I meant having it as a plugin outside of LUNA since it’s exclusively for LUNA right now
@sonnybrasco9735Күн бұрын
Great review man
@tendingtropic7778Күн бұрын
only in spark?
@whitenoisestudioКүн бұрын
you can get it individually.
@strat002Күн бұрын
That mid-side trick is god tier
@whitenoisestudioКүн бұрын
And so easy to do :-)
@TheValueOfNКүн бұрын
I like the music.
@whitenoisestudioКүн бұрын
Thanks!
@KevhumanКүн бұрын
I really like the minimal stuff, although their, albiet pretty colour scheme might not do much for the colourblind. I probably won't bother with this as i have the moogerfogger and UVI shade. Im just wondering if this has been stripped from one of their other plugjns such as Current or Rift? That is the case for a lot of their cheaper plugjns
@JaKunaMusicКүн бұрын
Can EDM tracks benefit from this plugin? Like bass heavy EDM tunes or bass house/tech house?
@VicerFxКүн бұрын
if you like what it does to the sound go for it
@danielrennie84442 күн бұрын
Could the issue you mentioned of release times being frequency-dependent be solved by putting 2 instances of the plug-in on the track with different release times and different frequency filters set? Or would that make the sound more unnatural?
@SRW7622 күн бұрын
GREAT SONG
@Jeanjoroplin2 күн бұрын
I have tried to make my mixing template Brauerize style. It was a bit disappointing that the delay didn't appear in this new plugin, as the Grammy winner uses it in this way. In any case, I have already acquired the license. I will try to put it to good use for mastering.
@MPHORROCKS2 күн бұрын
I love UA products but their iLok cloud restriction is a pain! I also have the complete IK Multimedia tapes and they cover enough ground imho.
@bassc2 күн бұрын
Brilliant review, demoing this at the moment. Mid-side trick was great! Also, someone said the UAD user interfaces are basically embedded web browsers, on PC at least.
@maxgreen45352 күн бұрын
Everybody posting this video right now. How much are they paying you guys 🤣
@whitenoisestudio2 күн бұрын
me nothing unfortunately. I have a different sponsor for this video.
@JBroadway2 күн бұрын
Bro the mid side processing technique @ 11:45 is so sick!
@whitenoisestudio2 күн бұрын
Yeah it works really well! I use MSED to creta emid side for all sorts of things which dont have it build in, even hardware.
@JBroadway2 күн бұрын
Finally! A good in-depth video going through this plugin with audio examples. Thank you for making this.
@RomeoRuizMusic2 күн бұрын
So then , this is perfect for someone who is recording hip hop vocals over a two track beat thats already mixed ? I always have a hard time getting my vocals to sit well in two track beats. This carves the space out needed correct ? Thanks
@whitenoisestudio2 күн бұрын
That will help for sure, just be careful to not over do it. It kills the snappy beats if you do.
@RomeoRuizMusic2 күн бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio how or what is the M/S button for ? I’m assuming MidSide. But how do you use it ? Sorry I’m new to this. Thanks for the patience
@richertz2 күн бұрын
Pheonix - put that in your pipe
@DanielPestanaTranslations2 күн бұрын
I’ve seen people going into rabbit holes looking for the perfect tape simulation and owning several of these. I was, in my opinion, lucky to have tried the Waves J37 first and loving it because it was exactly what I was looking for. I also bought the Softube Tape on a whim after that, and regretted it immediately (I know some of you like it). Ended up just getting the J37 and opted to just try a bunch of demos of other tape simulations before buying them, just to see what was out there. The J37 does it for me. I also bought the Kiieve Audio Face Tape, because it behaves like an old AD/DA converter and it’s cool to get some nasty tones.
@jermaineinoue49192 күн бұрын
I hear that P Funk influence in the music example lol
@whitenoisestudio2 күн бұрын
Check RHCP sir psycho sexy.
@danielkisel56612 күн бұрын
Except less options to tweak did you compare the native and UAD-2 versions whether they sound the same when having the settings as close as possible? Thanks!
@whitenoisestudio2 күн бұрын
No I didn’t. My demo of the uad2 was expired. But I suspect no change in sound, simply because it wasn’t mentioned and that’s always a marketing strategy.
@danielkisel56612 күн бұрын
@whitenoisestudio yup, I was hoping for the same quality of sound. I just wanted to be assured that they didn't simplify the sound a bit as well 😉
@thsithks2 күн бұрын
The sound does not match, it does not null. It’s ridiculous. UA are so stupid for this implementation.
@massivebeatzzКүн бұрын
@@danielkisel5661 It's better, it's called an "upgrade"!. Rid of confusing functions and adding improvements. Anti aliasing better as well !
@Banoffeeee2 күн бұрын
cant use this as delay anymore?
@whitenoisestudio2 күн бұрын
Not directly in the plugin, no. You could always use it after a regular clean delay for the sound.
@andivax2 күн бұрын
Kramer Ampex is great! Use it often on instrumental groups for glue and tame peaks.
@whitenoisestudio2 күн бұрын
It’s a favorite for slap back for me. Gives a very nice vibe on vox.
@bellavita682 күн бұрын
Salut peut tu m’aider j’ai une carte appolo twin duo elle marchai sous Mojave sur mac et depuis elle n’est reconnue sur mon mac j’ai don du passez sur monterey et j’ai été sur leur site de uad et télécharger le ua Connect mai la carte n’est plus reconnue avant j’avais panel control et consol là ça tous changer avec ua Connect peut tu me donner un conseil merci
@whitenoisestudio2 күн бұрын
Its a hard one. It worked before and all of a sudden it stopped, or after an update? In any case, swap out the cable, you never know. If its pure software related I would really reach out to UAD customer service, they're the experts.
@doubleslit33892 күн бұрын
I couldn’t care less about realistic tape calibration. Like revisiting a burden from the past.
@whitenoisestudio2 күн бұрын
Yeah same. Only the missing tape delay section is a shame.
@heryouhatebuttowhoyoumaste19912 күн бұрын
This plug is the best, it saves my mixes with its EQ. So happy they made it native!!
@commitdubs2 күн бұрын
Still waiting for my special karma points
@lukewarm53562 күн бұрын
Good review, like that track a lot
@whitenoisestudio2 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@frequency_sequencer2 күн бұрын
i still prefer Acustica Taupe
@athonygraham8353Күн бұрын
Yeah, much better
@joesalyers2 күн бұрын
The Native Version is actually a big GUI version of the Luna Extension not the UA-2 version. Everyone had been asking for this plugin since UA went native, sadly they just put their luna extension in a large GUI.
@Rhuggins2 күн бұрын
Who cares? Its the same code.
@iceprada22 күн бұрын
@@Rhuggins 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@massivebeatzzКүн бұрын
@@Rhuggins better code actually. Aliasing fixed. Better graphics. This was a 15 year old plugin,. and due for a fix.
@RhugginsКүн бұрын
@@massivebeatzz they have already publicly confirmed that its exactly the same code
@Drfresh14022 күн бұрын
Who said they wanted it simplified? Who? UAD did this for other, probably more lucrative reasons.
@massivebeatzzКүн бұрын
It's better, it's called an "upgrade"!. Rid of confusing functions and adding improvements. Anti aliasing better as well ! Still way too much than anybody needs for a good tape plugin.
@ran-diy-audio2 күн бұрын
Yeah!! it's honestly a disappointment. I bought it with all the hype and ended up surprised that it lacks several of the best features that the UAD-2 version has. Give me the option to choose complex or simple, the plugin always had the option to auto-calibrate, that is not a valid excuse for sell me an inferior version, or are they now going to sell me the extension? I want all the control over wow & flutter and noise for creative purposes!! and the Delay!! By the way, tanks for the Mid-Side tip trick. Anyway... Excellent review regardless, you have a new Suscriptor here =)
@massivebeatzzКүн бұрын
These features were useless- tape is a subtle effect, not a ping pong delay insert, It's better, actually it's called an "upgrade"!. Rid of confusing functions and adding improvements. Anti aliasing implemented correctly. Not going to use a 13 year old UAD2 plugin, sorry.
@ran-diy-audioКүн бұрын
@@massivebeatzz for You! congrats! live and let die. Not Your problem if You are happy
@JohnMarshall-NI2 күн бұрын
I think that the main reason that they removed some features is to bring the latency of the plugin down significantly. The DSP version of the plugin adds a LOT of latency. It would be cool if they released the full version as well, but not a huge deal for me.
@whitenoisestudio2 күн бұрын
UAD2 by itself has bigger latency when you use it in a DAW - it has to do with the interface AFAIK, moving back and forth data via usb or thunderbolt. But I didnt test the older plugin on the DSP for latency. They told me it was basically for streamlining the new user experience. I personally think delay and testtones are that big of a cause for extra latency?
@JohnMarshall-NI2 күн бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio if you load the DSP version as an insert in the UAD console, the latency makes it pretty unusable for real time monitoring. According to the page that references UAD plugin latencies, the DSP induces 2262 samples while the native version induces 212 samples. Pretty significant!
@JohnMarshall-NI2 күн бұрын
I tried to share the Google doc with the link to the latency charts, but you must have link sharing disabled. Worth checking out if you are interested in that sort of thing.
@massivebeatzzКүн бұрын
it is the "full" version. It's better, it's called an "upgrade"!. Rid of confusing functions and adding improvements. Anti aliasing better as well as autogain and update dgraphics. The old 13 year old plugin was unusable at this point.
@Burnax2 күн бұрын
Most honest, complete and really useful review about this new native plugin so far... (Mixbus is sponsored by UAD and White Sea does not say anything about the quality of the plugin)
@whitenoisestudio2 күн бұрын
Thanks, means a lot! I always try to give a balanced view, happy to see you appreciate it :-)
@Derelkd2 күн бұрын
@@Burnax really Mixbus is sponsored? He say he doesnt sponsored
@Rhuggins2 күн бұрын
@@Derelkdyou must be joking. Its so obvious - everything on his channel he is paid for. Especially when he calls every single new plugin “THE BEST PROCESSOR OF ALL TIME” cmonn…dont be so naiive
@Derelkd2 күн бұрын
@@Burnax but he hates the capitol mastering processor from uad maybe paid from other company
@Stormchaser189Күн бұрын
@@Derelkd Gnozzis built his channel up being a pluginfluencer and gets paid to promote which means more subs. Simple math really.
@MariJu1ce2 күн бұрын
Too bad they deleted the tape delay stuff. I was looking for it when mixing yesterday and thought i had misremembered it being there
@whitenoisestudio2 күн бұрын
Yeah I feel the same. I get it when they want to offer a more streamlined version, but taking away a good use case for the plugin is always a bit of a shame.
@zeridium91292 күн бұрын
For some reasons I can't load recorded sounds inside my Ableton session, it says "seems not to be an audio file" even tho it's WAV, FLAC or MP3, that makes no sens. Is there any trick to bypass the error message?