"Teddy, I'm still in love with you." Where was the mindset when you cheated on her, Spencer 😃

How is no one talking about her sweatshirt. It literally says "Property of Dove Cameron" and I find that hilarious.

Haven’t watched the whole video, but I DESPISE Disney channel for having the female forgive and get back together with the crappy male. Teddy in GLC is the biggest example.

I still hate Spencer with a burning passion

What kind of person says "you're gonna regret this" when someone breakups with you, lmao

spencer: teddy i can't just be friends with you, im still in love with you the sound effects: awww everyone watching the show: its about time

As someone they really didn’t care about Rini there breakup scene was emotional

One I think actually belongs here is Alex and Mason during the wizard of the year award because he was being petty and didn't believe her and just generally childish with how jealous he was as though it wasn't even about loving or wanting to be with Alex but just despising Chase and it was so refreshing for 2 good looking boys to look to the main character asking her to pick one of them and for her to say 'neither'

Talking about GMW: "The shipping wars for this show was the most intense" Me: You definitely haven't entered the Miraculous Ladybug fandom... yet :)

I remember how loud I screamed when teddy and spencer got back together. Then the breakup rejoiced me

Rucas was really boring like every other predictable Disney ship.. Lucaya's relationship felt kind of mature in a way.. and whenever they talked we could feel the tension in the air, that's what I loved about them! There is also involvement of the actors in this. I remember Peyton and Rowan mentioned many times how awkward they were while filming those scenes ( which is understandable) and it showed. But the writers made the awkwardness look like their 'thing' which just didn't work out.. While on the other hand Riarkle was so much better.. but unfortunately they didn't get many scenes.. but we could see they were so much more comfortable.

The fact that Spencer said "is there anything I can do to change your mind" really shows that he hadn't changed and that he was trying to push her to say yes he was kinda trying to control her and kinda trying to guilt trip her with the "I'm still in love you". That shows that he was still a toxic person. He had already cheated and that is just red flags and toxicity on top of the fact he cheated

I mainly watched HSMTMTS as a joke but rejoiced when Rini broke up. What's supposed to be the saddest scene in the show, I found myself happy.

Olivia Rodrigo saying "I don't want to hold you back, but can I hold you now?" Straight up sounds like a song lyric she would write.

i was kinda mad rini got back together at the end of s1 because i felt they had matured enough after their first breakup to the point where they didn’t need to be together to be happy and when they broke up again i was literally so happy 😭

Maddy and whenever Diggie and her broke up. Diggie is the woooorst!

"I didn't really like any of the characters" Girl the characters were the reason I kept watching 😂 Edit: Gina and EJ are the best of course, but I love how every character was given something to do and they didn't just fade into the background, even if said plot lines were quite messy.

Nini and Ricky absolutely broke my heart but made me happy at the same time. Very conflicting emotions for me

Ricky and Nini’s needs are fundamentally opposed. Ricky has a broken family and desires stability and has abandonment issues stemming from his mother, while Nini desires change and independence and seeking new horizons. I will say that I don’t like how the show paints everything like it’s Ricky’s fault when he’s the one with literal trauma from his parents’ divorce and he’s clearly going through a ton emotionally and mentally and struggling with mental health issues, meanwhile Nini is getting everything handed to her (she basically writes songs and then either Kourtney calls the Dean of YAC to get her into the school or her moms pay for the expensive school and don’t question her leaving it or Carlos records her song without her permission and makes her go viral or Gina hands her the number of a music producer-where is Nini’s agency? why isn’t she the one to stick her neck out there and receive success by her own actions?) and doesn’t have much conflict in her personal life that isn’t a result of her choosing to not communicate with Ricky. Also, Nini telling Ricky that the Rose Song wasn’t about him and their relationship when multiple characters asked him if he was okay bc the song was so clearly about him and when Nini (the Rose) said it was from the Rose’s perspective talking about the Beast (Ricky) and the song had nothing to do with the actual themes of BATB…..that’s straight up gaslighting. No I’m not kidding. Instead of being honest with him she tried to convince him that *he* was being out of line, crazy, reading into things, being unsupportive when he was so clearly trying to be supportive while struggling with doubts and insecurities…..Rini is a wildly unhealthy ship and I’m so glad they broke up. Edit: Yes, Ricky is clingy. But we know *why* he’s clingy. It’s because he’s terrified of being like his parents. He wants to give his all and do everything he can to salvage his relationship with Nini, to the point of being far too clingy and not saying when he’s upset or has an issue with an aspect of their relationship until he’s at his breaking point. He goes so far as to blame himself for Nini not telling him she’s moving to another state when she knows, well and truly knows, that he has abandonment issues stemming from his mother moving away before the divorce was even announced. It’s not healthy and he recognizes that in the break up scene by saying he doesn’t like who he’s becoming. Meanwhile, what reasons does Nini have for not communicating? Why doesn’t she tell Ricky her issues with his clinginess and instead complain to Kourtney about it? Why does she get excited when a song that wrote to vent about her frustrations with Ricky goes viral and humiliates him? The Rose Song further traumatized Ricky (no I’m not kidding) by putting his relationship and the private struggles within it on full blast for not only the entirety of his high school to see, but the world. Now everyone in his school probably knows him as “the boy in The Rose Song.” And when Ricky didn’t show 100% support, Nini immediately got upset and told him that not everything is about him. The irony is that most of season 2, Ricky is very visibly doing his absolute best to be supportive while clearly struggling with not being honest about the things in the relationship that are hurting him. Meanwhile Nini is also not being honest, but being unsupportive while doing it. Everyone is so quick to blame Ricky for everything, inside and outside the show, when he’s the one with very clear psychological reasons for every action he makes, whilst Nini is the one with consistently selfish motives who gets upset when the focus and support isn’t constantly on her. There’s a way to write a story where you root for the main character striving for independence, fame and success, and Nini is *not it.*

The Lucas and Riley one was right Lucas should’ve ended up with Maya and Riley with Farkle ❤️

riley and lucas were always just boring, maya should’ve got him

Tbh, it’s totally okay if someone doesn’t want to be friends with their ex (just don’t be a jerk about it). Teddy and Spencer wanted different things that just wouldn’t worked out in that break up.

I was rooting for Miley and Jake as a kid because I truly felt like he had the power to change. Plus, they made a big deal about him coming back for the Jake-Miley-Jesse love triangle and it kind of irritated me when they broke up for the final time in season 4, especially when Disney did that whole "He Could Be the One" stuff. Watching clips of the show now, though, I do find it strange that Jake liked Miley because she didn't care for him being a celebrity, yet he made no effort to try fit in and be a regular guy. He liked that special treatment he got at school, didn't he?!?!

I like how Jonah and Amber wore beanies to both breakups lmao

The funny thing about Rini to me is that there’s a group chat on tumblr full of Rina fans and we literally broke down during s1 exactly why Rini was a doomed ship-we talked about the characters’ needs and motives and psychology and analyzed their dialogue and whatnot. And we saw the Rini breakup coming for ages and ages. It wasn’t just from a “we want our ship to sail” perspective, but a “here is a detailed breakdown of why Rini is fundamentally unhealthy and won’t last.” And it’s surprising to me that lots of people are still surprised that Rini sank when to me and to a good chunk of other people, the writing was on the wall from the beginning. Yes, this comment is partially me tooting my own horn. It feels good to predict something correctly. But mostly I made this comment to say that there are people in the fandom who were not surprised about Rini’s trajectory at all.

Riley and Maya's friendship was beautiful and I get that they were trying to recreate Boy Meets World, and though it was great their chemistry was too good for them to not become Rilaya

1. I did not like Rini at all in season 2 (mostly because of Nini) and did not find their breakup sad at all because I just wanted them to be broken up at that point (I was more relieved/happy) 2. Jonah and Amber were such a problematic couple I'm so glad that Amber was able to redeem herself in season 2 3. I don't remember Spencer being so annoying especially during their breakup 4. I agree Jake and Hannah were cute in the beginning I remember shipping them when I was younger but rewatching I realized how bad Jake was especially after he cheated

Amber and Jonah's breakup was just- it was so satisfying tbh. i was glad amber got redeemed but it was just unbearable in the first season my lord

I started watching HSMTMTS after the whole "Driver's License/Skin/Lie Lie Lie" fiasco but I was able to separate the actors from their characters. But even with that, I hated Ricky and Nini together from the first episode. Ricky has always just seemed like the most neediest boyfriend ever who can't fathom the idea that his girlfriend has a life outside of him despite being in love. I was happy they broke up. Hell Kourtney and Howie's breakup was sadder than Ricky and Nini's

I'm a die hard shipper and hopeless romantic but I gotta admit too much attention on couples can take away the heart of any show. You should make a video about the top 10 friendships on Disney. But I love the relationship vids too. I just think giving some love to the character's friendship dynamics would be really sweet.

I think we can all agree we love breakups when we dont want them together, haha!

I think Nini and Ricky weren’t good for each other anymore, but their on-screen breakup reflects all the emotions you know they had during their real breakup. I can’t imagine having to go through that twice, even though one was for TV. It would just feel too real to me. It broke my heart, but it was also a sigh of relief because they can breath now.

Spencer is literally saying how he deserves to be with her completely disregarding Teddy’s feelings even after she tells him how she feels. and the sad thing is that’s how it is in so many Disney relationships

I fucking love this channel I don't know anything about most of these shows and I love your in depth analysis of them. It's like watching Olympic sports I've never heard of. It's fascinating.

i will never ever sit back down and watch girl meets world in its entirety. sure, i'll skip around and watch episodes here and there, but i will never binge-watch it ever again. they did maya's character absolute FILTH when it came to the triangle.

honestly i feel like ricky and nini have always been better off as friends

I'd love to see a video on best sibling relationships from Disney channel or Nickelodeon or both. A vid where you rate the sibling relationships and how close they are, how they're family relationship develops or how to act towards each other ecterea.

I love your interpretation of Marco's attachment to the cape--it makes total sense. I hadn't really thought about it before and only viewed it as him missing all the adventures and excitement he used to have when Star was around. But once you said it, I was like, 'Oh, duh, of course!' And the symmetry is great, too, considering Scent of a Hoodie (one of my favorite episodes).

I think with Ricky and Nini, there was a sense of maturity in their break up. They realized (and Ricky initiated, which is huge) that they were holding each other back. They saw that their relationship wasn't as healthy as it once was, or could have been, so they decided that breaking up was the best route to go. Personally, this break up was a favorite for me because it showed us that Ricky realized his actions and decided to do something about it because he saw it was toxic. And honesty, I respect that. I'm very interested to see what happens with Lily in the future, and what Nini thinks and how their friendship develops

“it’s a deal breaker” GO ZENDAYA QUEEN

When you were talking about Teddy and Spencer you accidentally said “tables shipped” instead of “tables flipped” 😂😂😂 Edit: apparently she said shifted not shipped

I'm here again asking you to watch The Next Step. I would like to see you rank those ships or something similar.

But Cait! You have to finish HSMTMTS bc of Portwell!! I honestly think you’ll love them so much!

I like the clip from the Teddy and Spencer breakup because it's a good maturity moment for Teddy to see you have to grow away from people, sometimes things change, like how Spencer didn't want to stay friends.

when i started s2 of hsmtmts, it was already hard for me to care about ricky and nini as a couple, because the irony of what was happening in the show and in real life was just too big for me to ignore, but i tried very hard you know, and from the first few episodes, it becomes apparent that the relationship is becoming claustrophobic and unhealthy, they're both very unhappy, so the break up felt very satisfying, because all that tension built was finally released, and the scene itself was very emotional, they were clearly very upset and i was sad even though i was like FINALLY! and i have to give the joshua and olivia props, they are professionals, i believed every emotion that they wanted me to, at the start i was like aw you love each other, cute, and at the end i was like aw, this is so sad! and it was also a cathartic scene seeing a break up with them that felt so real, the little part of me that was sad about olivia and josh's break up irl was like aw well at least they got to act that out

Caitlin talking about the "business deal" ships reminded me of how happy I am that Apple and Daring were never together and no matter how gungho Apple was about her destiny she didn't let it pressure her and Daring into and unhappy relationship

When I was little I used to hate the laugh track on Disney shows but now I miss it so much. Like I feel like it’s becoming more and more rare on Disney

I agree!!! I loved Matteo and Ámbar’s friendship sooo much and I really wanted to see more of it!! Especially that moment you put in and the one in S1E80 where Matteo forgives her and they hug❤️

The titles just keep getting better and better.

Can I just say rini’s breakup broke me and I can’t believe the writers did that to me

Ive never seen caitlyn smile so much in a thumbnail, YES FINALLY THESE SHIPS WERE BROKEN.

I was soooo upset about the rini breakup … I sobbed 😭😭

16:32 This breakup scene got me crying. Whilst I didn't love the couple, this breakup scene had me in tears. The "Can I just hold you now?" And " You known got you" in this scene got me so bad

Rewatched GMW 3 times since it ended, and every time, my love for Lucaya just grew stronger.

I LOVED rini and season 1 and the start of season 2, but they started to feel really toxic so the breakup was ok with me. Also s2 of hsmtmts in my opinion was horrible.

Spencer seemed so full of himself in that scene if you really think about it at first Beau is so good I’m more of a Marissa and Brady fan I loved the Rocky and Logan one cause it really shows how good a friend Rocky is!

Amber was so toxic & manipulative with Jonah & I'm so glad they broke up

I didn't watch all of good luck charlie, I think I stopped watching sometime after Teddy and Spencer broke up after he cheated, and before they got back together (No real reason why I stopped watching, I just wasn't watching a lot of TV in general at that time). So most of what I know about them getting back together and their relationship afterwards comes from your videos. And though I don't know exactly what happened that convinced Teddy to forgive him, it still in principle bugs me that they get back together after he cheats. It's just such a betrayal that I wouldn't really expect anyone to go through the copious amount of time and work to regain that trust and to prove that they would never do never do it again, especially when there are so many people out there who would just never break that trust in the first place. And this is based just on the clip you showed, but his reaction during their second break up makes me question if Spencer really has changed. Like... this is going to be hard to explain. But I believe Spencer means it when he says "I love you" but I feel like there's an important thing missing behind his "I love you," which is "I care about you." You would think an "I love you" would automatically imply "I care about you" but it doesn't. Spencer's "I love you" feels more like an "I care about you [on the condition that we're dating]" But I don't think there's any intentional malice on Spencer's part in his claim to love Teddy. I don't think he's actively thinking, "I'll only be in your life if you date me otherwise I'm going to shut you out for the crime of not being with me." The only thing he is likely thinking is, "I love Teddy and want to be with her no matter what" And from his perspective that's a fair and unproblematic sentiment... but I don't think he's fully grasped the way he centers himself in everything. I think there's an understated self centeredness in the way Spencer feels things. Like, I don't think he believes other should treat him as a king and I don't think he'd go around being mean to other people, but the way he seems to think is centered on his emotions, and only his emotions. He wants to be with Teddy because HE loves her. He can't just be friends with her because HE SPECIFICALLY loves her romantically. To only be friends with her would be too hard for HIM. And like Caitlin mentioned, the "What can I do to change your mind" is weird. I feel like it's weird because it quietly implies that his feelings on the matter shouldn't be the ones to change, it should be Teddy's feelings that change. I'm going to add for anyone reading this that it is valid if you ever had a situation when you had unrequited feelings or broke up with someone and you were unable to maintain a friendship with them afterwards. Relationships are complicated, it doesn't mean you're selfish or bad or anything. It's just Spencer's reaction during the second break up mixed with knowing he has cheated on Teddy in the past is what gives me this impression of him. I guess to try to sum up a very long comment, once upon a time Spencer cheated on Teddy. They eventually got back together. And I feel like if you spoke to him before their second break up and asked if he would ever cheat again, he'd answer "No" and mean it. But if you asked him why he said no, I don't think he'd say, "I wouldn't want to hurt Teddy" or "That would be a horrible thing to do." I think he'd say, "I love Teddy, I wouldn't want to cheat on her." And it's nice that he loves Teddy today... but what about tomorrow, and all the days after? What would he do then?

I like how they had Spencer decline the friendship cause that's something that actually happens.

Hey Caitlin! I always enjoy your comparison lists. During the video, I was wondering if your fav/worst ships change from when you first watched a show vs when you rewatched the show a few years later.

After rewatching girl meet world and paying attention to how the other students treated maya, especially in the yearbook episode, the whole plot point of Maya becoming Riley makes a lot of sense. Also my ships stayed the same, except that I no longer ship Farkle and Smackle

I felt like nini was too good for Ricky in S2. He was so weird with the “you’re changing” thing because of his trauma from his mom leaving. I think they’re better as friends and Ricky needs therapy

I just want to say that I just found your channel and you might just be my comfort person. Your voice and the way that I connect to you and your reviews, is a lot to me

SEEING NINI ON THE THUMBNAIL MADE ME SO HAPPY ONCE I SAW THE TITLE WHAT

I was obsessed with Girl Meets Works when it was on air (I also grew up watching BMW, so I was very excited for the spin-off.) About once a year, I go back to rewatch episodes of GMW for fun, every year I notice, relate to and pick out different details I never saw when I was younger. Watching it for probably the millionth time now, there are definitely lots of cringy and “profound” (forced) moments, so I don’t really like the relationships bc a lot of them feel awkward and/or forced from my POV today. I used to be a hardcore Rucas shipper bc they were sort of similar characters, but recently I really liked Riarkle bc I feel like they can learn a lot from each other and they always have a great time (even as friends.) As everyone has already said, many of the scenes from the show felt forced, but I grew up feeling so attached to the show and its characters, so I can’t help but still feel somewhat attached to it 😭

a stream last night and then a new video?? i feel spoiled 🤩 love it

I appreciate the variety on this list.

i remember being super satisfied by the breakup in starstruck between alexis and christopher lol

Luna and Simon’s breakup was also very satisfying I always preferred them as friends plus ir was necessary for lutteo to happen.

I have to be honest, it’s been so long since I’ve seen Shake It Up that I forgot it even had ships in it

I always interpreted the line “is there anything i can do to change your mind?” as just another way of saying “are you sure?” Though i guess it is just better to say “are you sure?” for the sake of clarity

I found this channel recently just wanted to say I cant wait to watch Luna I speak Spanish but it's pretty choppy cause I just don't speak it often but this is the perfect level for me and I don't know why I never thought of it. Also I just love hearing someone older talk about disney and keep up with it too.yay

These breakups are like popping pimples, oddly satisfying

17:40 I remember you saying you didn't like the I love you scene and found some lines that Joshua improvised kinda cringe. I also remember that you said that even if you weren't really fond of the show you were still gonna watch the second season and actually wanted to do it

Marco and Jackie being number 3, like you don't understand how relieved I was.

I'm curious to go back to rewatch GMW. I watched the first (and maybe second) season when it first aired and then I binge-watched the whole thing almost three-and-a-half years ago. But I will admit that second time I watched it, I was not in the shipping mindset as (1) I was sick and (2) my dog had just died, so I ended up using GMW as a comfort show. It actually took watching Caitlin talk about Riarkle (and thus opening my eyes to that ship) some time later for me to get into the GMW ships. I kind of doubt I'll actually be okay with Rucas (since now I am completely Team Riarkle), but I am curious to rewatch GMW. Although, I should probably go through my shows that I'm trying to get through first... and all of my other "I need to get around to watching that" shows... and maybe some other "I should rewatch that" shows.

Ricky and Nini's break up was the saddest thing ever in my opinion and I really miss Rini.😭😭

Loved the Miley Jake one bc of the nostalgia factor for me and I feel like the writing was well thought out, all their lines still hold up even now.

I only know like a small portion of the ships that you're speaking about here because I'm 24 and I grew up in the Hannah Montana erra of Disney and stopped watching after Wizards of Waverly Place ended. But I really liked your take on these ships and it was very interesting to me, I might even consider watching some of these shows!

can i just say that i absolutely adore your content and wish you an amazing day :3

its always so funny whenever a ship breaks up and i’m like “YES FINALLY” but they make it so dramatic and they try so hard to make us sad about it and its like bish what?? edit: ALSO THERES A CHARACTER IN BIA NAMED MARA??? SHE RA IS THAT YOU??? I GUESS EVERYONE WHO IS HER FRIEND CAN BE CALLED A FRIEND OF MARA NOW HAHAHAH JK BUT STILL WE LOVE

I’m glad that I’m not the only who hated nini and Ricky as a couple. One of the main reasons I hated them as a couple was because Ricky always made everything in their relationship about him…… my bad I didn’t mean to rant ☺️

I’m halfway through the video and I just noticed your hoodie. I love it. 🤣

i def cried when ricky and nini broke up… that said i heard in the video and also lots of comments people talking about the “drivers license drama” and i think it’s important that we as a society stop perpetuating these made up online rumors… josh has straight up said that they never were in a relationship and the fact that people even in the mainstream media but online in general keep insisting they were isn’t… great imo. take people at their word, digging into people’s private lives is invasive even if they are famous. they’re costars and anything beyond the friendship they’ve spoken about having is pure speculation…

I was so ready for Rini to break up even though I loved them in season one. Once we got some better ships (REDLYN!!) there was really no need for Ricky and Nini to stay together. I’m glad they broke up, but the scene was still super emotional, and I had to go to Sonic and get a therapy slush afterwards…

Unpopular opinion: I never really liked Ricky and Nina's relationship in either season. I never felt they were a good couple. I wish Ricky and Gina actually happened, because I feel Ricky was a lot more likable when he spent time with Gina.

All I'm gonna say is that S2 Rini annoyed me and I was watching the show for Seblos and Redlyn (Hoping they'll get a season 3 because I need more of those couples), so yeah, I was glad (the scene didn't make me happy, but the fact that they broke up did, if that makes sense) to see them breakup as it was for the best!

It's been so long since I've seen Shake It Up, but YES ROCKY, GO OFF!!!! We love queens standing up for their besties!!

Tom and Star's second relationship was actually kinda healthy and mature

i agree with all the ships on this list. also i’m still team ricky and gina. gina/sofia wylie is still the reason i even watch the show. plus you didn’t miss much for the second half of the season.

The title is everything

3:20 I tried going back and rewatching but the treatment of maya in GMW is just so horrible that I have a hard time watching a character I relate to so much go through that again

caitlin: i wonder if you guys have thought about going back and rewatching the shows? me: i’ve rewatched gmw multiple times; sue me

I read the title and saw Nini on the thumbnail and went, "Oh no..." I mean, I saw the breakup coming, but it still *destroyed* me

CAITLIN YOUR THE WORST YOU MADE ME WATCH RINI BREAK UP AGAIN NOW I MIGHT CRY FOR ANOTHER 3 DAYS

you reminded me how much i loved that moment when chase dumps his gf to stay friends with zoey ugh

So happy to see Nini and Ricky on this list. Also, totally fine to include Disney+ stuff, it´s basically the evolution of Disney Channel, now that DC is kinda disappearing. I was so on board with them in season 1. And I don´t care about all the alleged drama. But this shift in season 2... I really wasn´t sure if it was intentional at first. They became so bad together. And then episode 8 happened, and while it was really sad and emotional, I was so relieved and happy. It was just the best thing that could happen to both of their characters.

Ambar and matteo breaking up was one of the best things in soy luna besides lutteo and also today's the anniversary of the last episode airing

I've never actually seen KC Undercover (I should though) but that scene of KC and Brett is amazing! They kinda remind me of Mia and Nicholas (from Princess Diaries) in that scene

I definitely need to go back just to see if my opinions on these ships are still my opinions or if they've changed