Smart guy

It was the perfect weapon in peace time using intimidation as a weapon, but had plenty of flaws as a true combat platform. The First Order had no excuse for copying it's design as they use there's primarily in combat. They apparently just copied every bad idea the Empire had and made it bigger, as if that would fix the problem.

@@dugclrk In "Tales of Mos Eisley Canteen" one if the Storm Troopers had trained to be an AT-AT pilot, but was transferred to the Storm Troopers when he discovered the AT-AT's weakness to snub fighters, and development on the spot an effective countermeasure to them (he squatted the machine, preventing a successful attack).

Michael Ramon they do say the AT-AT is the Empire’s best design

I don’t think an ATAT would even scare me in a battle. It would be easy as shit to just hide from it, as well as being very easy to knock out with a better designed traditional vehicle. Even a stationary anti armor cannon would have a field day shooting down something as visible as the ATAT.

It looks cool

Indeed, it looks cool, tbh it spooked me when I first gazed upon it, pain to get on and off.

Holy shit, I didn't expect to see you here.

Tiger 2 tank be like

Or the high ground

@@icy101yteeeahh. Just wow.

I didn't know you liked star wars

Why have a drone when you have a planet killer

@@icy101yt high ground only works if your Obi-Wan, just ask dismemberment Ani & Maul lol.

The Android from Aiur well it makes sense, they’re taking over a galaxy so they want powerful weapons

They also made it so it’s impossible to trip.

Thats the first order in a nuthsell

Sounds like the TF2 engineer 'use gun, and if that don't work use more gun'

Unmobilized big gun turret

That cartoon sucks

Fuck rebels

But it takes a moister farmer to do that, a farmer that's just moist won't cut it at all.

Maybe it even takes the moistest.

This thread has all but dried up.

Reminds me of my last visit to Taco Bell.

Aram Fingal Why did you throw a grenade into Taco Bell?

during one of the training courses on Carida, a promising Cadet named Davin Felth lowered his walker to its knees in order to prevent the opposing force from exploiting the weakness its long legs presented. The weakness threatened Veers's career, as it was so closely tied to the success of the walkers. Veers buried the incident by reassigning Felth to the infantry.

@@sheilaolfieway1885 TAT'S the one I was thinking about in a response above this one.

I could imagine Jawas Stormtroopers.

Whiskey Throttle Agreed also you could fit speeders

@InfiniteMushroom they're from the first settlers on tatooine not the empire

@InfiniteMushroom i mean the crawler, the jawas might not have the industrial capabilities to build these, but they sure as hell are good at maintenance

Here* hear is what you do with your ears

That's what the First Order AT-M6 basically is, self-propelled artillery. It's a humongous mechanical gorilla with a turbolaser strapped to its back. Its front legs are made very big and heavy to support it when it leans forward prior to firing.

Makes sense, imagine a walking mortar cannon with thick af armor! (And maybe some movable cannons!)

The at at walker I think was built more as a tool used for psychological warfare as well as a mobile command deck.

@@claytongunter171 Right, like the Tarkin Doctrine..which was the era of the original design,

There’s the AT-IC, All Terrain Ion Canon

IIRC, the film crew studied how an elephant walked, and replicated its gait with the AT-AT, as they’re similarly very large, heavy, lumbering beasts.

My friend you are not alone Long Live The Empire!!

My allegiance is to the Republic, to Democracy.

tba113 did people actually read this all?

@@pabsitterab675 i did, and having while it sounds good it is rather off. higher gravity means that it won't be deploying troops, which is what it is designed to deploy. having a leg that can handle a ton of weight means nothing in regards to stability, after all a railroad tie on its end can support a massive amount of weight but will topple on its own.

In a high gravity environment, I figured vehicles like the AT-AT would be battle-taxis rather than infantry fighting vehicles, and only unload its troops directly into areas with gravity control systems like those used aboard starships, such as a sealed colony. The AT-AT would still need to contend with the planet's high gravity, but the troops aboard it would be shielded from high-gravity conditions. ...Though I guess I am making the assumption that an artificial gravity system is built into the AT-AT itself as well. Those systems are small and light enough to wedge into one-man fighters like X-Wings, though, so I'm sure there's room for one on an environmentally-sealed armored walker the size of an office building. As for the balance issue, my thought was to consider how a tall surface ship is designed, like a sailing ship. One thing they have to take into account is what might happen when the ship pitches and rolls in heavy seas. The designers of the Swedish sailing ship _Vasa_ didn't do this properly: a gust of wind tipped her over more than expected, allowing seawater to flooded in through her open gun ports and sink the ship in minutes. With the AT-AT's engine, weapons, and heaviest armor so far above the ground, I figured the walker uses some artificial balancing system to not randomly fall over, but that that system is only so strong. If a reckless walker crew stuffed more weight in the main hull, that would make the machine even more top-heavy. If they did that too much, then at some point the balancing system won't be able to keep its feet under it anymore.

This is actually probably the best explanation for the crazy high number. Basically it could be a way to know what planets an AT-AT can be used on.

Another potential stresser engineers would have to over-design for is how AT-ATs are deployed into battle- they're dropped from gozanti class transports, occasionally from heights I estimate to be 40-50 feet.

The weight of the AT-ACT is too much for the "knees" so is uses magnetic field generators to keep it upright. The ion canon disabled that field wich destroyed the "knees"

@@sambal_sauz3029 IIRC the AT-ACT also had less armor to begin with.

@@TheCaniblcat hence how annoying it is that here they use AT-ACTs from Rogue One to emphasise the point about armour

Spencer Holden Definitely can’t compare the two, since one was basically a giant cargo container, and the other is a war machine. The AT-AT has a shield to protect itself from blast, unlike the AT-ACT which had the magnetic field to hold it up, and since it wasn’t used for combat this field replaced the shield. Also this claims that it’s a bad vehicle, but every Star Wars movie or game disagree and make it the ultimate vehicle

Then again the At-Act was mainly just used for cargo and transport. Not combat

It’s called plot armor, which farmer boi had a shit ton of and the giant metal war machine had none

lol they repel but now I can’t get the squating image out my head

There's a Legends reference to them being able to kneel like a camel or an elephant. Which also negates a belly attack, still quite a distance for troops to disembark but I would guess that gantry hatch swings all the way down to allow them to march out.

Belly down.

@InfiniteMushroom Apparently it did carry stormtroopers in it's belly. Heck, it even has bays to store speeders.

@InfiniteMushroom I agree. The AT-AT just couldn't choose what it was supposed to be. An artillery platform? A troop transport? A waste of Imperial money? That's why the Republic LAAT is waaay better.

To be fair, it's not necessarily a bad design, the chassis is actually useful for a lot of combat roles, just not the purposes the Empire was using them for. They sorely needed a purpose built main battle tank/walker and Infantry Fighting Vehicle.

Psst ya wanna buy some deathsticks?

1. laser swords can not be used sexually without devastating consequences. 2-10. I dont have one

The Spice must flow.

Whoever controls the spice controls the Universe!!!

It has really advanced sensors and its impossible to set up mines and traps for them because of said sensors.

@Blobux Blob But it will not work for people who doesn't feel fear in the first place.

@@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847 No such thing as that.

@@imppro I meant some people has balls of steel to challenge death itself. Hell, if i saw an AT-AT, plan ahead and kick ass while saying FUCK YOU to the Force.

The holy trinity of armor: firepower, mobility, protection...this has two right. Sort of. Firepower is concentrated forward, so is very limited. Protection, sort of...it is very armored. Mobility...not so much.

I agree

But Hoth was a victory, as well as most other engagements it was in. If not for Luke the Empire may never have fallen. A shame how "The Last Jedi" treated the savior of the universe.

@@dugclrk A very costly victory. I always did wonder why they never flew the X-wings against the walkers. I mean, they'd be at least as fast as the speeders, not to mention they have shields and much heavier weapons. Be interesting to see how the armour dealt with proton torpedoes.

@@GoranXII My two cents is that that particular bit of tactical knowledge died of Scarif when Tarkin decided he'd had enough.

@@Scooternjng Possibly, but it should be fair much common sense.

They did fly X-Wings against them in the old X-Wing novels sometimes.

Smart man

That is a huge flaw in every CIS design. Virtually no reaction time. Why not have the weapons tied directly into the sensors? No fighters would ever get close.

Battle droids are junk anyway. And I'm not just talking the way Jedi whisk through them. No armor, no built in weapon, no built in comm, no initiative, no brains, take orders in "standard" English instead of high-speed digital burst second by second from an SBD or better. (SBD-😉!) Besides in every game I've played the E-11s are assembly line crap: if the Clones had been better armed and armored the BDs would have been spare parts piles waiting to happen. (I suppose the standard stormie rifle be good enough for guard duty but they should have been given serious firepower for going into battle. The US Army doesn't hand the soldier a common rifle when it's time to invade, they get powerful ones with armor-piercing rounds.)

If you have side and rear unites protecting you, then you’re good

The move slow in battle. That's why there not moving a 60 mph. They move slow because they still had to fire on the enemy. They act like Arty a little bit. Also the transport part was because of it having more room. There are other transports that where used more.

It's like comparing a bulldozer to a tank. Yes, they both have tracks, but their tracks are built to different specifications and standards

Don't forget the legs.

Like tanks, infantry with proper equipment can destroy it (combined arms warfare)

Can you imagine howich grief Hailfire droids would give AT-ATs?

Its weaker and has more vulnerable spots.

rear guns, 6 legs, 360 rotation mass driver cannon, can't trip with a cable since it's low to the ground, so what it's underside needs a little more armor. that's why there were typically infantry under neath. AT-AT inferior AT-TE superior as evidence by the rebels series where an older AT-TE was able to take on 2 or more AT-AT's and still survive long enough for air support to blast the last AT-AT, imagine if that AT_TE had been properly maintained or brand new..... plus that mass driver cannon can load many munition types. The AT-AT was built mostly for intimidation. The AT-TE was built for war.

@@sheilaolfieway1885 The AT-TE is inferior, the gunners are exposed, the main driver compartment is not armored at all, its like a GI Joe vehicle, in that the only parts protected are the vehicle components, but the actual crew driving it or the gunners have next to know protection. The AT-TE in the show only beat the AT-AT because another AT-AT was helping the AT-TE fight the AT-AT. Not only that but all you need is a Vibro lance to kill and AT-TE on a Hoover Bike.

captain Rex I agree

The AT TE may have its weak points but still it was better than this one.

The ground troops are like an inverted pinata. You shoot it, it comes to you, it scatters infantry all over your position, you have a bad day.

@@elijahsellers3727 Also with dedicated transports you want high capacity. You want to move a lot of soldiers from point A to point B in a given amount of time. Transport vehicles therefore tend to be cheap. They also aren't actually that much faster than the IFV's though. Transports are to reinforce the front taken by the tanks and IFV's so there is little point in them going faster.

Barry Bend Like a snowflake ?

TheKenjiStream Exactly

Barry Bend- What about a neck-injury?

A suicidal snow-speeder crew could have knocked on down, maybe.

arrow to the knee?

That was one of my favorite levels, the rebels really got screwed over when it comes to ground vehicles in that game.

Grim Knight So they should, nothing but scum after all.

@@solowingborders3239 Ha ha ha!

Bring back Rhen Var!

Actually, it was pretty easy to flank them with the rebel speeder tank. The down side was you then had to deal with usually 2 imperial tanks. They were devestaing though and could basically charge in as far as you wanted before being slowed down.

Fxxx HUMANITY! Long live Terrans!

Peter Yim have a twilek ever danced 4 u ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

@@tomcat7746 all I am saying Terrans have no Midi-chorians are WAY pure than Star Wars humans! Also nope.

Clone lives matter

@@pyeitme508 SO thats HOW MIDI works!

That's not true.

The snow speeders weren't that far off tho.

Some things were worse than others.

Well yeah, some guys came up with stuff that would look cool in a movie, they didn't expect loads of extended lore trying to explain everything and people taking it seriously 40 years later. That's what amazes me with the fans. It never was intended to be taken that seriously, but we end up witnessing olympic mental gymnastics trying to rationalize everything.

It works best against infantry. Everything with firepower and reach will kill this walking death trap.

I know it's been a year an all but if you're still interested, I'm listening

TorianTammas Such as? In the Star Wars universe? We’ve seen dedicated artillery emplacements fail to stop them in addition to various lesser types. I’d be happy to hear what you’re referring to. We already know Y-wings can destroy them- in multiple passes at that.

breaker dawn Surely! I’ll get to typing here soon!

@@Commander23c Alright I can't wait, I have always loved the AT AT .

Too bad the Empire had Palaptine as it's leader. He has the military mindset of Hitler and most of his military's weapons reflect this. And I see what you're getting from as a TX-225 as seen in Rouge one is much more suited for combat and patrols due to having a land speeder and tracked versions. It's much more low profile and faster than an AT-AT but much less intimidating and way easier to store. Not to mention smaller is cheaper and due to the Imperial doctrine (Quantity>Quality) you'd assume we'd have seen more TX-255's around. Then we remember the modern banana of doctrines; the Tarkin doctrine stated that large, big and hulking vehicles would be able to put rebellious systems and as a product we have the AT-AT, the Death Star, the Star Destroyer, so on. in Summary: Tarkin, it's Tarkin that's why

​@@jontheno3213 right, some of the empires designes are like the dick measuring contest between the soviet union and germany on steroids. just look at insane things likr the Ratte tank or the Mause. totally unpheasable wetdreams. the empires doctrine is pretty ineffective. I think someone like Thrawn would have shaped the empire in a way better way. unfortually I think may is contributed to the fact that little thought was put into the military pheasableness of the designes and that wery few or non developers at Lucas films actually put any logical thought into it, so that this needs to be justified by post edited Expandet universe lore. in my book, every fictional military should be co designed by a military dude. just ask the US army for one or two guys that know their shit how they would operate and design their stuff.

not only was palpatine a horrible war tatiction but there were other problems in the empire since he was spending a crap load of resources on his 'pet' death star, many high rankig officers had to 'fight' over his attention for the rest of the empires resources to get their projects done, as the limited resources left could only be spent on one project instead of many due to the 'pet' deathstar.

Tracked vehicles would work. But if u turned too sharp ur throwing the tracks and are taking heavy fire when u try to reallign them.

Tracked vehicles are good, the only thing better would be hovering tech which the star wars universe has

ImpFrenchy U wanted to say 1000 at least!

Start with ship designs like that horrific First Order dreadnought and the equally retarded Resistance bombers

Femitards and sjws being involved.

Flaw one. The whole movie.

10. It exists

There might be.

can't halfsword. no pommel.

Because science already did that

I'm certainly no Skallagrim or Metatron, but let's see what I can come up with. In no particular order... 1. Sparring practice can be hazardous or even deadly to everyone nearby 2. Cannot reliably block solid projectiles or grenades 3. The glow and hum make lightsabers impossible to use stealthily 4. Is a melee weapon that can run out of power 5. Cannot half-sword, meaning all striking and blocking power comes from the wrist 6. No quillons/wristguard (not that some other historical swords don't also have this limit...) 7. Center of gravity is halfway down the handle, making it easier for opponents to turn away the blade 8. Construction depends on some of the most closely-guarded secrets and rarest materials in the galaxy, making them expensive beyond measure 9. Activation is controlled by an unsecured thumb-switch, making negligent discharges a legitimate danger 10. Burns through opponents rather than slices, so wounds may be cauterized automatically and bleed much less; killing blows must therefore be instantly lethal How's that?

1) They encorage you to just stand there and let people shoot at you. NEVER do this. 2) They are extremely unsave to use in spaceships, with heavy machinery or near important structural supports. Its a wonder some padowan did not bring down the jedi temple by droping her saber in the place. 3) They are very bright, so they make you a target and ruin your night vision. They also let your opponents know to shoot you first. 4) They are very loud, meaning lets people know you are about at the same time as making it hard for you to hear if anyone is sneeking up on you. 5) Swords make deacent side arms. Jedi carry no other weapons. This is more a doctrine flaw and it comes up more on the battlefeild than in their other uses. 6) They quaterize the wound. Good and bad that but in a life and death battle against a superior opponent you want maximum lethality. You want a glancing blow to make your opponent bleed out. 7) They set things on fire. Do not use one in a coal mine, near a gas leak or in a wooden structure. 8 ) They are cumbersome and hard to manage. In close combat defense is king. Swords are well balanced so you can use it to defend yourself. Lightsabers handle more like axes and those you use with sheilds to protect yoursellf. you need the force to master lightsabers because you need the foresight to keep yourself alive inspite of how abysmal your weapon is in defense. 9) Sabers need to be recharged. Knives do not run out of stab. 10) Does anyone know what holding an unsheilded plasma torch day in day out does to you? Maybe this is the real reason why jedi arent supposed to have children.

The AT-AT is fine, besides the Walkers in Rogue 1 are not AT-Ats.

No, just upgrade it with better weapons or come up with better doctrines or tactics or increase its mobility

-Lack of legs 5 and 6 means it's a tippy boi

Advantages - Looks cool - looks intimidating - makes an impressive kill It has been designed to be killed.

Veers did too and Transfered a cadet who exposed the underside weakness to infantry assuring his death and the secret stay secret i think that's legends though. during one of the training courses on Carida, a promising Cadet named Davin Felth lowered his walker to its knees in order to prevent the opposing force from exploiting the weakness its long legs presented. The weakness threatened Veers's career, as it was so closely tied to the success of the walkers. Veers buried the incident by reassigning Felth to the infantry.

Repulsors cannot penetrate shields... so no battle of hoth if they used repulsors

@@sheilaolfieway1885 slower objects penetrate shields, plus they landed them after the shield came back up.

@@WolfeSaber9933 it is specifically stated that repulsorlift vehicles cannot go through shields.

@@sheilaolfieway1885 Where?

@@WolfeSaber9933 It's the reason the AATs couldn't advance with the droids in Ep. 1 against the Gungans. They're repulsor vehicles. However on Hoth this wasn't an issue as they were landed inside the shield, on the planet itself.

I don't think you should compare them to an M1 Abram. Rather I think a much better comparison is the M3 Bradley.

@@MrMarinus18 why and explain?

The best comparison if you want to get super technical is to the Israeli Merkava as that tank in some configurations has troop carrying ability.

@@rng_lord1276 GOOD IDEA!

Dude one blast from an atat and that tank is blown straight to hell

true but 386,510,000 people still use the imperial system

@@baconacorn473 And around 7,500,000,000 people dont

@@baconacorn473 imperials use the imperial system

@@baconacorn473 Barbarians

@@yalkn2073 that moment when not a single European country that uses the metric system has been to the moon