10 Huge Star Wars Plot Holes That Everyone Overlooks

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Never forget the Star Wars plot holes so big you could fly the Falcon through them.

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@SeasideDetective2
@SeasideDetective2 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure #1 is no plot hole. Vader wasn't able to sense who Luke was at first, and he WAS using the Force.
@petiteminish2863
@petiteminish2863 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention Leia didn't even know who she was at the time.
@StacieMMeier
@StacieMMeier Жыл бұрын
@@petiteminish2863 OK I throw one back at you, why didnt the emperor not sense her? Nor even know of her? Remember he was using the Dark Side to hunt down the remaining Jedi and any beings who could become strong in the force. Leia was strong in the force, as we learn, and the emperor would have sense her. Obi-Wan and Yoda likely were known to live just he didnt see them as a threat. They were old, Leia on the other hand was young. No way he never sensed her. She even was a representative of her planet and a princess and likely was even close to him a few times because of this office.
@yaboylucas2371
@yaboylucas2371 7 ай бұрын
@@StacieMMeiersame reason he couldn’t find or sense Obi-Wan before he turned old. Obi-Wan was still young in Revenge of the Sith Part of hunting down the Jedi was also erasing any information that could potentially be used to train other force sensitives.
@IggyStardust1967
@IggyStardust1967 Жыл бұрын
2:55 - Believe it or not, "Hiding in plain sight" works because "To assume the obvious is to overlook the obvious". This works with Leia, as well. Remember, Vader believed that his "child"(children) died with Padme'. He wasn't even looking for a child of his, because he had long believed the child(ren) dead. Also, Luke was in the "outer rim", where it was much less controlled by the Empire, despite their presence on the planet. Leia, on the other hand, was a Senator, and "daughter" of the royal house of Alderaan. Vader had absolutely no clue she was really his daughter (in universe, of course).
@murderofcrows5089
@murderofcrows5089 Жыл бұрын
For that matter a new hope takes place right after rouge one so when Vader met Leia he had a lot more pressing matters to deal with
@SeasideDetective2
@SeasideDetective2 Жыл бұрын
This was a plot hole created by the prequels. Originally, Owen Lars was not actually Luke's uncle, but Obi-Wan's brother PRETENDING to be Luke's uncle. The fact that Lucas made that change when there was no reason to do so still annoys me. And it's perfectly believable that Luke's legal surname would be "Skywalker" and not "Lars." Owen could easily have passed for his MOTHER'S brother.
@murderofcrows5089
@murderofcrows5089 Жыл бұрын
@@SeasideDetective2 if you have to look that far into it that’s not really a plot hole that’s LOOKING for one and if you can’t find one then use some details to make one
@sexobscura
@sexobscura Жыл бұрын
The powerful Force should've been an alert for him
@white-dragon4424
@white-dragon4424 Жыл бұрын
@@SeasideDetective2 It proves that he just didn't know what the hell he was doing. He just wrote any old garbage on a whim and sod continuity. After all, as he keeps saying, these are movies for babies and babies don't care for continuity, do they!
@thelethiferousmoose
@thelethiferousmoose Жыл бұрын
In the original book continuity, the answer to why droids in Jabba's palace felt pain, was that they were modified to feel pain in order to be tortured when they didn't do something.
@vic5015
@vic5015 Жыл бұрын
Seems reasonable.
@The_REDD_Driver
@The_REDD_Driver Жыл бұрын
Relatable
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile Жыл бұрын
My friend said the "droids" made noises, scream from the sounds of the wires, gears ⚙️. Not real pain. Jabba had them wear out, get reduced power. No emotion.
@thelethiferousmoose
@thelethiferousmoose Жыл бұрын
@@DavidLLambertmobile here's the exact quote from the original pre-disney novel Tales from Jabba's Palace (page 275) that originally explained it: "Ninedenine racked up the gain on her internal receptors, savoring the intensity of it all. She concentrated her meta-analytical functions on the high-frequency carrier wave generated by the pain-simulator button newly connected to the GNK's central circuits."
@viper1431
@viper1431 Жыл бұрын
But if they didn't do something it would be because they were programmed not to do it. That means they were programmed to be able to ignore commands at random times, and to feel pain for it. That's a lot of extra programming compared to the code simply saying "when told to do something, do it"
@wonderelk4prez706
@wonderelk4prez706 Жыл бұрын
As an answer to why the empire didn't fire at Yavin prime is because the first deathstar takes 12 hours to recharge its main weapon after firing on full power. So instead of giving the rebels 10 minutes to shoot the exhaust port, they would have given them 12 hours.
@Karolpa1138
@Karolpa1138 Жыл бұрын
If Vader just knew they have R2 with them, he would have never underestimated the rebels😂
@sheert
@sheert Жыл бұрын
When he says "I have you now!" in Ep 4 he is referring to R2 :)
@Karolpa1138
@Karolpa1138 Жыл бұрын
@@sheert 🤣
@Cyberleader672
@Cyberleader672 Жыл бұрын
I never understand why people think Vader should sense a familial connection to Leia. He didn't sense anything with Luke. When has familial connection ever shown to be something you can sense without any prior knowledge. And why does Luke escaping Hoth not make sense. He was escaping the planet with multiple other Rebel ships after the blockade was opened by the ion cannon. He also had a hyperdrive unlike the Millennium Falcon so what would have stopped him?
@p.c.windhamparanormalroman4339
@p.c.windhamparanormalroman4339 Жыл бұрын
Further more, the Imperial ships were landing "You may start your landing." So the blockade was not really in force very well.
@goatchumby
@goatchumby Жыл бұрын
Vader targeting Luke’s X-wing in ANH: The Force is strong with this one.
@Cyberleader672
@Cyberleader672 Жыл бұрын
@@goatchumby That's not family connection. Vader just knew he was strong with the Force. If he could sense he was family he wouldn't have tried to shoot him
@angelicalynn1259
@angelicalynn1259 Жыл бұрын
The plot hole is how did Luke get to his X-wing when he was behind enemy lines after taking down a walker.
@Cyberleader672
@Cyberleader672 Жыл бұрын
@@angelicalynn1259 He wasn't behind enemy lines. That was a small scout troop sent to destroy the shield generator. The rest of the army was attacking the rebel base which was miles away
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 Жыл бұрын
the basis of the rule of two as explained in an expanded universe novel was that large numbers of sith would be more likely to fight each other than cooperate against the Jedi, and the actual rule of two was "one to hold the power and one to crave it" with the expectation that when an apprentice became strong enough to overthrow his master, he should. - and in the ROTJ novelization it was pretty clear that Vader's intention was that Luke should help him kill the emperor so they could rule as father and son.
@kieran7675
@kieran7675 Жыл бұрын
And The Emperors plan was for Luke to kill Vader and replace him as the apprentice as Luke was stronger, right?
@ChiefDJS
@ChiefDJS Жыл бұрын
The rule of 2 is just lame and makes no sense. The idea that adherents to an ideology based on selfishness, hate and greed would be patient enough to be carry out a plan that took a thousand years to accomplish in which the majority would never live to see it and that at least one of these selfish, greedy people wouldn't just say "screw this, Im not going to train a guy thats just going to kill me someday" seems pretty absurd.
@spankflaps1365
@spankflaps1365 Жыл бұрын
If Vader had asked me to rule the universe with him, I would have snapped his hand off.
@countluke2334
@countluke2334 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't change the fact that the rule of 2 makes no sense. A system requiring the apprentice to kill the master all the time isn't superior to large numbers, even if that has the risk of internal struggles. New canon has created the Inquisitors as a kind of "lower rank Sith force", and below them the purge troopers, all with some kind of force/lightsaber skills, only to circumvent that problem. Further, it's ridiculous to assume that 2 people can defeat 10.000 (yes I know Palpatine did just that, but still). So why would the Sith limit themselves to that rule?
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 Жыл бұрын
@@countluke2334 it doesn't make sense to you because you're not a Sith. and I neglected to mention that the incident that led to the formation of the rule of two was the entire order of the Sith nearly killing themselves off because of an internal power struggle. but to make things more clear: the ideology of the sith is based on trying to become as powerful as possible. any good despot will tell you that the most important element of maximizing your power is to kill off your competition before they can kill you off.
@JonathonV
@JonathonV Жыл бұрын
I’m the first to admit that there are several plot holes in a universe as expansive as Star Wars, but not all of the ones in this list were in fact plot holes. Most of these have reasonable explanations. As you mentioned, the Rule of Two doesn’t make sense in terms of sustainability for the Sith, but Vader trying to recruit Luke isn’t a counterexample. On Endor, Vader specifically tells Luke that it’s Luke’s destiny to destroy the Emperor. Vader couldn’t detect that Leia was a family member because she didn’t know either. He only found out later by reading Luke’s active thoughts about her on the Death Star. I always assumed that Vader figured out that Luke was his son through other means. (Your point about Luke keeping his last name is valid, but that seems like more of a foolish decision by Owen and Beru than an impossibility.)
@Phoenix2312
@Phoenix2312 Жыл бұрын
I have always taken the view that Skywalker would be a common name - I find it very unlikely that in a Vast Universe that everyone would be named individually... Hell, I have a very unusual Surname myself - But I have found an entire group dedicated to Marris Family - and found almost 400 People show share my surname!!! I agree with you - Most of the list has a very reasonable explanation - They are often called plot holes because people refuse to use imagination... And that is NOT how Plot Holes work! A Plot Hole is when something DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS the Stories internal Logic... Few of these do!
@white-dragon4424
@white-dragon4424 Жыл бұрын
The "Rule of Two" doesn't work for, er, "two" reasons. Firstly, in ROTJ both Vader and the Emperor are in the very same room facing off against Luke, trying to convert him at the same time. If that rule existed during the making of ROTJ, then both of them would've been fully aware that the other would have to go in order to accept Luke as an ally. So why are they side by side trying to antagonise him together? Secondly, all, and I mean ALL, dictators in history have kept hold on power by having multiple henchmen doing their dirty work for them. They have them squabbling and fighting each other in order to get their leader's favour, whilst all the time continually looking over their shoulders. That way they don't have time to threaten the leader's hold on power.
@brutalityfatality
@brutalityfatality Жыл бұрын
@@white-dragon4424 Vader wants be the Emperor (and have Luke as his Robin) and Sidious wants Luke as a apprentice,simple
@matthewrosenthal753
@matthewrosenthal753 Жыл бұрын
Vader only detected that Luke had a sister not who she was until he appears as a force ghost and likely realizes that Leia can see them as well. Also he only senses Luke is strong with the force when Luke uses it to help him destroy the first Death Star. It’s not until he finds out the rebel pilot’s name that any family connection is revealed. Leia is always known as Leia Organa. She actively avoided the association outside of Luke for years.
@Phoenix2312
@Phoenix2312 Жыл бұрын
@@white-dragon4424 I have always taken the view that Palpatine was well aware of the "Rule of 2" but now he was in charge, he was changing the rules to suit his own motives... That's just one theory! As for your own argument about the Rule of 2... It does not work! Vader wanted Luke to Join HIM and KILL the Palp[atine, While Palpatine simply wanted to convert Luke or see him destroyed by Vader's hand... In both cases, Either Luke or Vader would have to have KILLED one of the Three maintaining a "Rule of 2" That is made VERY, VERY Clear in ROTJ which means you are being disingenuous.
@daveb947
@daveb947 Жыл бұрын
About Luke escaping Hoth, he's also in a small single person fighter. The Empire was focusing on the transports and where they were going and no doubt ignored most small targets.
@Pepcharge
@Pepcharge Жыл бұрын
Lets not forget the fact that Uncle Owen literally bought a droid that used to be on his farm 26ish years earlier. C3PO followed Shmee Skywalker to Lars' farm while Owen very much living there. C3PO ends up leaving with Anakin and padme and decades later, C3PO returns and is captured by jawas who then sell him BACK to Owen and owen just suddenly has no idea who the droid is?
@jasons5916
@jasons5916 Жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan doesn't recognize them either even though he spent a lot of time with them.
@wolfofthewest8019
@wolfofthewest8019 Жыл бұрын
Protocol droids all look the same. Owen was probably like "Hey, I used to have a droid like that. Damn useful, think I'll buy another one since Anakin ran off with mine."
@shadowman7307
@shadowman7307 Жыл бұрын
I figured Leia remembered Padmé with the Force, unknowingly. As Yoda tells Luke on Dagobah; "Through the Force, things you will see. Other places. The future, the past. Old friends long gone."
@ThomasMHead
@ThomasMHead Жыл бұрын
There's zero reason to expect Vader to sense any familial connection to Leia, or Luke, for that matter. Simply having the Force--or any form of telepathy/clairvoyance in fiction--does not grant omniscience. Force users have to actively probe another person's mind to extract information. If the person doesn't know something (like Leia having no idea who her real father was), that information can't be found. And as Vader still believed his child died along with Padme, that thought wouldn't even enter his mind as a possibility. At most, Vader may have sensed that Leia has an unusually strong mind and spirit, perhaps indicating a strong untapped connection to the Force. This would intrigue him further, but there's no reason this should cause him to recognize her as family. Vader only recognized Obi-Wan's presence because of their shared history.
@countluke2334
@countluke2334 Жыл бұрын
And he didn't sense Luke being his son, but he was told, that information being acquired by somebody for some reason. He found about Leia by reading Luke's mind/feelings.
@yaboylucas2371
@yaboylucas2371 7 ай бұрын
The Rule of Two makes sense because in Return of the Jedi The emperor tells Luke to take his father’s place. Vader also tells Luke to destroy the Emperor. The Sith always betray each other.
@joenesvick7043
@joenesvick7043 Жыл бұрын
Vader thought his child was dead. Even if he felt force sensitivity from Leia, that doesn't mean they're related Vader wanted Luke without the Emperor, the Emperor wanted Luke without Vader, rule of two can still apply Vader thought his child was dead and Anakin swore he'd never return to Tatooine and totally hates sand. He even tells that Commander to see to the retrieval of the Death Star plans because he didn't want to set foot there himself 🙄 If the Death Star destroyed Yavin Prime, the Death Star would've taken a while to recharge. First Death Star required that Rey had quite the force flashback in Force Awakens, the Obi-Wan Kenobi show would've been the perfect time to show something similar with Leia, they need to do something else with her depicting that so fans can finally shut up about this lol 😝. Leia also said she always knew Luke was her brother, she must remember him too. Breha Organa died when the Death Star destroyed Alderaan, so kinda hard for the memory to be involving her (and Luke asked about Leia's REAL mother). It wouldn't be the only "plot hole" in Return of the Jedi, Threepio says Chewbacca never returned from Jabba's palace and then the Wookiee shows up after the droid
@sherwinkentpajomunoz2521
@sherwinkentpajomunoz2521 Жыл бұрын
Anakin mother killed by sand people sand joke not that funny dumbass
@Ice43Man
@Ice43Man Жыл бұрын
He wasn’t able to sense that Luke was his son either. It wasn’t until the Emperor told him that the “rebel who destroyed the Death Star” was the Son of Anakin Skywalker that he knew that. He only sensed that the force was strong with Luke, which he also likely sensed with Leia too. Just because he didn’t comment on it doesn’t make it a plot hole The rule of two isn’t that there can only be two, it’s that there always is at least two. A Master, an Apprentice Obi-Wan’s decisions when hiding Luke are character decisions and they don’t make a plot hole just cause you disagree with them. Tatooine was not under the rule of the Empire and no one there even knew that Anakin Skywalker became a Jedi or that he was Darth Vader. Anakin was a slave during his time on Tatooine. No one still alive even knew whole he was You’re talking about a fictional fuel source and just because earth based fuels might evaporate over time, doesn’t mean this fuel does. Also the decision to not drain it is again, a character choice, not a plot hole The Empire wasn’t trying to destroy any and every planet they could find. As the ruling power in the Galaxy, they knew that even they had limits and couldn’t just go around destroying entire planets that contained unique eco-systems and potential unique minerals and natural resources. That’s why they only destroyed the city of Jedah in Rogue One instead of the entire planet. Also, they destroyed Alderaan both as a punishment to Leia and because they suspected it of a being a Rebel safe planet The Galaxy didn’t forget about the Jedi, the recent shows and other media that take place between ROTS and ANH clearly show the surviving Jedi as active and that the rebels were even helping them. When Ben says to Luke, I was once a Jedi Knight like your father, Luke doesn’t act confused as to what a Jedi is. Also, the inquisitors were seen killing people for over information about wanted Jedi so most people felt the need to keep quiet about the topic in general The Empire’s star ships were disabled by the ion cannons. What? We’re again talking about a fictional universe with tech beyond our wildest dreams. That would be like saying the magic the Asguardians use in the MCU - which has been implied multiple times is actually just a very advanced technology - that it’s a plot hole because there’s nothing comparable in the real world. You have no idea the type of sensations or emotions that can be synthesized and since you aren’t the creator of the universe you don’t get to dictate as such. Disagreeing with a particular tech doesn’t make it a plot hole Leia could easily have force Spence memories of Padme from the moment she was born. She says she was very beautiful but sad and Padme literally dies of sadness in that moment His original deal with Lando was that he was going to let Leia and Chewy go. He didn’t disable the Falcon entirely because it would have shown his hand to Lando earlier than he wanted
@jamescaylor6864
@jamescaylor6864 Жыл бұрын
My explanation for Leia remembering her "mother" is that it was Padme's body double coming to see her when she was very little
@captaincrunch784
@captaincrunch784 Жыл бұрын
Maybe she was a vision? A plot hole they could fix in a Disney + show somehow
@niceguy169
@niceguy169 Жыл бұрын
I've understood the "Rule of Two" as being "They come in twos", as in "We found a Sith, where's the other?" Not to mean there's 2 TOTAL. Recognizing Leia: As far as he knew, Padme died in childbirth. He had no reason to keep an eye out, and force powers weren't activated in Leia. Luke, on the other hand, had his force powers awakened in him before Vader encountered and identified him during the trench run. It's so odd to feel the force that he took a deeper peek, and ended up discovering the familial connection (perhaps even last minute during their fight on Cloud City). Or perhaps he sensed memories of Luke's home, of Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru and recognized some of it/them. Hiding Luke on Tatooine, I would guess Anakin had enough trauma - childhood slavery, then ripped away from his mom for years, then she got kidnapped and tortured to death, initiating the rage that led to him slaughtering the whole tribe - that he wasn't interested in visiting. Also he considered it a crappy place of nothing. The Empire seemed rather absent until they were looking for the droids they were looking for. :) I figure they didn't blow up Yavin prime because 1) It probably would take AGES to recharge after one shot to then shoot the Rebels. You seem of the opinion that shooting Yavin Prime would destroy the other planet, that isn't THAT guaranteed, and 2) They enjoyed the menacing approach, torture them in anticipation first. "Playing with their food" as it were, they were convinced they had the upper hand and there was no hurry. Luke's escape from Hoth: I have twin theories. 1) That they had been forgetting something that Family Guy's version pointed out: Space is 3 Dimensional. There's no such thing as a blockage, just go some other direction, and that's what Luke did/remembered. 2) (Newly formed right now) That Luke was EXTREMELY later, enough that the Empire figured everybody left, the Falcon was the last out, LET'S GO! And Luke left after that, a lone straggler in the back. Or a combination of both of these. Here's one you missed. The Sith are CLEARLY a vast minority, whichever version of the Rule Of Two you go with. The Jedi are so plentiful they have a ruling council. WHY would anybody believe a prophesized "Balance to the force" would be a Light Side Jedi instead of the understaffed Dark Side Sith???!?!? How is adding to the majority any kind of "balance"? Someone extremely powerful to the minority, THAT feels more like balance!
@jasons5916
@jasons5916 Жыл бұрын
WRT Yavin Prime, the Death Star might have taken longer to recharge for a second shot than it would take to go around the planet. It's not clear that shooting through it like the video suggests would work since gas giants aren't transparent. Also blowing it up first would create a lot of debris that might interfere with the second shot. I think the main criticism here is that the Death Star came out of hyperspace on the wrong side of the planet or when the moon was on the wrong side of the planet and lost the element of surprise.
@michaelrue1400
@michaelrue1400 Жыл бұрын
As I understand it, the rule of two was instituted because a Sith Lord who had three or four apprentices was killed when they ganged up on him, so to prevent that from happening again, each master could only have one apprentice. And since no Sith master would consider another his equal, they fought each other for supremicy until only one was left.
@patriciadurio562
@patriciadurio562 Жыл бұрын
In the novelization, when the movie first came out, there were four paragraphs explaining how she remembered their mother. Flash forward 10 or so years and with the re-release of the original movies they also re marketed the novels. Surprise (Mandela effect has once again snatched away something I very distinctly remember) there is no longer any mention of this in the book.
@evanthompson6503
@evanthompson6503 Жыл бұрын
Its so annoying how many ppl coddle the prequels and try so flippin hard to try and prove its not dogwater. But all the plot holes rly get to me
@thestarwarsroom4450
@thestarwarsroom4450 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered about Leia saying she remembered her mother and how she was able to since never actually seeing her
@pocketfarts
@pocketfarts Жыл бұрын
Leia was originally intended to be the older sister, the twins thing came outta nowhere and was never part of the plan. Well there never really was a plan either but at least he tried.
@harrowmarty3
@harrowmarty3 Жыл бұрын
They fixed that in the new kenobi series: obi wan tells leia what was her mother like
@pastjdzz
@pastjdzz Жыл бұрын
Maybe something about the force? Yoda did beleive she was the next chosen one
@matija1549
@matija1549 Жыл бұрын
@@pocketfarts Obi Wan told Luke in ROTJ: "Your twin sister"
@Tora-no-shi
@Tora-no-shi 3 ай бұрын
​@@harrowmarty3 that is not the same as the way she says it in ROTJ. The truth is that Lucas had planned to have their mother in hiding with Leia. He changed it like he changed a lot of things over writing the story. Luke and Leia were not siblings until he wrote ROTJ.
@luchagain3424
@luchagain3424 Жыл бұрын
Remember when using your imagination wasn’t a plot hole?
@yaboylucas2371
@yaboylucas2371 7 ай бұрын
Leia remembering her mother is not a plot hole because she even says that somehow she knew Luke was her brother and that’s through the force. She only remembers images and feelings? What feelings? That’s obviously through the force. Also makes no sense as to why Luke’s and Leia’s mother would agree to give up her son even if it’s from protection. Makes no sense as to why Luke wouldn’t even remember her because a mother would at least try to communicate with her son. The force works in mysterious ways.
@raph1212
@raph1212 Жыл бұрын
Vader saw his mother die, gets his hand cut off, killed his wife, gets his second hand and legs cut off by his master, tortured his daughter, kills his ex master, froze his son in law in carbonite and cuts of lukes hand
@garymussell6543
@garymussell6543 Жыл бұрын
The rule of two holds if you remember Vader told Luke at the end of ESB that they could rule the universe as father and son, so Vader was planning on killing the emperor.
@leejohnstone4663
@leejohnstone4663 Жыл бұрын
The reason Leia can remember her real mother in Return of the Jedi and then Padma dying in childbirth in Revenge of the Sith is because George Lucas Did Not write the original trilogy by himself. But he did write the prequels on his own which explains the plot holes
@Historicutuber
@Historicutuber Жыл бұрын
This was a great video. I always wondered some of these
@missylongbottom2064
@missylongbottom2064 Жыл бұрын
One of the biggest plot holes is why doesn't anyone remember the druids. Vader actually built 3PO and R2 was his astromech for years.
@sherwinkentpajomunoz2521
@sherwinkentpajomunoz2521 Жыл бұрын
Anakin dumbass
@sciguyjeff
@sciguyjeff Жыл бұрын
A couple of things - since Leia did not know she was related to Vader and Vader, as far as he knew, had no children, he probably had nothing to pick up on to think of a connection. As far as Luke getting off Hoth, it looks like his group was the last to leave and the star destroyers were most likely to go off after capital ships and not little fighter craft.
@markleach2936
@markleach2936 Жыл бұрын
If they had made Leia the older twin there could have been some consistency since there was a small moment between Padmé and the first win born. Just a thought
@oliverlewis3126
@oliverlewis3126 Жыл бұрын
I feel like this is just a plot hole, but maybe if leia’s connection to the force is stronger than Luke’s it could be possible
@jeffchavez6762
@jeffchavez6762 Жыл бұрын
The Leia remembering her mom has driven me nuts since the first time I saw revenge of the sith
@tvvistedv3nom26
@tvvistedv3nom26 Жыл бұрын
Could literally just be from force visions of the past that she thinks are dreams and the feeling of her being sad could be how she felt when he was born since anakin turned to the dark side
@vic5015
@vic5015 Жыл бұрын
In regard to #1 on this list, there's also the fact that Vader *owned* R2 as Anakin. The prequels pretty clearly established R2 as being *his* Droid. He should be pretty familiar with what R2 can and cannot do. Obviously, that I'd all in retrospect.
@mecha53107
@mecha53107 Жыл бұрын
For the Vader not recognizing Leia plot hole, Palpatine led Vader to believe that Luke and Leia died when Padme gave birth. It would make sense Vader not recognizing Leia as his daughter because, prior to the events of Empire Strikes Back, Vader was unaware that his kids were alive. Also, Luke and Leia were named by Padme when she gave birth, and Vader wasn't there, so how would he know his kids names?
@JustinTheClaw
@JustinTheClaw Жыл бұрын
I love how the answers to pretty much all of these plot holes are either "because the writers hadn't thought of it yet," or "because the plot called for it," proving that, despite Lucas and Lucasfilm's best efforts, they've always been just making Star Wars up as they went along.
@covagotnextgaming
@covagotnextgaming 5 ай бұрын
Great video, bro! 🙏👏
@solrachernandez3389
@solrachernandez3389 Жыл бұрын
The reason why they didn't fire at Yavin Prime is because it needed time to recharge. The Death Star uses a Kyber Crystal as it's main source of power. However, it can't fire continuously at least not until the Second Death Star where the Empire made some improvements.
@WalletWorrier
@WalletWorrier Жыл бұрын
And it wouldn't "penetrate through" but instead just heat up Yavin Prime. Turbolasers (or even real lasers) can't just pass through a planet unhindered, even a gaseous one.
@countluke2334
@countluke2334 Жыл бұрын
Yes, and there was no rush. Tarkin didn't consider the Rebels a threat, so why bother? I never thought this one to be any plothole, at all.
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile Жыл бұрын
DS2 was much larger & by improved designs could hit command ships, other space vessels not just planets.
@DAYNURSERY
@DAYNURSERY Жыл бұрын
Plus the Death Star would have trouble lining up the shot and the beam could be reflected by the gas giant's atmosphere.
@moad5771
@moad5771 Жыл бұрын
bro has the audacity to call this a star wars channel when he clearly has no clue wth hes on about
@beckycrafts887
@beckycrafts887 Жыл бұрын
I agree this channel is a shitshow
@dunsterolecat
@dunsterolecat Жыл бұрын
I agree what a rubbish channel
@gtav7655
@gtav7655 Жыл бұрын
I agree too
@kissingmymouth6963
@kissingmymouth6963 Жыл бұрын
They should delete the channel all there stuff is crap
@phillmecrakkin7768
@phillmecrakkin7768 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you @moad they don’t know shit
@vitorsousa8172
@vitorsousa8172 Жыл бұрын
I think some plot holes are only cause we having a rigid interpretation of dialogues and events. 1) Vader failing to see that Leia was his daughter, seems quite okay. He had no reason to think he had sons, probably the emperor influence would make vader even more blind for family ties. I think that Leia and Vader had already seen eachother before episode IV, afterall she was a daughter of an high member of the senate. 2) The Jedi being forgotten, depends of what it is in 1st place. The Jedi were very much exterminated with order 66. The survivors ran away to faraway systems, for they common people they did dissapear. Yet, there were a resistance group against the emperor, maybe they were not that quite forgottern afterall
@dylna_5471
@dylna_5471 Жыл бұрын
With the first plot hole about darth Vader not sensing the fact that Leia is his daughter what if he could sense it and decided to ignore it so he can continue the plan for the Death Star and the growth of the empire
@terrihill9006
@terrihill9006 2 ай бұрын
Leia: they let us go too easy. They’re tracking us. Han: Not this ship, Sister. And they’re being tracked.
@BilSande4
@BilSande4 10 ай бұрын
I know this comment is a year late, but to me the biggest plot hole in Star Wars was is in Episode IV (A New Hope). Right after Luke, Leia, and Han escape from the the Death Star aboard the Millennium Falcon, Leia says to Han (and I paraphrase) "their escape was too easy and that the Empire must be tracking them". Then they proceed to head directly to the super secret hidden rebel base. Now, if Leia knew they were being tracked, or even if she strongly suspected it, then why would she lead them right to where they wanted to go?? She actually let her own home planet be destroyed rather than reveal the location of the base. So to then risk leading the Empire there herself makes no sense whatsoever. Did she suddenly become an idiot? I know she felt it was important to get the plans to the other rebels quickly, but they could have stayed far from the base and tried to look for the tracker that the Empire placed in the Falcon. Or they could have ditched the Falcon and taken another ship to the base. Or basically anything rather than immediately going there with the Empire hot on their trail. That plot hole has always bugged the hell out of me. If Lucas had just not had her say that, and just had Leia be as unaware as anyone else that they were being tracked, that would have solved the problem.
@terrihill9006
@terrihill9006 2 ай бұрын
Exactly! This always bugged me. She tells them and Han says “Not this ship, Sister “
@sarrjel
@sarrjel Жыл бұрын
In early interviews George Lucas worked on and completed the early drafts of the plot details episodes 1-9 a few years before the movies were filmed. The plot holes of Leia and Luke can be explained that Leia was initially not going to be Luke's sister. It was the last minute change in Return of the Jedi that Lucas changed his mind and made her a sibling of Luke. Vader not knowing Leia was his daughter can be explained that Vader probably didn't even think about it and Leia had no knowledge of the Force. If she had Vader would've picked up on it. As far as Luke Skywalker not changing his last name. I don't think anyone on Tatooine really cared or put it together that Luke was Vader or Anikan's son and Darth Vader was busy going after rebels, ex Jedi, even killing his own officers to really care. In Revenge of the Sith he was told that Padme was dead and the child to. So, if you think about it he became very bitter and angry about his past and did t want anything to do with Uncle Owen and aunt Buru. I'd you can program a droid to laugh and make up jokes. You can program them to scream in pain, that nothing new.
@justinhedges4607
@justinhedges4607 Жыл бұрын
Before I watch this video I can guarantee at least a couple of these can be explained by the force
@Yesterdays.Answers1217
@Yesterdays.Answers1217 Жыл бұрын
Rule of two makes sense. Apparently after the prequels the rule of one began. This means the apprentices are always re0aced and don’t matter
@Lord_Aussem
@Lord_Aussem 8 ай бұрын
I can understand an X-Wing making it past the blockade. It's a small fighter sized craft. It was the transports that needed the help. But I always wondered how Luke got to his X-Wing after the battle of Hoth. His speeder crashed behind enemy lines, he takes down an AT-AT, and then next time we see him he's back at echo base getting on his X-Wing. Either he got picked up by someone or he teleported. But we never see that happen. But none of that matters because the story is so good and you're so invested that you don't really notice stuff like that unless you've seen it a hundred times.
@briannab.1712
@briannab.1712 9 ай бұрын
I always assumed that Leia had a connection to her mother through the force. After all she has feelings and images of her mother, she never mentions actual memories. These could even be remembered from before Leia was born and she specifically remembers the sadness her mother felt.
@mikesgroi21
@mikesgroi21 Жыл бұрын
I always felt Vader didn’t recognize Leia as his daughter because he didn’t know he had one. He had no feelings for her as daughter so there was no connection through the force. In ROTJ, he discovers he has a daughter when he reads Luke’s feelings.
@TokyoXtreme
@TokyoXtreme Жыл бұрын
What about Vader’s offer to Luke to “join me and together we can end this destructive conflict”, which means kill the Emperor and “rule the galaxy as father and son”. Later, on Endor, Luke comes to Vader, but Vader conveniently forgets all about that plan - even though it’s somewhat alluded to in a cut scene from the beginning of ROTJ.
@WilbertBeltman
@WilbertBeltman Жыл бұрын
As more and more star wars things come out that take place between episode 3 and 4 featuring Jedi, the plothole of people forgetting all about the jedi making less and less sense
@deepinthought2329
@deepinthought2329 Жыл бұрын
You know I just had a thought seeing the thumbnail. In the video game fallen order, it's reveled that some force users can see the history of things through the force. Padme was Bail Organa's closest known friend, and she would have surely been to his home before. What if Leia has that ability and without knowing that she's force sensitive, saw her mother, and mistook them for memories?
@jewsco
@jewsco Жыл бұрын
In 19 years we forget a lot . Ask kids about video cassettes, I pods , cameras and film developing , AOL etc… people move on pretty quickly
@ionelneagu3483
@ionelneagu3483 9 ай бұрын
I clearly remember the Emperor saying: "Take your father,'s place, by my side ".That means, is the end for Vader. On the other hand, let's not forget Count Dooku. Was killed by Anakin, the future Darth Vader.
@MikefromTexas1
@MikefromTexas1 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I wonder if the people writing these lists actually know anything about Star Wars past film-level. Also, how is pain strictly human??
@SUPA_K76
@SUPA_K76 Жыл бұрын
Regarding the Jedi being forgotten: 1) The Jedi were outlawed and made to look like they tried to overthrow the senate, so one could imagine the thought of them was not a good one, and add in that ol Paly probably threw in a bunch of propaganda to make the denizens of the galaxy look with a side eye at the Jedi 2) There weren't that many Jedi to begin with, especially for a galaxy so big, one could imagine that in some parts of the galaxy even at the height of the Jedi order they were regarded as legends or tales...just theories PEACE
@ultradeathboy
@ultradeathboy Жыл бұрын
Except things like Jedi fallen order and the new Kenobi show shows that a lot of people still believed the Jedi to be good. In fact for things like rebels, the bad batch, and the end of the clone wars TV show,Amy clones still believed the Jedi to be good even though they are told the Jedi are treasonous. The bad batch is a perfect example of this. The entire team wen tag isn't order 66 because they didn't believe the Jedi were evil. "I don't consider executing our commanders as an order" said hunter, but cross hair chose to stay with the empire even though he fought for the jedi, and he wasn't controlled by the inhibitor chips, that's just what he believes. So no it doesn't make sense. Many people still believed in the heid even after their destruction. The Kenobi show is another good example, at the beginning of the first episode the Jedi who dies was taken in by a bar owner because he helped the owner. Even though Jedi were fugitives the owner still helped the Jedi and offers him shelter. And prauf at the beginning of fallen order:"I've always said they couldn't all be traitors" and then prauf keeps your identity secret even after he finds out your a Jedi. There's so many examples of people not believing in the lies of the empire
@lucahermann3040
@lucahermann3040 Жыл бұрын
7:53 maybe Obi-Wan did a Vulcan mind meld off-screen when Leia asked him about her real mother during "Kenobi", thus giving her real memories of padme.
@jukebox1138
@jukebox1138 Жыл бұрын
The droids are programmed to express what we would perceive as pain so their owners would know they are in distress
@aarons.8161
@aarons.8161 Жыл бұрын
I have bit of a theory for at least two of these. 1. The Rule of Two does in a way actually make sense, at least when it comes to the Sith. This is also explained in the EU. It works in that every Sith works to undermined and ultimately destroy each other. So to limit this risk of being killed to early or even unexpectedly due to divided attention between multiple apprentices, a Sith Lord or Master only ever has 1 Apprentice. As for what would have happened if Luke did join his father and become Vaders apprentice? Likely the very thing Vader said to Luke. They would work together to take out Palpatine and rule the galaxy as father and son. Aka, Master and Apprentice. 2. Why the Death Star didn't simply shoot through Yavin Prime to destroy Yavin 4. This I have a few theories for. First off, trying to shoot through an Opaque would have a high probability of missing the target on the other side. Second, being a gas giant, their would be a number of possible outcomes from firing a super heated laser through it. Either: A: The laser gets disrupted or dispersed by what ever chemicals, clouds, radiation, ect. the gas giant is made of. B: The potential gravity well in the gas giant could theoretically (We have yet to see or hear of any bullet/laser drop is Star Wars, but is still a possibility) end up curving and/or redirecting the Death Stars beam towards an unintended target. Possibly even slingshoting it back at the Death Star itself. C: The fact they would be shooting a super heated laser through a planet sized ball of gas. And what happens when a super heated substance meets something as explosively combustible as gas? Suffice to say, yeah, that would have taken out Yavin 4, along with Yavin Prime and pretty much anything within perhaps a hundred or so lightyears (may be over estimating, never really bothered learning space math) as Yavin Prime lights up like a Sun going supernova
@wallacelang1374
@wallacelang1374 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to Leia remembering her mother I figured that she either had seen some recordings of Padme's communications or was speaking of Queen Amidala as if she were her mother. Otherwise the screenwriters had been cramming to come up with something when they had nothing.
@masonb9788
@masonb9788 Жыл бұрын
Vader said to Luke “together we can destroy the Emperor” - he didn’t want them to be a “trio”
@TwoPair72
@TwoPair72 Жыл бұрын
Missed a few. 1. How it is when the Imperial Walkers on Hoth withstood a blaster shot from the armor being too thick and when Luke caused it to trip up, they were able to blow it up? 2. Luke uses a cable to ratchet up to the bottom of one, cut it open and drops. He is good 10 to 15 floors high and it should had broken his legs. 3. R2-D2 has been around since Obi- Wan was young. He should have recognized him.
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile Жыл бұрын
I agree with the Luke, AT AT jump. I said that in the 1980s too, as a kid. Unless Luke used "Force" power to glide down.
@numbdigger9552
@numbdigger9552 4 ай бұрын
@@DavidLLambertmobile There is a lot of snow though. If you've ever fallen from a tree in thick snow you'd know it doesn't hurt much, and that combined with him being somewhat of a jedi should be well enough.
@bradw317
@bradw317 7 ай бұрын
Also like to note in the entire original Trilogy R2 and Vader never saw each other face to face, Vader did shoot R2 in 'A New Hope' but that was hardly face to face. However a major plot hole would like to point out is C3PO was bound to Chewie's back during Han's carbon freezing scene and speaking throughout. Anakin would have been able recognize the droid's voice and probably even recognize the droid itself as the one he created as it was shown in comics. So why didn't Vader question the reason for Threepio being with Leia, this kind of coincides with the one where Vader never sensed his familial connection with Leia.
@katemaloney4296
@katemaloney4296 Жыл бұрын
When I read the ROTJ novel in 1983, the impression I got was that Leia's mother actually lived for a couple of years with Leia on Alderaan and died when [Leia] was around 2. Since Leia grew up KNOWING she was adopted (Timothy Zahn made reference to this in "Heir To The Empire"), it made sense. However, in ROTS, the director made it a point to show Padme and Leia making deep eye contact, whereas Luke kept his eyes tightly closed. Leia had a deeper connection to her mother in those moments and the Force kept that memory for her. At least, this is what I believe.
@HideousSideous
@HideousSideous Жыл бұрын
I read somewhere with the rule of two, palpatine was planning on ditching Vader because of his imperfectness (his suit) and that Luke would be a better sith
@p.c.windhamparanormalroman4339
@p.c.windhamparanormalroman4339 Жыл бұрын
I always thought the whole "Leia remembers her mother through the Force" thing was just a cop out.
@someguy2798
@someguy2798 Жыл бұрын
The reason that the empire didn’t fire on yavin prime is because the superlaser would have to charge up again giving the rebels time to destroy it
@reginaldbrown1073
@reginaldbrown1073 Жыл бұрын
Which brings up another hole from rogue one. The death star has light engines. Why not stop the station closer to the planet and without an obstruction.
@boyankovachev7982
@boyankovachev7982 Жыл бұрын
So, no one is going to point out that #6 is "Why didn't the Empire shot a highly ionised energy beam at a gas giant?" Like, a planet destroying superweapon would, most likely, trigger a chain reaction that will turn Yavin Prime into a star. And, yes, this would destroy the rebels, but it will also destroy the Death Star itself too. I love Jules and know that he didn't write the script, so it's not his fault that the writer doesn't really understand physics. One love ❤️ P.S. Jules is great and I absolutely love him and his content. As much as I love his mom too. That's your one per comment. (If you know, you know, if you don't, don't worry about it.)
@paulmcghee6160
@paulmcghee6160 Жыл бұрын
I don't think an ionised beam would be energetic enough to actually begin nuclear fusion in the planet. Remember, ionisation and redox reactions are purely chemical. These reactions don't normally provide enough energy to 'overcome' the strong force in the nucleus. I could be wrong though, as this is a universe with magic space wizards and plasma swords.
@sw-gs
@sw-gs Жыл бұрын
There only 10 000 Jedi during Clone War for Quadrillions of beings in galaxy. Some never heard of Jedi and for some they were a myth. It is also important to know that Jedi was one of thousands of religions that belive in The Force. Only Jedi were most influential due to involving into politics.
@cjames9320
@cjames9320 Жыл бұрын
As for the rule of 2, which was never meant to be taken literally, do you not recall when Sidious tried convincing Luke to kill Vader? This would still leave 2, but still it's likely just a general rule
@pipepicasso8112
@pipepicasso8112 Жыл бұрын
Plus, Vader wanted Luke to join him and destroy the Emperor.
@ericsonofjames4573
@ericsonofjames4573 Жыл бұрын
I really thought in the Obi Wan series, he was going to Jedi some images of Padme into Leias brain so she knew what her mother looked like. A little “gift” when they say goodbye.
@Matt_Villines
@Matt_Villines Жыл бұрын
Everyone also overlooks Vader’s helmet about to fly off during his reveal in Empire. The toy helmet did that too.
@TheCkent100
@TheCkent100 Жыл бұрын
11. In the beginning of "Return of the Jedi", we see C-3PO and R2D2 approaching Jabba's palace. R2 whistles and tweets, to which 3PO responds "Of course I'm worried. And you should be too. After all Lando Calrissian and Chewbacca never returned from this place". Yet, when they get into Jabba's palace, we see that Lando is there, disguised as a palace guard. But, Chewy does not arrive until later, as Leia's prisoner.
@Richardblue1963
@Richardblue1963 Жыл бұрын
1. Vader didn't know his child was alive, let alone that Padme had twins. You can't recognize what you never knew existed 2. The rule of two makes a load of sense. The Sith just bend it a lot 3. Obi-Wan hid Luke very well. Why would Vader return to a planet (one planet out of billions mind you) which causes him so much pain? Its perfect 4. The DT does not count. 5. The Death Star either didn't have the ability to accurately fire through things blindly, or firing into a gas giant could've had a cataclysmic outcome of some kind 6. The Jedi weren't forgotten. In the OT, Han and the Imperials outright talk about the Jedi, they just don't believe in the Force. This is simply people not paying attention to the films, and Disney creating misconceptions by being stupid. 7. The Imperial fleet mostly left Hoth, allowing Luke to slip by unnoticed. As Vader was chasing down the Falcon, probably assuming Luke was inside the Freighter, rather than a random X-wing 8. Thats not a plot-hole. Droids probably feel pain as a means to show they're at their limits or that somethings wrong. 9. If Anakin could 'see things before they happen' as a child, then perhaps Leia had a vivid memory. This isn't really a plot hole. 10. Vader only did the Hyperdrive because he wanted to trap the Falcon in the Executor's tractor-beam, so the heroes had no means of escape. Not a plot hole.
@g-manfreezer1998
@g-manfreezer1998 Жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, Vader didn’t know Luke was his son until after A New Hope. So that plot hole is kind of redundant. In Vader’s (as of now) canon comic line, Boba Fett is the one who gives him the news that Luke’s last name is Skywalker, and Vader realises that he’s his son. So it’s perfectly fine that Vader didn’t realise that Leia wasn’t his daughter.
@michellecrocker2485
@michellecrocker2485 Жыл бұрын
10 always bugged me as is Luke skywalker’s lack of sad when his aunt and uncle died. I mean, dude! They RAISED you! Give us some tears!
@Pal0418
@Pal0418 Жыл бұрын
There are no plot holes, everything goes as I’ve planned it…as always hahahaha
@ducklinsenmayer7681
@ducklinsenmayer7681 Жыл бұрын
RE: Yavin prime. It's not a laser, it's a plasma bolt. Which would have exploded, upon hitting the planet's atmosphere. They are only called 'lasers' or 'blasters'- they actually shoot high energy plasma contained in some sort of magnetic field, which is why they can be parried or dodged.
@COEYRN
@COEYRN Жыл бұрын
Why do Droids feel pain? Answer: it's funny!! This was my favorite part when I saw it in theaters, I was 6. Obviously it was for kids.
@adrielalonso1026
@adrielalonso1026 Жыл бұрын
10. Those reasons make complete sense, she has always shown a strong will and mind, even more than Luke. There's no plot hole. 9. Do you even watch the movies? Vader tells Luke that together they could take down the Emperor together + if Luke joined the Emperor, he was going to get rid of Vader. 8. Vader hates Tatooine, he was never going to comeback there. Also, THAT WASN'T OBI-WAN'S IDEA 7. Sequels are NOT Star Wars, they don't count. 6. If I remeber correctly, the laser needed to be charged anyway, they couldn't just shoot it whenever they wanted. 5. You're mostly right on that one. Jedi were quite famous but there weren't that many of them and the galaxy is way to big for everyone to know about them. 4. He escaped at the speed of light, next. 3. It's a fictional universe. The right question is why wouldn't they? 2. Finally, a legit plot hole that isn't there to extend the video. 1. You're also right here. So, only 2 valid plot holes, making the video 80% filler. Pay attention to the movies you watch before making a video 💀
@TheYeetTeam
@TheYeetTeam Жыл бұрын
+ droids have pain receptors
@dresdenwarlock7978
@dresdenwarlock7978 Жыл бұрын
Vader has no reason to think his child is alive at all (and he only knew Padme was preggo, not that it was twins), so any amount of force abilities he MIGHT sense in Leia has nothing to do with a familial bond. The Rule of 2 is undone by its own rule being incorrect because the sith are ALWAYS looking for more power, they'll need assistance to take over their current master or maintain power. So they'll get an apprentice on the sly, in the shadows plotting to overthrow their master, or the master will straight up say "hey, fight to the death, prove you're worth my time" as Palps did with Luke and Vader, and Anakin and Dooku. The rule of 2 makes sense more in the short term than long term. Lucas at one point said the name "Skywalker" was kind of like the "Smith" of the GFFA, so it's a fairly common surname. Kind of like Antilles. And again, Vader had no reason to believe his child would be alive so there's no reason he'd look for anyone with that name, since his wife, his mother, and his child and even himself are dead. Nothing in the sequel trilogy is designed to make sense, it's just designed to sell, so don't think about fuel on Jakku. It's just stupid. If the empire fired at Yaving prime (a gas giant) it would have hit nothing, they couldn't guarantee a shot THROUGH it to hit Yavin 4 either, so they had to orbit around. If they did somehow destroy Yavin prime they would have had to wait for a recharge and by then the rebel forces would have abandoned the planet. The Jedi aren't really forgotten, but they're considered mostly extinct, some who weren't around during the time period grew up without Jedi walking about, and even during the time of their reign, in the outer rim where they had no real presence, they may as well have been a myth. Lukes X-Wing got prepped by R2 before he was even back to the base, outside waiting, where the Empire hadn't gotten to yet, then he bailed, opposite side of the planet. Droids don't feel anything, but their programming is so wonderful that they project it, and if they can project it, and they can SEEM to have emotions, then they can be manipulated. Leia's memories of Padme are force visions "just images really, feelings". and I honestly don't have an answer for the hyperdrive, just a goof I guess.
@Noblemiss
@Noblemiss Жыл бұрын
Biggest plot whole I have noticed is how R2 and C3PO, both knew Anakin before he turned to the darkside. In fact, so did Leah, as R2 was initially owned by Padma, and later C3PO (not to mention Anakin built C3PO) as well. Then there is everything the two droids did during the clone wars. AND in Clone Wars, Anakin risked his life to save R2 in one episode. And yet, none of the characters seem to recognize them in episodes 4, 5, 6.
@edwardrhoades6957
@edwardrhoades6957 Жыл бұрын
Threepio's memory was wiped at the end of Ep III, and Artoo is really good at keeping secrets.
@Noblemiss
@Noblemiss Жыл бұрын
@@edwardrhoades6957 True, but Obi Wan, and Darth Vader not recognizing them?
@edwardrhoades6957
@edwardrhoades6957 Жыл бұрын
I don't recall Vader seeing either droid in the original trilogy, and Obi-Wan didn't seem the type to bother remembering a droid
@terrihill9006
@terrihill9006 2 ай бұрын
They looked like other similar droids. We see them in the films.
@depalma13
@depalma13 Жыл бұрын
#9 Vader was going to kill Palpatine if Luke joined him. #8 Obi Wan had no idea Anakin survived the fight on Mustanfar. He had no reason to fear Luke being found. Not until Luke was nine did he find out Anakin was alive. He thought he killed him again, so he still had nothing to worry about afterwards. #6 A Laser can't blowup a gas planet. The bigger plot hole is why does it take a battle station that is capable of traveling across the galaxy so long to orbit. #3 Droids are programmed to "feel pain" in an effort to play on the feelings of anyone who may do them harm and to trick them to stop. #2 Padme didn't die during childbirth. That was a ruse to trick the Emperor. She was actually taken with Leia to Alderaan, where she died a few years later. The future Disney+ show Princess Leia Teenage Diaries will fix that plot hole.
@Karolpa1138
@Karolpa1138 Жыл бұрын
About no. 4: I think its because Luke‘s hyperdrive actually worked.
@imnotmike
@imnotmike Жыл бұрын
1 - Why didn't Vader sense that Leia is his daughter? Why should he? I don't know why you'd expect him to be able to do that. He also didn't sense Luke was his son. The emperor eventually told him that. All he ever sensed with Luke was that he was strong with the force. Later when he knew who he was, he was then able to sense his presence. Not a plot hole. At all. 2 - The Rule of two makes no sense. The rule of two was created by Darth Bane thousands of years ago. The jedi and the sith were always at war, but the jedi constantly defeated the sith, and the reason was that the sith were constantly betraying each other. Groups of weaker sith would join forces to depose a stronger ruler, and the hierarchy got weaker and weaker. Eventually Bane decided that the Sith should only be the rulers of the galaxy, not a force of fighters, and enacted the rule of two, killing all of the weaker sith. It was decided that there would be a master and an apprentice. If the apprentice could overthrow the master, then it was time for that master to step aside for his more powerful apprentice. If the apprentice failed, he would be replaced, with the master seeking to find a more powerful apprentice. Not a plot hole. 3 - Why did Obi-wan hide Luke on Tatooine. Hiding someone in plain sight is a perfectly legitimate strategy. Vader hated Tatooine and would never go back there. He had a terrible history there, and he had gone on at length about how much he hated sand. He also had no reason to be looking for Luke. He didn't even know that he had a son. It might have been wise to change his name. But Luke was growing up with his family, and their family name was Skywalker. Where do you think Anakin got his surname? They didn't just make it up. He wasn't the first Skywalker. So it wouldn't be odd at all for there to have been a boy named Skywalker living with a family that had a past association with the Skywalkers on Tatooine. Not a plot hole. 4 - The Millenium Falcon is fueled up on Jakku. I didn't honestly pay that much attention to those movies. I watched them when they came out, but I haven't rewatched them since, and since they weren't very good, I'm just not very familiar with this. I'll probably go back and give them a more serious watch at some point. This seems kind of nitpicky, but I can't say with any certainty at this time. Maybe a minor plothole, but I'm not sure. 5 - Why didn't the Empire fire at Yavin. This is obviously not a plothole. If I was piloting the deathstar, I wouldn't even think to try to shoot through the planet to destroy the moon. They didn't think they were in any real danger. From their perspective, they were attacking the rebels, the rebels weren't coming after them. Trying to shoot through a planet would seem really odd to me, and there are countless legitimate reasons why it might not have worked. Maybe with hindsight it's reasonable to say maybe we could have just shot through the planet to destroy them, but in the moment I see no reason why they should have thought to try that. Obviously not a plothole. 6 - The Jedi being forgotten You might be ascribing more fame and notoriety to the jedi order than they deserve. They seemed like they were mostly considered a myth even before they were wiped out. The junk trader on tatooine referenced jedi offhandedly, but the way I'd reference a ninja - what you think you're some kind of ninja? He didn't recognize Qui-gon as a jedi, even though he mocked him asking if he thought he was some kind of jedi or something. He didn't think twice about it when Qui-gon used the force to manipulate the dice roll. I just think that outside of Coruscant most people had never actually had any real interactions with the jedi even before the clone war, and only knew them by their legend. The jedi were a small faction that had some relationship to the republic government, but they weren't even directly involved with the government. Kind of like - I know generally who congress is, and I can tell you the name of the house ways and means committee, but I don't know the first thing about what that committee actually is, who is on it, what they do, or anything else about it. And I'm sure if the ways and means committee were disbanded, then in 20 years only the most hardcore of political wonks would even remember that there ever was such a thing. Not really a plothole. 7 - Luke's inexplicable escape This is another one that is just obviously not a plothole right out of the gate. Luke left in a single x-wing fighter, and he left long after the battle was over. The empire was trying to stop transport ships. They weren't concerned about single pilot fighters. It doesn't even seem a little bit strange that they couldn't be bothered with a single x-wing leaving the planet long after the rest of the battalion stormed through the blockade. This is like if you're trying to get rid of a bug infestation and you dig out an anthill. You don't go chasing down every individual ant. You're trying to get the queen and the nursery. The drones are irrelevant. Obviously not a plothole. 8 - Droids feel pain Obviously they programmed the droids to feel pain because they wanted to be able to torture them. Whether it was for some sick pleasure or to get the droids to comply, the answer is obvious. Why would they have been torturing that droid one way or another? If they had a reason to torture the droid then they obviously had a reason to program it to feel pain. Obviously not a plothole. 9 - Leia has memories It's not completely outside the realm of Star Wars probability for Leia to remember vague images of her mother. She did meet her mother as a baby. I remember some things from before I was a year old. My earliest memories are probably from around 3-6 months. I remember before I could walk, and I learned to walk very early. And it's pretty unusual for people to have memories that early. Most people don't. Certainly I don't remember anything from the day I was born. But I'm also not a space wizard with natural born space wizard powers that resemble psychic powers. She could be getting some sort of force echo, similar to what Cal Kestus gets by touching objects in Jedi Fallen Order. Understandable, but not really a plothole in the context of the Star Wars Universe. 10 - Vader only disables the Falcon's hyperdrive Well, if I'm remembering right, Vader didn't disable the Falcon's hyperdrive at all. Vader ordered Lando's people to do it. And Lando's people probably realized that Lando had a history with that ship and would want it back, so they probably assumed that Lando wouldn't want the ship seriously damaged. So it makes perfect sense that they would only want to temporarily disable the hyperdrive, and do as little actual damage to the ship as possible, thinking that Lando would get his prized ship back after this whole thing was over. Not a plothole.
@RickDomZeke
@RickDomZeke Жыл бұрын
Honestly some of these are simple enough. 1. Undeveloped storyline as explained 2. Palpatine wanted Vader to turn Luke and then in turn, Luke would have been tasked to kill Vader, preserving the rule of 2. Or Vader, as seen, wanted to and did killed Palpatine, again preserving the rule, had Luke accepted his offer 3. Undeveloped storyline as explained 4. When this movie came out the understanding of how the ships in the SW universe were fueled wasn't widely fleshed out, so the idea that the fuel source would decay over time wouldn't have been a consideration, also its possible Unkar Plott kept it fueled to use for himself to escape if shit hit the fan or had a buyer lined up. 5. The Empire didn't fire on Yavin primarily because it wasn't their target. Also "firing through it" wouldn't have been a good idea....its a GAS giant...it could have ignited creating other issues. Shooting through an object to hit something behind it should always be avoided unless absolutely necessary. 6. The Jedi being forgotten is a hard one, but think about this....only 10,000 of them, even if you say the 10K were just the knights, thats still an infinitesimal number compared to the wider galaxy. They were already super legendary as is. Yeah they led armies in the clone wars, but considered this....how many people worldwide can name elite military units from other countries that fought in WW2. Think about it...can the majority of people from Norway name a famous military unit from Belize that fought in WW2 somewhere? 7. Luke's Escape....easy....the Empire was pre-occupied. They were conducting a ground invasion of a huge rebel base and were waaay more concerned about a ground to space anti-ship cannon that had already claimed one ISD. A random X-wing flying around was of no concern to anybody at that point. 8. Droids feeling pain....yeah....never made sense to me either. 9. Undeveloped storyline as explained 10. This one is more a hindsight plot hole. By the same logic you can say, why didnt they have 100 stormtroopers guarding the MF, why didnt he have all the Cloud City guards disarmed to prevent them from helping. This one was just a victim of hindsight plotholing.
@MaceyMichael
@MaceyMichael Жыл бұрын
The rule of Two is not so senseless as you might think. A master and his pupil is a perfect balance in the dark side. Considering that the tradition wants the pupil to overcome and replace the master one day, the pupil has to try and dispose of his master. On the other side, the master is in need of a strong pupil, to be able to do his bidding. Sith deal in absolutes and they expect no more that perfection. So a weak pupil is worthless. Therefore the master seeks to either strengthen his pupil or find someone else to replace him. That is why the pupil is constantly either send on difficult missions or the master sends someone after his pupil to test his powers. That is why Anakin had to kill Dooku and why Sidious was prepared to sacrifice Vader to Luke. Makes sense, see?
@bentontramell
@bentontramell Жыл бұрын
I don't recall, does Vader share any scenes with R2D2 or C3PO? Potential plot hole, not recognizing them. And, how can Luke's lightsaber survive the drop in ESB and show up, pristinely, in TFA.
@stephanfenton4352
@stephanfenton4352 Жыл бұрын
In general I find that "plot hole" really just means "something that I don't understand". Maybe it's a plot point that wasn't explained well enough, and related to something that happened offscreen. Or maybe it's just something that doesn't really matter. Picking away at them is more annoying that it is anything else.
@hellcat1988
@hellcat1988 Жыл бұрын
The rule of two may be more of a "if you have more than two, you're gonna have a bad time" kind of rule. Implying, perhaps, that more than two draws too much attention, will create infighting between them and their ambitions, or even that it divides their individual influence too much.
@timberwolf5211
@timberwolf5211 Жыл бұрын
The whole thing with Leia and her mother was a big plot hole for me, as soon as Padme died. In Jedi, Luke specifically asks Leia, "Do you remember your Real mother?" Not your adopted mother. Clearly there is a recognition that the mother that raised her, wasn't her birth mother, hense Luke saying REAL mother. And with Leia answering, yes, that she died when she was very young, that she remembered she was beautiful and kind, had long hair, and being sad. Which meant that Leia understood what Luke meant, by her Real mother, rather than her adopted one. After the prequels, some people said, that you could say that Leia was remembering her adopted mother, rather than her birth mother. But, Leia said that she died when she was very young. So, unless things change in the SW series, Obi Wan, and her adopted mother dies early in S2 or something, ten is hardly very young to only have fleeting memories of her. And if her adopted mother survives right up until Vader blows up Alderan, then again, aged 17-18 you're going to remember a lot more of your mother than again fleeting images. Which brings us back to the fact that Leia remembered her real mother. This has bugged me ever since the screw up of the prequels. It doesn't make sense why Leia would say what she did in Jedi. Unless Leia has some form of genetic memory going on, that Luke clearly doesn't share with his sister, as her clearly says to Leia, that he has no memory of his mother. I like many others grew up believing that after the Twins were separated, Luke was with Owen, and Leia was with her unnamed at the time mother, who died when she was very young, and her stepfather remarried, to the woman that Leia called mother. And was left with fleeting memories or her real mother. And then she lost her adopted parents when Alderan was destroyed. After the prequels, we was left scratching our heads. I for one tend to treat the prequels, as practically another movie franchise and certain sequel events as not a part of the story, as it goes against character.
@classicgalactica5879
@classicgalactica5879 Жыл бұрын
Well the prequels sucked, so....
@_Master_Wolf
@_Master_Wolf Жыл бұрын
It's funny that the plot about Luke's last name was a plot hole even back when only the first film existed, and still doesn't make sense even without all knowledge we have of the two sequels and the prequels. Let's say we ignore the fact Vader is Luke's father, and that Tatooine was also Anakin's home planet. Based on just the first film alone, what do we know? We know Luke's last name is Skywalker, we know he lives with his aunt and uncle whose last name is Lars, we know Obi-Wan fought with Luke's father in the Clone Wars, we know that Darth Vader was once Obi-Wan's apprentice and we know that Vader betrayed and murdered Luke's father. So based on this info, we know Luke's father's surname was Skywalker, and both Obi-Wan and Vader knew a Jedi Knight named Skywalker who fought in the Clone Wars. Considering this, why wouldn't they have given Luke his aunt and uncle last name, Lars? Why risk Darth Vader discovering the son of the Jedi Knight that he murdered? This is probably just as dumb as Obi-Wan changing his name to Ben but keeping Kenobi as his last name. If he was a former Jedi Knight in hiding and the old master of Darth Vader, why would he keep the same name??
@pipepicasso8112
@pipepicasso8112 Жыл бұрын
The Emperor wanted Luke to replace Vader. And, Vader wanted Luke to join him to destroy the Emperor. So, the 'rule of 2' still remains. The Emperor and Vader knew each other would scheme against each other over Luke. That is why they kind of worked together to turn Luke. (If that explains it)
@sotarro9969
@sotarro9969 Жыл бұрын
I can answer the millennium falcon fuel plot hole with one quote: "THAT'S MIIINE!"
@NearQuasar
@NearQuasar Жыл бұрын
Droids feeling pain might be because it prevents them from needlessly damaging themselves
@mikicoal
@mikicoal 2 ай бұрын
Of course he didn't recognise her as his daughter (and this gets brought up all the time). He didn't know he had a daughter, and she didn't know he was her dad. There was nothing to hide that might have gotten his attention.
@Calbeck
@Calbeck Жыл бұрын
I like how most of these are entirely the fault of the Disney flicks not paying attention to either the previous flicks or each other.
@sethtedder7239
@sethtedder7239 Жыл бұрын
#10 "Anakin Skywalker was weak, I destroyed him" (Star Wars Rebels) and "Anakin is gone; I am what remains" (Star Wars Obi-Wan Kenobi). Anakin Skywalker, at that point, was dead, Darth Vader has no daughter. But..."I am your father!!" Yes, yes, I know, but this is after a boy named Luke Skywalker, protected by Obi-Wan Kenobi, starts using the force. That's not the same as "I am a member of the Imperial Senate and am on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan" or "you are a member of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor." #9 The Rule of Two was created to end the endless backstabbing and betrayal of the Sith Empire, and was more of a guideline than a "rule." After all, Sith aren't good at being told no. As far as seducing Luke to the darkside, it seems as though the Emperor had plans to replace his apprentice, Darth Vader (who he probably knew was plotting to everthrow him from the beginning) with Luke Skywalker. To counter, Darth Vader was planning to use Luke to destroy the Emperor. This is is why Palpatine demanded Count Dooku betray Asajj Ventress. There are always two, but those two are always jockeying for an advantage over the other. That's the point of the arrangement, and it will inevitably lead to others being involved in that duel power struggle. #8 On Tatooine with his family is the best place in the galaxy to hide Luke. How do we know this? Firstly, it's remote, even by outer rim standards. Secondly, for just the reason you gave, Darth Vader would not return there, but not necessarily because of the trauma directly. From his perspective, he would want to avoid the memories so they would not weaken him. Orbiting Scarif in Rouge One and on Tantive IV in A New Hope, Vader took a personal interest in the mission at hand--a trait shared across the books, movies, and shows--but did he go down to the planet's surface after the escape pod landed on Tatooine? No, he did not, and that was when he was already in orbit with a mission to complete, much less ambling along and discovering he has a son on Tatooine. #7 Do we know if it had been a long time since Han and Chewie lost the Falcon? Also, it had changed hands several times. Unkar Plutt (one-quarter portion guy) stole it from the Irving Boys who stole it from Ducain who stole it from Han and Chewie. Even if it had been a long time since its true owners had been home, the Falcon could have easily been fueled up by Ducain, or the Irving Boys, or Unkar Plutt (he cheated scavengers like Rey, but I'm sure he spent the kickback on something and I'm sure he had to get most of those parts off world to profit in the first place). #6 You answered that one already. The Empire was beyond arrogant. Grand Moff Tarkin was unwilling to evacuate even when the Death Star was definitely under threat because he was still beyond arrogant. Furthermore, is there any reason to believe the bolt would have gone through Yavin Prime? The Death Star can't fire a simple laser, the science just doesn't add up (the energy production and recoil alone rule that out). It would have to fire antimatter. They would not be using force, a force that could puncture the gas giant, they would be using antimatter to destroy matter, which would destroy Yavin Prime but not Yavin IV. #5 Why would Luke know about the Jedi? He was a moister farmer on Tatooine. They are isolated compared to others on Tatooine and the desert planet itself is isolated. Not only that, Luke's adoptive parents were intent on sheltering him from his connection with the Jedi so he would not follow in the footsteps of his father. As for others besides Luke, the rebels regularly say "may the force be with you" and imperial leadership mentions the Jedi during their "board meeting" in A New Hope. As for the rest of the galaxy, we don't get much interaction with them unfortunately. Keep in mind, they are under a repressive authoritarian regime that controls information. Not only that, it would be extremely dangerous to talk about the Jedi even if you know about them. Remember, Trace and Rafa Martez (Season 7 of Star Wars the Clone Wars) barely knew who the Jedi were, and they lived on Coruscant, where the Jedi lived, and that was before the Jedi were all but wiped out! Here's a historical example. How many Chinese people today know about the Tiananmen Square protests and subsequent massacre? That was in 1989, not long ago. Of those who know about it, how many know the details? Of those who know the details, how many consider the crackdown a bad thing? Of those who consider it a bad thing, how many would talk about it? Of those who would talk about it, how many would talk about it among strangers or people they couldn't trust? That number is very very very low. I went to high school with a Chinese guy who had never heard of the Tiananmen Square massacre. Of course, youtube is banned in China, so they aren't likely to hear about Tiananmen Square from me. They live in the same country this major event occurred and don't know it; whereas, Star Wars encompasses a whole galaxy. #4 The Falcon escaped Hoth, so why not Luke's X-wing? The blockade was designed to prevent the large transport ships from escaping, and failed at that due to the ion cannon I might add. Preventing a smuggling ship and a small fighter craft from escaping would be a whole different ball game for a planetary blockade. #3 These droids were likely programmed to feel pain. There was no logical upside to freezing Han in carbonate when he could have had a fortune either, but this is Jabba the Hutt we're talking about. #2 You answered that one already as well. It's likely that Leia is remembering her adoptive mother. After all, she was brought to Alderaan as a baby and her first memories of a mother figure would be of Queen Breha Organa. Also, she could have experienced force visions like her father did. #1 You got me there! This one might actually be a plot hole. Sounds like they should have blown up that piece of junk before it reached the sky. Or, Vader just forgot about op R2, like Old Ben "forgot" about him (Obi-Wan never owned R2-D2, so what he told Luke was true, from a certain point of view).
@inarar5334
@inarar5334 Жыл бұрын
"Beautiful. But sad. Just thoughts really, images." This isn't hard. Her feelings of Padme come from her latent Force sensitivity. She doesn't know that, though, so all she knows is "she died when I was very young." Which is a truth, she was about as young as you can be. She seems to be naturally empathetic, as well, and her descriptions line up with how she might have reconciled force insights as an infant in to the other flashes of memory one has with youth.
@white-dragon4424
@white-dragon4424 Жыл бұрын
Any explanation why Luke couldn't remember her, especially with his powers being far more advanced?
@Iwillone
@Iwillone Жыл бұрын
Plus they backed up this knowledge of her mother with what Obi-Wan tells her about Padme in his series.
@robt4390
@robt4390 Жыл бұрын
I recall dialogue along the lines of: “Do you remember your (meaning our) mother, your real one? I have no memory.” “Yes, though she died when I was very young.” The stretch is Leia’s mother having died in childbirth compared to her having died when she was “very young”. Technically, this could be true. However, we know it’s not what Leia meant when she spoke to Luke in Jedi. To reconcile the matter you either have to disregard the events of the prequels (which is easy) or the events of Jedi (which is less easy, though perhaps not impossible).
@white-dragon4424
@white-dragon4424 Жыл бұрын
@@robt4390 Lucas, in some ways, is the perfect conman. He's all smoke and mirrors with the ability to fool millions of gullible followers into believing his BS. He twists logic and credibility like one of the modern rollercoasters with the loops, and so many idiots believe every bit of crap that he tells them! Simple fact is that he totally forgot the bit where Luke says "your REAL mother" when he was writing ROTS. And you know what? I don't even think he cares how many continuity errors and plot holes his crappy writing creates, because he knows that his devoted fanatics will buy into whatever he does and says without question.
@kendoyle8370
@kendoyle8370 Жыл бұрын
George Lucas could easily have avoided the Luke’s last name is Skywalker problem by giving Anakin a different last name in Episode VI. Then there would be no reason Anakin Jones would ever suspect Luke was his son, since Skywalker would be the pseudonym.
@generalkenobi1332
@generalkenobi1332 Жыл бұрын
Everyone knows the biggest plot hole is how somehow Palpatine returned
@craigcampbell3166
@craigcampbell3166 Жыл бұрын
Vader doesn’t recognize Leia, I can accept that as they have never met. However, uncle Owen not recognizing 3PO is the biggest plot hole that everyone overlooks. They lived together for 10 years! A new coat of paint doesn’t change anything, it’s Anthony Daniel’s in there. Why would he even ask ‘you must be a protocol droid?’. He knows damn well what he is, he owned him!
@ECSOrder66
@ECSOrder66 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget he has also not seen 3PO for 25 years, I believe! Would you remember your family member if you didn't see them in 25 years? And 3PO doesn't recognize Owen either because he had a memory wipe. Plot hole fixed.
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB Жыл бұрын
Not destroying Yavin Prime: Perhaps they didn't want to waste the fuel/energy/crystals/whatever needed to destroy the planet. I believe there is meant to be some kind of cooldown or charging needed, and destroying Yavin Prime would leave the Death Star vulnerable as it wouldn't be able to then attack Yavin 4. The Jedi being forgotten: I never took this as the Jedi being forgotten so much as a wild propaganda campaign against them. They were already mythical figures in their prime, but I suspect that most people would have accepted the Empire's accusation that they're traitors and that they were wiped out for it. Considering how real world propaganda can take hold inside a single generation, it's not unreasonable to think that anyone under, say, 50 or 60 years old would have no real memory or attachment to the Jedi. Leia remembering Padme: This one is definitely a planet sized plot hole. Perhaps the Force was allowing her to perceive Padme outside the womb, and not being taught about the Force, she mis-understood this as genuine memories. But then childhood amnesia would prevent this from happening anyways, as children in real life largely forget the first few years of life for a variety of possible reasons. Even if Padme didn't die in child birth, Leia wouldn't remember her, so it's a stretch to think that nascent Force visions as a fetus would be remembered.
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