1038X vs. Johnny Popper! Dyno Test. Turbocharged Deere 1025R, Stock 1025R & John Deere Model A!

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2 жыл бұрын

Special thanks to the Boone County Antique Tractor Club for using their dyno to test the PTO horse power of Johnny X (Turbo charged Deere 1025R), our 2021 JD 1025R and their John Deere Model A. Can you guess which tractor has the most pto power?
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@sassafrasvalley1939 2 жыл бұрын

I love hearing those old Johnny’s pulled down, under load. Their rhythmic chugging is a reminder of hours spent riding & dreaming, in my formative years!

@davidcolgan3268 2 жыл бұрын

Dad’s JD dealership had an M&W dyno back in the ‘60’s primarily used to put a load on rebuilt engines to help seat the rings. M&let back then was also known for selling parts for increasing power including Power Blocks and Turbo Kits.

@russwands8124 2 жыл бұрын

Had a blast! Good old family fun. Great to meet up with you guys.

@Kcolby47 2 жыл бұрын

When I heard you mention “M&W” I immediately recalled waaay back, that farmers when they would overhaul their tractors they would use M&W pistons and rings for “more power!” M&W had quite a good reputation for overhaul parts and tractor performance. Fun to watch the dyno and see Johnny X power up. What an amazing increase in PTO power. Let’s hope it holds together 😉. Blessings.

@frankponte4031 2 жыл бұрын

There's no replacement for displacement but the turbo made a huge improvement over the stock 1025R

@eastkyboy5619 2 жыл бұрын

Love how you guys stay true to your roots! You set the example with your community involvement! Keep it up Tim and Christy!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

@FelipeColby 2 жыл бұрын

I think I finally understand how that dyno works...just as long as you don't ask me to explain it.

@RCPSU4 2 жыл бұрын

Seeing all of these antique tractors is always fun to see at the fair. My uncle just happened to sell his father's Allis-Chalmers (hand crank start) tractor to someone wanting to restore it. Have only seen it once, but it's a piece of history.

@lcee6592 2 жыл бұрын

Looks like a great time for families, tractors and dyno testing! Who doesn’t love old tractors?! Thanks for sharing. 👍

@David-lh1vp 2 жыл бұрын

I have Classic tractor fever. 100 years of horsepower Belleville Illinois August 24th through 27th.

@doclull1989 2 жыл бұрын

Grew up using A's and B's on our farm. I remember when we got a 44 Massey Harris. A tractor w power steering and a foot clutch. Thought I died and gone to heaven lol. Still love hearing those Johnny Poppers though.

@jonathonschram3429 2 жыл бұрын

I have a JD 50...pretty much a newer B. Grandpa gave it to me before he died. The independent wheels on the trike front end is a HUGE improvement. I don't use it much, but I do love it. They do have a great sound, and it is a pretty pleasant ride just tooling around. Every couple years I'll hook up a sickle mower and cut a couple acres. The newer tractors (and seats!) sure are appreciated after a few hours in the older iron!

@doclull1989 2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathonschram3429 I wish my dad would have kept some, but to him it was just a tractor. Still have the old Massey but think it broke a rod. Just don't have a place to tear into it out of the weather. We also had an old Allis Chalmers crawler. Can't remember the model. Absolutely loved that little thing. Wanted to restore it it but came home one day and dad had sold it lol.

@jonathonschram3429 2 жыл бұрын

@@doclull1989 yeah, it's tough with some of the old iron. I kept the jd 50, Oliver Super 88, and a MF industrial (needed it for actual work around our farm). He had a bunch of Oliver's, but I just couldn't justify dragging them all out to my place. My brother kept the 55, which was my favorite of the bunch to be honest. Like you, I didn't have the time or space to keep up with them all. Now I'm finally getting around to building a bigger shop (140x72), I wish I would have held on to more of them! Most of our equipment now is orange and I just don't see my kid (6) ever being as excited over an mx5200. He loves the JD and our Ferguson to30 though! Just knowing what those old timers endured on is amazing though. Grandpa told me he put 11,000hrs on an Oliver Super 77 in something like 7 or 8 years. My back was hurting after tooling around in it in a few hours pulling hay rack rides at the county fair! I imagine the Super 88 would be even worse given the fact it could pull a bigger implement even faster through a field. Times sure have changed.

@jimbachman1650 2 жыл бұрын

The old tractors bring back memories of backing up an articulated hay rack with a hand clutch Johnny popper. That was fun. I now have a 1025R and that is also quite gratifying and extremely useful for many jobs.

@davewilson8308 2 жыл бұрын

Love the old Tractors. We had an old 1932 Ford tractor we plowed about 20 acres in the late 70s…man was that fun!

@jdfleetguy28 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video Tim. Always love seeing Johny X in action. I sure hope to get a turbo kit someday for my Gen 2, 2025R. That Turbo sounds Oh Sooooo Gooooood !!!!!!! I think this demonstrates quite well why when given a choice, I tend to always recommend a turbo charged tractor if any sort of heavy PTO work is planned. I have seen this in real world mowing applications comparing the likes of a 3033R non turbo to a 3039R turbo and how the Turbo can really help power through thick heavy grass where the non turbo would always stall out.

@kevinbaker6168 2 жыл бұрын

The equipment they used to test engine HP at the Nebraska trials/tests resembles more of a wagon that had a cab on it to house the operator and the equipment for the test. The way it worked was it applied break pressure on the wheels to give resistance to the tractor. The system had to work on a paved surface with a calculated resistance of friction. The HP like the dyno told the operator how many flb of pressure was applied to the brakes, along with the known weight of the trailer, the degree of coefficient of friction of the pavement then told me after calculations the estimated HP of the tractor. If you would think of it this way to simplify the system it was like a weight sled at a tractor pull. The difference being the hydraulic brakes provided the load rather than the counter weight on the sled. Of course a tractor pull is done on a dirt track, so the coefficient of friction is less based on the degree of compaction of the soil.

@daddio7249 2 жыл бұрын

On my granddad's farm we had a John Deere B and two 520's, an M and H Farmall. Now those are antiques and so am I.

@btsllc9676 2 жыл бұрын

Tim, wondered if you have heard of the Sunbelt Ag Expo that is located in Moultrie, Georgia? It might would be a good venue for Tractor Time with Tim. It is usually a 3 day event and draws around 70,000 visitors over the 3 days.

@JCWren 2 жыл бұрын

LOL, that kid on the right at 11:36 walking into the shot. He wasn't sure about that.

@darrickhamerlinck5472 2 жыл бұрын

Love the sound of the old two cylinder. We have our grandpas A I’m going to put a million miles on it. Lol

@dave.lawrence.3894 2 жыл бұрын

A nice to know video...... thanks again. .

@45Deere9500 2 жыл бұрын

The field across the road, from the house I grew up in, used to be farmed by a guy using John Deere 2 cylinders. This was up to around 1985. Don't remember the exact models, but thinking one was a 70 or 720 and the other a 60 or 620. Both were tricycle fronts. The larger one would be working ground, while the second was pulling the four row planter across the ground. There were times the putt, putts of the two tractors would sync up for a bit and really sound good. He later on moved up to a couple 4020 John Deeres.

@tommybounds3220 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video.

@josephdriscoll8527 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks or bringing us along

@jimmcknight3021 2 жыл бұрын

I think my Granddad had that model of JD. Probably turned in his grave that the family has two Kubotas and only a JD garden tractor. 😆 lol

@DunbarLandFarms 2 жыл бұрын

That was very interesting and a great subject.

@unclealansyard5176 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! I wonder if you did a dyno comparison of older tractors vs equivalent HP new tractors with different HP ranges to see if older ones do create more HP over newer technology.

@jeffstrains4014 2 жыл бұрын

Cool I learned something on the dyno works

@kentuckyyankee 2 жыл бұрын

That was fun! I had a 430 once gas version not the Detroit

@ruarioshea6015 2 жыл бұрын

I had to go out and check was my A still in the yard probably a bit far to travel back to the states from Ireland though 🤣🤣

@darrenburch3326 2 жыл бұрын

Fair season in late summer miss it .😀 ours is in January.

@m9ovich785 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tim/Kristy..

@terrancesnyder9323 2 жыл бұрын

Good afternoon, God bless you & thank you for sharing

@Hoodyhoo2121 2 жыл бұрын

I love these videos. Seeing 22 hp on the stock machine was neat, though I guess you'd be closer to the 18 hp spec if the tractor was pulling something like a tiller/bush hog across the ground?

@Formulabruce 2 жыл бұрын

ALL Dynos Only measure Torque, through Pressure. HP is ALWAYS just a calculation. Very cool video!

@noelstractors-firewood57 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I like that.

@bradleymcclintock7771 2 жыл бұрын

That was cool Tim lot's of fun 😀 speaking of turbos have the turbo shop came up with a bolt on turbo kit yet I haven't heard anything. As always Tim great video. !!!!!!

@TractorTimewithTim 2 жыл бұрын

Not yet. Working on it.

@bradleymcclintock7771 2 жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim ok cool thanks Tim.

@housecatlife 2 жыл бұрын

Curious as to what the PTO output per Cubic Inch displacement for the two tractors. Chances are, one cylinder of the older JD is as much cubic inch displacement as the Johnny X. Those pistons were as big as buckets!

@BillyP55 2 жыл бұрын

Loved this episode. Need that turbo for "Buck" (my 1025R)... but I don't think I could get it by the wife. lol

@jddriver9565 Жыл бұрын

Coolant Temp almost to the red?wow I really didnt expect that!😮

@philsmock4943 2 жыл бұрын

Fun to watch. At the end you showed some John Deeres and Farmalls/IH but I can't believe you passed up showing some Olivers. Maybe next time. Thanks for sharing.

@TractorTimewithTim 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Christy was on the camera. I am not happy about it! :-)

@philsmock4943 2 жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim Lol...that's funny.

@murphythedog1637 2 жыл бұрын

Tim here is an idea, it's just one of my many dumb ideas I come up with daily, I dont have any idea if it is a good idea. Have you thought about having a tractor school maybe on the weekends, may be a 1or 2 day class on how to operate a 1025r attachment's, maintenance and easy common repairs. It could be more hands on, where the people could operate a backhoe, plow and other implement's, and attachments. No charge for the idea, like your videos. Could be a money maker for you if you get like 10 students at once , but maybe they would be tearing up your machinery . Maybe have the school once a year or when ever you have the time and enough students.

@DavidTaylor24 2 жыл бұрын

I think that's a great idea!

@TractorTimewithTim 2 жыл бұрын

How much would you pay for a 1 day or 2 day training with 9 other folks?

@murphythedog1637 2 жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim I would like to pay, around $100, but I am very cheap. Maybe figure what it would cost you, and how much money you would need to make, Then ask that, see if people would come, if you don't get at least 10 people, then don't do it. I think you are in Indiana some where, So There would probably have to be a hotel close by. Maybe John Deere would even sponsor you, in some way.

@steffen707- Жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim how much do you think you'd have to charge to make it worth your while? I would spend $100-$300, above that, i'd have to think a little bit.

@fullers1966 2 жыл бұрын

I remember my grandpa having an A biggest tractor on this farm

@bucklemon9945 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to be able to put my L2501 on one of those dyno’s to see how much hp gains I achieved by adjusting the fuel screw on it. I’m guessing 3-5hp by the way it runs.

@bulletsandbacon4440 2 жыл бұрын

I have a L2501 as well. I’d hate to mess with it but I can’t leave anything alone. Worth it?

@bobwatson9290 2 жыл бұрын

I’d love to put a turbo on my 3025e

@GrampysTractor 2 жыл бұрын

Great test for both the johnny's. Do you happen to know how much time went by on the Johnny X test? Or how long did it take the engine coolant to get into the red? I loved the musical background at the end while showing the other antique tractors.

@TractorTimewithTim 2 жыл бұрын

Wasn’t much time…when pulling it down to 500 PTO or less. Come back next week for a more real world test.

@100pyatt Жыл бұрын

Add water methanol injection next to cool EGT and increase power further

@GoJDpuller 2 жыл бұрын

My 2038R and my 1948 A made the same horsepower on a dyno 38. I’ve pulled the same harrow with both and the A out pulls the 2038R. But I still love my 2038R it seems better for pto work

@brianuhing2657 2 жыл бұрын

Tim torque is where it's at. How do they measure torque? Tim your still the man.👍

@TractorTimewithTim 2 жыл бұрын

Torque is actually a function of hp and rpm.

@brianuhing2657 2 жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim Tim I enjoy seeing people do what they like. Tim you always have a good attitude. Tim are yanmar tractors close to JD utility tractors just different tin work so to speak. You have a wonderful and out of the box outreach. 👍

@TractorTimewithTim 2 жыл бұрын

@@brianuhing2657 thanks for the kind words! No Yanmar and Deere are significantly different now.

@montanastieber9080 2 жыл бұрын

I thought I saw some Oliver’s back there would have been cool to see those

@TractorTimewithTim 2 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@davidshipulski4532 2 жыл бұрын

How about we put together a donation for you to get a 2 cylinder John Deere and then put it in the 1025r. Or put a turbo in it? Great video series😂

@richardbaker6194 2 жыл бұрын

Cool 😎

@markwright3161 2 жыл бұрын

What is or was the idea with the narrow front wheels on tractors in the US? In US vintage shows (that I've only seen on KZfaq) the '3 wheeler' layout seems to be considerably more common than here in the UK. When was that common? Is it just an older style that predates the Fergies I've grown up with over here (as already vintage tractors on our farm that were/are still being used, small 'hobby' farm (now) that was a midsized farm when the Fergies were new that didn't grow 'with the times') so pre 50's, or was it just an engineering choice that better suited the US farmer's needs, where we needed more stability for farming more hilly terrain or something similar?

@TractorTimewithTim 2 жыл бұрын

Used with corn pickers and front mount cultivators.

@glenbreaks5448 2 жыл бұрын

Tractor Data shows a 24 pto hp for the A. They also list the Nebraska test for the A at 23.xx PTO HP. This test showed 39 ( I think?) It's quite a big difference. Was the Nebraska test low perhaps?

@TractorTimewithTim 2 жыл бұрын

This one likely ‘enhanced’ in some way :-)

@loosehandle1 2 жыл бұрын

No 39 that's gas pto hp,

@shawnperkins1159 2 жыл бұрын

Nothing like an old 2 cylinder!

@reaperhunter7297 2 жыл бұрын

Is that A stock? Also what size tires are it it looks good!

@reaperhunter7297 2 жыл бұрын

On it*

@rodbagley1686 2 жыл бұрын

Hands up for 1025

@Zanderthelab 2 жыл бұрын

Well now that you have an auto steer you can plant the whole yard with corn lmao. Might be able to get 100% yield out of that system and a new row seeder.

@mattphillips4260 2 жыл бұрын

would have been real cool if you could have found a diesel 2 cyl to put on the dyno did a lot more looking around and i am dead set on getting a 1025 just as soon as the ordeal settles out on mom passing away

@TractorTimewithTim 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear about your mom.

@mattphillips4260 2 жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim she is in a far better plae no pain no sickness hate that she is gone but i know she is more haapy now and i will get to see her some time soon

@alauer2101 Жыл бұрын

want to do a tug of war against my compact jd 750 ?

@alexthomas637 2 жыл бұрын

🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜😎😎😎👍

@larrynicholsiii8562 2 жыл бұрын

So like m&w turbos and things like that, that company is now rhino

@TractorTimewithTim 2 жыл бұрын

Yep.

@GaelPLANTIN 2 жыл бұрын

Hello all ! Well, I'm getting old (Scoop!) and my good old JD 310 is becoming less convenient to access... I'm considering buying an easier-to-access, hydrostatic model (I tasted it with my LT155 Lawn Tractor and I appreciate it!). But, I want to keep doing my hay in small bales with my Kuhn GMD 44 mower, my Someca 1320 baler with a bale consolidator. => If the 310 does not struggle with these materials, would a modern tractor, type JD 1025, 2025, Solis 26, Kioti 28 be capable of it? This video (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jddzgdefyaeup5c.html) testifies to the fact that a 1025 is capable of driving a section mower (which does not require any power, in my opinion...) but what about of a 4-disc mower? => This other video suggests that a 22hp achieves this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nLViqaic3LKYoX0.html I found this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qbZ0m92UztGYj2Q.html which testifies to the fact that a JD 1025 would be able to take my baler... But, some of my land is on a slope (nothing very strong, but, well, the 310 weighs 2t, the 1025 weighs 700kg, with a ladle, while the press is given for 980 kg...). In addition, I share their questions about the resistance of the PTO clutch: I can clearly hear, on the 310, the stresses exerted by the press piston... The 1025 is sold for 24hp and 17hp at the PTO, while the 310 is given for 32hp (I looked for the power at the PTO of the 310 without finding anything...). So, I seek your advice, can a recent 25cv replace my aging 32cv? Should we aim for the same power on a recent tractor? Your opinions would be valuable to me! Thanks in advance...

@TractorTimewithTim 2 жыл бұрын

I think you would be better off with a 3R for those tasks…especially coming from a 310. I usually recommend folks downsizing to stop at the 3R. You still get great maneuverability, but you get enough power to accomplish goals easily. 3039r or 3046r would be my recommendation. The videos you reference show the 1025r doing those tasks, but it is pushing the limits. Make sense?

@GaelPLANTIN 2 жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim Yes, this is wise, but it is best if i can heard it by an expert !😄 Thanks !

@gordonhagge7195 2 жыл бұрын

Tim promise me one thing, never wear shorts in public.

@Jon-mt5ov 2 жыл бұрын

No Oliver tractors at the show? That’s boring hahaha

@TractorTimewithTim 2 жыл бұрын

On another row.

@Jon-mt5ov 2 жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim great video! I love watching your videos. If you are ever in the St.Mary’s Ohio area and want to shoot a video I have a Kioti CK3510se w/cab and a 1950 Oliver 77. We own 17 acres of land and most of its woods with a 5 acre felid with corn in it now.