Factory safety/integrity includes the 3/4” he cut off. It’s a good mod but safety and integrity per factory specs has been compromised.

Devo Dar, wow! Thank you very much. I did a little bit of research, and i guess you could say i got the "KZfaq starter kit"

Jared Wins, great to hear!! That makes it all worth it!

Greg Sharp thanks! It's good to hear it helped. Enjoy the new storage!

Larson Beidler thanks for sharing! All worth it now. Lemme know if you do something cool back there!

That is awesome to hear! Glad it worked out for ya. Thank you for sharing!

That's great to hear! Hope it helps you in the future

John Cool Thanks for sharing! That's what it's all about! As long as it helped one person, it was worth the time. Thanks again

tomduncan1970 thanks! Hope it helps! Enjoy

Sean Chanka you're most welcome! Best o luck with the project?

Glad I could help!!! Hope the new space serves you well!

Friend of mine tried shims and washers and it turned into a crap shoothe crap shoot it bounced open constantly while driving on certain roads . this is much easier and professional working and looking than the other options. super simple as well!

Matt Phillips keep me posted! I'd like to see what you come up with

I hope it helps! I've been using this new space to store boots, rain gear, tools etc. And of course, sure makes cleaning a TON easier! Good luck

Glad to hear it brother! Enjoy! Thanks for posting

adam ant. Hope it helps! Let me know how it turns out. Thanks for watching

Todd Higgins thank you. Hope it works out. Lemme know if you find anything different in yours. Good luck!

I’m glad to hear it helped, or will help (hopefully). I’m also sorry to hear about the leaks and musty carpet! I sure hope this allows you to get to those areas! Don’t replace the carpet till you fix those leaks! I’m sure you already knew that though, lol. Good luck!

@@texmorgan9703 Hey Rusty, man it worked. My hooks were metal so I took a Sawzall and cut 1 inch off. 3/4 wasn’t enough when I tested it so I marked it during the test to cut just enough and have plenty of material left to have to sturdy hook. I have the Big Horn package that’s problem why. Cab vents were okay so I am going to test the leak with a water hose to see where the leak is and fix it. I’ve already silicone the heck out of my 3rd brake light. I will test it tomorrow. Thanks for all your help!!!

@@Mgezee that’s great news! Glad it helped. Best of luck with your leak, and your new space!

ROFL! Well that's a first! Been called a lot of things, but dunno bout that one! Thanks Ramon, hope it helped. Take care of that Ram, and she'll take care of you!

HoW2 i have to agree completely!

/#df¾¾**j(:k(n...... Yes

Nobody makes them to fold besides the mega cab even Ford you have the mod

The most frustrating part of my truck is the stupid backseat. I did this mod as soon as I got the truck from seeing a different video yrs ago. I have a 2014 Dodge ram 1500 sport. I made flip down covers so that the dog has a flat area to sit with the back seat up covering the storage area. I wish I had the infloor storage. I wanna root around and see if I can fabricate it but that's pretty heavy fabrication since I'll be cutting into the floor. I need to check out what's underneath there and see if anything is movable if it's in the way. otherwise I'm pretty sure they would have put them in other models.. Storage should always be priority in a pickup truck, I would assume but not for everyone I guess these days. Watching this video makes me love my cordless impact driver. So many bolts. Plus seat belt to be aware of.

@@jshapiro34 sucky designs

Woohoo!!! I love a success story!

Issac Craig thank you for the feedback! That's the goal here, so I'm glad i can help. Hope it turns out good for ya!

Got it done!! I read down below where a guy just took the two bolts out of the back seat top so I went that route. It works awesome. Thanks again for the idea in your video. 👍🇺🇸

Issac Craig congrats!! Any special plans for back there now?

Not much probably just gun storage.

Issac Craig perfect!

Glad to hear it worked out for ya! Hope you enjoy the space

F La, best of luck! Let us know how it turns out

Yes sir, it will lock in the up position, as long as your model does that now. Hope that makes sense.

Touché sir! I think you’re right. That’s a really good tip going forward! Thanks for sharing

@@texmorgan9703 it makes it so you dont have to pull the seat all the way out of the truck. I also used a hack saw right above the plastic squares to take off the bulk of the metal and the dremel to fine tune it. With the seat bolted in it doesn’t move everywhere when your going at it with the hack saw

Hey there, thanks for watching! If you take your time, and don’t shave TOO much off, you’ll end up with a finished product that will easily do both, fold forward or lock upright. Even if you take a little too much off, it’ll still lock upright, it’ll just be a little tricky to get the locks back in their groove to lock. It’ll make more sense when you get in there. But, to answer your question, yes it will lock in the upright position as well as fold down.

Yes, at least mine do. Locks up in place like normal. Hopefully yours will do the same! Good luck and thanks for watching!

I'm sure either works fine, but for people without a full system in their truck I can see this being the more economical solution. Worst case you have to replace a couple brackets which shouldn't cost too much, but as long as you cut them right I don't see it being an issue. Those Fox Acoustics boxes are real sweet though, been looking at one for awhile for my two Kicker 12s, 1.5 cu feet air space in an underseat box is impressive.

I'd rather keep my seats stock height

Where can I get the lift kit? How much is it?

I haven’t had that problem, so I can’t really say why or how to fix it. Maybe trash in the hinges? Or blockage of some kind? Let me know how it goes though! Best of luck!

paul Turner what box did you use?

Woohoo! Glad it worked out & thanks for sharing.

Thanks. They're by CoverKing and part of their "tactical line". www.coverking.com/kryptek Find your style number and shop around for the best price. I ended up getting mine from an eBay seller.

Christopher Yuchym thank you sir! And thanks for watching. Those are by CoverKing. I got those em THROUGH an ebay auction, they took a couple of weeks to make, but they're awesome, tacti-cool and indestructible! They came with several molle pouches and I've added a couple and a few morale patches to give it the ol Rusty touch. Try here as well: www.carid.com/coverking/?gclid=CjwKCAjwzYDMBRA1EiwAwCv6Jnqg11Mqw1OMroPfZ09YXXpq7OBw3lxk8I4JUIMByU-_2Vet8h6JChoCQD8QAvD_BwE Or search eBay for "Coverking Kryptek seat covers" and most of the auctions will let you specify your vehicles details.

Covercraft makes them as well...Was there enough room back there to be worth it?

At the bottom, approximately 6-8”. I can easily put my Muck boots back there, but i havent measured it yet

Please do keep me posted. I think you're right, my last Ram was an '04 and I'm pretty sure the seats, or at least the lock-in and folding style, were the same. Hope it works! Good luck!

Alan Taylor, they're made by CoverKing, and i found the best deal on eBay. Surprisingly enough, they were legit and fast. I'm not sure what you're asking about the front seat, but i have 2 captains chairs and a folding center console. They'll ask you all the right questions when you order, to ensure you get the right covers. Hope that helps

I have the two captain front seats I think I have the same as yours I have a 2017 2500 4x4 tradesman ill look them up thanks man great video on the seats im doing it to hide my ARs and ammo thanks man

Alan Taylor, amen to that! Thanks for stopping by! Best of luck and let me know if i can help in any way

XCALI3UR that sounds great. I'll look that up. I'll have to look at mine again, i want to say the latch on my back wall was welded, but i could be wrong. Good Intel!

They are welded in the 4th gen rams

I believe it does lock in the up position. I'll have to check when I get back. But if your seat locks up now, it will still do it after the mod.

I believe it should be an easy & cheap replacement. I actually over-cut slightly on one side and lost the white spacer piece. I think that would be worst-case-scenario, but I was able to epoxy it back into place easily and no more rattle. But yes, if desired, should be a simple part to replace.

Hector Camacho Look up magnetic gun.mounts and/or magnetic gun hooks. I'm thinking that'd be a quick, clean, easy affordable solution

RS OUTDOORS thanks will do right now

James Oberlin , while unfortunately I can't provide personal pictures of rifle storage, I can give you some links to examples of my original plan. I currently use the new space as storage room for misc items, like a tool bag, muck boots, rain gear, a jump-start pack etc. I've found that I typically have little passengers in the backseat and, while the space behind would be great for hiding weapons, in my case, they would not be readily accessible unless I hurl my children from their seats. The following links are some EXAMPLES of mounting options for both pistols & rifles. I AM NOT endorsing any of these products as I have no experience with any of them. Please do your own research. magbar.com/products/mag-bar-2-0®?variant=12774722928739&currency=USD&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2ITuBRDkARIsAMK9Q7MGW_qQLpT5lyE2Xn3B8kvXj1AlKrZCoDhUMKGnnd7Xb8FzfGR_aOEaAhS0EALw_wcB www.classicusc.com/store/p/702-MAGnet-Gun-Caddy.aspx?feed=Froogle&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2ITuBRDkARIsAMK9Q7OCQsIgrqkb7Kk2YsyXqKJEoRHXtS_15kIDYiu3JGVH66BmcWUY1vAaAtfLEALw_wcB Sorry I couldn't be more help! There is also the option of hard mounted hanging solutions. Rivets and crimp nuts would work great, I believe. Here's a link to some crimp nuts to check out. 30PCs 1/4"-20 Stainless Steel Rivet Nuts Flat Head Insert Nutsert 1/4-20UNC www.amazon.com/dp/B077GQLQZ8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_q8xWDb620AWPE Good luck! I'd really like to see what you come up with, if you wouldn't mind sharing

Ted Spence, Yessir, that did cross my mind, but I personally still didn't feel that was the best option. For a number of reasons that we don't have to go into, but mainly because I've got 2 kids in carseats back there. I just didn't feel right about altering the anchor points. I'm sure longer bolts would work just fine, but I don't think they'd be any easier. I feel like knowing now what I leaned while making this video, a guy could have this mod knocked out in 20-30 minutes, without spending a penny anywhere. And that's why I believe it's the best solution. But yes, longer bolts would still work, probably just fine, if you're not carrying small children

I understand about the small kids safety, got it! Had of few of them critters in my life, too. I guess, I didn't clearly state my point? I wasn't disrespecting your mod, just thinking about how to improve on it, or make it a little simpler. It was a great "How To" video. Oh yeah, and nice truck! The idea for the bolt is to make all 3 pieces hold together as one piece of metal. 1-The mounted nut in the floor of the cab. 2-The seat footing. 3-The bolt itself. (Locks all 3 together as one, when properly torqued.) So, in doing this mod, what I was thinking about is the "thread length" & "grip length", being two different things. The "thread" length is what holds the bolt securely in the cab floor. The "grip" length is the distance from the threads, to the shoulder of the bolt and holds the footing to the floor. What is most important here (doing it either way), is that it maintains the structural integrity of the seat and safety of your kids. With that said, if someone were to go out and buy 4 of the same grade bolt as the original, with the same thread length, BUT a 3/4" longer grip bolt from Dodge, you would accomplish the same thing (securely making one piece), without grinding on the truck. That's all I was trying to think through & suggest. (BTW-I am a retired Navy 20 year aircraft structural mechanic & instructor, also worked 10 years in the civilian airline/aircraft trade.) I wasn't trying to take the wind out of your sails, just thinking how it could be done a little easier. Thanks for allowing me to try & re-explain my thought process on this again and have a great one.

Ted Spence, No no sir! You're not hurtin anyone's feelings here. That's what this is all about...discussion, exploration, advancement, improving and building on! By the way, thank you for your service! God bless you! I understood what you were getting at, I did. And you are correct. I'm theory, you'd be accomplishing the same thing, once the new, longer bolts were used. And to "each his own", but the points I would like to make here, to help someone trying to make the same decision, are as follows: 1) If I were to alter the anchors, say by 3/4" blocks, and heaven-forbid something were to happen like an accident involving the children and they were injured, or worse. How would it look, having modified the seat, whether it had anything to do with the mod or not. Does that make sense? You smell what I'm steppin in? 2) using my method, there are no tools, or parts to buy, assuming you have a socket set and grinder, hacksaw or file. This can be done in 20 minutes or less, with limited mechanical experience, and zero investment. 3) Simplicity- nothing here to measure, design, fabricate. Nothing is being installed here that can potentially break, come undone, slip or fail. I like the KISS method, when possible and practical.

I hear ya and I smell what you're steppin' in. Better safe than sorry. (And man, I have been sorry more than a few times in my life!) I believe you're thinking a "shear force" as opposed to "tensile strength"? As long as that thread is completely down in the floor anchor, that seat ain't going nowhere! The part I didn't understand was about the MDF? That would scare the HECK out of me! Using WOOD instead of piece of flat stock/metal. Anyway, not trying to beat a dead horse here, I'll get outta here. Again, have a great day!

Same to you sir! Thanks for watching! I get exactly what you're saying. You're correct on all accounts. Like I said though, to each his own. For me, I just didn't feel right blocking up the anchors, and this way ended up being super easy and has been working great ever since. You have yourself a great weekend, and take care!

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Gizmologist1 it's a double wall that comes together at some parts, and looks to be about 2" apart at other points.

TY I was hoping it was as I want to secure a couple electronics packages to it with drill point screws without drilling through to the outside of the cab. BTW, I saw the other video about using MDF spacers and you are 100% correct. On impact, the rear seat would like fly right out of position and slam into the driver and front seat passenger.

I sure think it would! Not worth the risk, especially for anyone with kids or passengers back there. But like you said, it could just as easily fly forward and nail the backside of the driver's head! No thanks! I think you could use toggle bolts and they'd work perfectly for mounting on the back wall, without even having to drill! There are a couple holes that could be utilized.

Well I can't speak for all models, but mine will "click" when I lift the seat bottom all the way up/back, and locks in that position. I'm not sure exactly what is happening mechanically to lock into place, because all it takes to return the seat to the down position, is to simply pull the stowed seat bottom down/forward. There is a slight lifting motion in the seat as it comes forward. I should note that after the mod, I have to hold the seat back during this process to keep it from coming forward as well. Nice to have options finally! I hope this helps answer your question.

By the time I figured out the process, I had already gotten that past that point. But that is a good tip for anyone that hasn’t started yet! Thank you

Gizmologist1 Cuz I'm an idiot? Lesson learned, though, so hopefully someone else can avoid that uh-oh! Good catch

@@texmorgan9703 I wondered the same thing but if you hadnt and it worked ..youd a had to take it apart again to lock tite it .. twice was still pretty darn good for such an excellent mod ..kudos

David Booth , that's also true. Thousand ways to get there. Good point though

dannyboy9254 the only reason i didn't get a mega cab was because i started hot-shotting and heard that some 5th wheel campers have caved in the backs of mega cabs, so i avoided the risk all together. Would love to have one though

RS OUTDOORS i hear you. I have opted for the long bed as well and trade in my mega cab. I like long beds but also like megacab. Tough decision.

dannyboy9254 Frame extension & Western Hauler!!

MARTIN WOOLDRIDGE , winter gear is quite important! So, you left the seat bottom up and use the floor area for storage? Is that right? Off that's the case you may not have any need for the back wall area. Maybe a pick axe, snow shoes, 1,000ft of climbing/recovery rope, new springs for the snow plow?? I'm thinking smaller items that won't come out as often. What ya think?

truck gun mounted to back of seat?

Lonette Wallace heck yeah! There's tons of mounting options that would work on either the seat back, or the back wall.

Perfect for a fishing pole. I'm tired of mine rolling around on the floor.

ArcolaBridge I'm gonna say it's not quite big enough to stretch out completely without a slight bend in the knees. If you'd like, i'll measure it exactly and let you know, but different models and features will vary somewhat.

RS OUTDOORS people say you can put a queen size mattress in a mega cab?

ArcolaBridge I highly doubt it, but I can't say that I've ever tried, or measured. They ARE the biggest cabs I've been in, so maybe it's possible. You planning on getting kicked out of your bed???

RS OUTDOORS women don't stick around for more than a month or two anyhow. Trying to decide between a sprinter and Ram for a road trip vehicle. It's pretty hard to the beat Sprinter, especially now that it's 4x4 and a complete redesign in 2018.

ArcolaBridge Ooooh those are nice, but personally, I gotta have my truck. For a road trip vehicle though, I'm with ya on the sprinter! Those are nice. And easily convertible to a camper van! Look those up if you haven't already. Possibilities are endless

It still does everything it did before the mod. So, if your seat locked in the up position, this mod won't change that. The rear locks will slide free of the tabs, allowing the opportunity to fold the back down, or if you don't fold it down, the locks will slide back into the tabs like normal. That is, if you take your time and don't shave too much from the locking bars, as explained in the video. I can see where that would possibly cause issues.

@@texmorgan9703 ok thank you..I have a 2017 2500 tradesman with the same seat as you and as of now the back dont move. I'll see if the bottom seat locks in the up position before trying this. Thank you for the quick response!

Dustin Rust, great! Best of luck! Hope it helps

R.R. Hughes that's no fun! But maybe as long the hardness is matched

True, but would you trust them with your children's lives? Maybe? I didn't wanna take that chance with mine, hence the entire purpose of making this video, as mentioned multiple times throughout.

So, when you say “at full height”, you mean as you’re lifting the seat up, about the halfway point where the bracket/lock is at its highest point of travel, before it drops back down? How long is that dang hook on yours, total? If you cut enough off to clear the locking bar/post, how much would be left?

@@texmorgan9703 yes

@@johntugwell957 So how much would be left after you cut enough to clear?

@@texmorgan9703 I would be above the white plastic that goes around bracket

@@johntugwell957 hmmm. That way different than mine. I can’t share pictures in this thread, but I’d be happy to try to help via email if you’d like

MrPortdover ya know, I'm not sure. Someone else mentioned that in here somewhere, but i never looked at it like that. Can it be done??? Anyone??

Unfortunately, they do not release squat. They're safety latches only. That would've been too easy!

Hmmm, without looking at it, I can’t remember if the seat would pivot with only removing the rear bolts. You might be right though, not sure. Thanks for sharing, and if you try it, let us know how it turns out.

@@texmorgan9703 upon removing the bolts, the hook design isn't really one that you would want to cut. I ended up just installing the washers

@@texmorgan9703 After doing the mod myself, cutting the hooks was NOT the way to go as they have plastic insulators designed to eliminate rattles, simply cutting them back would ruin the insulators, one inch of flat washers IS the best route to take, I stand corrected.

Jim Cash. I smell what yer steppin in! Hope it helps

Ooooh that's a good tip. Thanks for sharing

@@texmorgan9703 great video tho, much better method than the other people with blocking up their seats. I will definately do it this way. Thank you

@@texmorgan9703 one question, when you want to fold the seats up normally and keep them folded up, do the backs flop around and come out of their hooks?

Stumpknocker22 , somehow when the seat bottom is at about half way up, the seat BACK is at its highest point in its lift. Then as the seat bottom continues to the fully folded up position, the seat BACK actually drops back down into the locks. So to answer your question, the seat stays locked into the upright position. Hope that helps. Let me know if I misunderstood the question.

@@texmorgan9703 Great thanks for the info, I have an 04 dakota, it is a bit different but pretty close to the same concept with the hooks.

Aw bummer. Hopefully you didn't make it to far into the project!

@@texmorgan9703 nope didnt start cutting. Anyhow thanks for the info tho

I'll work on that. Sorry to disappoint ya, but not much was done in the way of mounting "adult toys" lol. But the new area does house some spare boots, rain gear, 2 pairs of ski boots & jump-start pack! We should see what everyone's using the spot for!

Craig Noftall it's still locked in as much as it comes from the factory. I took just enough off the locking brackets to allow them to "unlock" and fold over, but still lock in when returned to normal position.

1in spacer under my boat? Are we on the same video?

@@texmorgan9703 sorry man 1in spacers under your bolts where you Bolt the seat to the body then the seat will lock-in place and you can get it to unlock to fold down you did not have to cut them

Yea maybe he thinks he has hatchback

@@Sanisani9 i store 2 amp 1 epicenter and 1 audio converter adapter back there.