1648 DIY Solar Panel From An Old Light Fitting Or LED TV

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Robert Murray-Smith

Robert Murray-Smith

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@ianbottom7396
@ianbottom7396 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t realise LEDS would generate. I also didn’t realise that Daffodils could be weaponised like that 😳
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
lol - well two things got from the video - win win lolol
@islandsedition
@islandsedition Жыл бұрын
Presumably, you could waterproof the LEDs/solar cells and just keep that end of the panel in some water to keep them cool and maintain a high efficiency.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
that's a good idea mate - cheers
@islandsedition
@islandsedition Жыл бұрын
Thanks @@ThinkingandTinkering, very occasionally, I do have them.
@kelvinsparks4651
@kelvinsparks4651 Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see what a panel made from led tape lighting strips would produce. Interesting video as always.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
for sure mate and cheers
@ladamurni
@ladamurni Жыл бұрын
I did not know that, that if you shine light on a Led it would generate electricity. I have learned something today, thank you Robert!
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@hanslepoeter5167
@hanslepoeter5167 Жыл бұрын
That's impressive. I never thought you could run a fan on that. I have seen a few projects where led's are used as photodiodes but always for measurement of light. Not for power generation. Good one !
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
no they don't produce much - be good to preplace them with actual solar cells for sure - but it is interesting
@MrTubeuser12
@MrTubeuser12 Жыл бұрын
it's awesome how some things can be repurposed to do something other than what they were originally designed, and often quite easily. great video as always.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@stanleykapasa6958
@stanleykapasa6958 Жыл бұрын
thank you professor Robert, I love your videos! mainly about solar energy!
@CPeter0912
@CPeter0912 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding Robert! Magic!! Thanks.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
do you know - it really is lol
@angelusmendez5084
@angelusmendez5084 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Pretty neat 👏 Thanks for sharing! 👏
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@brainretardant
@brainretardant Жыл бұрын
Take a look at antenna pigments as in plants. Shifting the absorption emiision to harvest able frequency of cells
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
that's a nice tip mate - will do - cheers
@brainretardant
@brainretardant Жыл бұрын
I recently came across a deskcycle by 3d innovations under the desk exercise peddle device. It uses magnetic hysteresis damped disc with a few pulleys to increase the speed of the disc. It will lend itself to a good generator build because of the 1:~25 pedal ratio. Keep an eye out for one. Love to see your take on a build. I'm looking at adding magnets to disc passing added coils or adding a pulley/chain to drive external PMMotor. Love your work
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
another good one mate - cheers - I will also be looking that one up lol
@mikegilman8
@mikegilman8 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos...knocks the cobwebs out from between the ears....carry on.
@settlece
@settlece Жыл бұрын
im loving all this thanks
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@pallen9044
@pallen9044 Жыл бұрын
Will I build a LED solar panel over the weekend? Most likely not. Will I use the Sharp Daffodil comment at work tomorrow? Yes!👏👏👏
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
lololol - go for it mate it is one of my faves
@nevyngould1744
@nevyngould1744 Жыл бұрын
A, poke up the where with a what now? 😂 Never heard it expressed quite that way. Full on belly laugh. Thanks mate. Awesome
@Baikur1
@Baikur1 Жыл бұрын
The hot side of a refrigerator and a closed loop cycle of Langmuir torch - perfect solar power collector.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
solar thermal?
@Baikur1
@Baikur1 Жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering , high temperature thermal - Helmholtz, not Gibbs. See Langmuir's work with GE "battolysers" (hydrogen).
@HansHartman
@HansHartman Жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@vikasjohnsimbala813
@vikasjohnsimbala813 Жыл бұрын
Hii sir huge fan of your ideas
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
wow - cheers mate
@biocargo
@biocargo Жыл бұрын
gran idea amigo, si lo piensas, es logico. gracias por el video.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@davidahmad6090
@davidahmad6090 Жыл бұрын
Very good content sir, my only worry is that in a hot country the plastic would degrade very quickly and its light guiding properties Will be los.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
probably - I believe there are glass versions of light guides - but I have no idea where you would get them
@davidahmad6090
@davidahmad6090 Жыл бұрын
Yes i think there are plexi glas versiones but very very expensive. Let hope there are cost efective uv resistant plastics. Any way excelent news, thanks again sir.
@infinnite4938
@infinnite4938 Жыл бұрын
Ooo 1648, maybe another of my favourite numbers as its the amount of chapters in the novel battle through the heavens.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
awesome lol
@loydsa
@loydsa Жыл бұрын
Hi Robert that was really interesting as your video's always are. I wonder if you have any specific knowledge tucked away in your vast brain on solar panels for diffuse light. I am moving to Shetland hopefully soon and for 8 months of the year the light can best be described as "diffuse" 🙂 If you don't have time to reply, that's fine, I will still love your channel. Best regards Sarah
@michelbisson6645
@michelbisson6645 Жыл бұрын
Very good
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@OverlandOne
@OverlandOne Жыл бұрын
What if you inverted that piece with the diamond shapes on it and placed it on a regular solar panel? Would that not gather light from various angles and send it down to the cell? It may block some light from directly over head as it is not totally transparent but maybe that difference could be made up for and more if it gathered light from multiple angles as the sun passes over...like a stationary sun tracker of sorts?
@kevinleebailey
@kevinleebailey Жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking too ! 👍 A solid state solar tracker. No moving parts.
@OverlandOne
@OverlandOne Жыл бұрын
@@kevinleebailey Exactly.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
kind of like a fresnel lens? well of a type? I don't know - I must try it out
@jamesjensen5000
@jamesjensen5000 Жыл бұрын
So... LED’s go both ways... the old “in and out”... cool.
@Buzzhumma
@Buzzhumma Жыл бұрын
They could be called light absorbing diodes😱
@jamesjensen5000
@jamesjensen5000 Жыл бұрын
@@Buzzhumma photon absorption
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
isn't it - all semiconductors will do this - you can do it with old transistors too
@Buzzhumma
@Buzzhumma Жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering you mean the can top ones?
@KO-hu4wg
@KO-hu4wg Жыл бұрын
No fire no fuel no problems, raise water without effort
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
indeed
@McRootbeer
@McRootbeer Жыл бұрын
I wonder if these light channels would help speed up the charge time of the Prussian blue battery? Maybe make the PBB a tower or tube and use light guides to divert sunlight through them to charge. Kind of like a tree 🌲.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
wow - brilliant mate - that I am going to try
@romeoquintero6628
@romeoquintero6628 Жыл бұрын
Great video this is a teacher given us all jewels here. 👍👍👍 what is the actual name for the super white reflective plastic that shoots the light back??? And the light guide & light diffuser plastics can they be purchased... sir can you make a video about how does light guide & light diffuser works. Thank you & much success to you & all your projects 👊🇨🇦🇬🇹👊
@Good4All4Good
@Good4All4Good Жыл бұрын
So, for DIY, would you use this light panel, w/ 2 strips of Gallium Arsenide solar cells, to get a CPV + GAPV solar panel?
@patslee1394
@patslee1394 Жыл бұрын
great informative video as usual. does the filter only direct the light from the top & bottom? as that's where the LED's were. if not could possibly double power using the sides also? with LED's as receivers. if i may ask whats you thoughts on Joule thief circuits ?
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
yeah it is only from front to side mate and I like the joule thief - good for stepping up low voltage to usable voltage
@gideonlapidus8996
@gideonlapidus8996 Жыл бұрын
I have taken apart square led light panels in the past to see how they operate. I am very impressed with this idea and am wondering why big tech is not persuing this methodoly in the manufacture of pv panels if it means greater efficiency?
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
there are good reasons - I thought I might do a video on that mate
@gr1f1th
@gr1f1th Жыл бұрын
If these can capture light better "off-angle" then several vertical "Slats" could vastly improve the power generated in a smaller footprint.
@manitoba-op4jx
@manitoba-op4jx Жыл бұрын
you could leave it fixed and get good power throughout the day
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
for sure
@destinny29
@destinny29 Жыл бұрын
thats cool nice one m8
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
glad you liked it mate - cheers
@AverLife
@AverLife Жыл бұрын
At the same time, it will reflect heat away from the house, good for summer.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
never thought about that - true enough
@terrypetch5492
@terrypetch5492 Жыл бұрын
What happens when you fuse the edges together of two such lenses, but 180 degrees, so one is flipped over? Does it act like a periscope? Can it be used to bend light around objects?
@bigonprivacy2708
@bigonprivacy2708 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting Rob. Thank you. The first question is about fit. The smallest cells I found were 30x25mm. That still seems to big to make that fit at the edges. Sounds like some adjustment would have to be made. Unless I'm missing something. I didn't have coffee today so that has high probability! Thanks again for all that you do.
@technicalfool
@technicalfool Жыл бұрын
A quick googling doesn't turn up much, but I bet there's probably some specialist provider of parts who'd do you a thousand little strips meant to go in pocket calculators and such. Or maybe a small handful if they offer "sample" packs.
@TheBaconWizard
@TheBaconWizard Жыл бұрын
Just a suggestion, I've not given it a ton of thought; but how about 2 such light guides stacked? (No reflector in the top one of course)
@kennethjessop6073
@kennethjessop6073 Жыл бұрын
@@TheBaconWizard Or more.
@TheBaconWizard
@TheBaconWizard Жыл бұрын
@@kennethjessop6073 Possibly, yes. Obviously it would reach a point of diminishing returns, quite quickly I think. But anyhow, the cost of making the entire panel the same thickness as an of-the-shelf high efficiency solar cell might not be too much.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
I have one in my desktop calculator that is only 10mm wide mate - I did find 100 12mm by 38mm panels on aliexpress for UK£9
@CUBETechie
@CUBETechie Жыл бұрын
Is there any way to use a pyramid on the edges? So the panel is 5mm but can it be extended to 50 mm
@charlesurrea1451
@charlesurrea1451 Жыл бұрын
That reflective white panel may be infused with reflecting crystal like material that makes it more so.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
it did make some nice refractions patterns in the sun
@technosaurus3805
@technosaurus3805 Жыл бұрын
Windows are a huge source of energy loss, but they also save energy by letting light in. If we used a lens to focus the light into a fiber optic cable and then put that same light back into a diffuser, we could get the same amount of light without the heat loss and the amount of light could be easily adjusted from 0-100% at the optical coupler. Even if you only used lenses, like the rectangular, flexible Fresnel lenses, you could increase the area of insulation by over 50%.
@jaxjax2011
@jaxjax2011 Жыл бұрын
DId you read Ikaru
@ericwazhung
@ericwazhung Жыл бұрын
I recall light-guides like this as an alternative to skylight windows... And, having once had a normal skylight window installed, I can vouch for the amount of extra heat all that sunlight created, radiating off the new walls in the attic. I dunno about replacing windows, in general, but for ceiling-lighting, it sounds great... can even be brought through several floors, or maybe even between floors from panels on outside walls.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
there is a lot of research in this area for exactly that reason mate - it's called integrated solar I believe
@conceptofeverything8793
@conceptofeverything8793 Жыл бұрын
Have you sir perhaps tried any food preservatives (antioxidants) in preparation of a dye sensitized solar cell? Also, what about mixing two different dye types (anthocyanin and chlorophyl) to increase the absorption spectrum?
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
I haven't tried mate
@conceptofeverything8793
@conceptofeverything8793 Жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering That's a bugger, were hoping for some feedback. :) How about these do-it-yourself dye sensitized solar cells you've been talking about in previous episodes? Are these serving you well? Frankly, I'm asking because I can get a hold of a van full of LCDs for free, but the catch is, I either take the van, or I don't take any at all. Wouldn't really want to get stuck with a bunch of LCDs without a purpose, lol. Thanks there.
@KO-hu4wg
@KO-hu4wg Жыл бұрын
You can't get better than capillary action to raise water, gravity turbine, raising Arizona
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
ok
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Жыл бұрын
Add more LEDs on second and third strings ? to triple ampage
@silverpc4611
@silverpc4611 Жыл бұрын
you could try a difuser on top of a solar panel that distributes the light evenly with no direct sun light. Could reduce heat significantly. Output ????
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
I like that idea mate - thanks for sharing
@Buzzhumma
@Buzzhumma Жыл бұрын
So are you saying that I can put the telly outside in the sun all day and bring it in at night and just watch it for free? Come on surely not ! 😂
@ranksns408
@ranksns408 Жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha u will be frying your telly
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
lol - in theory I guess so - in practice I am not so sure and you might be able to watch it for say 1 minute or so lol
@garwilliams1
@garwilliams1 Жыл бұрын
Could you put them over a panel and improve efficiency?
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
I don't know - good point
@ranksns408
@ranksns408 Жыл бұрын
Will it work if we stick a solar panels on that shine the LED on the panel up close with same backlight
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
I would think so - but the power loss through that would be huge
@ranksns408
@ranksns408 Жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering you see Rob getting 12v is more than enough for inverter, connect the 60w led strip to a panel size acrylic board, stick violet colour reflective sheet to the acrylic board if we shine led will it work
@ranksns408
@ranksns408 Жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering and also some way to put cold water circulation under the panel, fix a water tank under the panel
@dippyduty6163
@dippyduty6163 Жыл бұрын
In the previous video, there was about a 10,000% increase of space needed to concentrate the light in a small area for a 50% gain in output. If space isn't an issue or the intention is to just run a very small solar panel, then it would work great.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
you know the previous video was just a report on what is being researched - you can just look it up on google scholar - what you are saying doesn't sound right - but I will check it out - or you could confirm it if you felt like it
@dippyduty6163
@dippyduty6163 Жыл бұрын
​@@ThinkingandTinkering I was a bit uncertain as well. I meant to comment, on the other video at the time stamp of 5:26 . It would take a lot of typing to put everything into context, but I'll give it a shot. Using the diagram at that time stamp, let's say that you have a 1 inch or 2.54 cm square area of concentrated light. The area needed to concentrate that light is 100 inches or 254 cm. That's where I was getting the 10,000% increase in area. I know the drawing at that time stamp was just an example, but it's still going to take a much larger area of space to concentrate the light. A second 1 inch or 2.54 cm panel could be used to double the output, while saving space. Depending on the application, that increased area could create a shading effect on surrounding plant life; hampering the production of oxygen. Snow could pose a threat to solar concentration, where as, the black surface of a panel helps melt snow and ice. Solar concentration might improve electrical generation at night when certain phases of the moon are brighter. In time, the technology may improve, and require a much smaller space to concentrate the same amount of light. I can see how this might work in various applications, but I see the drawbacks as well. I don't know if that helps, or maybe I'm still missing something.
@xanataph
@xanataph Жыл бұрын
The easiest and almost the cheapest way to get low powered solar panels is to harvest them from solar garden lights.
@shellymitchell9660
@shellymitchell9660 Жыл бұрын
Why not add more LEDs and a boost converter
@nonyabusiness9747
@nonyabusiness9747 Жыл бұрын
I like it that they are white.
@nonyabusiness9747
@nonyabusiness9747 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your videos but often I find myself puzzled not understanding or thinking somehow I missed some steps.
@nonyabusiness9747
@nonyabusiness9747 Жыл бұрын
I am electronically challenged and I am trying to learn from you creative ways to produce electricity because I live offgrid and am trying to wrap my wee brain around it all
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
for sure
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
if something really captures your imagination mate it is always best to have a read around it - it helps get hold of the ideas
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
the most important thing is trying mate - you get there sooner or later
@evaemma5962
@evaemma5962 Жыл бұрын
I like the video Please tnt I want to make an induction heater i have only 5 of bc 547 transistors will it work. Without Mosfet transistors
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
the power dissipation on those is only 500mW isn't it? - an induction heater uses a lot of power - I think you are likely to burn them out mate
@-COBRA
@-COBRA Жыл бұрын
These days old (LED)LCD Tvs are basically free. People throw them to the trash and buy a new one when they brake.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
yep and they can be so useful to the creatively minded - nice tip mate cheers
@808pathfinder
@808pathfinder Жыл бұрын
I would use cd's
@matteoricci9129
@matteoricci9129 Жыл бұрын
Without going to gan you could use the one from calculator several of those, they are 24% efficient
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
that's a nice idea mate - you must be able to buy those bulk - I have a solar calculator right here on my desk and the solar panel is one 1cm wide - I wonder where you get them?
@matteoricci9129
@matteoricci9129 Жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering websites like rs components or farnell or mouser, they are electronic components for prototyping
@jamesjensen5000
@jamesjensen5000 Жыл бұрын
So, does this mean the broadcaster could see us watching tv? Or listen?
@galaxya40s95
@galaxya40s95 Жыл бұрын
Speakers can be used as microphone. So...maybe
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
I have no idea
@Flashahol
@Flashahol Жыл бұрын
I had no idea you could get even usable energy out of LED''s that way! That's some Cyber-Punk stuff right there...
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
for sure mate
@quagmier3
@quagmier3 Жыл бұрын
Great video I had no idea you could make electricity that way. Could you get enough power out of that to charge a cell phone?
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
yeah I think you could - it produced a surprising amount
@seasonallyferal1439
@seasonallyferal1439 Жыл бұрын
I've been wondering why solar panels don't use facets from the gem industry. They've been figuring out how to channel light for 1000s of yrs.
@KO-hu4wg
@KO-hu4wg Жыл бұрын
Wearing a mask for the future 😉
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
ok
@snowpaw360
@snowpaw360 Жыл бұрын
Would also be cheaper to recycle
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
for sure
@KO-hu4wg
@KO-hu4wg Жыл бұрын
Blinded by the light, give up your mind
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
ok
@KO-hu4wg
@KO-hu4wg Жыл бұрын
Imagine a floating pyramid raising water to let the water fall to turn a turbine, for nowt
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
indeed
@KO-hu4wg
@KO-hu4wg Жыл бұрын
Cap Hilary
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
lol
@modelmickey
@modelmickey Жыл бұрын
Love the clickbait thumbnail. Didn't know they had solar panels in 1648 😕
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