My thoughts exactly! thanks for watching

No you have to give it 5 extra pumps then it becomes comparable to a 50 bmg...😂😂😂😂😂😂👍

@@Ren505nm when I was younger I didn’t know any better with my BB gun but I would pump that thing 20 times before I couldn’t pump it anymore. I would shoot at the tin wall of our hog barn, which was about 50yds away and that BB would just smack the piss out of it in the blink of an eye. I’m really surprised I’ve had that BB gun still working for the past 10 years. The trusty Crosman pumpmaster. Not a speck of rust and I’ve done absolutely no maintenance to it besides the 1 time I Greased the pump lever.

@@STKO2011 I regret to inform you I've hunted a turkey that was in a large group they ate over 10 of my fully matured melon plants leaving nothing but a sprig with no leaves or flowers,so I got out my .30 breakbarrel with 40x illuminated scope ,laser sight,canted sight,and a nice sling mounted on and put my shot center on the left side towards the spine of the bird ,the first shot ricochet off the wing and sent feathers across the shot path snapping the wing in two, the second shot was a both leg and body shot closely missing the entrails and ruining the meat ,I took a disabling shot which went almost clear through, it contacted the leg muscles and ripped out the other side leaving a large cavity,it went into the birds body smashed through the muscles on its back and came out at the top of the leg at the joint, it went into the bird for the third time destroying it's leg with a huge impact point where all the energy was dumped, I found the pellet while cleaning... it was sitting in a cavity inside the compound leg fracture between bones ,broke completely in half through the bird with a clearly open oozing entry wound ,and the third shot was for uhm humane reasons I put the shot into it's spine sending it down immediately it was light out for the tough bird in under a second.

If it would have hit a rib it wouldnt have killed it. arrows shoot at lungs and small calibers hit the neck

definitely!

the Daisy 880 is underestimated like that too, 500 to 650 fps from 5 to 10 pumps depending on pellet weight may not sound like much... but, when you find a pellet sweet spot of max pumps and still accurate, you're dime size grouping at 20 yards. through an eye, ear, or temple, its going to wreck stuff 3-4" deep.

I had a .22 Crosman back in the seventies. I now have a single stroke.22 Gamo. The crosman was better….at ten pumps.

​@@cosmicraysshotsintothelight mate PCP and high end break barrels are the most dangerous the shoot pellets bolts arrows and .22 has taken hogs feral cats even deer at 30 yards a lot has changed Edit your right about that crosman though it was more powerful than what they tell us

@@jaybanks2709 Hey brother, give me some ideas on best one for quick loading and super powerful, thanks

Yep!

I agree its not about grouping its about the placement or zero in

Perhaps in many cases, but even a 22lr has pretty close to 20x the energy of a .177 pellet from an air rifle. Dont be trying to hunt deer with a little sub 10 ftlb airgun, your more likely to cause unnecessary pain and suffering and likely to not actually be able to recover the deer. In an apocalyptic survival situation its interesting to know that it could happen if that is your only option

@@mbburry4759 people don't use .177 for deer. Pellets go up to .50cal.

@@mbburry4759 yeah just because the deer died from that pallet doesn't mean it's right it's completely unethical and most likely the deer suffered and it was a double long shot so the lungs probably filled up with blood and the animal drowned

May daughter had a Red Ryder. Shot my lab with it. He didn’t get hurt, but I wanted to make a point. So I took her out with her gun, my .22 and a can of tomato sauce. I told her to press on the can. Then to press on her arm. I said we’re a lot softer than that, right...she nods. So is Bear. Shot the can with hers and it actually put a hell of dent in it. Actually penetrated it, cracked its surface. Shot it with mine, and just exploded it everywhere. Got her, me, everywhere. I told her they’re both little bullets. She could have killed Bear if she had hit him in the right place. I think of the BB gun fights we had as kids and other stupid crap we did, dirt clods, rock fights......and I’m not sure how the hell we all lived this long. She was raised around guns from day one. She could handle one, safety wise, just as good as any recruit in basic. Wouldn’t flag you, good muzzle awareness, but that kid, that curiosity, is something that needs to be satisfied by showing them what these can do and how dangerous they can be. She’s a full grown woman now, hard to believe, and she is very safe with firearms, and a proficient shooter.

@@visamedic I've dropped pigeons with my red Ryder because of where I placed the shots and they all just got turned off as the BB hit them

Someone in the UK did a study on fatal pellet wounds. Lots on google.

I agree but airsoft and paintball unless you are shooting something TINY will not kill. I have been shot with and shot other humans with airsoft and paintballs even in the throat no one died. However if you shoot someone in the eye there could obviously be serious damage

To add pellet guns and bb guns should never be shot at anything accept what they are legally intended for and THOSE guns can kill a animal or a human.

I have a Ruger .177 air rifle that's 1200 fps. and I have shot through 1 inch pine board at 50 yards. Pellet choice is important.

Aim for the eye.

@@zachjohnson818 which pellets are you using?

@@zachjohnson818 best pellet for wood ?

Almost silent except for the supersonic crack, no muzzle flash and a small puff of air. You could maybe take out gunman if you were in the right spot and were a good enough shot. Would have to stay hidden for sure.

I've got a .35 cal air rifle that can shoot an 80 grain pellet just under 1000 fps, or 140 grain cast bullets at 700-750, _those_ things can penetrate lol. Up until recently before I found out about big bore airguns I thought those .22 pellet guns were peak performance lol. And a .35 cal isn't even that big anymore, there are .45 cals, .50 cals, and now there is a rifle called the AEA Zues that fires .72 caliber 820 grain pellets at 900 fps, it makes 1500 ft-lbs of muzzle energy, my .35 makes about 200 lol. I want one, they're $1,200 but I kinda don't care lol...

I go sometimes right threw a 2x4 with Gamo varmint .177 at 20yrds

I have a 0.25cal (6,35mm) air rifle with power around 800-900 fps. It kills even hogs at 60-70m if you aim right and use the right pellets (for example H&N Hornet). Most people consider air-rilfes as toys, but they are not.

@@dmo848 Sorry to say we dont believe you , my 25 and 22 cal at 1000 fps wont go thru 2x4 !!! , they go right thru a 1 ijnch board or plywood

@@Nick-GR Hello, sorry for bothering you, do you think a .22 air gun with 1000 fps can killa hog at 40 meters?

Not meant to be a dis James. Your target is actually quite appropriate!

Doggone, I'm digging a hole deeper LOL such as... your target is appropriate....... a.k.a. BOLOGNA LOL. Sometimes you can't win for losing 😎 Rock on my friend! Please accept any hurt feelings with my condolences.

haha you're good!

For those of you unfamiliar,the meat target consists of two layers of fleece,followed by blah,blah,....

And I have the coconut in a helmet.

Who said it was lingering death ,,,,,

@@denniscampbell8240 - I said it was lingering, and that's based on several decades of experience with both pellet rifles and wounds. I say that with 99.99% assurance. If it was a successful brain shot, the deer wouldn't have gotten away. The fact that it did get away means it wasn't a brain shot, and anything short of a brain shot would lead to a lingering death.

@@kirkboswell2575 not nessacerly. How do you know it was a lingering death ,,,,do you know the animal was suffering in,pain ,,,no ,,,,,people make it sound like the animal was in terrible pain and that hunters dont care were they shot the animals ,,,,this deer coukd of died from bleed out which wasn't a lingering dead ,,,,if it had had its leg blown off then it could of died weeks or mths later then that's a lingering death ,,,,,,we don't know that ,,,,we just know it died ftom the shot ,,,and found later

I'm pretty sure that if I was shot but not killed instantly and managed to avoid actual capture of the shooter. Thereafter my death would be suitably classed as a lingering and painful death. You talk of bleeding out as non painful ? With respect have you ever bled to death? The fact you are alive tells me no...

@@kirkboswell2575 even a brain shot will lead to the animal blinded, in pain, confused. Suffering a bleed on the brain. It’s not a clean kill unless it drops where it stands.

Yeah but 0.22LR bullets weigh about 5x as much, so there's 5x as much energy at the same velocity. Even the heaviest 0.177s are only 20 grains, which is half the 0.22 LR avg weight. And that airgun rated for 1200fps is not shooting a 20 grain 0.177 pellet anywhere near that, maybe 600-700fps.

@@IntrebuloN thank you for the input, i have edited my original comment to specify caveats

@@nobody2021 480 fps co2 powered Crosman 1911BB, at close range face shots (holds 20 BB's in its magazine) would definitely drop someone with one through an eye. its NOT meant for self defense but could be used for that, without worry of rounds flying through a neighbor's place.

A 45acp travels at 800 fps and is deadly so yes on the 177 flying at 1k+

Yeah because i hate that shit lol. I almost starved in jail because i will not eat bologna lol

@@wslvingtsun6768 I don’t know how people can scarf down bologna sandwiches. Weird disgusting pink meat.

@@leeroyjenkins4102 i totally agree, its sometimes got a green hue, if its jail bologna lol

@@wslvingtsun6768 Yea that’s pretty gross

I've had mackeral patties on the list for a few days now. But my wife turns her nose.

It's a toy

I shoot them in my mouth for after dinner mints

@@zealotzealot4848 it's not it is real dangerous

@@zealotzealot4848it certainly is not lol. “Toys” aren’t lethal

make a vid ...to see if is true .....

I was out shooting many years ago with my old Webley Vulcan and a wild boar broke cover and charged me, I brought the rifle to about hip height and fired in panic, I managed to shoot it just behind the shoulders by the spine and it went lame. I phoned the gamekeeper and he came and "sent it on it's way" in the end. Bit of a brown trousers moment for me lol

Yes..

You treat any gun with the upmost respect and you treat it as if it was loaded.

@MiGueLiooo Gonzalezzz I remember my first BB gun. It was Christmas time and I spent so much time shooting cans and other improvised targets outside, even though it was bitter cold. I still have it, haven’t used it since I was a kid though.

@MiGueLiooo Gonzalezzz Nice, I just bought a Crossman np for small game. Canadian geese love to stay in my yard, shit on everything, and get aggressive when I try to shoo them away, one just might end up in the turkey roaster now lol.

Yes

Amen to that, I've penetrated sheet metal with my 22. Air rifle with the right pellets

Very true i bought a $100 dollar remington express .22 cal and that thing penetrates sheet metal like nothing and goes tru 3/4" wood with most cheap pellets with alloy pellets that things rips thru them

@@Altonivel93 nice! I've got the same gun but it's the suppressed version of the remington express I installed a new spring which comes out at about 18 ft lbs can take out any animal here in the uk with the right shot placement.

I think the word "instantly" is an overestimation.

Anything will kill with perfect shot placement

Head shots only. And only after you made up your mind that jail doesn't sound so bad.

Agreed. It's unethical imo to hunt in any way that you're not fairly certain of a merciful and quick death....unless you're starving and desperate or in fear for your life or that of someone else's life. Should be using ballistic gel/dummy or targets to make his point.

I can tell you anything that is not a standard pellet, a standard pellet does not have a tip a standard tip can be from hollow points to round points

It looks to be a Luxor copper pellet

Looks like the cheapest lead daisy or gamo or 'beeman' pointed pellet you can get, which makes sense if you're desperate or dumb enough to try to shoot a deer with a pellet gun. But hey, if you're hungry just about anything will work.

Honestly

@@randomidiot8142 Well no, a piece of shit probably won't work, but this might

thanks for watching!

H&n hornets?

5.1 gr. gammo Raptor is loud....

The Gamo Red Fire pellets with that plastic ballistic tip will take down grackles easily at 35 yards Punches right through those thick feathers. And that's at a speed of only around 640fps out of a Daisy 880. So yeah, that's a good pellet for pest control.

@@trevorjameson3213 red fires work good on squirrel as well.. especialy if you take a shot through the shoulders cause it shatters as it passes through..

I have killed a bobcat with a Gamo whisper Mach 1 .22cal at 25 yards.

Paul Mango : GAMO is My Brand! Killed a lot of game with My Old Trustee Turbo Whisper .22 ; then retired it in favor of My more compact Wild Cat Whisper .22 ... now I’ve upgraded to a Swarm Magnum in .22 . The Mach 1 Pig Man edition has been one I’ve wanted for a while . I’m sure a bob cat would not withstand its killing abilities

Yup gamo gold pba

nah lmao

A Daisy BB gun only has 8fpe. This rifle has about 17fpe. Huge difference.

Well... Red Ryders are jokes. Mine didn't shoot fast when new and now it visibly drops a full foot at like 20 feet XD

@Paul Rispress II a Crossman legacy or a 2100 has about the energy of a 22lr so it would definitely kill a human even 800 is enough to kill you good home defense imo 2 pitbulls and Crossman 2100 vs intruders let's just say that they were lost...

Yea.i know "someone" that did that once myself.1 shot right in the heart with a 22.killed it dead.

I know you can take down big game with air guns but that doesn’t mean it’s ethical

I once took down a year old fucker with a baseball sized rock on our property. I play baseball and at the time was doing around 95 to 96 the highest. As soon as it perfectly hit the middle of its skull it made this noise that I just knew right away it's toast. It crawled and had a little seine then kaput.

@@jordandesjardins9330 That depends on how hungry you are.

@@EarthSurferUSA very true

Only an asshole would intentionally shoot a chipmunk. Come on man

.22 PCP air rifles are the BEST

At supersonic speeds the pellet (diablo) will tumble and go nuts. That's why no supersonic ammo uses the diablo shape. Also most airgun pellets are pure(ish) lead and too soft for use at high speed.

Mines putting out 1100 fps it’s a daisy model 1101s break barrel Only $63

​@@aakilifelder7265Imagine dieseling that pellet....

Yeah, those guys need to educate themselves. There are videos of guys killing Cape Buffalo in Africa with big bore air rifles.Also FYI big bore air rifles were used by snipers in the Napoleonic wars. To be caught with one of those rifles was death penalty.

thanks!

@@STKO2011 Thank you so much...

To be fair the Girardoni air rifle they used was .46 caliber but it was quick loading from a 19 round magazine. The reason it never became popular was it took 1500 pumps to fill the air tank for about 30 shots and it was fairly delicate.

Thank you!

@@rockwellrhodes7703 those 50s get up too 600+ fpe

I agree that it was a PCP air rifle

No

Thanks!

@@STKO2011 I really appreciate it thanks

Yes but it's able to kill a deer and drop it within seconds with the shot placement and the fpe and fps

Well right now we have a ammo servial going on lol

Yeap 100% in agreement, I would not hunt anything bigger than a jack rabbit with a airgun. You need more weight and velocity to penetrated to any vital organs. A .177 does not meet that. I have friends in S.America that hunt bigger animals but they are using .25 or 30 cal air pellets. My little gamo whisper and goldflite can't even penetrate a tire side-cut out nor a block of gel more than 2.5" inches. I have pull these capture pellets and you probably could even reused if you had to. No deformation.

@@kfelix2934 sub 500fps ?

@@marknieuwejaar1075 not sure what your asking but sub 500fps is not enough energy to get a clean kill in a .177 airgun no matter what projectile you use based on my use and experience.

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Been their done that just a mere lad

That can't feel good.

Mine travels 1200 feet per second

So basically it'll kill a squirrel. I wonder what gun was Actually used to kill the mule deer. I doubt it was a break barrel.

@@joeschmoe511 break barrels are probably one of the most powerful next to pcp. Spring loaded that is since you can modify the sprigs with steel spacers placed behind the springs or even get a stronger spring. I have a Crossman Fury rated at 1200fps, around 8-900 actual. I can shoot through a barn 25 yards out using basic 5.5-7.5grain pellets. I myself have underestimated the power of these things. I bought 11.6grian pellets and I would not want to be hit with that one. I've seen ballistic gel tests done on pellets, they have insane penetration power.

@@Templar-jj3ig I agree. They're super powerful, and I wouldn't want to be hit by one either. But a .177 or .22 or even a .25 caliber pellet shot from a break barrel air rifle would have to be such a perfect freak accident where the pellet passes between the rib bones and both lungs of a mule deer. I seen a small white tail doe, under 120 pounds, taken at 25 yards with a .357 cal 145 gr pellet shot from a Benjamin Bulldog. The pellet did pass through both lungs but not the hide. It wound up in the side of the deer's neck at the hide. That was a 145 grains of pellet shot from one of, if not thee, most powerful .357 air rifles on the planet. All I'm saying is that assuming this small caliber pellet was shot from a break barrel air rifle rather than a precharged air rifle or a rimfire .17 hmr is 'jumping the gun' so to speak. 🤠

Wander?

Yes, because the rifling enables spin stabilization...making a pellet carry more energy than just throwing a pellet out of the barrel hence smoothbore

@@STKO2011 Thanks so much.

Hi Amit. The power (energy) of a bullet depends on ONLY 2 things!... The weight of the bullet and the velocity at which it travels! The mere fact that a bullet spins can't give the bullet more energy!!! a Rifled barrel don't give more power to the projectile that you shoot, it just stabilizes the projectile (which increases accuracy). a Round projectile don't have to spin to be stable in flight since it is round, therefore all side same side... However a biablo pellet is shaped such that all side is not same side... a TUMBLING (head over heels) diablo pellet will not fly straight while a tumbling round ball will still fly straight... Also a diablo pellet tumbling head over heels will have MUCH MORE wind resistance than a round ball, therefore the diablo will loose its velocity more rapidly! Downrange the round ball will eventually have higher velocity (remaining) than the diablo, therefore the energy of the round ball will eventually become more than that of the diablo. However since the diablo spins (which stabilizes it) this don't happen. It is really a pity that you are not allowed to use rifled barrels, since that gives you a larger choice of projectiles to use! I believe the best you can do is to shoot ROUND LEAD 4,5 mm (. 177) bullets since they don't need to spin in order to fly stable! You can shoot steel BB's as well. Steel BB's will be faster and have a flatter trajectory than lead BB's but lead BB's (since they are heavier) will have more energy!... Get both steel BB's and lead BB's... Lead BB's will also be less affected by wind than steel BB's... Get both (lead and steel) and decide which one to use depending on the circumstances! To shoot a small bird or a rat (for instance) at short distance while there is not much wind, use a steel BB... To shoot something larger/tougher (maybe over a longer distance), use a lead BB... Most important, know the capability of you and your gun and don't take a shot when you are not comfortable to take that shot!!!

@@frederikmare9002 Thank you very much. Over here if you are caught with a .22. pellet gun which is illegal .You get sent to jail for having an illegal fire arm. Yes they call it a fire arm here..

Amit it is really a pity! But don't let the laws prevent you from having fun! Stick to lead and steel BBs and become proficient with (yourself and) your weapon! You will be surprised how effective you can become! But know the limits of yourself and your weapon! One advantage of. 177 is that it's one of the cheapest ways to shoot!... One of the cheapest ways to practice! Enjoy!

Pellet

@Indagrow guy your wrong dude i have a 177 and its a gamo shooting at 1500 feet per second and i drop a deer with it its called a head shot and i never said a damn thing about shooting one in the leg. And yes it can be done i have done it

@Indagrow guy and there is not a million difrent calabers thete is only 4

@Indagrow guy it is 1500 dudeso you have a good day

@@jeffreyslay1607 there is way more than 4 lol .177 .22 .25 .30 .357 .45 and even a .50 and that's not even them all

@@jeffreyslay1607 and I do pellet gun hunting all the time I have a 177. That shoot a 12 grain steel pellet at 2000 fps and that will not even kill a dear.and I would never try to shoot a dear with that caliber you full of shit

Absolutely

I cant tell if your joking or its a coincidence

@@Bread45 😉😉

I was going with a load of sh.....t

Bologna. Dumbass.

@@digitaldirtnap1 hey guess what, it wouldn't have sounded funny if i put bologna, now go cry somewhere else, and ponder the internet for other misspellings to make yourself feel relevant

Bro...that rifle is pushing those 15gr at 800fps lol at best

@@nicedward7544 Yes its the power that the rifle is firing at, of course the velocity is different for all the different sizes of pellets and bullets, heavy ones are good for the powerful rifle since they wont drop or fly in random places as in with more lighter ones but yes, lighter ones do fire a lot faster but you need to think of what you want to achieve with the rifle, I own a lot of different pellets for the rifle and for my other one as well.

@@nicedward7544 Also the Rifle is potentially dangerous up to 650 yards and yes it does kick really similarly as you would feel in an AR, personally i dont feel the difference between the guns even when shooting both of them at same time at the range.

@@saramorin4792 I'm just saying that 1400fps is probably with a 7gr alloy pellet or lighter. Pellets aren't accurate at all past 1000fps. People in competitions are sending them 850 to 900 at 100 yards. 25 and under even slower. 10m guys doing 5-600

@@nicedward7544 I can just add that in most cases that Air Guns have been used against humans and they have been killed it has been about point blank so there is no need for accuracy, honestly doesnt even matter what kind of pellet you are sending to someone if its a rifle that packs a punch, no one is going to walk from that.

If you're hungry enough it sure is !

Survival scenario, rock or air rifle?

@@tonydavisbusiness Rock, because it has about the same chance of a kill but with an actual chance of reload. Pellets on the other hand are valuable in that situation so don't waste them on something which will most likely just run away.

Hunter 10 safety comes with HANDLING arms, not with hunting!!! Before you are not fimiliar with arms and not able to use arms safely, you should not even consider to go hunting!... Before you can go hunting you must train (a lot) and safety is part of training!

Frederik Mare thank you yes I know how to take care of a gun and how to use it but I’ve been using bbs for a year now I just want to go more professional with the pellets but I try to search how to be safe with pellets but google some times lies so I want to know if any chemicals is included in it I just want to be healthy and enjoy hunting without being in fear by killing or injuring me and other people but I don’t point at people even if i am playing around I know that a bb and pellet gun are like in a weapon like guns they are not toys they are like owning a gun but 🙏 thanks

I'd first attend a hunting safety class, which here you must do if you was born after 1980.anyways, cause you can't get a hunting license without it. Secondly as stated above.. practice, practice, practice.. as for the pellets, if they are lead, you need to treat it as such . Don't eat them, and I think there's a warning now on them saying you need to wash your hands after use..