Sig MPX SD - Can it dethrone the MP5 SD?

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Today we're back with Ronin Arms to look at their MPX SD platform. For years, you the viewers, have argued that the MPX is THE king of sub guns. So.....about that.
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@mistyspinazzola4626 4 ай бұрын

😂it’s me. I’m the one woman who’s a vegan who watches your show. 🤣🤣🙏🏽✨ Great episode guys. Thank you.

@Chrisblau 4 ай бұрын

the one and only Misty 😂😂

@mistyspinazzola4626 4 ай бұрын

@@Chrisblau🎉😂❤

@willl4219 8 күн бұрын

Hey im a plant eater too!! Tofu and beans and bread everyday!! Its good for the arteries

@steved5871 4 ай бұрын

I'm a 1911 guy but I would totally go with the MPX. I also like steak.

@bobitsaboy7438 4 ай бұрын

I absolutely LOVE the similarity with Clarkson era Top Gear. Seriously, KEEP IT UP!

@lukejohnson1274 4 ай бұрын

There is no such thing as Clarkson era Top Gear. If Clarkson isn't there, it isn't Top Gear!

@jonhurley7889 4 ай бұрын

I miss the old top gear

@allenneva5213 4 ай бұрын

Those guys made the show.

@johnroper3077 4 ай бұрын

My MP5's and I enjoy watching these nice little MPX videos.

@roc5291 4 ай бұрын

The MPX may be better in most things than the MP5, but the MP5 likes it when you give her a good slap. So…….

@1911syndicate 4 ай бұрын

She actually kind of requires it

@Chrisblau 4 ай бұрын

yeah gotta go with the setup that likes being slapped 😂

@justanothergunnerd8128 11 күн бұрын

But what kind of slap, bros?? Pimp or bitch slap? I'm thinking pimp....

@rakkiimaru2474 4 ай бұрын

Fantastic video! I’m glad to see you guys had a blast runnin them. Anyone interested in getting one or even a RA5SD or any of their other products from Ronin Arms, don’t hesitate to reach out with Questions. Scott is very knowledgeable and humble about his work and is happy to get you setup with what you need! Once again excellent video guys 🙌🏼

@milkyway2868 4 ай бұрын

The MPX SD is 🤤

@broncoBACON 4 ай бұрын

I love how you guys did the comparative distance shots

@anthonygomez5119 4 ай бұрын

Also weirdly enough. I own a Garmin and a beautiful automatic handmade watch… annnd I love steak annnd I own the MPX and have been planning/saving to buy the SD-package from Ronin Arms. Great video as always boys!!

@Chrisblau 4 ай бұрын

you're a man of fine taste good sir

@1911syndicate 4 ай бұрын

Cheers mate

@zacfarnsworth 4 ай бұрын

I am not seeing the mpx sd package on the website… is this something you just have to call in for or am I not looking in the right spot. Didn’t see the link in description…. I MUST HAVE… quick before I start thinking about money

@anthonygomez5119 4 ай бұрын

I Google it directly with a “MPx-SD - ronin arms” and it provides a direct link.

@virtuaguyverify 4 ай бұрын

Fluted chamber might the culprit why the mp5 is a little bit louder. Both are excellent guns, own both if you can.

@RoninArmsAZ 4 ай бұрын

Great thought there! The easier release from the fluted chamber could allow for a bit more port noice. Might have to flute an MPXSD barrel and check that theory.

@justanothergunnerd8128 3 ай бұрын

@@RoninArmsAZ Absolutely - very cool SD nerd science - love it!

@justanothergunnerd8128 3 ай бұрын

Fantastic thought - it gave me one of those "whoa... dude..." moments! I never would've considered that. Nice work!

@Lexman00 2 ай бұрын

Oh, wow, I hadn't thought of that.

@justanothergunnerd8128 4 ай бұрын

I gotta just come out and say it - you dudes are just killing it lately with quality videos. Without going on some multi-paragraph rant (which I love to do...), keep up the great work. Everything about your videos is excellent, especially since the latest Mark 23 video.

@Chrisblau 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for the kind words. Jake and crispy have really been crushing it lately

@1911syndicate 4 ай бұрын

Thanks brother

@justanothergunnerd8128 3 ай бұрын

I've watched/listened to this video like 4 times... Good shit!

@grady719 4 ай бұрын

MP5 and MPXs are both amazing. I love them both. I have an MPXSD and the one thing that everyone forgets to give MPXs props for is it's modularity. The MPX can go back to a conventional set up when you need it to by just switching the barrel out. you cannot do that with MP5s. MPXs also can handle AR style PCC triggers. The cost is also a factor as well.

@Chrisblau 4 ай бұрын

very good points man thank you for watching and commenting we appreciate you sir

@grady719 4 ай бұрын

Oh and the MPX has the ability accept adjustable gas plugs.

@joelcronce1399 4 ай бұрын

Love the “Top Gear” style intro!

@-RONNIE 4 ай бұрын

This one was different than my friends at the range it was a Sig MPX SD but not like this. I'll have to see it again or talk to him about it. Thank you all for the video 👍🏻

@tylerfrogley1227 4 ай бұрын

ILWT has also started dropping SD mpx barrels for existing mp5SD suppressor owners

@notomatoesbbq 4 ай бұрын

The MPX is the better gun in every way, but the MP5 is still cooler.

@BiblePatriot 4 ай бұрын

Truth brother.

@1911syndicate 4 ай бұрын

My heart is consumed by MP5 as well

@Ultrarmx 4 ай бұрын

PSR just came out with MP5 super safety version.

@virtuaguyverify 4 ай бұрын

@Ultrarmx ATF coming for the super saftey too

@jeffrey56690 4 ай бұрын

The mp5 is the corvette stingray 1965 427 not the newest model but so classic that it doesn’t matter

@Hollerboy931 4 ай бұрын

I’m kinda surprised this page isn’t as big with almost 500 videos and the content is more in depth than most. 🤙🏼🇺🇸

@1911syndicate 4 ай бұрын

Certain decisions we make that have kept us from mainstream popularity

@Chrisblau 4 ай бұрын

Very kind of you man we are doing our best. 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼

@jerrycortez6101 4 ай бұрын

I own two MPX’s. I am highly offended you suggested that I like tofu and prefer Apple Watches over Swiss watches. I am also a 1911 person and own a Staccato as my EDC. So fack off. Just kidding. Love your content. You girls are great together. - loyal follower 😘❤️

@OmegaBahn 4 ай бұрын

The MP5 SD echoes while the SIG MPX SD's noise is short and done. I prefer the MPX. A real ninja subgun.

@Mountain_Man 3 ай бұрын

Just decided to convert my MPX to SD. Bought an ILWT SD barrel for the MPX and now waiting on a B&T MP5 SD RBS-M suppressor. I’m looking forward to having a modular length SD suppressor on my MPX

@MurderBallad 4 ай бұрын

Ah man the only one id wanna do it w is the copperhead.

@ckirk8742 4 ай бұрын

Had an MP5 (PTR) it was really cool. Bucket list type gun because of the pop culture around it. It was quite surprised, it was very comfortable to shoot with the RDB system. After owning it and shooting it suppressed for years, I sold it and bought an MPX. I originally thought the MP5 would be quieter, but having a home with a wife and kids that practice with ARs the MPX was easy to cross over for them. I can say without a doubt I prefer the MPX more than the MP5 or any of the other sub guns I’ve owned.

@exjug 4 ай бұрын

Subgun love. ❤️ love my B&T APC9-SD compact.

@justanothergunnerd8128 3 ай бұрын

oooh I need one of those too along with an MP5 and MPX... I need a big 9mm SD family to live in the safe...

@randyreviewsit 4 ай бұрын

they are so close on the sound this is wild. I think the mpx has the aspect of last round bolt hold open and the familiar controls. The mp5 however has better charging handle placement, and I think the roller delay beats the piston.

@trevorsharp-lw3ss 4 ай бұрын

They should make stuff for the B&T subguns! Those would be 🔥

@PrayingPanda 4 ай бұрын

Do APC9-SD-G Compact next! Also ballistic gel (or meat target Paul Harrel style) testing with hollow points.

@markrippt4677 4 ай бұрын

MPX is the winner for better ergos and manual of arms. Plus it is so much cheaper to just swap top ends. A great video! Liked and shared!

@allenneva5213 4 ай бұрын

As a reloader, I do know there are 7000 grains to 1lb. I would choose the MPX, I own the MPX-K FDE and that I want an 8" barrel/handguard for more hand space on the rail. I also own many 1911s. The MP5 is still a classic and sexy gun.

@sirrisdesign4 4 ай бұрын

Must be why agencies are dropping the MPX left and right. Because it’s so good.

@Chrisblau 4 ай бұрын

Scotty has a pretty deep catalogue of content running the hell out of these guns on his instagram. Scotty travels the southwest and uses the same demo guns at each event he goes to. These guns have 10’s of thousands of rounds on them.

@ENCAGED79 4 ай бұрын

I’m just here to break the mold. Gimme a rare steak and the MPX… and some fried kale to snack on

@dm5020 4 ай бұрын

Mp5 is for show, MPX is for work

@Guns-n-Whiskey 4 ай бұрын

That makes no sense whatsoever. The MP5 is one of the most battle proven sub guns in the world.

@charlesl5226 4 ай бұрын

Have always loved the mpx and wanted one. This just made it so much more of an issue for me. Mpx over the mp5.

@tcs8792 Ай бұрын

My MPX k with YHM R9 is by far my favorite rifle to shoot. super quiet with 115 and even quieter with 147subs

@Hollerboy931 4 ай бұрын

Definitely a beast I can’t wait on the DD 9mm PCC. I think I want the 8.5inch one but I don’t wanna have to deal with no SBR bullshit to use it like a real gun.😂

@1911syndicate 4 ай бұрын

Yea hopefully that thing works well

@Chrisblau 4 ай бұрын

I’m looking forward to that as well

@justanothergunnerd8128 4 ай бұрын

I need both!

@minislurpee613 4 ай бұрын

i want one now

@coreymoyers Ай бұрын

Growing up, I always thought that the MP5SD was my dream gun. Now that I own an MPX with a Rad9, I enjoy the flexibility of running 147gr for subsonic and lighter weights for more energy.

@ericmoss8344 4 ай бұрын

Great review and they're both great setups! I'd prefer the MPX just due to the manual of arms familiarity. I'd love to see something done on the BT APC if that was possible as others here have mentioned. I'm also a Rolex wearing Steak eating guy... and I carry a Staccato C2 as my EDC. Different strokes as they say.

@velos3989 4 ай бұрын

Very cool engineering, especially considering the MPX is gas operated vs delayed blow back, requiring the gas system to be reworked in addition to the recoil system. I think PCCs are generally kinda lame, but running cheep 9mm subsonically suppressed is super valuable

@caddilacjim 4 ай бұрын

The 1911 guy owning a mp5 yeah that's me.The MPX is cool as hell though.

@slek27 Ай бұрын

Oh dope that’s my range!

@anthonygomez5119 4 ай бұрын

AMMMAZING!

@TuckerDale89 4 ай бұрын

This comment is for Jake, being a lefty like me you should try the Streamlight TLR RM1 or RM2 on your MP5K it’s a great light that comes with a pressure switch but just use my thumb and it looks cool too.

@jessebarney5964 4 ай бұрын

Mp5 tribe for life.

@IvIidnight 4 ай бұрын

Never enough beards! Unless you're in a situation where 2 is too many...

@mcondon23 4 ай бұрын

Love me some MPX

@TheGunfighter45acp 4 ай бұрын

They were both pretty quiet.

@Chrisblau 4 ай бұрын

Yeah man really splitting hairs on the argument both are just so cool and were so fun to shoot.

@wildcat8598 4 ай бұрын

(Me 10 minutes into the video) “Alright bro enough of the science shit, how much is it and take my money!!”😂

@Chrisblau 4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@TexOh2000 3 ай бұрын

I have both, I love both

@Bonzai1000 4 ай бұрын

As a German i would stick to the MP5 and Schnitzel

@precision_patty 3 ай бұрын

One thing i wish you guys touched on was overall weight the SD system added, and what it sounded like with 147s, or if 147s are something that the user avoids when using an SD and recoil

@derekjohnson8086 3 ай бұрын

Why did I just find this video? I purchased my SP5 about two years ago just completed my SP5K PDW build now I’m to be in the doghouse after this one 🤣🤣🤣

@MervinG1995 4 ай бұрын

Love the Tundras 👌

@Oliver_Things 4 ай бұрын

The only things my AP5 doesn't have that I wish it did would be an ambi safety, and obviously a last round bolt hold open.

@benjiealfie 4 ай бұрын

The MPX is definitely more quieter from the viewers perspective.

@johngalt3568 4 ай бұрын

Chris makes the MPX look tiny.

@Chrisblau 4 ай бұрын

😂😂 hahaha its a tiny gun and im average size i promise

@aidenfinney3106 21 күн бұрын

The thing that they didn’t mention with the mpx was you can go from sd to regular by popping the pins and replacing the upper

@aaronfarnsworth7653 4 ай бұрын

We need Charlie Sheen (Lt Hawkins) to ram the muzzles of each against ballistic gelatin blocks and fire singles and bursts to compare the up close and personal (ucap) sound levels. Does port noise increase or does the additional bio-baffle make it even more quiet? After that, we have to work on silent self loading actions. Perhaps requiring long travel so there are no sudden carrier stops. Carrier to receiver fit like a custom 1911 or CZ to eliminate any action rattle. Maybe even buffers for the chamber end of travel to eliminate the clang of metal on metal and bolt bounce. Finally silent springs to eliminate the "sproing" we will eventually hear once we eliminate all the other sounds.

@damienthomas6655 4 ай бұрын

❤❤❤DUE TO MANUAL OF ARMS AND IF I HAD TO GO TO WAR I WOULD TAKE THE MPX BECAUSE OF RELIABILITY AND MANUAL OF ARMS AS I WOULD NOT HAVE THAT WITH THE MP5SD .GREAT VID GUYS!

@BiblePatriot 4 ай бұрын

I love my MPX and this gave me a chubby

@1911syndicate 4 ай бұрын

Chub on

@corey-zz8wr 4 ай бұрын

MPX is the best sub gun period. MP5 has a nostalgic thing, but the mpx crushes it in every way. I wouldnt trade my mpx for 2 mp5s

@Austin-xu1ws 4 ай бұрын

I did, and I am happy with my decision. MPX is just another gun, but MP5 is dah gun.

@Papote44 4 ай бұрын

Let's not get crazy.

@corey-zz8wr 4 ай бұрын

@@Austin-xu1ws I disagree. I've got a zenith mp5k and it's an outdated but fun weapon system. Like a Glock guy saying they're still relevant in 2024. Nah. Outdated. Everything evolves except things with foolish pride

@samarmitage9222 4 ай бұрын

Is Ronin Arms SD suppressor able to be taken down and cleaned in respect to the individual baffles? Do they also fit on any other SD platforms (not just the Ronin Arms barrels)?

@molonl4be 4 ай бұрын

Totally a 1911/2011 guy here who eats steak on a regular basis.......and I own 5 MPX pistols and SBRs. MPX is better than MP5 all day long.

@PCC4Me 4 ай бұрын

How do you assess this suppressor's performance vs. the ModX-9 which was literally designed for the MPX (and is probably way lighter)?

@Shimra8888 4 ай бұрын

That tiny 9mm magazine looks vestigial on the MPX.

@IvIidnight 4 ай бұрын

MPX (9mm) or Rattler LT (300BLK)? Backpack/Bedside/Home Protection

@jackburton7959 4 ай бұрын

While I understand the point of the ported barrel is to drop the typically supersonic 115/124g rounds down to subsonic, I am curious if you ran 147g to see how much quieter they would be. How slow is a typical 147g coming out of an SD barrel? 700ish fps?

@TexMexTactical 4 ай бұрын

It’s orejas means ears

@b.a_charlie2228 4 ай бұрын

Okay. Anyone else from the video think that the MP5-SD sound louder?? I think it has a deeper tone than the MPX. The MPX is higher pitch and that to me stands out more

@chrisjosekuehl 4 ай бұрын

I wish we could have heard some 147’s, those must be super quiet. I also wanted to hear what the ballistics are on 9mm from the mpx, we know the mp5 is essentially a 380 after all the porting.

@gunnerswat 4 ай бұрын

The MP5SD is still my favorite.

@chrispatterson7444 3 ай бұрын

The Glock AR9 pattern is the ultimate king hahaha

@joshtaf8374 4 ай бұрын

How good is the accuracy out of those barrels?

@Hinkishere 3 ай бұрын

Why not both? My Ronin Arms converted MPX-SD full size is a thing of beauty, but a full size MP5-SD is still one of my dream guns.

@1911syndicate 3 ай бұрын

I’m on team both

@bobt2390 4 ай бұрын

Dropped a like because science, algorithm, and stuff.

@Chrisblau 4 ай бұрын

And we appreciate that good sir

@michealingwerson7607 4 ай бұрын

Would have really liked to see the mpx sd compared to a mpx with an Omega 9k or something. I assume the SD is quiter.

@RoninArmsAZ 4 ай бұрын

Videos on my IG page of these comparisons. SD is much quieter, even with the Omega9 running subs.

@michealingwerson7607 4 ай бұрын

@RoninArmsAZ thank you! Soon as I find a good deal on an MPX, I'm going to have to send it in!

@BiblePatriot 4 ай бұрын

The MPX with my headphones on noise canceling and full blast showed me the MPX is quieter but it was close.

@1911syndicate 4 ай бұрын

Very

@Chrisblau 4 ай бұрын

Yeah really hard to decide which is more quite. both were awesome to shoot either way

@RoninArmsAZ 4 ай бұрын

I like that idea!

@andrews6639 4 ай бұрын

As far as MP5 or MPX. I think it has to do with your age. Did you grow up watching Die Hard or not?? That is a big factor.

@Chrisblau 4 ай бұрын

Fair argument 😂😂😂 both can be equally cool for different reasons also

@CMH_1975 29 күн бұрын

I grew up watching all of those 80's action movies and I'll take my MPX all day.

@jerrycortez6101 4 ай бұрын

Ask this question when “nostalgia” is a factor; If both were released today, which one is better.

@renetorres2803 4 ай бұрын

Both were quiet.. but the mp5 was a tad bit quieter. Need a decibel reader next time and you’ll know for sure

@ejasquith384 4 ай бұрын

That MPX SD is sweet. Just curious, how was the accuracy on it?

@RoninArmsAZ 4 ай бұрын

Accuracy we have been seeing with testing is 2” or under group at 25 yards with 115gn ammo. Pretty much standard for most sub guns on the market suppressed and not.

@lordhuck2689 4 ай бұрын

Will these suppressors still work if Ronin doesn't drill ports in the barrel? Thereby maintaining the ability to run supers while still getting the compact over the barrel suppressor package?

@RoninArmsAZ 4 ай бұрын

You could. But it would defeat the purpose of the SD over the barrel design. Rounds would remain supersonic. No advantage that I can see for not porting the barrel in an over barrel 9mm SD. But good question

@idk9478 4 ай бұрын

then run a normal configuration with a suppressor than this

@lordhuck2689 4 ай бұрын

@@RoninArmsAZ wouldn’t you get a much more voluminous suppressor with a shorter overall system length vs just running a standard suppressor? All while retaining the ability to use supers and subsonics?

@IntegrityFirearms21 4 ай бұрын

Which can is being used on the Mp5’s?

@R3kkr 4 ай бұрын

Bit more chamber pop from the MP5 maybe?

@J_steezy821 4 ай бұрын

You guys were in my town and i missed it?! Wtf 😢

@williamhicks2763 Ай бұрын

Any difference in the velocity?

@K-bob_45 4 ай бұрын

Any reloader should know 7000 gr per lb. Good way to feel silly about arguing heavier bullets though. Even 400/7000’s of a lb doesn’t sound like much, butvitvis

@davidb9323 4 ай бұрын

I thought the integrally suppressed B&T was supposed to do that ?

@IntegrityFirearms21 4 ай бұрын

You have to breakdown each can and baffle system for it to be true fair comparison.

@Chrisblau 4 ай бұрын

All cans and guns are from Ronin Arms. He does the conversions on both and makes the cans as well.

@BrothaGoodReps 3 ай бұрын

Orejas. Orejas is the word you were looking for. Esta bien. Lol.

@1911syndicate 3 ай бұрын

There it is

@Tragic387 4 ай бұрын

For silencer reviews, you guys should get your hands on some CAT products! Hear they're the new kid on the block.. without being the new kid

@bakixavirists4561 4 ай бұрын

I think the apc-9 already did that!

@superboy305 4 ай бұрын

B&T for life

@Steve_MP5 4 ай бұрын

Wait a minute. I’m an Apple Watch guy and a die hard MP5 guy 😂

@ludk1 2 ай бұрын

MPX all the way for sound suppression but both are awesome

@1911syndicate 2 ай бұрын

It’s very very close. Not significant enough to hardly detect

@philp411 4 ай бұрын

I’d have liked some velocity readings. Is it true you can’t run 147 in a SD? BTW, I’m a 1911 guy (and revolver and 2011) and though I went to HK Armorer and had an MP issued for several years, I prefer the AR ergos over the MP. And I’m a steak guy. And no way to an Apple Watch guy.

@corygoff694 4 ай бұрын

I run a 16" MPX in Competition. 147 gr runs about 1000-1100 fps. But was so soft shooting that it made my MPX short stroke/FFE. 124 gr averaged 1250 fps and ran great. But my choice for competition is 115 gr at about 1250-1300 fps. Due to minimal sight disturbance and absolute reliability. Now again my numbers are for a 16" barrel. Sorry I don't have an SD upper to test yet.

@darkhawk368 4 ай бұрын

This kind of content is so refreshing. I live in a heavily Christian nationalist with a large well known kkk presence. So hearing critical thinking with humor is a nice cha ge of pace

@jonathonghowarth 4 ай бұрын

Does he make these for the MPX in other caliber chambers as well?

@1911syndicate 4 ай бұрын

I don’t think so

@JF-wz2ls 4 ай бұрын

Why not just put a sound meter on it? That would take out the subjective nature of your test. Besides that, this is really a testimonial for the MP5 given the 60 year longevity of it. Truly a design well ahead of its time. I am really liking the Sig though too, although if I'm going modern, then I'm definitely going 300 BLK. So the answer is own the MP5 and the Rattler! :)