2 Crazy HUGE Calls from Bart (Lesson in Polarization)

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Crush Live Poker owner and lead instructor Bart Hanson discusses the concept of “polarization” by looking at two near impossible calls that he made in a recent @liveatthebike $5/$5/$10 game.
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@natemurray02
@natemurray02 5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that you used a hand where you didn't win
@davidringler4700
@davidringler4700 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the commentators say you’re prob gonna fold, and they don’t know how you’re working the hand out in your head to make the call.
@kf7914
@kf7914 5 жыл бұрын
I think the difference between the two hands is that Barry is less polarized than the guy in the first hand, and Barry's line makes a lot more sense for the hands he is representing. In the first hand the guy is repping exactly the nut flush and there are few combos of that which make sense given his turn check. Barry is representing a lot more combos of non-nut flushes and his call, call lead line makes a lot of sense for those hands.
@dochmbi
@dochmbi 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah you are right about polarization. The important thing is blockers, do you block the bluff? Then fold. Do you block the valuehand that they are representing? Then call.
@JeffBoski
@JeffBoski 5 жыл бұрын
Phil Ivey's screen name was "Polarizing" Way ahead of his time
@leozanolini298
@leozanolini298 5 жыл бұрын
On the first hand you picked up a double gutter to a 6&10 not just a gut shot.
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@Requiescat_in_pace
@Requiescat_in_pace 5 жыл бұрын
@@CrushlivePoker Oh Yeah!
@pot_kivach160
@pot_kivach160 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bart for sharing this. Certainly a lot of to learn from this presentation. Great lesson on polarisitaion.
@craiggregory7136
@craiggregory7136 3 жыл бұрын
Goodness me I love your honest content. I always learn so much from you. Thank you
@percyblok6014
@percyblok6014 2 жыл бұрын
Good vid, explanation really helps.
@Godvernment
@Godvernment 5 жыл бұрын
Do you take into consideration that you’ve just showed the table you are on your A game and can’t be bluffed? This may be a situation were you aren’t factoring your table image.
@FireHydrant7
@FireHydrant7 5 жыл бұрын
Blocking some of his bluffs makes that a pretty easy fold, you need to be right more often than you claim due to this fact. The concept you're teaching is definitely really good though.
@andthenwhat9603
@andthenwhat9603 5 жыл бұрын
Did you pick up a live read on first hand?
@gregjohnson6793
@gregjohnson6793 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video Bart. I'm still trying to put all of this together in my head. So, my question is - how does MDF factor in to the second call? I get your analysis that you are good at least 1 out of 3.5 times, especially given your history with that player. But, if you say "any pair is really the same as AA (or AAA in this case) because he's never bluffing an 8 here" - are you not in fact saying that you are calling with every hand that is a pair that makes it to the river? Wouldn't that lead to you way over calling - thus making you exploitable? Or are there just so hands you have that are pairs or better that your MDF is about right? So you'd fold all of your missed draws and call with all of your pairs or better?
@toddzickel2548
@toddzickel2548 5 жыл бұрын
That's why you're a pro. I wouldn't have bet the river vs Turbo. Great call!
@mikewoodhouse8337
@mikewoodhouse8337 5 жыл бұрын
Very good content. Cheers
@Matthew-gg8ep
@Matthew-gg8ep 5 жыл бұрын
Great analysis on thought process and examples of polarization. Did any part of your thought process on the 6/9 call have to do with it being Barry Woods as the villain and you have history with him and know he is a spewy
@hansari8697
@hansari8697 5 жыл бұрын
I think using a large sizing on J75ss is actually correct. Pretty sure on 69s hand when u use a small sizing on the flop your supposed to bomb when you continue on a double flush draw turn, like overbet or pot at a min. Obviously your arent supposed to bet that turn often and I am quite certain 2nd pair wouldnt be in an overbet range tho. That is the case in a heads up pot not sure about multi way.
@nellyb6151
@nellyb6151 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what you thought of his physical movements, at one point he seemed to smile, he also looked at his hand again, he sat back in his seat after his bet and he breathed harder, scratched his cheek and did a weird yawn. His breathing and yawn seems bluffy but the rest seems very comfortable with his hand. Thanks for showing a losing hand.
@Love1isall
@Love1isall 3 жыл бұрын
I know that's not very analytical and I don't know much about how Barry plays, however to me he looks like the sort of player who has exactly the type of hand he holds. When polarizing bets like this happen from that type of player, I always resort to body language. He seems very comfortable. I noticed that you didn't pay much attention to his tells. I think these are the spots when tells come into play.
@mackcab200
@mackcab200 5 жыл бұрын
67S, QTs, AK AQ suited and unsuited with a spade, other combos of suited Ace, AA, KK with a spade Villain could be 3 betting with and taking this line, I believe there are other better hands we could use to bluff catch this with. I think i would even fold 3 of a kind here. But what do i know? Im still learning the game, and your result shows top 2 pair is a good call so..
@mackcab200
@mackcab200 5 жыл бұрын
He could even be bluffing with something with a random spade and you still lose
@kevincloonan9787
@kevincloonan9787 5 жыл бұрын
My question is these polarized spots only come up with good or more competent players that understand what hands they should be value betting or if you have a decent hand to check back to win at showdown. Ive seen so many times where bad players bet hands "like an in between hand" where they don't even understand if they are betting for value or turning their hand into a bluff. For example on hand 1 they would bet a hand like AJo of KJo on the river not understanding if its the correct play
@bakaraymoo7389
@bakaraymoo7389 3 жыл бұрын
Polarization happens at lower stakes more, not higher. Skilled players know when they're supposed to be polarized and thus can mix it up against other good players.
@Gamingkeyboard123
@Gamingkeyboard123 5 жыл бұрын
Question on the second hand. Why can’t Barry bet aces up on the river? Considering how wide he is he will have a range advantage on that river. Having more aces up for sure(probably more flushes) considering when the aces of clubs comes down that will reduce your flush combos a lot. Considering most of the time you will have one pair on this runout?
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 5 жыл бұрын
Eric dohn it’s unlikely for this sizing .. I mean he can I’m saying he won’t .. Bart
@nouser129
@nouser129 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Bart, love your Wilfork jersey.
@sticktoFL
@sticktoFL 5 жыл бұрын
I think that’s a terrible call on the river your specific hand blocks all the “possible bluffs” he can have 97 and 910 you’re just over thinking this spot
@romanp8694
@romanp8694 5 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. This is a $$$ losing call in long term. Villain could easily have Aces or Kings with a spade or As x hand and take this line. Having said all that, if the villain is too aggro and you know this (and since he 3-bet K 7 suited he maybe that type of villain) you can maybe make this call
@sticktoFL
@sticktoFL 5 жыл бұрын
Roman Perkis for sure and this 3 bet is just completely out of line if he’s 3 betting this he’s 3 betting everything suited basically I understand what he’s saying about maybe getting position and getting the button to fold and the looser player he’s played with for a long time to call but just too spewey
@mikecantin7760
@mikecantin7760 5 жыл бұрын
Bart did mention this in the video. I think you should watch the whole video before calling it terrible.
@sticktoFL
@sticktoFL 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Cantin I did watch the whole video? Does it not make it true that it’s a terrible call? Lol so I can’t say it? BETAA
@bakaraymoo7389
@bakaraymoo7389 3 жыл бұрын
@@sticktoFL repeating what the guy who's video you're watching and framing it as your own criticism. That's definition of beta. Like dictionary definition
@GRice999
@GRice999 5 жыл бұрын
You're totally ignoring your folding range and justifying your call just based on the fact that you have a bluff catcher. Of course he's polarized. And you're paying off all his value bets with all pairs of sixes or better? Go through all hands you could possibly have in that spot, from over pairs, top pairs, 7s, second pairs, sets, small flushes, straights, two pair, and busted straight and busted back door spade draws. GTO wise, you have to call about 60% of the time to make his bluffs unprofitable. And there's no way that 96s is in your top 60% of hands in that spot. What worse hands do you have in your range? Busted straight and spade draws? You need to be folding 40%. With that size bet, he should be bluffing about 29% of the time. Getting 2.5:1 you'll break even with your bluff catchers, and show a profit if he bluffs too much. But what are his bluffs there? Busted straight and spade draws, I suppose. Are there enough bluffs there considering card removals for him to be bluffing more than 29% of the time? If not, and if he's bluffing too much, he may be turning hands you can't beat into bluffs, such as 87s, and you are in turn, turning those bluffs into value bets for him (how does 3-betting with 96s in the big blind look now?). Also, just because you played hands with him where he made big bluffs, doesn't mean he was bluffing too much or making bad bluffs. You didn't provide enough information to judge that. Also, he could realize he got caught bluffing by you in the past and has decided to bluff you less. If so, all those "bluff catchers" you have now are just paying off his value bets. Don't 3-bet so wide out of position. ☺️
@Gizziiusa
@Gizziiusa 5 жыл бұрын
(how does 3-betting with 96s in the big blind look now?) Don't 3-bet so wide out of position BAM.
@greatwhite3676
@greatwhite3676 4 жыл бұрын
You are ignoring the other I player I ran the solver numerous times and it said when there is a fifth club to use a large sizing. Unless of course a card higher than the ace comes then we must re evaluate
@GRice999
@GRice999 4 жыл бұрын
@@greatwhite3676 The sizing doesn't change the fact that villain needs to be balanced (what do you mean "card higher than the ace?"), and hero needs to balance based on villain's bet size. The larger the size, the worse odds hero is getting on a call, and the fewer hands he should call with. In this hand hero brings up his history with villain which we can't evaluate because he didn't provide enough information. If villain is exploitable because he bluffs too often, then calling with a higher frequency than GTO suggests is warranted. But you need to see a lot of hands from an opponent to know something like that for sure. In a small sample size you can easily be misled because an opponent just happened to be called the times he was bluffing, or visa versa.
@greatwhite3676
@greatwhite3676 4 жыл бұрын
@@GRice999 dude i'm joking!!!!
@conephompany
@conephompany 3 жыл бұрын
@@GRice999 where did / do you learn your jam?
@clapforboobies5892
@clapforboobies5892 5 жыл бұрын
Turbos large bet on the flop into two spades seems like he doesnt want draws to continue. Would you agree that a large bet like that gets rid of spade draws?
@ilya4759
@ilya4759 3 жыл бұрын
Makes me think of Doug polk and his linear approach to bluff catching.
@nicholasdemetriades9154
@nicholasdemetriades9154 2 жыл бұрын
Curious whether you noted Barry's seemingly very relaxed posture and his smiling a few times or were you unable to see this from your seat?
@alikia717
@alikia717 5 жыл бұрын
Does the Ace of clubs have any relevance here? What if it was another club and not the Ace? I feel more likely to call when it's the Ace of clubs in this spot.
@mataspacevicius8254
@mataspacevicius8254 4 жыл бұрын
First hand Jd9d Double gutter on the Js5s7c 8s not just a gutter to the 6
@paidrussiantroll1305
@paidrussiantroll1305 5 жыл бұрын
Decent analysis. As for Salsberg, that post flop call was silly.
@darkgrapeful
@darkgrapeful 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a Wilfork Jersey? If so, Had no idea, bravo, knew there was more to you 😉
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 3 жыл бұрын
Of course. I grew up in the Boston area and have seen every game since '86.
@darkgrapeful
@darkgrapeful 3 жыл бұрын
@@CrushlivePoker Man, love you even more, or maybe why I loved you in the first place! Thanks for all the great content, and making my poker stronger! You the man, Go Pats!!! Boston strong. Thanks again.
@daydaydful
@daydaydful 3 жыл бұрын
I thought for sure u were gonna show a winning hand u played because of the Patriots Jersey lol
@ekw555
@ekw555 5 жыл бұрын
@7:25 you talk about no real possibilities of straight flushes. I am confused. on the 4 flush board, the board has 5s 8s 9s Js. while there are no 1 card straight flushes, there are three different 2 card straight flushes. (6s7s, 7sTs, TsQs)
@sojlad
@sojlad 4 жыл бұрын
because those hands usually bet turn to protect against Ax with the ace of spades that Bart could have, no point in slow playing a small flush hoping to hit your straight flush outs. I don't see Ts7s and QsTs 3 betting, (even if he is 3betting Kd7d), people usually just call with these kind of suited gapped hands to play post flop anyway. I think 7s6s is the only reasonable 3betting hand of the 3 you mentioned, and even those will most likely bet turn to protect against Ax with the ace of spades and Kx with the king of spades. Just my 2 cents
@gutzzgutzz6795
@gutzzgutzz6795 3 жыл бұрын
wish i could play like Bart
@nikitakucherov5028
@nikitakucherov5028 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with the 2nd hand is that it is quite possible to accidentally be beaten by a bluff. That is possibly enough to fold, but it’s closer than most people think.....
@connorjodon3509
@connorjodon3509 5 жыл бұрын
My question is what does Barry and You do when an offsuit K comes on the river?
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 5 жыл бұрын
Connor JoDon he checks for sure I may bluff but probably take the showdown.. Bart
@jasonfletcher9115
@jasonfletcher9115 5 жыл бұрын
nice jersey
@clapforboobies5892
@clapforboobies5892 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Whatever happened to Harry and that Josh goatee guy? Are they both banned for shady stuff?
@volonts4viola
@volonts4viola 2 жыл бұрын
Tons of his bluffs have an ace.. suited spades.. if everyone is calling 3 bets pre with 57 than its the juiciest game in poker history.
@volonts4viola
@volonts4viola 2 жыл бұрын
(Bluffs)
@Samscoinsandheavymetal
@Samscoinsandheavymetal 5 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Bart. Double gutter on turn on J9 hand but concept acknowledged Watched it live - really superb play and great calls that whole night Fabulous analysis- you’re explanation is top shelf, just like the patriots 👍🏻
@EdVolpe
@EdVolpe 5 жыл бұрын
Duuuude, I can't believe I am just realizing this now... But isn't Barry the dude that used to be on Storage Wars?!?
@stevek6537
@stevek6537 5 жыл бұрын
Strongly disagree. Its opponent based. U dont block any set other than 6s and since he knows u well enough, he knows u will call light and if he reads you for being light... any set, A8 A6 can all bet for value there
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 5 жыл бұрын
It doesnt matter what can value bet it matters what is value bet at this level. Bart
@JedmcCj-uq5dw
@JedmcCj-uq5dw 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know Barry but it seems pretty obvious by his line that he has a flush. If he's bluffing I think he's still going to have better hand.
@RobertWeir
@RobertWeir 5 жыл бұрын
is that thing on his head a bluff?
@newbyZTV
@newbyZTV 5 жыл бұрын
17:30 - looking at their cards after the bet is usually a dead giveaway that they are very strong. Just "making sure" that they got the goods and want to confirm themselves.
@hogi99
@hogi99 3 жыл бұрын
Easily manipulated tell, I look at my cards both good and bad to throw people off.😁
@geoffbeyer1873
@geoffbeyer1873 5 жыл бұрын
I watched the 2nd hand on stream, and seeing the whole cards it's easy to be a keyboard warrior, but I admit the call surprised me, only because the line Barry took would reek of a flush in the games I play. Respect for showing both sides of the coin on your own hands though, most peoples egos are a little to fragile to show their mistakes.
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 5 жыл бұрын
geoff beyer I’m all about pointing out my own mistakes.. it’s how we get better. Bart
@geoffbeyer1873
@geoffbeyer1873 5 жыл бұрын
@@CrushlivePoker After seeing more of Barry play, I see why you made the call. He bluffs a lot of rivers in certain situations. It seems he made good use of his image there.
@DanielSong39
@DanielSong39 5 жыл бұрын
Bart explains why the second call was different from the first... he loses to several bluffs and he also blocks several bluffs. Yeah, maybe Barry is bluffing 25% of the time but if you lose to ~1/3 of his bluffing range you no longer have the pot odds to call.
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 5 жыл бұрын
DanielSong39 I definitely don’t think I was losing to 1/3 of his bluffing range. Bart
@MikeyD8716
@MikeyD8716 5 жыл бұрын
Just call everything.
@therecplayer1368
@therecplayer1368 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Logic makes sense. I feel like when I watch hand analysis and I am right on and then I get to the table and feel lost. You have any tips on how to keep focused and locked into your thoughts and analysis in real time?
@Face_The_Void
@Face_The_Void 5 жыл бұрын
Is fear a predominant factor when you’re at the table? Because that can always make thinking logically fuzzy. I have devised my own personalised poker check list which I go through before I play based on my own tendencies to feel fear before playing and it’s working out. May be worth thinking about the good sessions you’ve had and what you think made you play well and ensuring you are in a similar headspace before you start playing. Best of luck to you.
@daydaydful
@daydaydful 3 жыл бұрын
Go down in stakes is my recommendation when ur at the table u have to be 100% comfortable and willing without fear to go broke without the fear of it influencing ur thought process.. so if that means playing with a quarter the stack size at a quarter of the stakes that's what u have to do.
@ip_freely
@ip_freely 5 жыл бұрын
I like how the announcer, Feldman??, is so critical on both plays when he's such a f^&$#'n fish.
@mik3551
@mik3551 5 жыл бұрын
Hand 2 is just... You can lose to more than 0 bluffs (85s,84s,87s are unlikey but possible for sure sometimes, trying to fold out what were overpairs OTT), you block a fair amount of bluffs, you don't block any value and after 3betting+cbetting 2 streets here you have an insane amount of one pair hands that block value and unblock bluffs, not to mention all your A high light cbets that have the potential to block thin value bets on this river make much better calls. Yes villain is likely polarized, but making this call is calling near 100% of your range, the only hands that fold are random bdfds and bricked straights? I don't know the dynamic and SB sure seems fishy but OoP could gain so much EV by valuebetting thin here with rivered two pair if he's sharp it's not even funny.
@Gos1234567
@Gos1234567 4 жыл бұрын
Bart is basing all this on that he has either the nuts or nothing,i dont know about that when as you say some of the bluffs may beat you,that should tip you into a fold.also who knows he may have a str8 or set(doubtful) and is afraid Bart will check back a lesser hand.
@GRice999
@GRice999 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gos1234567 Bart needs to call about 60% (or fold about 40%) of the time here to make it unprofitable for villain to bluff any two cards (based on the size of the bet). If Bart thinks villain bluffs too much he can call all of the time with a "bluff catcher" and show a profit. However, if villain's bluffs contain hands that Bart can't beat with some of his "bluff catchers", some of those bluff catchers are not bluff catchers at all, they're just losers. Also, by default, if Bart blocks some of villain's otherwise legitimate bluff hands, in order to have enough hands in his bluffing range, villain will have to bluff with a stronger range of hands (97d and 65d are two busted straight draws villain could otherwise bluff with but can't because of card removal). What are villain's bluffing hands? Busted straight and spade draws are candidates. One pair hands normally wouldn't need to bluff, but considering the number of flush draws that got there, he needs enough bluffs to balance his betting range (villain needs to bluff 29% of the time to make Bart indifferent to calling with his bluff catchers). And if he bluffs too much (more than 29%), what exactly are his bluffing hands? He may need to add in hands like middling pairs that beat a pair of sixes to have that many bluffs. On the other side, Bart was the aggressor in this hand and figures to be polarized. So he's betting all of his over pairs or better. He's also betting his draw's and possibly some one pair hands eights or lower. He will give up betting on some of the bluff hands on the turn, as his bluffing frequency decreases on each street. So the $64,000 question is whether 96d is in his top 60% of hands he needs to call with on the river (and if borderline, should he fold because of card removal?)? And the next question is that if 96d is indeed in his calling range, is it because he was bluffing with too many hands worse than that on the turn and was forced to call with it on the river to avoid being exploited by a river bet?
@Gos1234567
@Gos1234567 4 жыл бұрын
@@GRice999 Agree with everything but the Ac hit river which now reduces the chances Bart was betting a flush draw and got there,so Barry could bet here if holding two pair thinking Bart if more single pair heavy and will just check back.I just dont agree that Barry has to be polarized here. The two hands are totally different scenarios,Besides hand combos is the play.The pfr bet/check on flush turn/now bets on 4 flush river for a large amount and Bart has a decent hand(doesnt matter that much on a 4 flush though) it just looks a bit fishy whereas Barry is playing exactly as you would with a flush draw and Barts hand is so bad it can even lose to bluffs.
@Centurianm78
@Centurianm78 5 жыл бұрын
When Barry bluffs, he tends to bet half pot or less. When he bets 2/3 pot or more, he has it, as far as what i've seen of him.
@nicholasrolla2937
@nicholasrolla2937 5 жыл бұрын
If you had the lead in this hand and you led out this river against Barry I would call that polarized. Barry just looks exactly like what he has-he got there with the ace of clubs and betting for value. It doesn’t look polarized imo and is a snap fold most of the time. If he had said all in or overbet the pot then maybe I guess. I guess we can call it a thin polarization.
@SN-qu2gz
@SN-qu2gz 3 жыл бұрын
Bart is my totem animal.
@UltimateTexasHoldemGuru
@UltimateTexasHoldemGuru 5 жыл бұрын
Polarization happens on 75% of hands.
@daydaydful
@daydaydful 3 жыл бұрын
So in the second hand since u have a 6 and can be beat by maybe half or more of the bluffs he could have had out there and since u know he is a hight percentage bluffer with those things in mind and with u only having a 6 how would u feel about raising there on the river so that if he does have the nut flush which he does yea he would beat u but if he is bluffing with a better hand then u like an over pair or 8x Ax if you raise u could get those better bluffs then the 6 to fold and on the occasions he does have the nut flush ur beat but ur beat only by the nut flush and occasional hero call idk that my thought process let me know what yal think I know some of u in the comments are pros so holler at me.. I'm a winning player BARELY!! like o.o5% roi at this moment so yea not great but not losing... yet at least 🤞
@jacobsavage9342
@jacobsavage9342 3 жыл бұрын
Is Bart a patriots fan?
@DonkeyKongBMAC
@DonkeyKongBMAC 5 жыл бұрын
Make Hansen Great Again
@MikeyD8716
@MikeyD8716 5 жыл бұрын
Dude he could have had the 3♠️ and just hoped you didn’t have a spade
@jacobleblanc27
@jacobleblanc27 4 жыл бұрын
Then why wouldnt he just check? Or bet smaller to get called by worse?
@Gos1234567
@Gos1234567 4 жыл бұрын
Dont 3bet bluff from OOP against guys that dont fold,that ATo call on the flop is ridiculous
@alakazaam4292
@alakazaam4292 3 жыл бұрын
How did you even get an invite from someone like Barry lol like why would he want you, a winning pro, at your table?
@jamesvaughan3394
@jamesvaughan3394 5 жыл бұрын
What are you wearing.
@brmillgr
@brmillgr 5 жыл бұрын
Wilfork?
@JeffHoopAdventure
@JeffHoopAdventure 5 жыл бұрын
Salzburg with the no pair no draw Hollywood tank fold....good grief.
@Gos1234567
@Gos1234567 4 жыл бұрын
lol that guy is terrible,hilarious to watch these donkeys
@chrisw6120
@chrisw6120 5 жыл бұрын
720 into 995 is NOT polarizing
@captureleo
@captureleo 5 жыл бұрын
Great content! I know these hands are a while back, and people played differently. IMHO the 72% bet on river isn't indicative of Polarization. Maybe back then, it has similar meaning to today's overbet shove. In today's game, people would value bet thin a lot with that sizing. Not to mention, there is 3 combos of straight flush, and up to 8 combos of Axss
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 5 жыл бұрын
Leo Chen actually the hand is from last week. And $2k into $2900 in this spot is going to be a flush or nothing..
@hymnofashes
@hymnofashes 5 жыл бұрын
@@CrushlivePoker Bart said he would defend both calls. And sure enough, he just did.
@chrisw6120
@chrisw6120 5 жыл бұрын
2000 into 2950 is NOT polarizing gdi
@GRice999
@GRice999 5 жыл бұрын
It's not just the size of the bet that makes it polarizing, it's the situation. SB has bet representing a flush. He probably has a flush or a busted hand. He could have aces up or a slow played set, but he has to fear the flush himself then, and would probably bet less than 2/3 the pot. Even if he bet the same, he's still polarized with that range, it's just wider and vulnerable to a call by a better hand or raise (And he's betting because the third club might cause BB to check behind). Would he bet that much on Ax of spades? I doubt it, as he'd want to get paid off with a lesser hand, not scare it away, and effectively turn it into a bluff. The same with other hands--betting them turns them into bluffs. Of course if he knows BB will call down in that spot with all of his bluff catchers, then he won't bluff and bet all of his good eights or better. In that case his range is linear and not polarized. But that's probably unlikely.
@chrisw6120
@chrisw6120 5 жыл бұрын
ty for ur detailed explanation
@hymnofashes
@hymnofashes 5 жыл бұрын
Today I lost the last $118 of my bankroll when a fish who calls $40 3-bets in a $1/$3 game with 57s for half his stack called me with a3o. He flopped trips on a j33 board and I had tens. He calls my c-bet and the turn is a queen. I check to him and now he fires a large-ish bet and I think "Unless he has exactly QJ, does he play a jack this way? Wouldn't the overcard bother him? I hoped my turn check-call looked weak, because I was trying to induce. And sure enough he jammed the brick river. If only I'd realized that his ridiculous donk calls earlier, like calling off with missed A7 when his opponent turned over his hand and showed him a pair of deuces with one card to come, absolutely didn't mean that he was capable of any bluffs. Rather, they meant that he was capable of having a three. And the way he played the hand was consistent with all of the combinations of threes, literally all of which are in his range. So he WAS polarized. But can he bluff? Maybe not. I'll never know because I'm broke.
@luukverhoek4243
@luukverhoek4243 5 жыл бұрын
No offence but you call him a fish while you sound yourself like a big fish 😂
@KaOTrick
@KaOTrick 5 жыл бұрын
Get a job, improve your game, rebuild a roll and get back on track! losing is learning, GL!
@hymnofashes
@hymnofashes 5 жыл бұрын
@@luukverhoek4243 I have a VPIP of 5. I have a leak, which is leveling myself into calling river bets too wide against players who haven't demonstrated they can bluff because I'm trying to avoid the emotional pain of losing the pot or ending the session down. And I don't manage my bankroll very well. Those two things, combined with the fact that the rake takes half the pot in a Los Angeles 1/3, make me a losing player. Whenever players get out of the way on the flop after missing, their call gets raked away, so if they play fit-or-fold, and they often do, they can speculatively call with a wide range and I cannot profit even if they miss constantly. The house profits in that case. Eventually I will cooler them, but as I said, I pay off too much when they hit, and the river bets are, of course, the biggest bets, and have no marginal rake, so that leak alone is enough to be fatal. Are you a long-term winning player in a game with $6 rake and $50 stacks? The professional consensus (Bart, Little, Torelli, that I've asked so far) is that these games are either unbeatable or only marginally beatable, and your hourly might make them not worth beating depending on your cost of living. I survived for 2 months in these card rooms paying $4000 in expenses a month for, I don't know... 240 hours a month? I doubt a fish can survive 480 hours in a 1/2 or a 1/3 with such a structure and not-quite make $8000. On the contrary, they'd spew that amount in a week.
@geoffbeyer1873
@geoffbeyer1873 5 жыл бұрын
Before this hand you were obviously on a down swing given that you said you were making a living off of the game? I'm not judging or taking the piss either, but if it's the case shoot me an email at beyer.ltd@gmail.com I might be able to help you out. I'm not a coach or selling anything, just to be clear.
@luukverhoek4243
@luukverhoek4243 5 жыл бұрын
@@hymnofashes "I have a vpip of 5" ......... Thats terrible. And sure a fish can survive 480 hours. A fish easily can get on a heater and survive 10k hands or more.
@Belmontclan2682
@Belmontclan2682 4 жыл бұрын
I just stared watching your channel about a week ago. Like it very much but I just now know your a Pats fan. And it sickens me 🤢🤮. I’ll keep watching your video cause I want to be a better poker player but this news is very upsetting lol
@bakaraymoo7389
@bakaraymoo7389 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being so uninteresting that sportsball is a big part of your personality
@chrispythegull
@chrispythegull 5 жыл бұрын
This video seems like one long exercise in mental masturbation. Sounds like Ryan Feldman had his commentary spot on and he did it in about 19 fewer minutes...
@welovelibraries4556
@welovelibraries4556 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a big leak in your game Bart
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 5 жыл бұрын
99% of you won’t GET IT what is a big leak?
@welovelibraries4556
@welovelibraries4556 5 жыл бұрын
You call way too lightly
@welovelibraries4556
@welovelibraries4556 5 жыл бұрын
Think of it this way - think Slater in SB LI why did he call heads (Which was a strategy) in OT? Cause it had been tails on the 1st flip to start the game. When you are in a polarized situation it’s basically a coin flip if you don’t have any additional OBJECTIVE information off your opponent. Hence you make a hero call earlier in a polarized situation which is a coin flip 50/50 - the odds of you being right when you call again in any given session (small sample size I know) decreases.
@SydBaron
@SydBaron 3 жыл бұрын
Raises with rubbish and can't fold ever. The club is unnecessary on the river; an ace should make anyone fold. Unreal.
@conephompany
@conephompany 3 жыл бұрын
he's only bluffing with straight bluffs, bc all the flush bluffs get there. Like you said you block all the 9 straighters, so I think it's a fold. If the river was offsuit ace, you could call against that polarized sizing.
@JeffHoopAdventure
@JeffHoopAdventure 5 жыл бұрын
Down vote for the Patriots jersey. Not kidding............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................Okay I'm kidding; but seriously Fuk the Patriots.
@jeffcruver5688
@jeffcruver5688 5 жыл бұрын
This month has been hell for me lost 1300 bucks last time I played. Don't even wanna play anymore think I'm done with poker.. Guy calls my 38 dollar pre flop bet with 3 5 of hearts and I have poket kings flop comes 33j I lead for a hundred turn comes 7 I jam for three hundred he calls and gives me the news think I'm done after this some stupid tornement player. Don't wanna play after this beat.
@TheTcepnt
@TheTcepnt 5 жыл бұрын
35 suited against KK is a %21 hand. It'll win 1 out of 5 times, if you're going to be results oriented and not think about the long run, you shouldn't be playing to begin with. Run that hand 10 times with a $1,000 stack and you profit $6,000, statistically.
@johannesvanderburgh5831
@johannesvanderburgh5831 3 жыл бұрын
@david u are wrong. U assume the 3 5 will go broke even after not hitting any pair on flop against KK. Other guy raises 38 preflop and loses whole stack. Run that scenario 10x like u said and the 3 5 has to beat KK once to make profit in the long run...
@daydaydful
@daydaydful 3 жыл бұрын
@@johannesvanderburgh5831 oh wow I never thought about it in that way I usually think the same way the guy above does that 3 5s vs KK is a profit all day and give me that any day but like u said when 3 5s doesnt hit a set orca flush draw he just check folds but when he hits a set or a flush vs KK he takes KK for his entire stack.. wow so the long run might be a convoluted assumption based off of some results and being more aware with overpairs to ur opponents play.. thanks for that. If I'm understanding that right
@daydaydful
@daydaydful 3 жыл бұрын
When u led for 100 and he called u didnt completely rethink whether u were good or not with 33 out there i would be very concerned when he calls a 100 bet on the flop. I would proceed with caution next time that's all.
@bakaraymoo7389
@bakaraymoo7389 3 жыл бұрын
Matt needs to be uninvited after tanking the turn decision. This is fucking televised he is wasting everyone's time
@venge2charger
@venge2charger 5 жыл бұрын
I’m so tired of hand history, shit now in days people do all kinds of shit. He should’ve have folded on the flop.
@456redskins
@456redskins 5 жыл бұрын
How in the world do you not check on the river is beyond me? Obviously I was right as what do you think he was calling with...terrible play and stop justifying your bad play to people.
@mattjwatson5089
@mattjwatson5089 3 жыл бұрын
Dude didn't even realize he had any 10 to make a straight. Its all in the class folks.lol
@harrycardillo8671
@harrycardillo8671 5 жыл бұрын
This weeks training video: Bart Doesn't Like to Fold, and Neither Should You. Now if we could just brand your clients in some way (maybe a giant "B" on their foreheads) I could pick more profitable games.
@Jake-ho5ij
@Jake-ho5ij 5 жыл бұрын
Longest over analysis of a donkey call I’ve ever seen. It worked out for you by sheer luck. You only beat nothing. This is what you call the ‘hero’ effect. Want to make super calls because you’re on LATB LOL
@jasonfletcher9115
@jasonfletcher9115 5 жыл бұрын
too much talking
@vladcracana610
@vladcracana610 5 жыл бұрын
Mister Bart the poker commentator has very Polarized explanations, he seems a troll, but sometimes I really think that he believes what he's saying
@ronfarrell08
@ronfarrell08 5 жыл бұрын
That's 1 ugly jersey
@LeitoGuerrero5
@LeitoGuerrero5 5 жыл бұрын
Woooow I just lost 20 minutes seeing a guy trying to explain the donkey plays that he does
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 5 жыл бұрын
Leonardo Guerrero Solorio you stink
@fmann7545
@fmann7545 5 жыл бұрын
Your reads are great, and your play is bold, but You said you might be good 1 out of 3.5 times, on what you said was a 50/50 chance between bluff and the goods. And then you called. The proposition is 50/50. Your a loser over the long run regardless of your pot odds. Im not liking the call , excellent play up to the river through. I like how you think.
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