Injector Removal - 2006 Mercedes E320 CDI OM648 Diesel - 188,000 miles - BLACK DEATH
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@tomayrscotland68902 күн бұрын
Very cost effective Barry andrews..Well done.
@seebassark-illa48604 жыл бұрын
That homemade tool 😍👌 amazing. Good job. Thanks for the vid.
@smiley199124 жыл бұрын
Excellent outside the box thinking on your press, thank you for sharing that.
@robsonbrito32044 жыл бұрын
What a great idea! Thank you for posting this video.
@farerse3 жыл бұрын
Great idea, I've seen a few of these videos the middle ones seems to always be the worst leakers probably due to heat
@roundstar7 ай бұрын
I appreciate the video! I had one injector stuck more than the one in your video, actually breaking a factory injector claw. I was ready to cut my injector or break my valve cover because I need to remove my head to replace it and saved my $1000’s by not having to destroy more than I needed.
@karmicmessenger7 ай бұрын
Great addition to my arsenal, thank you.
@fuffoon11 ай бұрын
If you are planning to keep you diesel Mercedes-Benz, then there is no need to wait until its leaking and stuck. Make injector re-seating a part of the routine schedule.
@barrydandrews11 ай бұрын
Agreed. In this particular case, I obtained the Mercedes from an auto auction and it would seem routine maintenance was not something the previous owner was aware of.
@CamronLockeАй бұрын
@@barrydandrews It's a shame how these cars were treated by the previous owners. I obtained one that also was poorly maintained. It's amazing how these cars can still run and drive with so much wrong with them. I'm having to replace the timing chain in my om648 as it has stretched from dirty oil 8 degrees.
@dinoamadsilvino19073 жыл бұрын
Great idea man, Weldone.
@luiscoelho35234 жыл бұрын
Great!! Thank you for sharing!
@marginal5774 Жыл бұрын
Admiring patience, innovation, perseverance.
@eremiaclaudiuterbea41043 жыл бұрын
Bravo Dottore complimenti
@ogrethug25573 жыл бұрын
That is an awesome idea !!! Nice !
@andrewgsxr11274 жыл бұрын
Awesome idea!
@turgaykotil18304 жыл бұрын
very successful dismantling. congratulations. to make special apparatus for dismantling is very successful
@cfrayre65724 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Excellent trick.
@aheist3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic DIY tool! I'm battling a VERY stuck #1 injector in a 2004 Mercedes Sprinter. I think it's funny that in this video you can see the injector coming up with the slide hammer, but you still opted for the giant press. What I would give to see my injector move AT ALL!! Thanks for sharing this.
@barrydandrews3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the point of making this video was to show a method that works when you have really stuck injectors. Injectors can be stuck for a number of different reasons. For example, the engine may have been removed from the vehicle and not running, or the injector bodies may be warped or cracked, etc. For this particular Mercedes E320, ALL of the injectors could have been removed with just the slide hammer. But I have encountered other cars with stuck injectors where every method failed except for the press I showed in this video. I am not trying to say that this is the best method that should be used in all situations. But when you run into that VERY stuck #1 injector in a 2004 Mercedes Sprinter, give this method a try and let me know how it goes!
@dickdaley90597 ай бұрын
Please get the engine heat soaked as much as possible and work fast so it does not cool too much before attempting to lift the injector. Every bit of help with this project will be necessary. Good luck!
@chuckbrown5035 Жыл бұрын
Genius.
@jinishtolonov60615 жыл бұрын
Thenk you. It's new for me.
@ajdahun9 ай бұрын
Brilliant.
@rostombasil35754 жыл бұрын
This is very effective tools, most Time it is the last way for the bad injectors. I did Similar one last week
@philzambo4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea, well done...
@MrKozak19913 жыл бұрын
I recommend brake fluid plus some time. How it is possible it is good to warm up the engine, it also helps. I worked the topic in om647m
@kerrynball27344 жыл бұрын
Impressive
@jameslewis62152 жыл бұрын
Ingenious! Can you show 3/4 hole locations? Thanks
@heinz4902 жыл бұрын
that job on my hyundai terracan after 200.000 kmt was one hour there was no carbon but pressure lost on the commonrail hard cold start i have seen mb tech that runs away from injector jobs
@williamnewsome5169 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't have made it more difficult if I had tried. Brother!
@barrydandrews Жыл бұрын
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@barrydandrews Жыл бұрын
You have never had a seized injector I guess. This particular vehicle was not that bad but on Mercedes CDI sometimes removing the injectors can be difficult. Other methods involve unscrewing the solenoid and threading in a rod but that usually requires an injector rebuild. eg. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/as16ndyov7q4epc.html
@richardkaz23364 жыл бұрын
You should have soaked the crud around the injectors with a solvent de-greaser, washed and dried it. Then soaked it with a good wet dosage of WD40 and allow it to soak over night. Then undo the injector clamp bolts 2-3mm started the engine and run it for 5-10 minuets and then driven the car around the block. The heat would soften the tar crud and compression would have popped the injectors up enough to allow you to soak some more WD40 and pull the ejectors out.
@barrydandrews4 жыл бұрын
Yes that is a good approach too. I didn't show it but Injectors #2, #4, and #5 were removed by basically following this approach. On injector #1 in this video you can see that the injector was just starting to move with the slide hammer. But sometimes the injectors are so stuck that even after running and cracking injector clamp bolts the injectors won't budge. This can happen when the injectors have actually failed and are physically broken/cracked etc. There are also situations when an engine won't run or has been removed from a vehicle. Anyway, thank you for the feedback. It is good to have options.
@manqobawiseman88934 жыл бұрын
Easy said, but I drove my cat for about 300km and still it won't come out I am going to try this way now
@barrydandrews4 жыл бұрын
@@manqobawiseman8893 Good luck. I have used this hydraulic jack and plate approach with three CDIs all with success.
@davidelliott5843 Жыл бұрын
I had the sand problem on a Fiat diesel. Soaking with solvents had absolutely zero effect. The worst injector had to be jacked out. When I got the cylinder head off, the affected piston was full of hard carbon coke. That would have destroyed the turbo at the very least.
@dannygio48583 жыл бұрын
hi dear distance MM from every holes in the plate?
@jpmorgen57262 жыл бұрын
I was trying to come up with the same sort of puller for a Sprinter van, 2005, but the valve cover is so weak I couldn't push down where I wanted, but your way gives me some more ideas!!
@barrydandrews2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing a similar approach for the 2005 Sprinter should be possible and work well.
@barrydandrews2 жыл бұрын
You may need to get creative if the 5th injector is stuck as access may be difficult.
@berniemac8413 Жыл бұрын
Did you find a way to remove them?
@jpmorgen5726 Жыл бұрын
@@berniemac8413 Bit the bullet, ordered the Cheap puller where you have to unscrew the top off the injector, bought new injectors to replace them with, didn't want to mess with having them cleaned, tested....all good now.
@berniemac8413 Жыл бұрын
@@jpmorgen5726 ahhh okay. Where’s a good place to purchase replacement injector’s?
@danielkhumalo46024 жыл бұрын
Man that's great and clever way of doing it! Where are you based mate?
@barrydandrews4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the compliment. I live in Northern California. Cheers.
@abdimokanovic31853 жыл бұрын
Good job and thank you for sharing. Is there a gasket under that oil fill component? I notice some oil (on my car’s engine) around that area.
@barrydandrews3 жыл бұрын
There is an o-ring (approx. diameter 6cm) and a rubber grommet (approx. diameter 1cm). I hope this helps. Cheers.
@abdimokanovic31853 жыл бұрын
Yes, it does! Much appreciated. Cheers to you
@chriswilliams26523 жыл бұрын
Wow worst case I've seen. I had an 06 with 425k and no issues before it got totaled and now have an 05 with over 305k with no injector issue. Only body issues like trunk leaks really. I love this engine.
@kat019711 ай бұрын
This method not working on BMW N47 engine. Waiting for hydraulic / pneumatic one. Maybe will help.
@keesstaps46064 жыл бұрын
bloody beaty idea
@Peppermint14 жыл бұрын
Can I share a section of the video on my channel ? I'd like to present your assembly for other applications, such as removing a stuck transmission axle or a wheel bearing
@barrydandrews4 жыл бұрын
You can share a section of the video as long as you reference the original source (this channel). Thanks.
@Peppermint14 жыл бұрын
@@barrydandrews Perfect
@bladerunner3502 жыл бұрын
Hi Barry, great video. managed to get my injector out and was careful not to allow crud to go into the injector clamp stretch bolt hole. Got myself a 3/16" 12" drill bit to clear out the hole, but if seems impossible to rotate the drill bit by hand, and the hole feels kinda wierd as if there is a sheared off section of an old bolt in the hole. The bolt i took out is exactly the same size as the Febi replacement bolt kit i bought to re-fit, so this cant be true. have you come across this before?. Many thanks.
@barrydandrews2 жыл бұрын
Try comparing to the other holes. Does that drill bit go in as far? If not, you probably have something in there.
@bladerunner3502 жыл бұрын
@@barrydandrews Ok Barry, thanks for the comeback. Comparing bolt/drill bit drop there certainly is something in there. So..decided to bite the bullet and drill it out. Started with a 200mm long 2mm tungsten tip bit and got (turning slowly on drill speed) to full depth. Drilled all the way up to 3/16....then the bit broke (not the 12"). So i now have just the tip of a drill bit stuck in there, AND the original problem. The only thing i can think of it was some kind of bodged heli coil done by the previous owner. The car was awash with "Bodge jobs", and its taken me 2 years to work my way through them. Am stuck now between a rock and a hard place with the car, and this could well be the end of its days. I guess its a warning to everyone. Thanks for your help anyway.
@barrydandrews2 жыл бұрын
@@bladerunner350 Sorry to hear that. For stripped threads without broken drill bits etc. this is a good solution: www.timesert.com/html/1610E2-note.html
@barrydandrews2 жыл бұрын
If the drill bit is broken inside aluminum you might be able to use the technique in my other video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hLuAn6qZ2rKsiKM.html
Great video. Thank you Did you re use the same injectors or you replaced all of them?
@barrydandrews3 жыл бұрын
I bench tested all six injectors - they were fine and so I reinstalled them.
@erikgreen97162 жыл бұрын
@@barrydandrews how did you bench test them?
@barrydandrews2 жыл бұрын
@@erikgreen9716 Search on eBay for "CR-C multifunction diesel common rail injector tester S60H Nozzle Validator". I used something like that.
@PARDS24 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!! SUPERB JOB!!!!!! DID YOU MAKE THIS METHOD UP OR DID YOU SEE IT SOMEWHERE? MUCH BETTER THAN PULLING THE HEAD!!!
@barrydandrews4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for feedback. I came up with this method when trying to remove injectors from a Mercedes engine that was removed from the vehicle. All other approaches had failed.
@jordanfinlay14103 жыл бұрын
@@barrydandrews your ideas been stolen lol im making one of them
@SG9012 жыл бұрын
Very good idea, maybe you can help me with an idea. I had a broken injector bold and after trying so many things i ended up dieper and dieper with drilling o the bold. And after so many times i measure , i drill to diep and come in the water channel under the blod. Is there a way to solve this hole? I went to an mecanic near by and he told me to tap new threads and put in a inbus screw with some pasta around to close the hole and then above make new threats for the 6 or 8 mm bold to hold down the injector. What all off you think of this solution? Or have you other ideas to repair this without taken the head off. I am open for eny sugestions. Kind regards geert.
@barrydandrews2 жыл бұрын
Have you drilled all the way into the block? Removing the head is not too difficult and so you might consider doing that. At least you will be able to assess the problem better and hopefully achieve a better solution. To remove the remnant of a steel bolt that is surrounded by aluminum please look at my other video for a novel approach.
@66Pipes66 Жыл бұрын
Oven cleaner is better. Love the press though, much less chance of breaking an injector with a firm steady pull. ❤
@barrydandrews Жыл бұрын
Over cleaner works but don't leave it in contact with aluminum for too long ...
@ricardopereira7713 жыл бұрын
🤘👌✌️💪
@mimisides3 жыл бұрын
What motor is this? The om648? Does it also effect the om613
@barrydandrews3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is the om648. We don't have the om613 in North America but I'm guessing the injectors would be similar with similar problems.
@davidnjoroge84954 жыл бұрын
best way i ti make sure you attain operating temperature then spray paint remover they will slide easily out
@barrydandrews4 жыл бұрын
Yes, what you describe is the best way most of the time. But when that fails (eg. engine not running or removed from vehicle) then it is good to have other options.
@cali_cal9 ай бұрын
spray paint remover is that strong?
@SG9012 жыл бұрын
yes i forgot to say its a om646 EVO engine from 2006 to 2009. 4 cilinder e220 CDI 170PS so a 2148cc or something. Engine is 646 821 , Few days ago i went to get the head off an mercedes c203 model and engine is om 646.962 iits an c200cdi 2.2 but iits an different valve cover. mine is a black platic cover and the other one is the same like your car from alu but also 4 cylinder. I donnt know they are interchanseble? And the injectors of the EVO engine are not from bosch and the 14mm screw from the high pressure are on the top of the injector. DELPHY injector are on mine engine. Hope sombody have some idias. regards geert
@fritzz2 Жыл бұрын
why jacks a simple bolt and big nut shoud have been a good puller
@algeriathelandofterrorists33296 ай бұрын
Buy a hollow bottle jack and use it instead of the two jacks would be better
@barrydandrews6 ай бұрын
That's a good idea. Two regular bottle jacks are cheap. If you can find an inexpensive hollow bottle jack I would use that.
@algeriathelandofterrorists33296 ай бұрын
@barrydandrews I bought one for 150$ 20t. I use it for injectors, wheel bearings and bushing
@LSXREVIVAL4 жыл бұрын
How much would you charge for that plate ?
@barrydandrews4 жыл бұрын
There is nothing really special about the steel plate. It is 10" x 16" x 3/4" with three 3/4" holes drilled in it. It's heavy so it would probably be best to find a local steel supplier.
@LSXREVIVAL4 жыл бұрын
@@barrydandrews thanks for the info Barry. Any recommendations on how to get a stuck injector copper washer out on this motor ? tried using a pick no luck.
@barrydandrews4 жыл бұрын
@@LSXREVIVAL Try a long slotted screwdriver and gently poke at and pry the copper washer. You could also try using some penetrating fluid to soften up any deposits.
@aeroflopper2 жыл бұрын
the tops of them injectors unscrew so you can screw on your pulling tool, and who left it so long. that takes a long time leaking to coat everything like that.
@barrydandrews2 жыл бұрын
I find keeping the injectors intact and not unscrewing the tops is an overall better approach. You might need to test/recalibrate the injectors if you start pulling the tops off. The car had the "black death" when I acquired it so I don't know how long it was running like that.
@mike82y Жыл бұрын
you can just losen the bolts 3 turns and let the engine run hot the injectors will pop
@barrydandrews Жыл бұрын
Yes, that will probably work too. I may make another video that shows this same engine pulled from a wrecking yard where someone has attempted to pull the injectors and has cracked the cover. In this case the engine is not in a car, not running and the injectors are stuck. So it is good to have different options to pull these injectors.
@cali_cal9 ай бұрын
if i turn , the top part only loosens not the hole injector...
@abelsolimann4014 жыл бұрын
Pourquoi tout ce montage?il suffit de relever la plaque au centre d'un coup sec et avec le choc cela décolle le porte injecteur.
@barrydandrews4 жыл бұрын
Mon français n'est pas bon et je ne suis donc pas sûr de comprendre votre commentaire. Plusieurs fois, une approche à marteau coulissant fonctionnera surtout si le moteur est à la température de fonctionnement. Mais parfois, les injecteurs sont tellement bloqués qu'il est plus facile et plus rapide d'utiliser l'approche que j'ai montrée dans la vidéo. (Traduction gracieuseté de Google Translate). My French is not good and so I'm not sure I understand your comment. Many times a slide hammer approach will work especially if the engine is at operating temperature. But sometimes the injectors are so stuck that it is easier and faster to use the approach I showed in the video.
@abelsolimann4014 жыл бұрын
@@barrydandrews OK! I undestand the problem.
@brianhoffding14 жыл бұрын
just turn it on, let it idle till it is hot(2-3 houres), then the the black stuff is like bubble gum, and you can just pull them out
@barrydandrews4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that approach often works. But sometimes the injectors are so stuck either due to injector damage or the engine is not running (maybe it was removed from the vehicle). In these cases it is much easier (and faster) to use the approach I showed in the video. In much less than the 2-3 hours you take to get the engine hot, the job is done!
@neilhoganwa2 жыл бұрын
I thought Mine were hard to get out after 307.000 ks. I just used a Leaver and screw driver.
@user-zb5nm8lq5e2 жыл бұрын
2т домкраты потянут?
@barrydandrews2 жыл бұрын
Each bottle jack was labelled as 8 ton. Smaller jacks might works as well.
@ronaldbrosius7488 Жыл бұрын
You need to change your oil
@hot-shotlabel3212 Жыл бұрын
Just like scooter way
@jasonmoss68912 жыл бұрын
Engine hoist?
@karmicmessenger7 ай бұрын
Tried that, a couple of times I actually lifted the entire front of the car by pulling on the injector. This way is better. The problem with a lot of pullers is that they have no solid surfaces to push against and this gentleman has come up with a brilliant option with those sockets and extensions.
@repairvehicle3 жыл бұрын
Soaking with carburetor cleaner, will help removing
@heinz49029 күн бұрын
vw audi kia hyundai renault and many more dont have the black death
@frajtak53 ай бұрын
ok polska
@jadesluv3 жыл бұрын
Did you realize the long rod that screws into the forked injector puller is part of a slide hammer set? You are just missing the slide weight. So no monkey business with the extensions and the board and the bottle jacks and the steel channel and the set up!
@barrydandrews3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you did not watch the entire video where I show and use the slide hammer set. The whole point of this setup is to give an option for situations when injectors are VERY stuck. This can happen when the injectors are physically deformed from heat or in situations where the engine is not running and you do not have the benefit of engine heat to help loosen the injectors.