2008 Volkswagen Passat 2.0T (BPY)- Extended Cranking, No Power, MIL

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2008 Volkswagen Passat 2.0T (BPY)- Extended Cranking, No Power, MIL - P0087 Fuel Rail PSI Too Low

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in this video we are working on a 2008 VW Passat with a 2.0 turbo engine, engine code is bpy, this is a gdi or direct injection fuel system, customer complaint is that the vehicle has an extended crank, no power when accelerating, and the check engine light is on, trouble code stored is p0087 fuel rail pressure too low, I hope you enjoy this video and thanks for watching

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@frontlinemedia4270 3 жыл бұрын

You could have a good electrical signal in the fpr and still have a mechanical failure. There's also a gauge to test the hpfp but no one seems to have this. It was a good video

@NewLevelAuto 6 жыл бұрын

Let me start by saying HAPPY BIRTHDAY! , ok now I'll watch the video

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 6 жыл бұрын

thanks

@baxrok2. 6 жыл бұрын

Good god, the follower wears out and then destroys the pump and camshaft! Unreal. Well done. Thanks!

@rickjeffjeff 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the detailed video.Helped me understand the system.

@bodgitandleggitgarage 6 жыл бұрын

Happy Birthday mate I will have to watch the video later😁😁😁

@heyitschinoable 6 жыл бұрын

Wow thats a trippy design.

@billyyoder8171 6 жыл бұрын

Good job. Thank you Tommy. Happy Birthday.

@jennyzheng5700 4 жыл бұрын

Could you make video for replacement 2008 volkswagen passat 2.0L cooling fan Thank you

@jesseshope2125 4 жыл бұрын

Just replaced my HPFP, cam follower, fuel module, thrust sensor, fuel filter, pressure sensor, coils, spark plugs and oil change. My fuel pressure sits at 75psi with key on, and aggressively goes between 50-100psi while running. EPC/CEL lights are on its popping up random multiple misfire, low fuel rail pressure and fuel pressure regulator malfunction.. any help?? Thanks!

@inkredablek 6 жыл бұрын

I have Passat 2008 and my car stopped while driving. The starter not working and noticed the ac compressor wheel locked where the belt connected. I try to jump it didn’t starter and the mechanic said bad starter connected into compressor in one component. Also need an oil changed because the oil was low. I was planning to get oil changed but the car stop. Give me your intake about the issue. Thanks in advance!

@niallseddon8657 6 жыл бұрын

Hi can you finish the scroll through the measuring blocks that would be really usefull

@alekstolstoi 2 жыл бұрын

i have the same exact problem, in high side fuel pressure i see 7 bar, and the low side is oscilating between 60 and 70 psi, what do you think i can do, also the intank fuel pump makes some noise like the voltage is going up and down

@fieldsofomagh 6 жыл бұрын

Happy birthday and job well done.

@pskauto6798 6 жыл бұрын

great video showing the process for this. lets not forget about the metal pieces FROM the failed follower...where are they all now? in the pan? in the head? or sitting in the $700 side cover....:)

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 6 жыл бұрын

a huge piece was in the side cover, the image with both followers shows a small black piece next to them

@nandor690 6 жыл бұрын

What did the cam look like?

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 6 жыл бұрын

the lobe was pretty worn and had a nice rough surface

@TV-gh7ug Жыл бұрын

Can you use Electric Fuel Pump

@prospexican 6 жыл бұрын

hi, do u have an idea what the voltage should be on a fuel rail pressure sensor signal; return gray and blue wire? with engine idler

@meddial-mandhari9509 6 жыл бұрын

Very brightning video.. If u can do a video for removing the cam that would be nice..

@autotech1467 6 жыл бұрын

Very good video! Thanks

@Pdubforever1 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome video

@donaldisrael7147 4 жыл бұрын

Have you ever had one that did not require cam replacement?

@edwinmartinez5530 5 жыл бұрын

I have the same scanner how do you set up the scale

@hamham4547 6 жыл бұрын

hey tommy what if an injector stuck open

@frontlinemedia4270 3 жыл бұрын

You would have a low pressure as well. You can find acorn nuts and put a sealing surface in the back of the nut. I used a short teflon spacer. Then cap the feed for the injector you think is leaking. Then try to start it. I did this on my sprinter, started right up and the injector was bad

@Tellmewhatchawant 4 жыл бұрын

How much would something like that cost to fix on average for parts and labor?

@pontesmocho3140 6 жыл бұрын

Hi mate.. Did you know speedometer sensor G22 location in gearbox JP JC7- 09B 321 107? Thanks

@robertficek7586 3 жыл бұрын

ODIS 😍 make me want to buy VAS

@somerandomguy3868 6 жыл бұрын

How many miles on this car? Good video

@yomerengues6791 3 жыл бұрын

I have an Audi A4 1.8 tfsi b8 and it starts up fine in the morning but when I let the car sit on the sun all day right now on hot days and crank it, it delays three or four seconds then starts no check engine light no power loss

@yomerengues6791 3 жыл бұрын

It’s really getting on my nerves since it doesn’t seem anything wrong with it other than that

@balafulama6005 6 жыл бұрын

How would you get that cam follower out?

@leenunez167 5 жыл бұрын

Do Yoh Know What P008a code could be ??

@roadkill5333 6 жыл бұрын

Have the parts cannon all ready and loaded, in case you don't figure it out!!

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 6 жыл бұрын

never keep the parts cannon loaded

@samshi5829 6 жыл бұрын

Am getting 2.61 on block 103 with vcds... took the pump apart and cam follower seems ok but still getting P0310B and P0877 low fuel pressure help

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 6 жыл бұрын

2.61 seems low. Install a fuel pressure gauge on the LOW side of the fuel system and compare actual pressure to your scantool

@ro-longo3697 6 жыл бұрын

You are hereby now know has "Kermit the Glove", lol just kidding, Nice video. Thanks for sharing

@generluna5456 4 жыл бұрын

Hello, i have a mk5 GLI , 2006 same motor BPY , i have that problem of long ckank. But sometimes, even i’m running well, if i stop and turn off the car, if i try to start again inmediatly it does that long. Crank, sometimes happens and sometimes don’t. So i checked high side and is workin in about 50 bar at idle, and increases if i acelerate, low side, seems to be fine too, it runs over 5 bar. My gasoline filter is 6.6 bar. Should be this the problem? I replaced 2 times with the same 6.6 filter but still the same. What can you recomend to check?? I noticed when car is cold. Is longer the crack. But if i open the switch and press 2 or 3 times the brake pedal. It start really quick. Should be a vacuumproblem?

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 4 жыл бұрын

It sounds like you have a fuel pressure bleed down. Install a gauge on the low side of the system. Start the car let it idle then shut it off and watch the gauge. Pressure should hold above 3 bar.

@EXOVCDS 6 жыл бұрын

As common as this is... I have yet to see it in person.

@baxrok2. 6 жыл бұрын

Thomas EXOVCDS Is this a TSB item? VW knows about it and changes it when customer comes in for service?

@EXOVCDS 6 жыл бұрын

You're asking the wrong guy! Tommy would know more about that than I.

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 6 жыл бұрын

I don't think there are any tsbs for this, but once you know about it, it should be checked as a preventative maintenance

@justinregister795 6 жыл бұрын

Positive Lead Diagnostics how often should the cam follower be checked?

@CHIBA280CRV 6 жыл бұрын

Man I'm glad I have an electric fuel pump ! How many miles on the car ?

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 6 жыл бұрын

I think around 100k, this veh has 2 pumps, a transfer pump in the fuel tank and a high pressure pump on the head

@exmotorsports 6 жыл бұрын

Mileage on this? Common problem..Thanks for sharing Tom, Just another reason to stay away from VW. haha

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 6 жыл бұрын

I think around 100k

@ScottPuopolo 6 жыл бұрын

How does that happen on a Volkswagen?

@JoelAutomotiveInaction 6 жыл бұрын

what id the name of the scan tool you are using because is not vag??

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 6 жыл бұрын

The one in this video is a factory scantool vas6150

@prospexican 4 жыл бұрын

HI POSITIVE I HAVE A 2006 PASSAT 2.0 TSI, WITH problems at low pressure sensor circuit #2 circuit not getting full voltage, any ideas? other 2 ckts ok.

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 4 жыл бұрын

Your testing the low pressure sensor that’s k. The high pressure fuel pump correct? What’s your voltage? I think there was an old recall on those sensors.

@prospexican 4 жыл бұрын

Positive Lead Diagnostics hi, thank you for answering. On the sensor going to HP PUMP, i have 5 volts on the next circuit batterie voltage and on the # 2 circuit about 7 volts when alldata says is supposed to be batterie voltage. And the FP REG. doing the same voltage unplugged and with key on. My whatsap 7023407597 👍🏻

@ryanbruno2614 4 жыл бұрын

God, I just did one and now the pressure violently fluctuates between 50 and a 100psi.I might stab a rear pump in. Any suggestions are welcome.

@jesseshope2125 4 жыл бұрын

Results? I’m having the same problem thanks!

@philh9238 6 жыл бұрын

needed the blue wrench to get it out of there... (cutting torch)...

@Gagik5779 6 жыл бұрын

Positive Lead Diagnostics I dont know your name so I dont know how to apply So is gdi fuel pressure selenoid peak and hold type or it is saturated injection type and second question can car runs with disconected harness of that selenoid ???????? Thanks for advance

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 6 жыл бұрын

they are piezo electric fuel injectors, the waveforms look similar to peak and hold, and with the hpfp solenoid disconnected it would run on low side pressure only

@Gagik5779 6 жыл бұрын

interesting look likes an common rail injectors ,but I had repaired one vag dont remember tsfi may be It have fuel simple injectors for idle prm and have direct injector for higher prm one onjector has shorted but on 85000km Love VAG cars ,thanks for answer greetings from Armenia

@C00KIE_M0NSTER01 5 жыл бұрын

I have an 08 2.0T & it’s not starting. The engine light came on the day before but was too late to go hook it up. Next day I drove it a few blocks, came back out and it didn’t start. It tried to turn over the first time but now nothing. Lights, radio, sunroof etc all work but it won’t start. Silence. First non-Chevy car I’ve owned and I’m frustrated so came here. I can hear the fuel pump engage...I don’t know where to begin 😞

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 5 жыл бұрын

Scanning for codes is where I would start.

@C00KIE_M0NSTER01 5 жыл бұрын

Positive Lead Diagnostics I don’t have a code reader and wasn’t sure what to buy..the prices go from $40-$300 at the parts store 😳

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 5 жыл бұрын

Some parts stores will scan it for free. But after that they will try to sell you a part

@C00KIE_M0NSTER01 5 жыл бұрын

Positive Lead Diagnostics I can’t get it there to scan it 😭 tried to jump it..nothing

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 5 жыл бұрын

So nothing works at all similar to a dead battery?

@chrisiterbo97 6 жыл бұрын

There is a Update waiting in the lower Bar :)

@michaelszweda 6 жыл бұрын

What should the high side pressure be

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 6 жыл бұрын

usually 40-50bar

@reddbullcity 6 жыл бұрын

I have 2008 passat 2.0t and it cranks but doesn't start. Sometimes it cranks but shuts off shortly after

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 6 жыл бұрын

Any faults? Have you done any checks? Fuel? Spark? You have to see what you are missing. I would look into fuel first

@danielhabte7847 2 жыл бұрын

Got same issue can you share what was the fix

@tcifusion4497 6 жыл бұрын

I CAN ALWAYS SEND U A PHOTO OF A WORN CAM SHAFT FROM A WORN DRIVER.........REMEMBER MEASUREMENT BLOCK 140........HIGH PRESSURE ACTUAL READING.....

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 6 жыл бұрын

103 is low side if it has a low side psi sensor, 106 140 and 141 are for high side

@tcifusion4497 6 жыл бұрын

USE 140 MORE RELIABLE MY FRIEND.........FOR HIGH PRESSURE AT LEAST..GOOD TO SEE U CHECKED MY COMMENT.....

@glenharper3136 6 жыл бұрын

Wow, I guess fuel pumps in the tank are not so bad after all.

@Mad4Tracks 6 жыл бұрын

This has a fuel pump in the tank as well, it has two pumps. The high pressure fuel pump (that failed) reaches around 50 bar so that direct injection can work properly. They improved these pumps to have a cam roller instead of a follower

@throttlebottle5906 6 жыл бұрын

and folks thought a block mounted pump breaking was bad :)))

@fuckjewtube69 6 жыл бұрын

Tank fuel pumps are much harder to get to than these high pressure pumps. It takes 10 minutes to remove.

@mikesabin8568 5 жыл бұрын

@@fuckjewtube69 I disagree... Fuel tank pumps for years have access ports under the back seat.. Easy as pie. Even this cars low side pump takes ten minutes to get to under the back seat. Most cars have easy access plates under back seats these days

@fuckjewtube69 5 жыл бұрын

@@mikesabin8568 Sure and how many fuel pumps have you replaced? I do this for a living most cars don't have an access port.

@rrmech11 6 жыл бұрын

Hey Tommy What made you leave Rosedale Tech. To work on VW products

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 6 жыл бұрын

I was a student at rosedale never worked there

@rrmech11 6 жыл бұрын

Positive Lead Diagnostics i know you were a student of Paul's. What made you work on vw

@PositiveLeadDiagnostics 6 жыл бұрын

I worked at Nissan for a couple years. Then I had a job opportunity at vw and everything they offered me was 100 times better so I made the move

@33798 4 жыл бұрын

So main culprit is stuck cam follower..

@mazpr2025 Жыл бұрын

this is the reason the cam follower should be replaced every 30 to 40k, and make oil intervals every 4k-5k instead of the manufacturer recommended 10k.