Actually, they really do better. I did a similar trip (not shown in this video) and achieved 71 miles on a charge driving in city traffic.

The 8-Bit Guy That's not typical. Sure if you're driving at a constant rate and not stopping for traffic lights, stop signs etc. But then again that's not city driving, that's suburban driving. I live in Toronto, it's a big city. You'll never get better mileage in a city like Toronto, New York, Chicago, etc.

Regenerative breaking helps a lot.

Not anywhere near as much as it uses to pick up speed again. All of this is straight from the energy graphs on my Tesla.

The Chevy Volt has a completely different power-train than the Tesla.

LOL right!

It really was. Unexpected from this channel! And so true!

I dunno, I kinda like a good banana fight

+mipmipmipmipmip I wouldn't mind her banana wrestling. Mila can film it.

is that all?

@@raven4k998 some of us work from home :)

@@raven4k998 I'm 73 and just not running around much.

@@60viking well that's good stay inside and isolate yourself from people till covid 19 is gone

Get a Tesla model 3 then you don’t need to charge as much

LOL! Right. Some of my coworkers are still waiting!!

@@vap0rtranz for the money I paid for mine new nearly 4 years ago, which including Federal tax credit. was around 26k for an LT trim, it was a total bargain for what it offers. I thought sure that 4 years down the road there'd be something that offers the same combination of performance and energy efficiency for about the same price. There still isn't. the "affordable" model 3 was a feint it was never something Tesla really wanted to do, average sale price on 3s once you add heated seats, longer range battery, delivery charge etc. pushes well above 40 grand. Volt is dirt cheap to full charge and the 2nd gen you can pull 70 miles range in, around town, no prob during the summer. I've banked and invested like 4000 gallons worth of gas money I never had to pay at this point tho maybe I'll use that as a big down payment on a off-lease 3 in a year or two

@@bitrexgm Even re-sale is a bargain IMO (b/c I've been looking to buy used). @8 Bit mentions heated seats saves turning on the cabin heater, but that's only on Premium model, right? Premium seems overpriced but I'm in cold country and need good heat in winter.

​@@vap0rtranz I have the "Comfort" package on my 2017 LT it gives you at a minimum heated front seats and heated steering wheel, plus some other stuff like leather trim, heated mirrors etc. depending on the year. I think it was a $750 option. Didn't need to get the Premium package to get that and I expect some used LTs will have it. unfortunately in very cold weather like New England gets they won't keep you comfortably warm by themselves in sub-freezing temps. I still definitely need the blower heat then. but other times it does help to keep the heater use to a minimum. a minor frustration is that even on electric power the blower heat is not instant-on it takes a little bit to come up same as a gas car. Remember to set the engine-assist heat to "defer" in the settings so it only does its "engine running due to temperature" -thing occasionally while driving to when it drops below about 26F and not at 34F as I think it does stock. Volt performs very well in the cold ice and snow other than the seasonal range reduction you get in every EV. the computer bitched at me one morning when it was about -18F that it was reducing power due to low temperature, acceleration was sluggish for a few minutes then everything worked fine once the coolant temp rose. The traction control works great and the big torque easily busts it out of drifts if it's been sitting out in the snow. The stock low-rolling resistance tires will spin out from under you on even slightly damp pavement if you gun it at a stop, though, I accept a small range reduction to run a little beefier tread than that (Continental PureContact) since we get so much lousy weather

@@bitrexgm awesome detail. great to hear your experience as an owner instead of these "professional" reviewers. ty!

Do you even know what riced out means?

Petar Totev calm down, nobody even uses the term “ricer” correctly anymore

the best part was that he let off on the accelerator temporarily so you could say he was going easy on the Honda or giving him a head start and still won

Adriel R it is. It looks sporty but it was beat by a damn Chevy

It was technically not riced

Greetings!

Greetings let's go thrifting!

but does it have autopilot?

Sort off. You can get automatic cruise control with lane keep assist which is not far from Tesla's autopilot.

Erik Stephens... youre joking right? right? can this car be fully automatic, not just lane shit and speed assist... FULL autopilot?

God yes lol

@@xander1052 that what happens when he's having fun lol

@@raven4k998 indeed

You noticed that too.

Fart can mod

Super1di0t is a riced

No smoke just air resistance and wind

Haha I know it made so much noise and it didn't go anywhere

That my friends is what we call a ricer.

I have also gotten over 75 miles on a charge one time. I wasn't even trying. The conditions were just perfect, though. I have only put gas in this car one time since buying it 10 months ago.

I actually was trying to get the max, but it does not mean much. I wasn't driving any slower than the traffic, but I was using low gear to slow down (instead of braking) and the regenerative brake pedal any time I could. That means that I almost never use the brakes. The brakes are also working "regenerative" but I don't know how much regenerative and how much friction they use. So that way I know I regenerate as much as possible.

"brakes"

3 months is about as long as you can keep regular gas in a tank without it turning into useless mush.

No, I have an Onan 5KW gasoline powered generator, and the gasoline in its 9-gallon tank is over three years old. It still runs well! Maybe your gasoline station sells bad gasoline?

until claims are proven their still clams just cause they say it's so doesn't make it so and their was report of people in the first volt going one year on the first tank of gas which is never good for a gas engine

The Volt only uses gas engine a little below 15F to help make heat or for engine maintenance mode every 42 days only if you don't use the gas engine. Engine maintenance uses approximately 6 teaspoons of gasoline (yes I said teaspoons)

Ogreng Buddha I'm not saying don't run the gas engine. I understand why it has to but that means it also has to burn fossil fuels. Something a pure electric doesn't have to do.My main point though was pointing out how in pure electric mode the Volt isn't capable of long ranges. The model 3 will be. Yes I know we haven't seen it yet but Tesla has already delivered 3 times so the chances of them messing this up seem pretty slim.

Erik Stephens Even if the engine is only used a bit it's still being used. Plus the point of my original comment was pointing out how in pure electric mode the Volt isn't long range. The Model 3 will be.

I for the most part disagree. While for a smaller percentage of people you are correct overall I don't agree. The Model 3 is expected to have an ~55KWh battery. With this battery size it will not be able to handle the full 135KW charge rate at Tesla's superchargers (and we still don't know how Tesla is going to deal with the Model 3 with regards to it's supercharger network). The Model 3 will still likely take 30 to 40 minutes for an 80% charge. So that means for every 2 to 2.5 hrs of driving you will need to stop for 30 to 40 minutes. It's doable but not the greatest either. And while the supercharger network is getting fairly good it still won't get you everywhere. I still take at least one road trip a year in my Volt that a Model S 90 wouldn't be able to do. So in that situation if I owned a Model 3 I would need to rent a gas powered vehicle that has more than double the fuel consumption of my Volt (and I would still likely be able to get >30% electric in my Volt through some opportunity and destination charging on this road trip). That rental car will likely use more gas in that one trip than my Volt uses in a year. So for many people a Volt will still likely use less gasoline overall than someone with a Model 3. www.greencarreports.com/news/1097918_chevy-volt-vs-mitsubishi-i-miev-this-volt-uses-less-gas-than-electric-car-data-shows

.. the Volt really is not an EV , it has a gas motor cause most people refuse to trust ability to charge and do quarterly road trips.to loved parent yuppie Ev lovers guess hate their parents , , , half of people park in apartment parking lots and are poor buy $3000 beater not $30,000 EV, , , , it's like hot tubs and pools they are awesome but 90% skip them they spend that $5000-30,000 on food and helping family not helping climate of some hot Indonesian guy so I suspect poor half of American will stick with gasoline in their apartments , , and laugh at risking being out of charge and getting fired at the KFC, , plus coming blackouts will mean those EV drivers will get fired too unless their boss is foregiving do you think people should risk their career on this , ,,,. Just saying the counter argument to the EV sales pitch, , , I have a big sailboat 2 5hp you landlubbers are dumb ha, , ,

@@mostlyguesses8385this must be the dumbest comment here.

Part of what is appealing about an all electric car is eliminating the combustion engine with all it's maintenance (oil changes and other things). Much simpler and should be much more reliable. Maybe some day I will get one.

But a model 3 driver will have to find a charger somewhere to charge up. That may be fine for a commuter car, but for someone that wants to explore the 2 lane roads into small towns and see the country that will be a problem, because there are no chargers out there. Besides, when on a road trip nobody wants to have to stop every few hours for a forced charge. A 5 minute fill up when needed, and a stop at points of interest along the way. Volt has the freedom of a regular car. I have all the benefits of an electric and no shortcommings. I would never consider an electric only. The only cars I would consider is the volt and the bmw i3, and considering that the range on the BMW is only 80 miles between fill ups on gas, that is a no brainier.

And how often would I do that? Not very often. I think I could go rent a car for doing that trip if I actually decided to do one. What balance works for you depends on your intended use. For my use a pure electric would work fine. It would even handle the few long trips I do a few times a year since there are multiple superchargers along the way and one stop for half an hour or so would take care of it.

I don't do it often either, a few times a year, but I am not about to have a dedicated car for road trips, nor am I about to rent one. I want a car that I can go anywhere, any time and never have to worry about finding a place to charge, and I want an electric car. So for me the volt or BMW is the only choice, and because the BMW i3 makes me want to puke, that one is off the table. After driving a volt for 5 years, my choice is clear, it will be another volt for me.Does everything I want. Gives me the low cost of operation of an EV, I get access to the special lanes reserved for EV drivers, and I am not limited where I can go, and I don't have to plan my drive as other EV drivers do, Best of both worlds. End of discussion.

It's not a hybrid. URG. It's also not a comparison, because the Tesla Model 3 doesn't exist, buddy. The first Volt was a game changer (much like the Roadster), because it is a car you can drive anywhere without being scared of running out of charge. The Tesla is not currently practical, and will take decades to be... battery simply isn't good enough, and having to charge it is too difficult for people to drive out of their way to go to a Supercharger. Myself, I'd love a Tesla. I just so happen to live next to a Supercharger. However, I would rather have the Volt for the reasons I just mentioned.

Danny Rumbles Totally agree. Can’t believe GM axed it. Dumb decision. Despite that I bought a 2019 Volt Premier w/ $3750 Fed Tax Credit and $2500 state rebate. Installed a 240v charger. Absolutely love the car. Quick, nimble, stylish, quiet, great apple car-play entertainment system. At 420 mile total range there is no anxiety. If you can find a used Gen 2 Volt, it would be a great buy.

@@bobclay9058 what do you expect from GM, they have had poor management for years!

@@bobclay9058 found one today, test-drove it (never been in one before) and bought it immediately. Thanks for the advice.

Mines the red one. Im verrrrryy happy with it.

I too have the Red

I'm considering getting a used Volt, but they are hard to come by. Have you had any problems in the time you've owned it? Also, did charging it at home increase your utilities bill?

@@stephen9281 I think maybe 15 or 20 dollars per month. Very minimal!

@@josephcreed7 Wow! Seems like a good fit for me.

And also DougDemuro

No top gear no hammand who's idea the new version

Please don't say YAAASSS...

+Frihman AAASSS

I miss that show.

Yeah. As he put it, "it's the closest you'll be to a spaceship"... and also far away from a car.

He's an Amish in disguise.

That's why you channel is named The Obselete Geek

Your response reminds me of someone looking at an automobile in the year 1900. This new-fangled horseless carriage is too modern for my tastes. It doesn't have anywhere to store the hay for my horse and I can't get used to it not producing poop. Fossil fuel exhaust is today's horse poop. It is foul and mucks up our environment, yet people feel that it isn't a "real car" if it doesn't produce tons of pollution to warm the climate.

The Carpenters were in the Charts when mine was produced! 1972 Hillman Avenger, Plymouth Cricket in USA. It's got some real high tech silicon though, in that new fangled alternator gadget.

Actually, what makes the Volt different is that while there is energy left in the battery, it can run entirely on electric, no matter how fast you go. In other plug-in cars such as say the Plug-in Prius or the Ford energi cars, the gas engine kicks in if you go too fast, due to their smaller electric motors and smaller batteries not being able to deliver the power you're demanding on their own.

+Ashelm56 yeah and when they are in hybrid mode the prius gets 50mpg.. a much better road trip vehicle when the ev is gone.. if you take road trips = prius plug-in if you city drive and don't go far = Volt because if you stay within the range it will perform more like an ev and not tap into the engine much.

Holy shit. This guy thinks almost 8 seconds zero to sixty is "plenty fast." Lol. No credibility after hearing that. Hope the kool aid tastes good!

+automaton111. lol word.

I have a '73 Datsun 240Z that is about that fast and it is not "real fast" but it is "plenty fast" unless you're in a drag race.

Love You Geek Pub!

Love you

good man

What is really the point with Tesla 3... Sure if you really want it... but why? Its doesn´t do anything new.

+matsv201 fully electric 260miles(?).

+matsv201 "Autopilot" on a car that costs less than $40k isn't new? 215 mile EV range with supercharging isn't new?

About how much is it to lease the leaf?

assburgers

Also GM is just in general trash

Yep they had the only one and dropped the ball.

not backing a company for *historical* ideological reasons is a really poor decision, there's no logical reason why you should remain myopically in love with Tesla

lexus good?

Second highest reliability behind Lexus, consistently lower prices with better features and equal materials, top tier engine manufacturing (LITERALLY the best engines in the world by numerous metrics including mpg/hp, mpg/lb, mpg/volume, hp/volume, AND mtf), suspension so good that the Germans license it because they can't actually compete with it... ...yeah, sounds like GM's trash. Truck of the year, car of the year, driver's car of the year. Man, total trash.

I don’t think he was on sport mode, shame. 😖

same

Rerez same

I love ur videos

EVs include BEVs, PHEVs and non plug-in Hybrids. If it has a traction battery it's an electric car.

Sorry I wouldn't buy one. I have a 2016 Focus ST. It gets 40mpg@55 and 32mpg@80. It's quicker, more fun to drive and costs about the same. Not including the tax credit. For me the only reason to get an electric/hybrid is the tax credit. And another thing nobody wants to say is how much it costs to replace the battery when it goes bad. This is just another car like the Prius/Tesla and all the others, battery goes bad, time to sell it.

But what about your jaguar?

Please tell me who makes a hybrid with more range? The answer is, only one other vehicle and it costs a LOT more than a Volt.

I will have to defer to the other comments posted on this video about how the comparison is between and electric car and a hybrid car. Not trying to knock your video. It is a good review of the Volt but The Tesla is just not in the same class as the Volt. Its like a Ferrari vs a Miata.

My family has a leaf, and a prius. The most range we've ever gotten out of the prius was 417 miles on ful gas and charge at 55-65 mpg. The leaf achieves about 175 miles on full charge. :P

Tesla fan boy wants to find a super charge station and wait around for 45 minutes, when he gets the money to afford his cult car.

No, this is not the best Chevy can do. The Bolt is the closest comparison to a Model 3 (which is still not actually available...). It will do almost 400km on a single charge and retails around $30k in the US. Comparing a hybrid with a small battery pack and ICE and a pure electric car is apples/oranges.

I thought about that. But since the Volt is primarily only sold in the USA, I figured I would show imperial units, since that is what we use here.

You could just add imperial units or metric units in brackets and everybody would be happy now ;) Btw. Is it possible to change units in user interface?

+Atak Snajpera This video is clearly not intended for you.

 J Yu Metric system is world wide standard so I do not understand what you are trying to prove here.

+Atak Snajpera He already answered you. What's so hard to understand? Is it the language barrier? Well, English is the de facto world standard... 😇

GM's customer service has been fantastic for me. I had an early 2013 Volt with a minor software issue. An engineer from GM reached out to me personally and developed a software patch that fixed my car.

Wow, they helped 1 customer. I refuse to purchase another GM product b/c of their poor customer service. I've had a product demo of the new Volt and really like the Bolt but for the reason stated, would never buy either.

If you look at the gm-volt forum they have helped many customers in similar ways. GM's engineers follow the forums very closely and seems to work fairly well at resolving most issues quickly. Now I would say that some of the dealers have been very poor towards GM's electrified offerings. But some of them have been very good. And GM corporate has been excellent at trying to make things right when there is a problem.

um... I think you are using the term socialist democrat in the wrong way. Btw, its not an insult.

so you're telling me that the EV1 wasn't made to comply with california laws, and you're telling me that GM didn't lobby california govt to drop that law, and you're telling me that they didn't stop selling _and recall_ them as soon as california dropped the law?

+Frank Howard the Prius doesn't qualify for the Fed tax credit. Only plug-ins qualify, which would be the just released Prius Prime. However, the credit is indexed to the battery size and because the Prius Prime has a much smaller battery, it only receives a $2500 tax credit. Also, the Volt can be had for a larger discount off of the sticker price than any Prius, so it is still very compelling even if you don't get the GM family discount etc. Finally, because the Volt can run so much further on electricity, your "fueling costs" will be lower with the Volt than with a Prius or Prius Prime. That being said, this all depends on where you live (there may be state incentives), the distances you travel and if you can plug-in. :)

The Prius Prime tax credit is actually $4500 + $500 from Toyota. In fact, I am not sure the tax credit is what you will get back. That must be deducted from your taxable income which means you will save on tax the corresponding percentage of tax you are paying. If you are paying 25% on tax that means you save $250 per $1000 and not the whole amount. correct me if I am wrong. Thanks.

A Prius doesn't qualify for the Federal tax credit. A Prius Prime gets a partial tax credit, $4500, the Volt get's the full Federal Tax credit of $7500. State rebates vary by state. MA gives a $2500 rebate for the Volt and $1500 for a Prius Prime and none for a Prius. So total credits+rebate, Volt $10,000, Prius Prime $6000. The Volt is also a much better car than the Prius Prime, 0-60 in 7.8 sec vs 10.4. 53 miles of battery range vs 25. Every review that I've read says the Volt handles better. The Volt also supports Android Auto and Apple Car Play, Toyota's don't, that's huge I would never buy a car without Android Auto. The only place were the Prius Prime is better is in MPG when the battery is empty, but the Volt's much greater range means that it will almost also burn less gas. In the winter, when I don't do any road trips, I hardly use any gas in my Volt, that wouldn't be true in the Prius Prime. Road trips have to be very long before the Prius Prime does better on gas than the Volt. I did a 250 mile round trip to Vermont last Saturday, I got 60 miles on the battery and the the car claims that I got 52MPG on gas which is a little pessimistic compared to the actual gas I used which was 3.5 gallons measured at the pump which comes out to 54 MPG (190/3.5). .

Joshua Rosen who told you that? As far as I know, all plug in just get the 4,500 tax credit. Bolt is one of those pilgrims in hybrid. Both good car and have their advance and disadvantage. The Volt can run 20 miles more per charge but 15-20 miles less per gallon gas

The Volt is rated at 53 miles on battery, the Prius Prime is 25, that's 28 miles more, more than 2X. The Volt is rated 42 MPG on gas, the Prius Prime is rated 54 MPG. Don't know how well the Prius Prime does in real world driving but the Volt's ratings are conservative. I did a 250 mile round trip to Vermont on Saturday, I got 60 miles on the battery and 53 MPG on the gas (as calculated by the car, if you calculate it by the gas pumps measure it was 54 MPG).

Keep in mind that the electric range varies depending on temps, terrain such as hills, and your driving habits. In the dead of winter and if you floor the car to 75 mph/ 120 km/h, you won't get that advertised range. In warmer weather your range goes up unless you drive really fast all the time and blast the air conditioner. But if you take it easy on the accelerator, you can get more than the advertised 53 miles / 85 km of range. And if your workplace has charging stations, then you can easily stay in EV mode on your round trip commute.

You should always put the charging while working

You could charge it while working.

I have a Focus Electric and get 100 to 163 km range depending how I drive. The price is competitive and I think the interior is better than the Volt. You may want to consider that if you don't want to wait for the Bolt or Tesla M3.

See if you could get your workplace to install a charger or allow you to use an outside 120V outlet somewhere. Then you could make the trip in 100% EV mode.

Exactly, And the Prius & Tesla owners will claim their cars are better and say "American Cars are Vegas"... and other BS. Two interesting facts, American Cars have always out lasted the Japanese competition, and Toyota makes the worst car on the market for the environment, ie. the Toyota Century, with a V16 engine and single digit fuel economy, but fortunately most nations, including the US, have fuel economy standards that the Toyota Century can't pass...

The only reason any manufacturer actually cares about the environment or fuel economy is half because these days it sells and half because they're required to.

And the rest of us can benefit. When I first looked at Volts, they were relatively new and $45k. Within a few years, those same models were $15-$20k. Huge "depreciation" b/c of crappy car? Or lack of demand because of bad assumptions by consumers. Looks to me like the latter.

@Michael Anthony Either you jest or you're a Republican dunce.

I don't know, I think he's selling the Chimpanzee a little short... Probably a better choice in the long run. (No offense to Miss Mila Kunis!)

Oh, adding to that I knew I saw that fountain area before! Logan's Run yeah :D

they did....

Only the first generation. I have one. It's great. All my local driving is purely plug-in electric on the ACT's soon-to-be 100% renewable electricity.

I agree, lol at him ticking the box about long range... 85 km is shit

53 miles is plenty for an EV car their not designed to go cross country due to limitations in the battery technology. Those cars are made to put around the city in.

Ogreng Buddha the point is that it pales in comparison to the Model 3 (215/53 = 4 times further) and he ticks the box for long range... it's not long range, it's city range, everything else I have no problem with, but his bias is showing - particularly when he's already bought a volt and his dad is a former GM man.

+schr4nz Yeah, but you have the engine for anything longer than that - you'll still save most of the money you would spend on fuel but you have the flexibility of a 300 mile range.

schr4nz claims are claims til proven just cause they say it's so doesn't make it so you cant say what the car will do until it's actually made

I've been inside one, and it's absolutely tiny. Very impractical for anything but commuting.

And is also a lot more likely to kill you in an accident. And isn't electric. And is much more likely to fail. And comes with much more required maintenance. And doesn't have modern amenities like CarPlay support... Honestly they're not comparable at all.

yeah and its half the size and looks bad. Sorry, not at all the same.

***** have you even seen the design of the pruis

***** still way better looking than a car that looks like its crying of its own existence

My electric bill went up about $35-40 a month when I bought a 2014 Volt, and I have a 38 mile round trip work commute. So use that as a reference when you calculate how much you spend in gas a month to see if it would save you more money.

So back of the napkin calculations here . . . Of course Mr. T456 would have to run his own calculations. According to Google there are about 21.6 workdays in a month. 21.6 * 38 miles = 820.8 miles a month. Let's say a decent 30 mpg for a gas car. 820.8 miles / 30 mpg = 27.36 gallons a month. 27.36 gallons a month * $2/gallon = $54.72 of gas a month. In most cases, the electric bill ought to be lower than the cost of refueling.

+logicalfundy i like your math but no one is accounting for gas bouncing back as it is finally selling at 50$+ a barrel for the first time in years.

Frank Cantrelle Well, that's up from about $33 in January, although down from $64 from July of last year. This isn't the first time in one year in either direction, much less several. www.nasdaq.com/markets/crude-oil.aspx?timeframe=1y In any case, $2/gallon was an estimate, as gas prices fluctuate all the time. Last fill I had this month was $2.359/gal, although I filled for $1.959 once in April.

Wow. One forgets how cheap petrol(gas) is in the US! In Europe EVs are a factor of 5 or more cheaper to run than petrol/diesel cars. I guess most of the difference is that fuel is much more expensive. I'd still expect a bit more difference in the US, just because an EV uses about 25% as much energy per mile as an ICE car.

I hate to burst your bubble but: Electrics and Hybrids are not green or sustainable,or better for the enviroment contrary to what main steam media pushes. Here is why: A hybrid or electric takes the same car plant to build it,same refineries making aluminum or steel for it,copper,plastics etc. so nothing saved there,not to mention a load of electronics. Most charge electrics off the grid,which just transfers pollution to the coal,nuclear plants,nope nothing saved there either. So you might use solar for charging? Do you know how much it takes to refine silicon for solar cells? the glass,aluminum frames,plastic sheets etc take more energy to make the solar panels than the module will likely generate in its lifetime. Your hybrid still uses gas,tires and oil just like a regular fossil fuel car,all unsustainable and uses energy to recycle just like a regular car. The Lithium battery is not recycleable. Its a waste product when it goes bad. Also lithium is mined in many 3rd world countries by slave labor making almost nothing for wages. At the end of the day you saved nothing and added one more waste product to the stream(lithium) in addition to gas,tires oil,plastics,etc. Its simple math. There are many gas/diesel cars that get 45mph+ . Don't buy into the nonsense that gas/diesel is bad,its not,its a necessary thing of today. More food for thought,if EVERYONE went to electrics tomorrow,imagine them all trying to charge their car at 6pm when they all get home,sucking 5KW,10KW+ per house,it would literally pull the electric grid to its knees and cause massive blackouts. If you want a ev or hybrid,great,just say you do,just dont kid yourself on saving the enviroment.

@@a4000t Do you own alot of coal and gas stock ? lol !!

@@newton296 I own none of those stocks,but that is my point, the plant building these cars uses coal and nuclear power to make the car,and then people take them home and charge them with coal/nuke power(some hydro too) or charge at work,again from the grid supplied by coal/nuke etc,and then pretend they are helping the enviroment. realize i am not against electrics,but hybrids solve no environmental problems and add one more finite resource,lithium battery to their use. all i am saying is just call it what it is,it is NOT green or renewable.

+ProCreeper 2000 congrats, I'm getting a model 3 after watching bjorn nyland

This whole video was just a silly excuse of buying this parody of an electric vehicle.

Update: he actually has both still