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I sell Kias and I did just want to let you know that lane keep assist, front end collision avoidance, Apple CarPlay/ android auto, back-up camera, cross traffic alert are standard even in a manual transmission vehicle

Honda 1.5 t gdi engine is having oil dilution problem. Kia Forte's NA engine with port injection and chain driven cvt will be a lot more reliable in a long run.

I just bought one of these last week. I had an 06 vw gti that would suck the doors off a new honda civic, that I traded in. I had my first child last 18 months ago and needed something new that had great fuel mileage and great reliability, with a great warranty. I happen to work for Toyota, so I had it narrowed down to 3 companies. The kia offered some technology that Honda and Toyota didnt offer in this price point. I'm also getting way better fuel mileage, like upwards of 46 mpg for a 80 min trip.

It's got the largest trunk in the category. At 15.3 cubic feet it's larger than the Toyota Camry's.

Loved it, it's more of a conversation while showing how everything works, you get different perspectives on the car and its features.

You still get vented seats on the 21k EX. You also get standard 8inch screen with carplay and dual zone AC on the base manual Forte

Only a 5 year warranty in Canada. Damn, 10 year like the States would have been a deal sealer.

Great review, guys! I absolutely love my 2019 Forte! Kia has got it goin' on!

Unless I missed it you did not mention that it is only a torsion beam in the rear. A cost cutting measure that might be a deal breaker for those that were not already turned off by the CVT.

I like this type of review...y'all can pump on of these everyday 👍🏻

I’ll admit the CVT did a great job at simulating the shifts but I’m hoping the reliability holds up

Another great review guys! I liked the honest casual approach

Hey, I like the format and it was a good review. I wonder, however, if you can use a different video camera that has better detail and contrast. The video looks washed out, though the content was excellent and entertaining. Good work guys. *Honesty and simplicity are good things, not bad things.*

Keep up the real world reviews love em

Why complain about CVT's? You said it yourself, the tradeoff for good gas mileage is a lack of sportiness. These are commuter cars, they are aimed at being as fuel efficient as possible. If you want something sporty, then stay away from this class of car, it's that simple. I think Kia made one solid looking compact sedan here.

The Kia is thinking of your health by not taking you to Burger King.

I enjoyed it! Gives you guys a chance to say first impressions 👌

Loved the real world review, hope to see more

I have a cvt in my Altima with 115k on it, not a single problem. I didn't buy it for sportiness nor would I buy this car for sportiness.I'd buy for transportation and fuel economy.

Loved this style of reviewing

Loved the review guys, but I found that you guys missed one importnat thing, and that there was no mention of the back seats space. Otherwise, it was a really great review !! Kudos !!

Since 2012 I have driven exclusively either a 6spd manual (GTI) or a CVT (2 subies - Impreza and Outback). I sold my '16 Outback in May of this year and cruised thru summer sharing the Impreza. I tried diligently not to get into another subie, but the Outback was such a great value and Subaru offered such a fantastic lease that I committed to another 3 yr tour in a subie. After trying out alternatives w/ more traditional transmissions, I discovered (surprisingly) that I prefer the CVT for daily driving. I don't expect Subaru will outfit their vehicles w/ a dual clutch any decade soon. For a more driving engagement I will opt for a manual every time. TFL team - I haven't driven the manual in either the new Impreza or the Crosstrek. What was your impression? I despise squishy gear boxes.

Try pricing a Civic or Corolla with similar features, the KIA blows them away based on value. The "iVT" is chain driven as well, not a belt like Nissan or Toyota.

Loved the review.

Excellent format. Both of you make a great team to evaluate a vehicle. Bring on more of the same...... just to mention I am more interested in suv’s And crossovers.

Big Fan of the show for years. However I have a few questions. I am retired veteran and I was station in Europe for 3 years and I miss and loved sporty wagon. I have Audi A4 sport S Line wagon,2.0TDI. I was wondering if the Kia Forte 5. And will it also new and will there be engine option example 1.6 Turbo or 2.4. I drove Kia Forte 5 turbo and it was so fun and flashbacks of sport wagon.the forte 5 is almost basically Kia version of VW Golf and 1.6 isn’t GTI but much cheaper especially with Discounts 2018 Kia Forte 5 SX.

I'd expected some improvement with Forte's Chain-driven CVT vs others that uses a belt.

Use the command prompts listed on the radio display, and you'll have more success with the voice commands in UVO.

You said $26,220 is pretty expensive, actually it's a fair price because the same features will cost you between $28,500 or $29,500 in some competitors.

Hopefully they come back with the SX model and put the 1.6 turbo 4 in it.

I think for most buyers the CVT makes no difference. People who love driving would be much better served by a Mazda.

What? US$26K for the top spec 2.0L in the USA? Am pretty sure you can get a top spec Cerato (Forte) in OZ for around A$28K.

I'm an Aussie, but re the air vents, the Ford England was first with these (round omni directional) vents on the 1956 Ford UK Anglia, but fresh air only, not air conditioning as today.

I recently drove one - it moves along better than about any other CVT car I've driven (4 cylinder) ... I think they're good cars 👍

"Especially with a cvt". Is a cvt slower then a proper auto when the power from the engine is the same?

2020 Forte due out in June 2019 will have the upgrade to GT....201hp with a duel clutch transmission.

I drive a 2020 Forte LXS with the CVT and my experience has been this. The transmission while it is kinda rubbery as CVTs are, I think it’s okay. It does do a good job at “shifting” especially when you get on it. I think in this car, which I presume most people will buy to save on gas, the CVT makes sense. The engine is a little anemic, but the CVT does make good use of what power it does have. Mine is a low end model, but still has Apple CarPlay, lane keep, and forward collision avoidance, which a Dodge Charger rental I had didn’t even have. I think if you have a family, get something with a little more power, as 147 HP isn’t a lot (you buy the GT if you want more power.) But if it’s just you or you and your spouse, it’s perfectly fine. Overall, it’s a decent car and you can still have fun with its 147 HP. Maintenance will more than likely be pretty cheap.

I am going to test drive Kia Forte next week. Forte and Elantra really grew in size. Glad they went with 2.0 liter engine over the previous 1.8 liter engine, which allowed them to grow the vehicles. They have become viable option to me. I test drove Elantra 2018. Quite impressed with the refinement. Nothing really stood up in terms of disliking. I owned 2001 Elantra, and 2003 Corolla. I am not even considering Toyota this time. And I am wary of the price tag on Honda Civic. Mazda 3 is too small for me. Not many choices.

Amazing value quotient here. Hecho en Mexico is my big concern. I bought, unknown to me, a Sony TV and a Volkswagen made in Mexico. Both fell apart shortly after purchase.

I bought a base model Forte in April 2019. It has everything you need, and nothing you don't need. The car kicks butt on the highway, uphill, and is very smooth around town. This tall guy is a critic, so he finds silly things to complain about. I can honestly say there is nothing to complain about, except one thing. The inside windshield tends to accumulate a film that Windex will not take off. You have to buy a high-speed window cleaner to clean it. This has happened to me 3 times. The Kia dealer told me the Forte has a special oil filter so I would have to bring it to the dealer for an oil change.NOT. Valvoline can do the oil change with no fancy oil filter needed. I would recommend using a full synthetic oil 5w20. Definitely a buy!

Nice review. Nice car, but the '19 Jetta with its 8 speed AT gets the same mileage without a CVT and has a better warranty (6 yr.-72,000 mile bumper to bumper), more torque and a better head unit, IMO. You could improve the outdoor wind noise/sound with a 'dead cat' muffler on the microphone.

12:25..."they stitched plastic to plastic..I don't know how they did that..." They didn't do that. It's an injection molded dash that has just been stitched over to give that effect. Some other cars have this as well.

You have to say "navigation" then wait for it to go to the navi then ask it where you want to go

No passenger mic for voice commands

This guy likes complain about CVTs even when they drive like a "traditional" automatic like this one did. I head zero CVT drone on this during hard acceleration he still complains. The Civic has a CVT and 99% of sedan buyers do not want a manual transmission.

Kia's previous gen. of the Forte had a DCT. It is okay. The CTV? Not bothered by them. I am sure by the time I buy one the bugs will be out or something else will take its place. Mine is the hatch model. The Forte 5 . Like it better than the sedan. Turbo driven makes a difference.

In 2022 our 2019 Kia Rio began to bellow white smoke that reeked of gasoline. After a little research I found that it had a fuel pump mounted to the valve train. Took car to dealer, and dealer said that warrenty was exceeded by mileage, and part not part of drive train, and not covered by drivetrain warrenty. New pump was going to be $1200.00 installed, and part backorder was going to be five weeks minimum. I asked if spun bearings due to gasoline in crankcase, and burning car were covered under drive train warrenty, and they hung up on me. Called corporate and they advised part was covered under drivetrain warrenty because contract is in owners manual which has no fine print whatsoever. For the sake of expediency I bought brand new pump from another manufacturer, for $150.00 which arrived in three days, and then spent ten minutes replacing pump. It has run fine until recently when Rio was stolen, and severely damaged when run over a curb whicvh broke engine from transmission plus window broken, column trashed, and wipers broken off because thief accidentally started wipers when breaking column to steal. Kia denied ever hearing of theft problem. Kia wqanted two hours troubleshooting to give estimate for repair. I said I already know what is wrong with car so just fix it. Then Kia at insisted we prepay repair bill before work began. I asked how they could possibly know what was wrong with car ahead of time, and that must be a new thiung where dealer wont fix car unless you prepay. Told wife to leave car at Kia dealer. Kia said they would have it towed away for being parked illegally. I called corporate who has brand new stolen Kia runaround line dedicated to irritating customers who have had their Kias stolen already, and they hung up on me. I called the Bureau of automotive repair filed complaint then they had me call the federal trade comission where I also filed complaint. Since my wife is Thai I called a local Los Angelus Thai language newspaper to see if they would do a survey of their Thai community who owned Kia cars, and they agreed (my wife knows the owner of the paper). Accidentally recieved phone call from Kia corporate in which they accidentally gave me a direct line right back to the woman who hung up on me. I called, and informed her of my actiopns. She said the whole thing is a misunderstanding on their part if I already had the insurance check in my hand, and NOW the dealership WOULD look at theft damaged car but my wife had to go in and sign a permission slip. Keep in mind Kia is required by a class action lawsuit to repair these cars, and pay all related expenses. My insurance company shouild not have to pay anything to anyone as Kia has been found responsible for fasiling to protect these cars from theft properly. My wife is making monthly payments on this car, and it has been damaged, and undriveable for three months as I write this causing us to buy another car. Considered renting one and backcharging Kia, but I am not an ass looking to make the reimbursement as expensive as possible for Kia, I just want them to fix it. They are dragging their feet at the customers expense, and are downright rude about it once you get them to stop lying. I have purchased two new Kia products lifetime, and will NEVER EVER buy another

How do they make so little power out of a 2.0L?

I think the car looks great. I will definitely shop it. My preference would be the base model manual for price. but I don't think they would be easily found. If I can get a more powerful Toyota Corolla for a similar price I would probably do that. Also if I could get a great deal on a lager car with an 8 speed I would probably do that. One main feature for me is trying to avoid direct injection only cars . I will sacrifice power and fuel economy to avoid direct injection only.

Great way to do simple reviews in “one take”. Perfect for when you are planning a more in-depth review or something like this with only limited interest. Oh yeah, boo cvts!

The only problem with it was that you guys didn't go into detail and the camera angles were awkward

Hopefully KIA makes a turbo version with the 8spd.

Normally aspirated?

I really like this presentation style. Please, do more. Roman and Tommy, are you father and son?

I left the dealership with a 2018 6bspeed.CVT are terrible..The car looks better better proportioned..The 2018 lx has tiny wheels and it looks extended too much, but I hate CVT

They have already released the Forte GT here in Korea. It looks wicked! It also addressed most of the concerns people seem to have with the regular car. It's got the 1.6 T and the DCT along with an independent rear suspension. www.kia.com/kr/vehicles/k3-gt/features.html You can see it here.

I like this style of review! Please take the format to TFL truck.

I had a 2010 SX with 173 horsepower, and as of now, a 2015 with 173 horsepower. These little cars move quite well and are trouble free, it's why I buy them... But I don't like the idea of a CVT transmission. I may upgrade to an Optima, but this could be where Kia loses me a customer. 147 horsepower and a CVT? No thanks.

New cars have all become so pricy- $26K. A lot of people would rather have good mpg (>= 40mpg) Since gas in Bay Area (CA) is also expensive.

I think if you don't really need every single available bell and whistle (and perhaps consider a smaller size tire/alloy wheel combination), you could probably purchase a still decently equipped version of this vehicle at a much less expensive price point, especially when rebates and other incentives get factored in.

Thanks Roman...I hope Santa brings you a Mike muff.

Nice

I think the phrase is “directions to” because who says “navigate us to” 😂🤣

Smart young man.

Test the BASE Model with the MANUAL transmission !

Honda baised review . Civic have CVT you know and it is worse than this one.

I really like the GT model of this car

Again folks out there, as i stated before. i hate cvts my damn self so that being said, kia is putting out a 1.6 litre turbo 201 hp/195 lb ft torque 6 speed manual and 7speed dct auto in the upcoming forte GT. and if i were you, i will definitely wait for it.

The interior would look so much better if the pillars and roof were black.

nice great show

My call would be..... Lease for a first time buyer, as we made the decision to do for my little sister.

Great review. And yes, thanks to Peter & company, Kia cars are very good-looking inside and out. But I disagree with Tommy; they had a decent transmission in the previous generation. Swapping it out for a CVT (like Chevy did for the Malibu) was definitely a step in the wrong direction! And it proves that just because everyone else is doing it, doesn't necessarily mean that you should! 🐇

Don’t surprise me that this car is made in Mexico. So many cars are being made there like Ford Fusion, Volkswagen Jetta, Chevy Silverado and now Kia

Hes right ,I dont like cvts either..

Bought a 2021 EX in that same color with less than 8K miles on Carvana. It'll be here in a few days. If I don't like it or can't fit well in it I can send it back for a 100% refund. Have a week to decide. That's about the best test drive there is. Only thing is it keeps your money tied up for a couple weeks.

hope it isn't like so-called intelligent awd

Comment below which non-luxury manufacturer has the coolest DRLs? My top pick: Nissan

Like it

People are so confused with the purposes of cars. If you want a sport car, then go buy the sport car. If you want a luxury car, then go buy the luxury car. If you want a family car, then go buy the family car. Don't expect this line of cars to be performed as a luxury and sport cars. The design, the stuffs they put inside of 2019 Kia Forte including in base model and the price are hard to ignore and way far better than civic and Corolla. As for iVT, it is a new thing that Kia put together in a better way but so far it is effectively working. Time will tell how it will hold up. Civic and Corolla are like grandma of Kia and Hyundai. I don't see them growing rapidly like Kia and Hyundai. In this segment(2019), Civic and Corolla might have a hard time to outsell Kia Forte for sure.

Not butterfly wings; dragonfly wings. You have to speak korean to it, lol. The law of cars: The higher the fuel economy the lower the fun. That's quite a price jump from 18k to 26k for the LXS. 18k must be just to get people to the dealer, then they work their magic on them.

the chevy cruze has 153 hp

All these normal cars coming out with launch edition like this and the Altima... They’re not super cars.

Reminds me of a cla

CVT transmissions are just a bad idea.

Get one with a chain not the belt

I agree with Tommy - buy it!

Funny Roman complains about CVT's and then says the Civic is his choice here. Hello?! CVT!!! At least the Kia has a chain driven CVT instead of a belt. Smoother and likely more reliable than the belt driven ones.

CVT 😕 sigh...

7yr warranty in Australia

I still don't understand why you guys rave about this technology on the highest trims of all your test vehicles when it comes standard on almost every Toyota and some hondas.

Me likey

People need to stop bashing on CVTs. They aren't bad compared to CVTs 5-10 years ago. Highway cruising and climbing on incline on road seems to be better than some stepped automatics.

CVT is cheap cheese, ok in econo super mini cars by Tata motors sold for 8K usd new. It does not belong in modern and respected cars

Fake shifts, are just the worst. It's a horrible dumbing-down. That'll make a lovely rental fleet vehicle.

Forget it. It’s not a special car in an overly saturated segment.

KIA CVT ARE JUNK!!!! Have a 2019 kia forte and at 10,000 miles my cvt transmission is going out!!! Called dealership to ask if they have had problems with the transmission and the guy says oh yeah just got done replacing one on a car that only had 2100 miles. So he tells me to bring it on in and start the process of sending in all the information to kia for approval of a new transmission.

Baby Stinger

0-60 could have been a lot faster if you guys didn't weigh 800lbs combined. 😋😁

so unfilters just means Bad audio an poor lighting film wise.. boring.