2020 Best Dual Boiler Espresso Machine Sub $2000: Lelit Elizabeth

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Learn from Java Jim about the best, sub $2000 espresso machine!
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@JoseCarlosBabo 3 жыл бұрын

Happy Times. Just bought mine Wednesday. Waiting for its arrival in Portugal.

@glennover6046 2 жыл бұрын

May I ask where you bought it? I just moved to The Algarve and this machine has definitely piqued my interest.

@ghislaincarrier 3 жыл бұрын

Just saw the video. I'm glad this is the machine I bought. BTW, what changed is the machine on the right was turned on at the start of the video and at the end it's the machine on left that was turned on.

@michalkornas2465 3 жыл бұрын

By the way the thing is change/improved - is the quiet x-pump from mara x inside :) is really quiet

@juanescobar2216 3 жыл бұрын

Change on set - there's a spring on the counter that is no longer there at the end. Besides that, at the beginning the machine on the right is on and and the end the machine on the right is on. But 'planted' would be the spring.

@ichervon85 3 жыл бұрын

These improvements might not seem much, but are sooooo cool)) I've owned the previous version (I guess)) for almost a year now. The no-water-shutoff-during-the-shot rule and the fact that it holds the time for a while afterwards would be soooo nice to have)) Not critical, of course, but niiiicceeee)))) Didn't quite get the piece about blooming, what does it change? All in all I agree, considering owner knows his stuff about coffee - espressos and cappuccinos are terribly-terribly delicious ))

@orrinbelcher6593 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video fun and informative thank you

@russharris8964 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Jim I have an NS Oscar that works fine. Is it worth it to change to the Elizabeth?

@eyalgold1 3 жыл бұрын

I have lelit pl042 temd, is the steam rod in the Elizabeth better?

@patrik2294 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Jim, I like the videos you make and Im thinking of buying a Lelit Elisabeth. One video you made shows the inside. I reacted on that there are only plastic tubings. I would have expected copper tubing on high pressure areas. Whats your view on the plastic tubing for longevity? Thanks!

@gosman949 Жыл бұрын

no response from Java Jim!

@nocnymarek7645 3 жыл бұрын

Is there "restore to factory settings" button ;) ?

@joshuapoore7212 3 жыл бұрын

What about the ACS Minima?

@katabrontes 2 жыл бұрын

The spring on the counter is missing at the end.

@brenster21 3 жыл бұрын

That is the machine I dream of.

@fikofikret1522 3 жыл бұрын

Mee too, so how can we let our dreams become real?

@gosman949 Жыл бұрын

@@fikofikret1522 by buying it of course!

@AnotherAnonymousMan Жыл бұрын

The newest version can do variable "bloom" preinfusion without steam. 👍

@gosman949 Жыл бұрын

what the .... does that mean?

@RyanGazling 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! I pulled the trigger on an Elizabeth after watching this video. -Spot the difference - The first set had a small hairspring thing on the table's left; far side of the Lelit?.. 🤔

@1st-lineequipment 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice!

@nocnymarek7645 2 жыл бұрын

Is steam comes through coffee cake it is not typical orthodox espresso but kind of mix espresso and mokka style.

@1983Jacko 3 жыл бұрын

Terribly delicious? Never heard it put like that.

@johnlambert6403 3 жыл бұрын

Can the lower LCD display actual boiler temps instead of the target temp? Much more useful if it can.

@1st-lineequipment 3 жыл бұрын

Last week we checked, the actual temp shows on the LCC.

@michalkornas2465 3 жыл бұрын

Hey There Java Jim - I’m actually in the last stage of buying a machine - i got last Day of black week so i have to make my choice today - i can het this machine for good money i europe but i got lelit mara X for about 150$ less. Generally i make 1, Max. 2 Milk based coffee in the morning, in the afternoon maybe 3,4 espressi . Maybe 1,2 weekend in the Month gonna get visit from friends so i can maybe do few coffee’s in a row - i dont care about looks ( i think mara looks better) or e61 so much, what im more interested is which supose to last longer? Be more Solid? Hx or dual boiler ? The same question about maintenance ? What its your opinion about it because i think already couple days and i can get out this dillema.

@fikofikret1522 3 жыл бұрын

What did you decide?

@AzizIzgin 3 жыл бұрын

What did you get?

@ggivensjr 3 жыл бұрын

What is purpose of turning off the steam boiler why is it called econo mode? If you suggest not adjusting the kpc, kic blah, blah why are they accessible? What is blooming? With steam boiler off can pre-infusion come from the brew boiler?

@AzizIzgin 3 жыл бұрын

You turn it off to save energy if you only drink espressos. Regarding pre infusion you should check out Dave Corbys review on that , he goes through what they mean, I don’t think you can use pre infusion without the steam boiler since it uses the pressure of the steam to soak the coffee. Blooming is another method of pre infusion. The Kpc settings I think he also have covered in his review or another guy in Singapore... just search Elizabeth vs Mara x and you will see it on top I think.

@ggivensjr 3 жыл бұрын

@@AzizIzgin I know what pre-infusion is and blooming sounds like just another way of saying pre-infusion. Like in pour-over and French press. I wish Lelit would give better explanation of effects of turning off steam boiler. For example when you turn it off does it automatically drain or does water just set in boiler or do you have to run steamer to empty it? I wish videos would show how reservoir is removed. That can be a negative because I don't want to be dragging a machine across our counters every time I have to add water. That's probably why it's not mentioned. And yes you can still do pre-infusion with steam boiler off. It just comes from brew boiler instead.

@AzizIzgin 3 жыл бұрын

@@ggivensjr very good points. Although when turning off the steam boiler I would guess that water is left in boiler since the machine uses water from both boilers for the water spout and in one of the reviews of corby he showed that it could be done when steam boiler was off. Personally I am still confused of which to pick. I am stuck with if I can live with startup time of Mara and the deeper size🙄😅. On the other hand I am trying also to like the design more of Elizabeth so I’d want to buy it🤣.

@AzizIzgin 3 жыл бұрын

@@ggivensjr one more thing that I don’t understand is the power consumption between them. In total Elizabeth is using 2300w and Mara 1300w. I am no electric guy but what does this mean in real life? Say that Mara needs a longer warmup time and Elizabeth when already warm how much power does it use when not “in action “?

@ggivensjr 3 жыл бұрын

@@AzizIzgin I am same as you. I like traditional look of the E61 grouphead and the no frills traditional beauty of the MaraX but the sizes turn me away from both. For that reason I am back to either Victoria or Elizabeth. The issue between the latter two is deciding on if I really need to spend extra $600 on a dual boiler. I have done without double boiler for 8 years now and haven't felt the need to have steaming and brewing simultaneously. Not to put you on the spot but I like your thinking. So what do you think, Victoria or Elizabeth? 🤔

@planetetrangere 3 жыл бұрын

I you had about 1300$ usd to put on an espresso machine, which one would you buy?

@1st-lineequipment 3 жыл бұрын

Ahh, so many good choices! A lot of factors go into a decision, such as types of drinks you are looking to make (like mostly espresso or mostly milk-based, for instance) volume of these drinks (how many at a time), and whether you want more automatic features or more manual features! For $1300 or less, you would be able to get a variety of single boiler machines or super-automatic espresso machines.

@planetetrangere 3 жыл бұрын

@@1st-lineequipment I want to make latte art most everyday. 2 to 3 everyday and a few espresso everyday.

@danieli.3250 3 жыл бұрын

In first set is the right machine on and de left off. In the next set is the left machine on and the right off.

@VolvoLaplanderCamper 3 жыл бұрын

Why stupid music in background?

@nocnymarek7645 3 жыл бұрын

Did you compare it with Lelit Bianca and Profitec 600/700? Generally extract from E61 is more sweet and more body.

@wakeawaken430 3 жыл бұрын

Not true, nothing to do with the design The design is the vehicle, not the destination

@nocnymarek7645 3 жыл бұрын

@@wakeawaken430 E61 is not design only but different concept regarding water and heat distribution. By the way - you have different experience of trip depends on vehicle. Right?

@wakeawaken430 3 жыл бұрын

@@nocnymarek7645 For the experience yes, but the sweetness and the body texture is a fact of many things

@brenster21 3 жыл бұрын

Hey java Jim now I am just a random KZfaqr so my comments may be just worth a few cents. Have you considered doing some review comparisons between the lelit machines against the competition of machines including the ones you don't carry. So comparing the Glenda with the rancilio Silvia and gaggia (which I know you don't carry though you could easily acquire for a day). To help highlight how great the machines are. Now I mention this since I know you work with the espresso community and have provided machines in the past to do community reviews such as during the lever reviews on home barista. Personally I think it would be a great way to raise lelits profile with new espresso drinkers. Since lelit is still rather unknown compared to rancilio or gaggia. Now I do want to say I love your company and your videos and if you think this comment is determental to feel free to delete it.

@1st-lineequipment 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for you feedback and suggestion. I am trying to move in that direction, but my straightforwardness may upset certain manufacturers.

@trevorwesterdahl6245 3 жыл бұрын

You demoed a machine with obvious damage.

@trevorwesterdahl6245 3 жыл бұрын

Most machines, you don't press buttons to see the pressures. Not seeing anything that makes this machine worth the money. This looks like a fancy machine, but really is meant for those that want to push buttons rather than know what they are doing.

@francescosalanitri6769 3 жыл бұрын

Where is this ‘obvious damage’? The machine works just fine

@tybaltmercutio 2 жыл бұрын

@@trevorwesterdahl6245 What a load of non-sense …

@trevorwesterdahl6245 2 жыл бұрын

@@tybaltmercutio Basically, my comment was about the pressing twice for alternate display not really working, Looked broken to me. Frankly, because they chose such cheap controls (a tiny display), its an absolute pain to change settings and in no way is designed well. Plenty of machines in this price range that are far easy and more intuitive to use. Feel free to disagree, but my comment is really: "Not impressed."

@Soulslider70 19 сағат бұрын

@@trevorwesterdahl6245 What machines?