Haha yet another mountain biker who like cars and RC

maybe do the slash

I agree, Sounds similar to mine now. Mine has been completely upgraded as well nothing is stock. Mine has a fox 36 140mm performance with oil slick chrome decals , fox factory Dpx 2 with the piggy back, full XT drive train with race face crank arms, 4 piston Deore brakes front and rear, Hunt trail wide wheels with 72 points of engagement, Oneup carbon bar, crank bros 150mm dropper, Ergon oil silk saddle and grips, and Maxxis tires DHF 2.5 and Ardent 2.4 in the rear, race face turbine stem and PNW pedals both raw aluminum. Bike is an absolute weapon now.

Hey I’m thinking about getting this bike on sale and doing the same upgrades. Can I handle really techy climbs and down hills ? I want an AL bike as it is going to get scratched.

@@cberg9480 the bike works very well for me, I like tech riding, I have found nothing i can not do on it, is it a DH bike no but it feels very good on a decent

Congrats, great bike!

where did you find one? I am having hard time to find it :(

Sweet, keep on having fun!

What did you upgrade?

@@MrVinman711 longer travel forks, brakes, Eagle drive train, grips, saddle, Maxxis tires, and last but not least..... my handlebar mounted downhill bell so people can avoid me like the plague when I toss myself down the side of a mountain.

@@stevenwanko2714How did you upgrade the brakes and to which ones? I would want to do that eventually

100% agree. Pretty amazing what a bike is/can do today.

I definitely know what you mean. Someone donated a rockhopper (really old one, 90s maybe) to me and I got hooked on riding mtb. Decided to upgrade to a 2020 trek and it was night and day, even 3rd world country. I have no idea how ppl use to mtb on the old stuff.

I'm still riding a 1997 Specialized Ground Control and getting ready to upgrade after getting back in the woods. New bikes I've tried out are such fun to ride with out getting tossed around.

@Silver Back the bike itself works fine no issues at all. The tires it came with are 2.6’s which is a bit aggressive for the XC type trails i ride so I’m in the process of going to a tubeless setup with Vittoria mezcal 2.35s.

Ooh, I got to try that. Thanks for the idea.

Hey man what did you upgrade? I just bought one and plan on doing the same but don't know what to do

@@timhenderson9794Tires are good to go tubeless and also grips and pedals

Dual sport 4 is a great bike, have fun with it!

Trek has always had those eye catching paintjobs, thats how i fell in love with the brand

@@maxstellinga4509 Exactly same for me

Good choice!

At what price did you get it ?

I also have the specialized Butchers!!

@@1995suhaib what size is ur tire?

@@1995suhaib mine was 85 a tire but I have 27.5

Great choice but be prepared to wait...

Where are you located and what was your wait time ? I ordered and paid for mine August 2019....Still not here....they told me December now....im pissed....Oh and I'm in Canada

@@fatbikedaddy8644 5 month wair

Theres also a blue and black version and it looks sooo much better

Do my best, hopefully these are useful videos for you!

So true. My only bummer is the "Comp" level tires. Everything else is killer for the price of this bike. Not to mention the frame is a worthy one to upgrade with over time.

@@Jamesthebikeguy I have used XR4 Team issue tires for 2 years now and never had a flat. Can be bit sketchy with slides here and there but fast rolling and solid tire. Rode XR2 Comp before and it is just XC tire but had 2 flats in a week. Felt durability and flat resistance wasn't good.

@@Jamesthebikeguy its a lovely frame but for the money its not a killer build. Look what u get for the same price by canyon. A fox rhytm fork, fox dps damper, Slx dirvetrain with xt derailer and slx brakes. For the same price

@@dvxShoeN which bike would that be?

Awesome

Cool, enjoy!

where did you find one? I am having hard time to find it :(

Enjoy it

Isn’t fuel ex 5 full suspension?

@@sassysteve6700 yea, I mean go level up because of the better shock that comes with the bike. Same bike different components I believe, anyways ended up not pulling the trigger on the trail bike just yet. I’ll put another year into my Rasco 7

Thanks for watching!

HAHAHA 4 reflectors

Thanks for watching

Thats where you gotta pre-order. 4mo today, but it will be 4mo in 4mo because everythign will have been pre-sold

Right on!

I think I did a bit, but look at any of my ride videos on the EX7

Ha, wish! Sweet bike though

As a 2020 EX7 owner I have a couple of thoughts for you. 1st - the creaking is not from the BB, it is a known issue with the main pivot bolt, checkout my video on how to fix it in less than 30min: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gMCEp6Z1ysDKl2w.html 2nd - the Knock Block "doesnt do anything" because it is preventing damage. If it wasn't there that is when "something" would happen. 3rd - Dropper post toggle is relativly normal. A few degrees each way is standard. Anymore then you might want to take advantage of the warranty that comes with your bike. 4th - Have fun and pedal on!

@@Jamesthebikeguy Thanks. I saw the video and will be doing the same process. Bike shop told me £200 to do this lol

My main pivot bolt as well just remove it and get some grease on the “c” shaped nut. Never Creek again. The Fuel ex 5 is a great bike.

Are you certainly it’s the BB? Could be the front shock needs proper adjustment.

I had it for a year and took it downhill mtb on Diamond trails with tech and it handled it perfect

Agreed!

@@Jamesthebikeguy now..... The getting one is the problem 🤣🤣🤣

@@chickensendies tell me about it. Was looking at a commencal meta there's none until October. Almost worth waiting for next year's stock

@@George-je1fs Yep... I was at a local bike shop and the eta on bikes is still just crazy!!!

The best

@@Jamesthebikeguy Great review! I was looking for an entry-level full suspension bike. After visiting a few bike shops & watching some reviews, I decided to buy this bike at the local Trek store. I really like how the color pops! It’s like the Caterpillar version of bikes. When placing the order, since I’m a small frame, they gave me the option of 27.5” or 29” wheels. I ended up buying the bigger wheels but what baffled me was the ETA. The bike with 29” wheels had the earliest ETA around January 2022. But the 27.5” had a longer ETA, by August 2022! I never imagined the wheel size could make such a big difference in delivery time! 😳

@@sergiodjf what is your height bro?

Good call out.

Any time!

Ya, the specs aren't great for the price, I was looking at a giant, but I ended up going with a norco fluid fs 1, and I got the bike shop to take some $$$ of the price tag because I had to drive quite a way to pick it up. It's the only bike in this price range with a rockshox pike, plus it has 4 pot brakes and an xt derailleur with a slx shifter and cassette. I do like the adjustable geo on the trek though

@@clmfilms8103 any suggestions on what bike I should go for

@@carbone141 what's your price range and what's in stock at your local bike shop? I always recommend buying at your local bike shop instead of online because most bike shops will give you some free tune ups and other perks. The bike shop where I bought my norco gives free tune ups for a year (let's say you go for 5 tune ups in a year, that saves you close to $500), they also give you a free lesson on bike maintenance taught by their professional mechanics, and they give 15% of on bike accessories on the day that you buy your bike and they even claim that they will even give you free brownies if they have any left and you ask nicely:D .I would go around to your local bike shops and see what brands they carry in your price range and start there

@@clmfilms8103 alright cheers thanks for your help really appreciate it

@@carbone141 did you decide yet?

Not quite good at climbing, it is quite heavy and the easiest gear could be a bit lighter, even with 30T

Sick. Enjoy!

Yes and yes. Thanks for watching!

You sure about that?

Why thank you.

Get it!

Tough call since both are great bikes.

Me too. what did you get and if you would would you reconsider? currently I'm looking at this bike Trek fuel EX 5, 29er and the Trance 2, 29er that comes with the Fox set-up. and NX eagle drive train

@@janventer9413 I think I'm gonna go for the Trance 27.5 aluminum in M size . The reason why I haven't purchased the bike yet is because I hate that black matte they painted the bike in and since it is on layaway , the store allows me to wait until the 2022 colors come in .... so I keep beating my old Ironhorse 3.1 Warrior which is completely built until the call me from the store , and of course , making the monthly payments .

@@armandojuan64 thank you very much for the feedback! I unfortunately couldn't buy the giant trance but then a specialized stumpjumper came my way with fox 36 extra volume fork and extra volume Fox float rear suspension also fitted Magura brakes. So I'm very happy

I have the ex8 and no, it's too long to loop out. For a heavy full suspension bike it climbs very well. I do employ the compression damper on the rear shock for any steep climbing, which seems to have the effect of raising the rear end a bit as the damper resists bobbing from pedaling forces.

Depends how big, I Believe chain ring capacity goes up to 38 teeth. What makes you want a larger chainring?

@@Jamesthebikeguy more top end speed

I'm guessing you are looking at the wrong bike then

@@Jamesthebikeguy well it would be nice to have the lows and highs ... i dunno

That is rebound adjustment

Yes you can.

Sick!

I don't understand

Wheels and cockpit parts

2350 now in 2022

Both are good bikes. You should ride them and see what you like better

@@Jamesthebikeguy I did lol super turn between them

Yes it is nice to ride uphill with the Fuel Ex. I think it's the perfect bike to combine XC and sort of Enduro riding. As it has 140/130mm of travel it's easy to ride uphill and you also have lots of fun riding back down. So if you want a good bike to ride uphill with then i would definately recommend you the Fuel Ex. Got my 9.8 2 months ago and could not be more happy (My english is not that good as i am from Switzerland. Sorry)

Yes it does tires are just too big go with TR XC Tires say 2.3 or so and it will go fast.

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Yes they do

Unlikely, they are wire-bead. Those rarely setup tubeless, and never stay seated. Wire bead tires rely on the tube to press the tire bead into the wheel's hook.

@@Jamesthebikeguy I hope that Trek realizes the error of their ways.

Well would you pay $100 more for the bike with tubeless? This will sell mostly to novice/intermediate riders who might not initially go tubeless. If they do they can always upgrade. Saves everyone from paying the $100 up front and keep the bike Price competitive

@@Jamesthebikeguy however, since they're using house-brand tires, I doubt that it would be that great a haircut for Trek to eat the cost.

Foam lining

Thanks mate , do you have a vid showing how to ? I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed .

You can throw a bomber on it.

The shock dimensions

Bro.. Ordered my Fuel Ex 5 M/L frame last August...it's still not here...I was told it's coming in December....Trek hasn't said when they are releasing the 2022's yet.... I'm located in Canada...where are you ?

lol😂 carbon is 9.Whatever.. anything else ex 5,7,8, are alloy. That’s all you need to know.

@@joshuaallswang8016 so why 9.5, 9.7 and 9.8? What do these numbers tell to a beginner/intermediate rider?

@@alexandrucovaliov8989 they literally mean nothing special bro, just treks way of describing carbon, doesn’t make sense to me either.

Who knows why, but that's a sweet upgrade yours came with. Spec sheet calls for Comp level. Nice win!

@@Jamesthebikeguy exactly, that's a sweet upgrade, can't complain! ;) Cheers

Same frame. Upgrade to 12speed instead of the older 10speed. Full shimano drivetrain opposed to last year's shimano/sunrace/raceface mix.

@@Jamesthebikeguy thank you!

Yeah, buy a XL

The one that inspires you to ride the most

The stumpy generally has a better build for a better price, I’ve also also thought the fuel ex feels heavy to ride around where as my friends stumpy feels alive, try to ride both if you can find them anywhere, cheers.

If I had acess to Norco, I would.

@@Jamesthebikeguy ok I have this bike and I considered to buy the rockhopper elite but it was much better except for the fork but the fork is fine on the norco so I bought it mudch lower price than rockhopper

I am 5'8 w/ 30" inseam when I buy pants. Owning both the MD and the M/L I prefer the M/L. No way you want a small, and only a medium if you prefer something a bit more playful. If you favor reach and stability the M/L is the ticket.

@@Jamesthebikeguy thanks bro

Can't go wrong either way.

@@Jamesthebikeguy haha, agreed thanks for the reply. I'm 14 and i wanted to get started in mtb

@@arnav7093 14 and looking at a 2.5k bike? Lol I wish I ran a business or had rich parents at 14

2014 is the year I began doing these videos

Pre-order one from your LBS so it can arrive.

Watch until the end, and you will see.

Check with your local bike shop.

Safety first!

That is significant!

At that price on a FS, it’s not bad.

@@orriechaffin2850 there's essentially no cost difference in making the tubes 2cm longer. It's just out of touch with how droppers are used.

@kintamaHD I am afraid you are missing the supply chain cost. Trek knows what they are doing, and in fact, higher-end versions of this bike come with different-sized droppers correlating with frame size, so you get the most drop possible. Here is a very likely reason they do not do so on the lowest-end version of the bike. When building these bikes, you have almost 100 unique parts, and changing to where you have multiple dropper lengths intensifies both the SKU management and the JIT management. Usually, a part like this is much less expensive to produce in just one size. That reduces production cost and inventory cost. The moment you add multiple SKUs, the JIT management gets much more complex, leading to delays and reduced capacity. This change would result in likely a $20-30 production cost, and a $50-75 customer landed cost. So to get a seat post on an M/L that has a 150mm drop would make the bike cost $75 more since you can't run a 150mm dropper on every bike. At this price point, these bikes are ultra-competitive and super high volume sellers. It would be foolish of Trek to add $75 to the MSRP on the bike with little to no perceivable change for the customer. That is the kind of thing that you usually see on higher-end bikes where the price elasticity allows for a product manager to make minor incremental tweaks that only some will appreciate.

@@Jamesthebikeguy makes perfect sense

@@Jamesthebikeguy damn. I just got served. Can you explain why 30$ increase in price makes it 75$ more costly?

Haha yeah it actually does. 5mm at the crank is actualy fairly substantial. Headtubes from the slackest to the steepest on mountain bikes are about a 7 degree spread. So .5 is a fair increment

Black and orange are trademarked? Pretty common color scheme across tons of industries

Pretty much any other bike in this price range has better specs