They are absolutely garbage cars

@@YungEagle3k the camaro is yes

@@StanMarshimportskillUSjunk it's a gm. But the infins are just trash cars especially with mileage. People who over hype them clearly don't work on cars

@@YungEagle3k Infiniti and Nissan are great cars. Gm is trash

@@StanMarshimportskillUSjunk as a mechanic and someone who has owned both, the GM drive train is far superior. Nissan was one of the best built automobiles in the 80s and 90s. They have transmissions going out under 60k miles. The GM Ls/Lt are one of the best platforms ever built.

I noticed in the 2nd dig race the Q looked like a rough ride on launch

@DM Master Designs Just gonna be honest, Camaro is cool but features are just not enough. I own a Camaro LT1

@@eskzdl1961 like what features? Im looking to buy a camaro, soon not sure which model tho.

Mustang faster

@@roboticvenom1935 the Rustang is junk

I’d like to see the Mustang and Camaro done here. I respect both.

@@White_Snake69 Sour grapes.

Both car are pretty well respected for the power they both have. For having less Hp n torque and being heavier the q60 did well. If the Camaro can’t win this race against the underdog then Chevy should be ashamed.

3650 for the LT1 with an auto and a sunroof

@@Ishliss2012 how about without a sunroof ??

@@shelbyhaiketic4212 it’s probably right around 3600.

Base LT1 with a manual is one of the lightest V8 cars in modern times. And in my opinion is how a daily driven camaro should be bought. 😅

@@Ishliss2012 my 1ss 16' Camero ss weighed 3600 flat at the track.

Yeah those skinny wheels are absolutely pathetic, what are they thinking with that much power going tom the wheels?

I think the car needs a retune after the tire swap too

but for the price really what do u expect. $35k!! for a 455hp beast. 245 is very small tho especially for a performance car. my 05 trailblazer comes stock with 275 rears😂😂

my 1LE has 305 rear tires and still hard to put down on a dig!

funny that my 19 civic type R comes factory with 245/30/20's

In the real world you would not drag race on wvery red light so you would benefit from more power almost every time for a daily driving...

@@kyoakland You can tune the Camaro as well so...

On the highway where most race happens the camaro would absolutely destroy the q60..who cares srsly.Keep it safe and at the track.

@@jpizel1070 Within the limits of being an NA engine, yes.

Everyone forgets to mention the Camaro would destroy the q on the Twisties.

RWD on AVERAGE STREET TIRES.

@@ronaldjoseph9607 yea which is why it had to catch up ….. but it’s no surprise that the car should have the upper hand in this race.

Tune that Q60 yea no problem keeping up with Camaro

@@balmainattitude because it has basic street tires.

@@layne4376 big price difference between a tune and a supercharger. Plus the q60 is a luxury car. Not apples to apples. I guess we will have to wait for the new Z vs the Camaro to have a good comparison

The car had absolutely no potential. You wanna know why? It had a crappy transmission that made it a terrible platform. The car underperforms its german rivals. Also they arent discounting the q50 just the q60 coupe. The Q50 will still be sold.

LT1 has skinny all season tires. Needs to go up against at least an SS with 275mm summer tires. Or an SS 1LE A10 with 305mm summers. But... U race with what u got. And launching these 400+HP cars is always going to be a challenge. Roll racing tells a better story, and taking n00b drivers out of the picture. Assuming they actually start with in gear, versus kicking down.

@@jamesmin2837 Or you can just swap out those skinny 245s for a wider size on the LT1.

@@dvelazquez24dv Yes but then it is no longer really a stock vs stock race at that point.

The Giulia's ZF8 transmission is better than the LT1s 10speed automatic.

@@jamesmin2837 I get what you mean, but it's only fair against awd. Better tires are needed to hook properly and it's not like they had hp anyways. It's still a stock vehicle.

300+ weight difference. I weighed my awd Q60 at a weigh station and it was 4106 lbs without me in it.

The fact is that its still slower. Thats the ultimate fact.

@@danielr3933 yes but they are in two different classes of cars anyway

Vr30 isn't a new platform... built off the vr38 from the r35 gtr... Just smaller variant. The Camaro has an LT1 engine, Not an LS engine. I own both a q50 3.0t awd and a camaro 2ss :D Both great vehicles! Camaro feels more of a race car and can be rough on the streets, where as the q50 is a much better daily driver choice or for long distance trips.

@@chefbergsfoodadventures6531 As far as luxury goes though my camaro has heated and cooled seats and led lights in the interior from the factory... those aren't even options on the infiniti. my 2018 q50 doesn't even have apple car play but my camaro does XD

The way it handles is what really stands out when you drive it. Insane for under 50k

Or you can get an Integra with a 1.5 engine 🤦

If you can see out of it. Make sure you test drive it before getting one. I rented one and hated it.

@@jpizel1070 rented what a v6? How can you hate a Camaro

@@MassiveBig the visibility is what he’s talking about

Yea, but its still unhinged fun to race a gold dipped Nissan vs a bathtub with a V8!

Yeah, but q60 itself is overpriced no doubt. Big pass on that

Same milwaukee here

@@roboticvenom1935 you have a unwarranted hate for the q60. If you don’t like it fine but posting under every positive post regarding one makes you look weird

@@mogulme6190 nah it's just the truth. It was honestly p good when it came out mid 2010's no lie, especially the non red sport with a few mods(get same power easily).

Except for, no one is going to be racing in the snow! In fact, not many will even want to drive a truck in the snow, so take the all wheel drive to to dirt woods where it will be best served...lol 😜

Not as satisfying to listen to compared to the manual though. Probably not nearly as fun either.

It's slower then a ZF 8 speed depending on the car mate

Good and that's a good thing

That seven speed is from 2008 it's a dog. Would have had a better chance with a manual

@@taelorwatson9822 exactly.. race this Camaro vs m240i, now THAT'D be interesting.

LT1 is a fantastic vehicle. I’m very happy with mine and I’m glad you seem to be too.

Appreciate these stats. Good luck hunting down the elusive RS3.

I drive a 2019 s class and even though I drive a old man’s car at the age of 24, I think the q60 is one of the sexiest coupés around I owned the g35 and g37, and both were great cars that are fun to drive.

Well for one that's awd vs rwd from a dig, two NA vs turbo powerband

@@brandon6034 I've owned my Iridium Blue w/Monaco Red Q60 since December 2016, and even in 2022, I still get people who react to it in parking lots - "Is that a wrap?" "No, it's OEM paint!" to recently driving with the windows down and an Acura TL driver pulls up to me at a stoplight and says "That's a f**king nice car, man!" Yes, the Infiniti designers sculpted a good form when they created the Q60's body lines. :)

You definitely ended up with the better car

Sorry for your loss

@@StanMarshimportskillUSjunk shit box maro VS a piece of garbage infin lmao cringe

@@YungEagle3k Don't be. I sold it to my father in law and he's willing it back to me.

@@YungEagle3k ooof get flagged as spam 🤣🤣 Q>Camaro 🗑

You talking about the rcf? The other car turbo?

@@sircefiro He is talking about the lt1 vs his 5th gen v6 camaro.

@@dnegel9546 my reply went on the wrong comment so makes no sense lol

@@sircefiro haha i was thinking you thought he had an rcf.

Yeah they're straight outdated. Infiniti is a poor brand in 2022 no doubt.

Boi you stupid I got a q60 and she turn heads. I get alot of attention. People come up to me everyday.😂

your nuts,the chevy interior is a joke

@@Herecomesthethruth agreed. Alot of these cars need updates lol

E85 flex tune fixes JB4 Nissan irritant

E85 tune on the lt1 disagrees

@@PapiAndrey They don’t know nun about that. Always gotta mentioned what the Q needs like if LT1 don’t got some for it under their sleeve.

Lol that Infiniti is holding back a lot down pipe are there weakness they got a weak tubing that flex’s when hot there clogged up the air an tune those things can get m5 an those dodges

@@kyoakland bud there’s nothing you can teach me that I don’t already know about these cars. I know the vr30 has headroom left, but you must not know anything about the lt1 motor. They can pick up serious power for an NA motor. The coyote is another NA motor that can pick up 100whp without boost and without heads or cams.

The Q60 shown is $23k more than the camaro if you compare base price

I drove my LT1 all winter long. It’s on skinny all seasons so it’s not as bad as you would think.

Acually, all that camaro needed was a better drive. A car only handles as well as the driver. If you're too afraid to open up that 455 HP V8 than the car doesn't stand a chance of showing it's true potential.

On god and it’s all smoke from there I didn’t know those things were so quick

What if you were to tune both this is irrelevant

@@betochipistube6543 LT1 getting gapped. Sorry to break it to you

@@Zuyla says no one

Yeah and compare the features and luxury vs the Camaro, it's not close so it makes sense there's a price gap

"Over $10K" is being a bit modest. More like it saves over $15K, it's right around $20K to be exact, if we're talking about a 2023 LT1 with the only option being the 10 Speed Auto ($38,590).

I legit told everyone I know this is the way to go. ZL1 is amazing. But you can use the LT1 or SS like fresh pizza dough and add your own topping saving thousands and make it more powerful

I have 2016 SS with pro charger and blew the engine

@@niekodante6966 your tuner must have sucked. I have had my Camaro SS with a procharger for 5 years and no issue. AFR are perfect and have a wideband telling me all is good at WOT. Your AFR must have been stupid lean for you to blow an engine..or your pushing to much boost. I'm only pushing 7PSI. Making 620whp.

Awd only helps off the line and those figures aren’t that accurate. The Infiniti makes more than 400hp

No heat exchanger, Q's are useless after a pull or two without one. Lol hell spirited driving in the summer time it struggles.

Weight doesn't make much of a difference its all about HP

@@davidwade7681 blasphemy

@@AddictusSaevire and he did two pulls, both were ass before overheating, either way q60 in 2022 is a poor buy

He used the factory launch control.

And its the auto so that makes it easier too. Its fast as hell

@@GoDsSoN770 damn in that case it would have been ugly with a good launch.

@@S8ER Yea, from what I've seen, it works decently, but the guys that run the fastest times with these cars make no use of the LC. I own a manual LT1, and yea, the autos are much much easier to get good launches with. Manual is way more fun and sounds better at gear shift though. Some claim the manuals are quicker on rolls with a decent driver though. Wish I could find a local stock LT1 to run and put it to the test.

@@GoDsSoN770 I have minimal experience with 6th gens but I still hang on the forums (I just don’t tell anyone I’m a 4th gen owner and they let me stay 😂). 🍻

Get pirellis

Nitto drag radials

Awd>rwd from a dig always

Hey hey Dan, come on mate! The poor Infiniti is already disadvantaged here... :D

2500 RPM brake boost, which, factually doesn't build boost at all, only engine torque. Tune apparently can address that.

That's how I feel about my '20 SS. Best car by far and I've owned everything from sports cars to trucks, to sedans, and nothing beats it. I love it.

Why did u get rid of it?

@@blackice7408 was buying a house. Needed a cheap car payment so everything would go smoothly.

Nah I like the analog look. Will look better when its 20 years old too.

@@Ishliss2012 like I said it doesn't have be digital either

The LT1 is meant to be the most barebones package. The SS comes with a more updated dashboard

@@android175 not the Chevy, that's expected. The Infiniti, the self proclaimed luxuary brand, needs an upgrade. It's literally the same plastic filled dashboard from 2008!

@@GodKing804 Oh ya def agreed. Looks pretty much like the nissans.

Looks like Bobby's dad works the service department at a GM dealer. Were you wearing GM pajamas when you typed that??

Looks like Bobby is just simply more ( experienced) then you when it comes to understanding logic about obvious reality when all the evidence is right in front of your eyes, and yet you still can't see it, or (you don't) want to see it...hahaha.. Besides that, I've owned German expensive crap, that cost a fortune when they break! And I've had far better lasting quality in my American General Motors vehicle! Maybe you need to go work for GM and learn something for a change! And get your head out of those overpriced foreign copycats pants, since they took yours to the cleaners when they ripped you off! Hahaha...lol 😜

Imports> 🗑 domestics

He used Launch Control on the digs. The rolls is where he could have done better, using the paddles to get to the optimal rpm.

It's all yap until you get out and actually do it. However the yapping probably has something to do with stoplight to stoplight street racing. 1/4 mile airstrip under equal conditions it's obvious the lighter faster more powerful car was going to win.

seen these Qs on the streets smoke all sorts of v8s , they are fast indeed

I flex on the SS in my lexus. That LT1 is a torque monster tho!!

@@senseimasters Yeah yall send all of us back to the drawing boards its gonna be interesting to see what Ford, chevy and dodge can do to get yall back. Lexus came up and took the W for sure.

@@J_GoldieLoc When I found my Lexus I was actually looking for a Mustang. I'm a ford man too!

@@senseimasters You got luxury and fast at the same time!

Get an LT1! I beat an SS by 1 car.

Yes

Q60, by the hair on its chinny chin chin. Staz was pulling hard at that point.

Yeah. The fifth gens weigh about 3,8xx hundred pounds due to the frame using mostly steel. These sixth gens use more aluminum and if I remember correctly they're -200 over the fifth gen. The Sixth gen ZL1 is a sub 4,000 pound car too

My son weighed his 2022 LT1 with the 10sp and no sunroof and it came in @ 3619lbs.

That and they are RWD so the grip off the line isn't as good as an AWD.

Not really about the engine, just RWD vs AWD. If the Infinity didn't have AWD it would have gotten smoked off the line as well.

It's a combination of the engine and a very good AWD system. The VR30 is more responsive and has power further down than the LT1. Once the Camaro gets into its ideal rev range then it can leverage its superior power, particularly with its more advanced transmission. You can see the Q jump ahead a few feet against the Camaro from a roll because of this, despite less peak horsepower, more weight, and an AWD system that isn't helping it in that particular situation. Of course, AWD is a big advantage on street tires with these horsepower levels as well, but that only tells part of the story. After 30 (for these cars), there's not much use for the AWD system and now it's just dead weight (the system in the Q will actually disengage the front wheels to reduce drag if it's not needed after a certain speed) and the Camaro actually starts to get an advantage of being RWD. Granted, that's just in drag racing, you can get advantages from AWD coming out of any hard turn on a road course.

Forced induction will always make more power down low. Doesnt really have to do with the awd or rwd.

Agreed. I guess its to make it feel more dramatic, but to me it was super annoying. Just let us watch things unfold in a single shot...

Yes, needs to be done. I know Sam is working on it!

So far it hasnt done great in testing since it still comes with a shitty differential and traction control. Im sure with a few mods it can do well but off the lot, its eh

@@shad3128 I know. It's a huge downgrade from the premium Z which seems like the only trim level people want to test. I've seen very few test with the Base. It'd be nice to see it exposed more against cars people might cross shop.

It’s is it need the new 9 speed

A Camaro can more than hang with a q60 in the handling department.

They are horribly made garbage

@@GC-nd1lp bro literally just said most cars and the next thing you say is a Camaro. Most cars on the road aren’t Camaros💆‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Stupid people are arising

@@yuhmuther who said Camaro? Dude who replied below me , certainly not me. Plus u are correct most cars are not camaros. My father has a ZL1 and had an SS up until a year ago...... Great cars but where I live they are Useless 6 months out of the year and even suck when it rains in summer let alone winter precipitation! .....Freaking thing is in the garage most of the time and had to get a second vehicle..... Infinity is waaay more practical and yes will smoke or at the very least hang with most cars out there in ANY weather u throw at it. Had 8 Camaros in the family for 30 years since I was 10 yrs old.... Including the ZL1 which is the fastest one they roll out on assembly.... I assure u I recognize the difference 😆

Once modding takes place the arguement because about who has more money. Also having to modify a 60k car to beat a stock 40k car is kinda bad. Think the fastest bolt on camaro is in the 9s. Here on youtube.

@@dnegel9546 your right it’s all about who has the most money. I mean someone can mod a geo metro to run 9 seconds and it’s also on KZfaq lol

Q is just the better car regardless

@@StanMarshimportskillUSjunk how's that exactly??It cost more And slower. How's that exactly better?

@@StanMarshimportskillUSjunk Better for who? How do you know what people want in their car? I take my car to Sonoma raceway atleast once a month. I have an '20 LT1 as well. Why would I get rhe q60 when I can get a camaro for cheaper and it's a more capable track car

😂😂

True

And it still got shat on, q60/50's are a joke

Yeah manual first goes to like 60 the auto definitely has shorter gears tho

Try a tuned LT1

Try a tuned LT1

Could be a fun race to see regardless of outcome!

Are you dumb ? That q60 has 400hp w 355 pft. Let that q50 wakes up w simple tune that Camaro will be dusted lmao. Let it run at the same 455hp I don’t think that Camaro will see the q60’s tails lights lol. Also the Camaro has the worst rear view visibility or just the whole car view inside.

It's quicker Against the old 8 speed chevy compared to the new 10 speed

Never had a chance? I think Sam won the first race ya? But sure, no chance.

@@kyoakland ok and you can tune the camaro too

Agreed, but overpriced and outdated.

Stock LT1 camaros have notoriously bad tires. 245 in the front AND rear. It gets zero grip.

They have raced them stock for stock The Camaro put 2 cars on the new z. And it was a 1LE package SS which is slower then then the llighter LT1 in this video.

@stanmarsh. My mans lost an argument and deleted all his comments. Lol

@@StanMarshimportskillUSjunk im talking about the other dumb camero fanboy. You've been totally correct and right!

@@StanMarshimportskillUSjunk show that to our camero fan boy and he will shut up quick hehehe

@@cookiecrazy33 oh gotcha!

Never was

Dont stop there, that crayon red interior looks cheap and chintzy. For a premium brand, I'd expect a deeper more meaningful color selection. Sad

The trans is the biggest let down its the only thing holding back the q50-q60

@@SuperSmoovy don't talk about the infiniti interior while the camaro has garbage interior

The pain hurts I know but you'll get over it

@@lyndoncobb7077 "...the only thing..."?? it's a 4000 lbs 2 door car. It's too heavy.